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SGN My notes on design&funtionality

Was not a hard decision of buying, whereas I was in search of a 7"tablet replacement with easier calls. But as just after its release I read many disappointing messages here in XDA, I decided to write my first impressions (3 days usage). Most are the answers to the previous user issues, which were also my drawbacks.
1. Call quality: I hear perfect, ppl hear perfect. The biggest fear of an uncomfortable call is indiscreet.
2. Display: More than perfect. Very bright, so that I have to limit by a 30%. Everything is crystal clear, seems no color interferences, crisp fonts. Just as the most users mentioned, the same. I feel lucky to not have that pinky shades, grayish or blurry regions, dead pixels. pentile or rgb? a big nonsense.
3. Connectivity: Wireless has no problem. At least inside home. Router is in one room, from both stores the transfer is as fast as it can be. 3G>no problem. BT file transfer is still not tested. Just tried the bt headset, it's still the same, still sucks. I guess nothing about SGN, I hope. Standard mini usb socket was a must, and there it is.
4. Material: Used plastic material seems classy, but not rugged. I prefer more protective, softened side and corner parts without a need for a case. The flipcover case is a good idea, replacing the tiny absurdly thin back cover, but the cover is so easily detached while using. No locking, just pull and its aparted. Its sure in a short time abrasion is possible. While opening the back it sounds like cracked. But still changable back cover is a well thought idea. Device is really so lightweight thus I am looking for cases to make it heavier Being weightless its quality feel decreases a bit.
5. Buttons: I agree the volume rocker is placed to the wrong side, accidentally pressed many times. Upper side is better I guess. (but who cares, its too late, please next time ask us samsung). The capacitive buttons are also not wanted. You have to be careful all the time not to press. Is it so hard to function the power button as a shutter while camera is active?
6. User interface: This is the site for all modifying the interface functions, so only a few to add; the 5 main shortcuts should be arranged by personal needs. (or there is a way already?) Also the menus should be viewed in landscape position as in galaxy 7" tablet. If its said to be a tablet. Its annoying to turn it every time while using landscape. BTW why everyone is obsessed about sliding? Saw some movies guys saying hmmm its sliding really fluent. Everyone tries to test how it slides, all comparisons made on this. Whats the point?
7. Audio: Loudness is enough. But more is always appreciated. Especially for a deaf as me. But anyway sound in terms of loudness, and clarity is better than I expected. In fact its not enough to tell but I found its quality very very well. People here discussing the sound issue should have devices manufacturing faults, or are really obsessive audiophiles (I thought myself to be one, actually I prefer to pay thousands to a car audio system) So nothing lacks about hearing. But its a fact, to get best results in low and high freqs one should prefer lossless audio.
8. Video: BRRip movie of 9000kbps-1080p plays smooth. No gaming experience and will have no.
9. E-book: Bigger display is better, so not good as my 7". But the best option as a handy set.
10. Size: I feel its my ideal phone size with my monstrous hands. One handed usage is easy for me. (used 7" easily, thats not a challenge now)
Again I think the ppl who mentioned "SGN is embarrassing to make phone calls" are exaggerating. ( I have a standard 1/8 proportion head size). (ok I will not lie; a lilbit tall maybe)
11. S-Pen: Great toy. Works with a delay (in msecs.) but still usable. Great for daily sketches. (Not for taking notes, I completely forgot handwriting)
12. Battery: 1 day with nearly full usage.
13. Kies: Sux. Go change the name first please.
14. Accessories: Anyway people will drop it more than the previous little sized phones. So a more ergonomical handy case is needed, maybe with finger holders/stickers/ on it. Flip covers are a must but not user friendly. Otterbox>a must. I guess in a short time the acc. producers will wake up and make more options, I am sure this phone will have more sales than everyone expects.
15. Pocketability: Of course.
Conclusion: This phone is great in all aspects. People are sharing the problems they face, but it is normal every product to have production related errors, with acceptable ratios. I am lucky about the manufacturing, hope also lucky in using it without dropping, stolen etc.
ps.My previous phone was an iphone4, now my sis uses it, I really cant txt anything without false. Later I fully replaced it with galaxy7" due to my need for a bigger display.
ps2.(and just before SGN for 2 months I used an old nokia 3110, great phone with 6 days battery on excessive usage. Except the last 14 titles everything is same compared to SGN))

Good to hear that . .

Good to hear everything is working great on your end.

Hope I do not ignore some issues. I again try to find something to annoy me, especially the display faults. . But nothing. Somethings wrong here. Nothing in my life goes that well. Tomorrow will go n buy an insurance package including loss to robbery. Technology never catches my losing speed.

Unless your being sarcastic shouldnt you be happy that you cant find any faults on the unit that you got?

I meant no sarcasm; Before buying I almost accepted the display problems you mentioned b4, bad audio is ok also. But the bad call quality was not acceptable. Anyway, just 1or2 of those issues should be acceptable. But together 3 or more problems, the device loses its charm. I was sure to face those issues, so although I found really cheaper smuggle SGNs, without hesitation bought from official store nearly twice the price with 2 years warranty.
if now there is no problem that means will be bigger ones. Like losing it. Karma! Also Im sure day by day as getting used to it, I'll find many missing-malfunctioned things to ask here.

i'm going to have to disagree with you on the buttons since this is how all samsung smartphones are arranged. It wouldn't make sense to change that now

Yea I know that from 7"tablet, but also I many times pressed its 4capacitive buttons by mistake. However note is a phone (I decided lastly, its a phone) and 1 handed usage is necessary many times. The back >lower right button is pressed unintentedly with inner palm, oppositely if you intend it's hard to reach and press this time. 2 hands, no problem. I wonder if developers can make customizable buttons. (ICS will make this as i understand?)

S6 Edge, problems & issues List

Personally I'm on my 7th device and finally have one that I'm accepting. The local ATT warranty store manager himself went through 5 phones before he found one he kept. The phone itself is great on paper and performance is top notch. I just wish Samsung paid a little more attention to QA standards and tested the phone more thoroughly before releasing it. At this point if you have a phone that is hardware defect free, one can only hope software issues will be resolved in future OTA's. I have contacted my carrier and Samsung and they are now aware of the issues. However I urge you all to call and let your carrier know of any problems b/c the only way Samsung will resolve these is if the carriers get enough feedback to contact Samsung direct.
This is the list I have experienced and some I'm aware off. Feel free to add to the list.
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Screen- bubble under lens
- dimples and ripples under lens
- scratches on lens surface
- scratch under lens
- hue tone near bottom is more pink
Home Button- recessed on one side (2 of them were almost flat on right side and raised on left)
Back button - stops working
Heat - I would not consider this a problem, I only charge at 1/2xC or less, in my experience heat is perfectly normal on Li batteries during discharge and charge.
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Email Notification - Audible push email notifications don't come through after phone has been unused for 10 mins or longer on mobile network (lots of threads created on this)
Exchange emails - EAS emails get deleted as soon as it shows up in the client
OTA Update - Phone would not OTA update OE2 - soft, hard resets, clear cache made no difference
Memory management issues - Tmobile/Sprint phones
Screen rotation - out the box screen rotation did not work, *#0*# gyro test indicates fault
Reboot Cycle - out the box phone would just continuously to reboot
Carrier Options - Some carriers like ATT have removed some basic options and features other carriers allow: Calendar option to lock screen with power button on att phones is inclusive with immediate lock. Smart Manager, Download booster.

i feell bad for you
mine is fine .. at least for me.

auto brightness issue..

Krestic said:
auto brightness issue..
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Thanks i forgot to add that, very odd how some of these phones have issues and some don't, I can understand HW QA issues but software when they all get the same FW is byond me

On a G925I device running firmware AOD3, I experienced a much worse issue with brightness whereby when auto-brightness is off, the screen wouldn't dim before timing out (actually it would dim, but maybe only like 1%). Very annoying when you're reading some text and the screen just turns off without warning! I've upgraded to AOE3, and now I only have the auto-brightness issue mentioned above.

My first Edge functioned flawlessly, but had a spec of dust under the screen. No other problems whatsoever. My second Edge seems to be great so far.

Synyster06Gates said:
My first Edge functioned flawlessly, but had a spec of dust under the screen. No other problems whatsoever. My second Edge seems to be great so far.
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It is a hit or miss, that is bad QA and Samsung needs to tighten up their standards if they want to keep up with the big boys.

arf8 said:
It is a hit or miss, that is bad QA and Samsung needs to tighten up their standards if they want to keep up with the big boys.
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Sad thing is... they ARE the big boys. I had two OnePlus Ones that were fantastic out of the box. My first S6 (regular) had defective hardware/software that I couldn't fix, second S6 (edge) had dust under the screen. On my third device I think I've finally got a good one. If a small company like OnePlus can get a phone with amazing specs (at its time) for under half the cost of Samsung AND still have decent QC, Samsung can too. They just aren't doing their job.

I agree their quality control is horribly lacking with the S6. This is my first android phone, I'm a long time blackberry user, never been a fan of apple for various reasons i won't get into but everyone is going to compare their quality to iOverpaid phones which sadly is a benchmark in the industry these days. The lack of QC/QA is pathetic at best. Even worse is their customer service when a member here sent in his phone for repair he got the phone back with dust under the screen. I realize mfg of this phone is very difficult and it is probably easier to replace than repair but there is no excuse when you pay for a flagship one that is about $1k to have these many hardware issues, software is a different story and more acceptable but hardware is inexcusable. I spent too many weeks and days of my life dealing with this issue, I was at the point on this 7th phone if it did not work I was going back to blackberry and staying forever.

3th S6 edge for me.
1st: after one hard drop, I've pretend to try returning it by pretending a problem with dead pixel... And got a fresh one
2nd: strange home button: raised on the left, bubble under the screen ( barely unnoticeable ) plus, it's no big deal, but this one was unable to reach 66k on antutu.
3nd: perfect! Easily reach 72k on antutu

you got a dead pixel after you dropped it? and the phone showed no sign of visible damage outside?
I don't run benchmarks on phones, and even the ones on PC you have to take with a grain of salt. But it is odd the performance was so far off assuming all is equal?

Some times rotation dosn't work in gallery...but i think cause is rom modded...

You can't fault the mfg for non oem ROM issues but there have been phones out the box with rotation issues for sure

Noticed this last night : light bleed at the edge when the capacitve keys are on.
I think it's a defect. Anyone else have this ?

I had that on one unit but it was very minor and again it is a mfg and quality issue.

Can i have some feedback from the S8 owners?

I'm planning to buy S8 next week, so i wanted to hear some opinions, impressions, experiences from the people who already own this phone.
I tryied the phone at the store, it looks nice, it feels nice and it works great, but i would still like to hear what it's like on the daily basis, how's the battery life, does it lag after some time....etc
And one more thing. I've noticed some red tint at the top border, was it just me, or other people noticed the same thing?
Thanks.

I would honestly describe this phone as being the closest phone to perfect that i have ever owned! The only flaw is the finger print scanner! Battery life is very good! Display is excellent, Ergonomically its probably one of the best phones on the market! Likewise the camera is great! There is nothing bad about the device! If someone was to suggest they prefer another handset over the s8 however then iam sure it would purely be personal preference as oppose to choosing it because its better then the S8! Even the software on the S8 is massively improved over previous versions!! But....... just my opinion!!

Blaalad12 said:
I would honestly describe this phone as being the closest phone to perfect that i have ever owned! The only flaw is the finger print scanner! Battery life is very good! Display is excellent, Ergonomically its probably one of the best phones on the market! Likewise the camera is great! There is nothing bad about the device! If someone was to suggest they prefer another handset over the s8 however then iam sure it would purely be personal preference as oppose to choosing it because its better then the S8! Even the software on the S8 is massively improved over previous versions!! But....... just my opinion!!
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Thank you.
As for the fingerprint reader, what exactly you don't like about it? It's location, accuracy, speed, or something else?

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Thank you.
As for the fingerprint reader, what exactly you don't like about it? It's location, accuracy, speed, or something else?
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Location mostly! Haven't even really bothered using it as a result! Tried it out initially and seemed accurate etc but the location just makes using it awkward and its just not as convenient for unlocking the device quickly as it was when we had it on the front! All samsung had to do was place it under the camera as oppose to right beside it and it would be alot better! The haptic feedback home button is pretty cool and actually kinda reminds me of using the finger print sensor on the s7 as you can essentially just press where the home button would of been and it unlocks the device! The downside being of course that anyone can do so as its not an actual security feature!!

I got my S8 approximately 3 weeks ago. I've just come from the iPhone 7 I find the S8 Amazing and it is very sleek. The software is pretty good and very customisable, the battery life is brilliant. The only problem is Samsung have this annoying thing called Bixby which is a siri want to be. It is not possible to deactivate or disable it. The only way to work around this you have to freeze it. Had some random bugs with the Bluetooth. Otherwise amazing phone.

I've had mine around 3 weeks. I have the Samsung clear case so I have no problem with the fingerprint sensor. I'll be putting a DecalGirl skin on so when I'm using the Rhino Bumper I'll still have a tactile nudge. Came from an International S6 (actually the same one you seem to have). Bit better battery life, no lag, amazing screen. I was surprised at how comfortable it is to hold and I'm happy to have an SD card again. I was hesitant to give up my S6 after it got Nougat as it was like a new phone. Can't imagine going back now.

One of the best devices this year... It's a Star on XDA!

It's an amazing phone. Best one I've ever had. I've had it since 4/18. Finger print location doesn't bother me at all. You'll love it!

Perfect. I did configured the fingerprint sensor but I dont use it much. I prefer the iris scanner, its fast. The rest you read it already. Screen, features, hardware, design, battery, you wont regret it

mildj84ns said:
I'm planning to buy S8 next week, so i wanted to hear some opinions, impressions, experiences from the people who already own this phone.
I tryied the phone at the store, it looks nice, it feels nice and it works great, but i would still like to hear what it's like on the daily basis, how's the battery life, does it lag after some time....etc
And one more thing. I've noticed some red tint at the top border, was it just me, or other people noticed the same thing?
Thanks.
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I have the international variant so experience may vary. I love it. Not the biggest fan of the fingerprint scanner position but after a couple days, it became natural. It's very smooth. Smoother than the S7 I'd have to say.
Battery life is amazing. Can easily get over a day of life, even 2 days sometimes. I haven't experienced any lag over time.
The red tint you noticed was probably burn in. That's the only problem I understand with the phone since it's an OLED display. I keep mine in immersive mode and use gestures for the navbar instead (I prefer it actually).
There was an issue with some displays at launch having a red tint which was resolved through software update.

Here my review. It has some profanity so if u don't like hearing cursing don't watch. But it's pretty popular on YouTube at 29k views

You will get used to fingerscanner location and it will not bother. Also useless bixby button can be remapped without root, so no prob here too.
Great phone!

Fps works fine and is ok to reach on my s8 but not for me on the + model.
Face recognition and iris scanner works fine.
The new Samsung Experience Ui is slick and fast.
I'm in the uk so have the exynos version.
The display just pops.
For me the dimensions of the s8 hit my sweet spot and it's really comfortable to hold.
The s8+ version for me was just too big and to me felt top heavy.
It's as slippery as any other glass form factor phone.
I'm using....
Samsung Screen Protector- the film type.
Black Dragon dbrand back skin.
RhinoShield Bumper.

Success100 said:
Here my review. It has some profanity so if u don't like hearing cursing don't watch. But it's pretty popular on YouTube at 29k views
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That's exactly what i wanted to know, a daily experience and overall impressions.
Great video man :good:

Only issue with my S8: Display light shines through right under the earpiece. Someone else noticed that?
Apart from that the phone is close to perfect for me.

Do not forget THE SCREEN SCRATCHES VERY EASY.
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I get a consistent 5 hours of screen on time every day. And as the other guy noted this screen does scratch easily. I had a buddy that scratched his pretty bad and had no idea how he did it. Haven't scratched mine yet after a couple weeks with no screen protector though. I came from a 6S+ and a note 5 before that and I'm pretty happy with this phone after flashing my unlocked Verizon version to an unbranded Canadian firmware.

uk neverlocked has problems "emergency call only"
I recommend to you that you buy the french version
http://www.expansys.fr/samsung-galaxy-s8-64gb-midnight-black-origin-eu-301130/

I had a s7 edge which is dead last week when trying to put it in water :'(. So I bought s8. So thats what I find:
1/ I really didn't like the unlock features.. the fingerprint sensor is in the back so it is just useless (ps you can save 4 fingers but I dont know how my 4 fingers can access to the fingerprint). The iris scanner cannot be used if the phone is a little bit far (in the car for exemple when you are driving I used to unlock my s7 directly with finger). To be able to unlock your s8 when its far you must use face recognition it is quick but it is useless at night because it uses camera. (Ps1: you cannot see your lockscreen before/without unlocking. Ps2: you cannot use iris and facerecognition at the same time so you must choose night compatible or far compatible).
2/ the screen ration is just so bad.. videos/apps/games are not adapted with display ratio so the phone will show two black bars at the top and at the buttom of the screen + the nav bar is, in the most cases, present in the screen and dont disappear automatically so there is no sense of "infinity screen" and I cant feel it.
3/ the battery takes more time with my s7 edge then my new s8.
So I really felt that s7 edge was better (for me) but samsung should not tell people that phones are water resistant because its not always true. (Sorry for bad english).

Waelby said:
I had a s7 edge which is dead last week when trying to put it in water :'(. So I bought s8. So thats what I find:
1/ I really didn't like the unlock features.. the fingerprint sensor is in the back so it is just useless (ps you can save 4 fingers but I dont know how my 4 fingers can access to the fingerprint). The iris scanner cannot be used if the phone is a little bit far (in the car for exemple when you are driving I used to unlock my s7 directly with finger). To be able to unlock your s8 when its far you must use face recognition it is quick but it is useless at night because it uses camera. (Ps1: you cannot see your lockscreen before/without unlocking. Ps2: you cannot use iris and facerecognition at the same time so you must choose night compatible or far compatible).
2/ the screen ration is just so bad.. videos/apps/games are not adapted with display ratio so the phone will show two black bars at the top and at the buttom of the screen + the nav bar is, in the most cases, present in the screen and dont disappear automatically so there is no sense of "infinity screen" and I cant feel it.
3/ the battery takes more time with my s7 edge then my new s8.
So I really felt that s7 edge was better (for me) but samsung should not tell people that phones are water resistant because its not always true. (Sorry for bad english).
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Great mini review
I'll keep in mind everything you said.
Thanks.
P.S.
Your English is fine.

Indisplay fingerprint reader VS. Dedicated one on the back

Do you think the new indisplay fingerprint reader will be fast as the one on the back?
I saw a hands on video of the OPPO r17 and it looked like the fingerprint reader was not very fast and also it could unlock the screen maybe 3/5 times.
Can we expect a better, newer generation in the op6t or do you think it will be the same chipset?

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Do you think the new indisplay fingerprint reader will be fast as the one on the back?
I saw a hands on video of the OPPO r17 and it looked like the fingerprint reader was not very fast and also it could unlock the screen maybe 3/5 times.
Can we expect a better, newer generation in the op6t or do you think it will be the same chipset?
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FOD will hopefully be the same as r17 but there might be an option of combining FOD with the FU along with Raise to wake and Double tap to wake like other OEM's to make it faster thus the device would scan and FP and look for the Face at the same time.
The tech is still relatively new so we can't expect the same speed as traditional FPs
We will have to wait for the official announcement and the reviews to judge the actual experience :good:

I'll take works every time over fast all day every day.

I think it's going to be ultrasonic actually.
The oppo used an optical sensor which is slower and less secure

There must be both !!
for a $1000 phone I demand to include every single feature possible !!
and half an inch thick phone is totally fine !!
and 1lb of weight is totally fine as well.

I think I'll miss the back scanner, the front one cant possibly be faster, at least not for another year or 2? we're getting like some of the first generations, if its JUST as fast, if not faster, great. but I unlock it sometimes before it even sees my face. I don't want to front scanner and wait for face even though that will be faster than just the scanner on the front...
I might even skip it and just get the 6, from my 5t red.
anyone think the same or just me? haha...

I dislike them in the back because I use a phone on the desk frequently enough it becomes an annoyance. Face ID is no help either in that situation so I've been looking forward to embedded scanners becoming a thing.

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I dislike them in the back because I use a phone on the desk frequently enough it becomes an annoyance. Face ID is no help either in that situation so I've been looking forward to embedded scanners becoming a thing.
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true, i usually have it facing the table when im out so its slightly less anti social LOL

Will be faster than contemporary optical FP readers if oneplus pays special attention to(nature of oneplus), but can no way be as fast as the traditional capacitive ones.

I am excited about this. One thing that caught my attention was the rumor of the fingerprint and time always being on, even when the phone is sleep. Has OnePlus confirmed this or is it still a rumor? Cause if it's true I feel it will be a major selling point to the phone.

I think I would prefer it like this rather than being on the back. Still using 3T and idm it on the front. Can't wait for the 6t

It's better that they are investing in this technology. Apple generally waits a couple of years before they try it. It's cost efficient to wait off, given the size of your company. If your trying to get more people interested in the phone; then you probably want to invest in this technology. Again, this is OnePlus's first time with a deal with a U.S. carrier. What selling points are going to make people buy the phone when they walk in the T-Mobile store? OnePlus still has not revealed the other ways users will be able to unlock the phone. We are still in for big surprises.

The major selling point is going to be it's a phone that largely specs the same as the usual suspects which are significantly more expensive. Going back to the embedded scanner it's the best choice once fully working simply because the phone can be unlocked while sitting at rest, you don't get that with face, iris, etc. Apple, Samsung, and everyone else will be on board as soon as they can create the user experience they want. It's the uncontested next step.
Fearless prediction... We're not too far from two factor ID for pay: fingerprint AND face. Meanwhile I'd expect the fingerprint will serve to simply unlock the phone. The smart guys seem to think this is the logical middle step because embedded cameras are still a decade out and everyone wants the screen sans notch which means a lift for the selfie cam. The lift becomes much more viable when it is only needed for selfies compared to something like the Find X where it is used for unlock. To get there in the near term you need embedded fingerprint scanners even if they weren't arguably the most viable overall option for bio-metric security.

I'd agree with Krabman. OnePlus is clearly trying to pull ahead of the race. They want their product to stay innovative. They want you to think of the OnePlus brand as a step up from your everyday Android device. Not to say that the Galaxy and Pixel aren't innovate if their own way; but OnePlus wants their own niche in the Android market. One could say; they are trying to be more like Apple. What they have to do is make sure their features and OS is unique. Eventually they should invest in some television ads. It can get expensive; but T-Mobile could always pitch in.
We're still in for a treat come time October 17th. Hopefully the phone will be available for purchase on that date and we won't have to wait a second longer. I'd really love to go out to a T-Mobile store during that week and pay for the phone.

I read at trustedreviews.com about the Huawei Mate 20 Pro that the indisplay fingerprint reader ONLY works for unlocking the phone and not for apps, that can use dedicated fingerprintreaders e.g. for banking apps etc.
If this is correct and also the same with the 6T that would be a HUGE minus for this technology!

I dunno, I think the rear scanned is better for me,,, I can pick it up with one hand and unlock it with my index finger, a front scanner will require my thumbs for this or two hands. But............. I will adapt. My 5x is long in the tooth and the Nexus atmosphere or comradery is no more, with OnePlus seemingly having it.

Yeah, sounds like you need ultrasonic for banking and we're getting optical. Phones are in kind of a weird place right now. To me it's like phones are suddenly stuck in a place where we all know embedded scanners and cameras are around the corner and it's clear now that the goal lies there. All screen, ultrasonic, embedded cameras, so on. It leaves what's out there now a little disappointing even though things are better than ever because I know that stuff is coming and I'm sure I want it.

TarkoonXDA said:
I read at trustedreviews.com about the Huawei Mate 20 Pro that the indisplay fingerprint reader ONLY works for unlocking the phone and not for apps, that can use dedicated fingerprintreaders e.g. for banking apps etc.
If this is correct and also the same with the 6T that would be a HUGE minus for this technology!
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On Vivo Nex S is working with app too as banking app etc IMO.
So it would be big negative surprised if 6T does not support.
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Yeah, sounds like you need ultrasonic for banking and we're getting optical. Phones are in kind of a weird place right now. To me it's like phones are suddenly stuck in a place where we all know embedded scanners and cameras are around the corner and it's clear now that the goal lies there. All screen, ultrasonic, embedded cameras, so on. It leaves what's out there now a little disappointing even though things are better than ever because I know that stuff is coming and I'm sure I want it.
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As for the fingerprint scanner I’m sure would be very reliable and smooth even being optical not ultasonic
Ultrasonic fingerprint will see next year with S10+.
It’s not ready for mass production.
Even the 2 little brother S10 series will use optical as ultrasonic is quite expensive.
Non to mention that Vivo is already working on 4th generation optical scanner that would be even better so it wouldn’t make surprising if 6T using that 4th generation but even not and use 3rd like Vivo Nex I’m sure would be fast and reliable.
https://www.gizmochina.com/2018/09/...t-technology-and-dsp-acceleration-technology/
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SourPower said:
I think I would prefer it like this rather than being on the back. Still using 3T and idm it on the front. Can't wait for the 6t
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I was the same but when I went from note 4 to like LG v20 or something I completely changed. you'd never wanna go back to front. the ease taking out of pocket, on table if turned upside down. if not upside down just double tap.
I'd go front again tomorrow but its slower tech than back. I don't wanna go slower and pay more for first generation. and I saw the oneplus 6 on best gear for like £382 8gb 128gb. not bad. I'd actually prob get that right now from my 5t until newer front screen scanner comes in

I think a little sphere busting is in order... I just touched the front of my phone. Twice. At no time did I think, "Ok, this is my third try at touching the front of my phone, if I don't make it this time maybe I'll have a run at the back and see if I can touch that."
More seriously: I dislike back scanners and unfortunately I've been stuck with a number of em because it's whats been out there on a lot of devices recently. Practice hasn't helped me make friends with them either, I like them less every time I own one. This because touching the front is neither easier nor harder than touching the back and you cant use a back scanner without picking up the phone when working with it on the desk. Double tap is fine but you have to go sans security to use it which isn't always viable. Face ID has the same problem, when working off the desk you have to pick up the phone to light it up. Meanwhile with the front scanner you touch it and go about your business without the extra step. Going back to normal use when not on a surface, yeah, the front is just as easy to touch as the back. To me the best feature of the 6T is the scanner being located in the objectively least compromised placement.

Thinking about buying One Plus 6T, concerned about finger print sensor

Thinking about buying a One Plus 6T. Fine with no audio jack, teardrop, and I'm concerned about the inscreen finger print sensor. Since first generation technology heard it was slow, not as reliable as rear ones.
Wondering about people's one Plus 6T experience. Has software upgrades helped? Any technique for using it?

Mine was a little wonky at first, but worked good for the most part. Now several updates down the road I have no problems at all with it except every once in awhile if out in very bright sun light. But that's few and far between.

From my experience and experiences I have read the sensor is faster than a traditional rear one. Only issues I ever have is when my fingers are wet or dirty.

Finger print sensor and face unlock works just brilliant. dont hesitate to buy

I'll be the odd man out. I hate it. Probably 4 out of 10 times I hold my finger on it and nothing. Just glows at me, rather infuriating honestly.

10 out of 8 picks up. most probably you couldn't setup properly. you must setup same finger at least twice ?then will pick up super fast

bramgoodwin said:
Thinking about buying a One Plus 6T. Fine with no audio jack, teardrop, and I'm concerned about the inscreen finger print sensor. Since first generation technology heard it was slow, not as reliable as rear ones.
Wondering about people's one Plus 6T experience. Has software upgrades helped? Any technique for using it?
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works 10 out of 10 times for me with clean fingers in any light situation. I think how much part of your finger gets registered also matters. I try to cover the whole part above the first line of the finger.

Works fast enuff not to bother u.
Never will be fast like a traditional one which works instantaneously.
How fast it is :
Imagine the time taken for a double tap on screen.
Giving allowances for differences in speed of double tap amongst us,
It will not be quicker than a double tap.
It will not be longer than a triple tap.
How often it doesn't work :
Works everytime.
Special occasions it won't work :
After a bath.
It will annoy u. Make u do twice/thrice.
It's not wet fingers. Wet fingers work as fine as dry.
May be the salt depostion form soap or the soaked effect of fingers.
Comaprision to OP7:
Slightly slower than op7.
Op6t is at the border level - anything even slightly slower than 6t will bother u. Op7 has some margins.
But op7 has no mirror black.
Soon 6T will not be available.
Buy it soon.

Kovhl said:
Works fast enuff not to bother u.
Never will be fast like a traditional one which works instantaneously.
How fast it is :
Imagine the time taken for a double tap on screen.
Giving allowances for differences in speed of double tap amongst us,
It will not be quicker than a double tap.
It will not be longer than a triple tap.
How often it doesn't work :
Works everytime.
Special occasions it won't work :
After a bath.
It will annoy u. Make u do twice/thrice.
It's not wet fingers. Wet fingers work as fine as dry.
May be the salt depostion form soap or the soaked effect of fingers.
Comaprision to OP7:
Slightly slower than op7.
Op6t is at the border level - anything even slightly slower than 6t will bother u. Op7 has some margins.
But op7 has no mirror black.
Soon 6T will not be available.
Buy it soon.
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Which rom do you use? And how did you register your fingers? (Light levels, brightness levels)

at first i had some issues with it, even after registering the same finger 3 times it didnt worked all the times and always took a while, but than i installed the mclaren edition animation and worked much better

So here's my two cents. The Finger Print Scanning is slow. I have a Nexus 6P and that's faster. But from personal observation I can say that the Fingerprint is a Hit or Miss. It depends upon a number of factors. My own case: on Stock OOS Open Beta with a FP animation mod installed (DeadlyGhost's. It's amazing. Do give it a shot. Can be found in the themes section) , I'm getting amazing speeds. I'm using a Modded version of the Ripple Animation (forgot the real name) and the color set to purple I only have to touch to unlock. This is with an Unofficial Third party case installed. While on a Custom ROM with the same setup (minus the animation) it takes a solid 2 seconds. So it depends upon your setup, I guess. Also as someone commented earlier the McLaren animation helps. If you're stock and U rooted there is a guide. Just search around XDA. If you're Rooted, try the aforementioned Animation Mod. Though it will only work on OxygenOS.

I switched from LG to this phone. I got sick of lgs late updates. I'm glad that I did. There is a lot of development here for this phone. Plus with the ROM, mods, etc this phone is the best daily driver that I have ever owned.

One trick I used was to only setup my two thumbs and one index finger.
OP6T only allows for 5 fingerprints to be setup. I use two slots for each thumb. OOS uses images to recognize your prints. By using two slots you add more images to the same finger which makes it even faster. Setting up the same finger twice can be difficult as it will take time because your print will be recognized, but this gives you the chance to capture your print at every angle possible.

Never found the sensor to be particularly slow.. it's faster than a iPhone 6s Plus.

When I bought this device I was a little worried like you, but trust me, the sensor is not a problem, is not perfect but neither horrible, it just works fine.

Mannan Qamar said:
So here's my two cents. The Finger Print Scanning is slow. I have a Nexus 6P and that's faster. But from personal observation I can say that the Fingerprint is a Hit or Miss. It depends upon a number of factors. My own case: on Stock OOS Open Beta with a FP animation mod installed (DeadlyGhost's. It's amazing. Do give it a shot. Can be found in the themes section) , I'm getting amazing speeds. I'm using a Modded version of the Ripple Animation (forgot the real name) and the color set to purple I only have to touch to unlock. This is with an Unofficial Third party case installed. While on a Custom ROM with the same setup (minus the animation) it takes a solid 2 seconds. So it depends upon your setup, I guess. Also as someone commented earlier the McLaren animation helps. If you're stock and U rooted there is a guide. Just search around XDA. If you're Rooted, try the aforementioned Animation Mod. Though it will only work on OxygenOS.
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Are u suggesting animation mods help to bring about a faster finger print ??
My take : I don't think so animation has any effect. Theoretically it does not, since animation is only outside the fingerprint area.
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Zorbeyd said:
Which rom do you use? And how did you register your fingers? (Light levels, brightness levels)
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9.0.5 ( not 9.0.15) OOS. Omega kernel.
Brightness level was average I guess. I dont think it matters since the sensor area is by default fully lit in high brightness mode and adjacent area are jet black while registering the finger print.
I tried dark room registering but in my case it didn't add any difference or I felt it was slower for one of my thumb . So I deleted it and re registered in my room with a tube light lit.
Did it two three times until the slower thumb became equal to other thumb.
I guess it was something in my thumb rather than lighting that made it slower.
One idea u can try is,
While registering wipe everytime before u place the finger ... I haven't done that. But dust on screen or print on screen guard is likely to interfer in registering.
And if still slow, no need to worry that others phone are good . Some people have good deep fingerprints.

I've never had an issue with mine. I did the trick (found on xda) to install the McClaren background and it to me appears to be faster than the stock background.
Another thing I've seen is if you wake up your phone and are looking at it, while pressing the fingerprint sensor area, it may appear to stutter when unlocking if you have face detection enabled also. I've tried it several times with a piece of post it note over the camera to verify that to me, appeared to be what was causing it to "stutter". If I am looking at the phone, I don't go near the fingerprint sensor. If I'm not looking at the phone, then the fingerprint sensor works lightning fast.

bladestonez said:
From my experience and experiences I have read the sensor is faster than a traditional rear one. Only issues I ever have is when my fingers are wet or dirty.
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I concur. Sensor seems to work very well and very quickly as long as my thumb is clean and dry. If it isn't...I guess that is what the PIN is for.

No way a UD sensor beats or even comes close to a tradiotnal one for now. Traditional back fingerprint sensor in oppo f5 youth I have tested, in my frnds phone.
It instantaneous.

At first it sucked but improved over time.
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