I saw a review on YouTube in which the reviewer mentions that OP5 has some kind of jitter when scrolling compared to the other Snapdragon 835 powered phone, in this case, the HTC U11. I searched the OP3/3T forums and saw that it is an old problem.
Do you happen to notice something familiar on your OP5 when scrolling thru different apps?
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Yes it does and to be honest it's annoying, sometimes it's like a shaking jello effect when scrolling and sometimes there's awful jerkiness and stuttering when scrolling through certain web pages in chrome, have to say this should not happen out the box, i hope the scrolling issue gets resolved or I'm sending mine back.
Got the same, sadly. Hope something can be done about it. The hardware is awesome, but the stuttering is very annoying. I'd expect the experience to be smoother... :-\
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Try to go to developer options and enable force GPU rendering... Seems it helped a bit...
In wich part you have these stutters ...?
I have an OP3T and I don't face any kind of lags.....
Very strange ....OP5 with SD 835 should flying....
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Got the same, sadly. Hope something can be done about it. The hardware is awesome, but the stuttering is very annoying. I'd expect the experience to be smoother... :-\
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I'll try that thanks.
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caki25 said:
Got the same, sadly. Hope something can be done about it. The hardware is awesome, but the stuttering is very annoying. I'd expect the experience to be smoother... :-\
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In wich part you have these stutters ...?
I have an OP3T and I don't face any kind of lags.....
Very strange ....OP5 with SD 835 should flying....
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It's like the refresh rate is set at 45fps for eg instead of 60fps like a flagship should be, there's a jelly shaking effect everywhere you scroll but some apps chrome for eg sometimes hitches and stutters, not acceptable for this kind of hardware tbh.
I've not had an android phone that hasn't stuttered to some extent in Chrome.
I can say though that mine has improved over the day or so since I've had the phone and currently is very smooth.
Does anyone have an example of a website that is more prone to lag? I'll try it out.
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I've not had an android phone that hasn't stuttered to some extent in Chrome.
I can say though that mine has improved over the day or so since I've had the phone and currently is very smooth.
Does anyone have an example of a website that is more prone to lag? I'll try it out.
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Forcing gpu rendering didn't work for me still the same, open the app drawer and scroll up and down fairly fast you'll see a shimmering effect, also even scrolling up and down in these forums sometimes when the square adverts pop it's stutters like ****, it reminds me of having vsync disabled on my pc that kind off effect, it's like OP have disabled vsync because with it enabled it stuttering even worse like it can't keep up to 60fps, which i find really strange with this kind of hardware, it needs to get sorted fairly quickly, it doesn't do this on my huawei mate 9 or my Nexus 6p, also there's touch latency issues, remember hearing carl pei going on about it in the launch on tuesday, saying they've improved latency when in fact they haven't, if you scroll up and down fast sometimes it's not picking up your touches and skips and just scrolls the last way it detected, I'm very suspicious they new about this problem when they were on about touch latency in the launch.
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Forcing gpu rendering didn't work for me still the same, open the app drawer and scroll up and down fairly fast you'll see a shimmering effect, also even scrolling up and down in these forums sometimes when the square adverts pop it's stutters like ****, it reminds me of having vsync disabled on my pc that kind off effect, it's like OP have disabled vsync because with it enabled it stuttering even worse like it can't keep up to 60fps, which i find really strange with this kind of hardware, it needs to get sorted fairly quickly, it doesn't do this on my huawei mate 9 or my Nexus 6p, also there's touch latency issues, remember hearing carl pei going on about it in the launch on tuesday, saying they've improved latency when in fact they haven't, if you scroll up and down fast sometimes it's not picking up your touches and skips and just scrolls the last way it detected, I'm very suspicious they new about this problem when they were on about touch latency in the launch.
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I have no scroll latency or lag on my phone. Everything is buttery smooth. I didn't change any settings.
I used the oneplus 3t for a while and initially I thought the phone was fast and lag free. However I always used to have a strange feeling that all wasn't as great as it seemed. I use talon for twitter a lot and with the oneplus 3t it was hit and miss at times it would be smooth when scrawling and other times it would lag and stutter. I kinda blamed the app and even sent a few messages to the developer of the app (he never replied lol). I decided to move back to my note 7 (yes it's a fire hog but I love it lol),and well well it was way smother and lag free than the 3t. Am sure you can eventually tweak the oneplus do to what you want and improve lags etc but I just never had the time. Saying that I will keep an eye on this thread as I intend to buy it.
Cant say much about the lag since I havent got my phone yet, but could somebody give an idea of me a try? If I remember correctly, there used to be some accessability settings in Android, some installed Apps where enabled there by default and caused jitter/lag for me, back on my Nexus 5. Can someone test if this could be the cause? (if this setting still exists, no Idea on what Android version this happened to me) - Either way, im scared now that I wont be to happy with the device, lets hope there will be a fix soon.
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Yes it does and to be honest it's annoying, sometimes it's like a shaking jello effect when scrolling and sometimes there's awful jerkiness and stuttering when scrolling through certain web pages in chrome, have to say this should not happen out the box, i hope the scrolling issue gets resolved or I'm sending mine back.
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Yes!!! You see it to. I posted this on Reddit. Everyone check this bull**** out:
Noticed this as soon as I setup the phone. I don't think I've ever seen an AMOLED panel do this. It's almost like it's refreshing each line of pixels too slowly/unevenly during a single frame?
Here's an album of images and video captured from 240 FPS video. View them one after another. The screen refreshes by starting in the bottom left corner and finishes the frame in the top right corner... the icons and text on each line of apps goes out of alignment as I scroll.
Text and elements on the screen stretches out when scrolling down, and smushes together when scrolling up. Straight lines look wavy when scrolling left or right as well!
https://goo.gl/photos/Rx8nZCnzj8jSWXGJ7
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Cant say much about the lag since I havent got my phone yet, but could somebody give an idea of me a try? If I remember correctly, there used to be some accessability settings in Android, some installed Apps where enabled there by default and caused jitter/lag for me, back on my Nexus 5. Can someone test if this could be the cause? (if this setting still exists, no Idea on what Android version this happened to me) - Either way, im scared now that I wont be to happy with the device, lets hope there will be a fix soon.
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So you won`t be happy with your phone because someone else seems to have a problem with his/hers?
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So you won`t be happy with your phone because someone else seems to have a problem with his/hers?
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Thats not what I said?
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I said, that Im scared of (might) not beeing happy with it(, if some kind of annoying lag or stutter appears)
stebsgb1 said:
I've not had an android phone that hasn't stuttered to some extent in Chrome.
I can say though that mine has improved over the day or so since I've had the phone and currently is very smooth.
Does anyone have an example of a website that is more prone to lag? I'll try it out.
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Yes!!! You see it to. I posted this on Reddit. Everyone check this bull**** out:
Noticed this as soon as I setup the phone. I don't think I've ever seen an AMOLED panel do this. It's almost like it's refreshing each line of pixels too slowly/unevenly during a single frame?
Here's an album of images and video captured from 240 FPS video. View them one after another. The screen refreshes by starting in the bottom left corner and finishes the frame in the top right corner... the icons and text on each line of apps goes out of alignment as I scroll.
Text and elements on the screen stretches out when scrolling down, and smushes together when scrolling up. Straight lines look wavy when scrolling left or right as well!
https://goo.gl/photos/Rx8nZCnzj8jSWXGJ7
https://goo.gl/photos/iwi5JdruMAveRkFN8
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/sets/72157682480018604
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Yes i see it, it's not just me, it's like a it's scrolling under water! The people that can't see it are stubborn to it or don't have the eyesight, it's awful, never seen this problem on any screen in the last 4 years or so, as much as i love the phone i can't put up with one of the main features which you need to navigate your phone, it's shimmering like burning sausage, imo crap.
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I have no scroll latency or lag on my phone. Everything is buttery smooth. I didn't change any settings.
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You must have a golden sample then, one thing is for sure it is NOT buttery smooth, the only place this phone is smooth to my eyes is when side scrolling left and right, the rest is a mess to blunt, there's a guy who did a YouTube vid showing the problem...
Here's another quote from someone in the one plus forums with the same issue.
"Some outlets have reported on a "jello effect" on the OnePlus 5 when scrolling through apps, and I have noticed this myself as well. Right now I just noticed that in horizontally scrolling apps (Snapchat in my case) I get a rolling shutter effect, where the bottom of the screen updates the image faster than the top, amplifying this jello effect. V-Sync of course makes display response time slower, but also ensures that the image never gets cut In half. Can anyone else comment on this? I will try to get it on video whenever I'm home from Copenhagen. It can be quite noticable when you know it and think about it" if vsync has been disabled because they have installed a slow touch response screen or something mines going back.
Ok, I see it too. It's very subtle but there is a stretching compression going on when stopping scrolling.
Doesn't bother me in the slightest but here it is in slow-mo. Most obvious on the final scroll-down at the end of the video.
https://goo.gl/photos/mgD8zT3TAYBxmy3Q6
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Mine is too. In fact if I showed you it in person, I don't think you'd see it. It's that subtle and I think you really have to look for it.
Can you see it in the video? It's not the jitter as that is just the result of slowing a video down from 240fps. It's a slight wave as it stops.
If anyone is reading these threads and thinks there's a problem with the OP5 - there's not. We all have the same phones here and some people can't even see the effect that is being described.
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Mine is too. In fact if I showed you it in person, I don't think you'd see it. It's that subtle and I think you really have to look for it.
Can you see it in the video? It's not the jitter as that is just the result of slowing a video down from 240fps. It's a slight wave as it stops.
If anyone is reading these threads and thinks there's a problem with the OP5 - there's not. We all have the same phones here and some people can't even see the effect that is being described.
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I did notice it right away. But I was in an impression that it's an animation. Various ROMs lets you set your render animation. Isnt this just it?
We were saying that too here but it's also present on Chrome.
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We were saying that too here but it's also present on Chrome.
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I tried multiple apps included and I couldn't duplicate that scroll lag. I saw the video and mine definitely doesn't do that.
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Has anyone noticed this? Wherever there's something to scroll, web pages, menus etc., the motion is sort of stuttering as long as you keep your finger on the screen. When you release your finger and "throw" the page, it goes smooth. This makes me think that it's not a graphic performance issue, but it's more like if the resolution of the capacitive touch screen was lower than the actual display. I hope I'm wrong and it's software related...
Software related, doesn't always do this.
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On second thought I am not sure, sometimes it does this really badly and other times it is completely smooth. If we didn't have full resolution touch you would notice it on a multi touch test app.
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I think I have found the cause.
Cpu scaling!
Lock setcpu to 1 ghz and it is much smoother.
What is happening is the cpu speed keeps throttling and jumping back to full speed causing problems
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Actually...still unsure...ideas anyone?
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"Problems" with CPU speed jumping up and down? Those are not problems but a design decision (jury is still out on whether the implementation is done right) to save energy.
Of course you can crank everything up to the max and never put peripherals or the CPU to sleep, but please don't start complaining when your battery runs flat before the day is done.
They set the ramp down cpu speed timer far too short. This can be modded in a kernel anyway.
Using a multi touch test we have at minimum 600x300 touch resolution, way more then enough to have lag free scrolling.
There's an acer android phone out with only about 32x 24 touch resolution. They manage
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I don't think it's related. I'm experiencing this even with the cpu locked in performance mode. On the other hand, using a multitouch test app, I was able to move a pointer pixel by pixel at what seemed to be the screen's full resolution, so touch res is not the cause.
It's quite annoying cause even if you want to launch a fast scroll of, say, your contact list, you get that initial ugly small stutter... when browsing the internet this ruins the experience even more, since you are likely to keep your fingertip on the screen more.
Dunno about you guys but uninstalling Gesture Search by Google fixed it for me.
Never had that on my phone...
Bump... am I the only one bothered by this?
Am I?...
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Am I?...
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Could be, I had a HTC HD2 and it suffered from that problem alot. numerous videos have been posted on youtube because of it as well.
One possible way of minimizing the problem is to electrically discharge your screen, by putting an electric conductor, such as metal on it to remove and negative/postive ions still hanging around. Read that up somewhere and it somewhat helped my HD2.
Personally i have only experienced once on my Sgs and have not been able to replicate it since.
If you have big fingers that could also be a problem as the touch sensor can't decide on where to locate your finger...
Thank you for your answer! The electrical conductor you mentioned should go somewhere to discharge though... I can't walk around with a ground wire hanging from my phone all the time Plus, I really believe it's software. I know it always goes there but... iPhones have similar technology but they always scroll smooth. maybe it's interpolation we're missing here.
Btw I have particularly small hands!
Discharging it only has to be done only when the problem seems to be worsening. just try not to place your entire thumb on it but rather use the tips of yours fingers, that way it doesnt jerk.
I have to say this problem is pretty consistent, hence not worsening (or improving) whatsoever in any circumstances. It's just not fluid, ah my Touch HD used to be, but that was because of poor GPU (driver); we know that can't possibly be the case here, and as a matter of fact, regardless of load, stuff in the background etc, it's there all the time.
But as soon as you release the fingertip, the "inertial" part of the scrolling just goes as smooth as possible.
So I'd dismiss the electrostatic explanation, it seems like it was a non-interpolated low touch resolution... except that it's not...
Hi Folks, I have noticed the same problem running eclair 2.1 with Ryan's one click lag fix applied (the lag fix did speed it up quite a bit too!). It seems to do it after coming out of 'sleep' mode i.e when I wake it up from blank 'screen saver'. After a few scrolls or taps it starts to smoothen out a bit, but still not as I would like it to be.... Just my observations and sorry I can't offer up any Solutions... Any word if 2.2 update will make things better? Also, does anyone know when the update will hit Australia?
Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.
xan said:
Welcome to android world, iphone users.
The world where not everything is super-smooth.
Actually it might be related to smoothing of touch input. Btw my scrolling is quite ok, but I come from Sybian world, world of lag.
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'smoothing of touch input'? could you please expand on this?
BTW - I Never owned an iFone, and don't really go for it's comunistic ways... (although some people take comfort in it! )
Hm, touchscreen sends raw data to driver (noisy, with peaks) to driver. Driver cleans and interprets them.. (unless its done in TS firmware)
I think that more cleaning and smoothing at this stage would result in smother scrolling, but not-so-precise tracking (when drawing, etc).
I'm just speculating here, because I have no real knowledge about this.
OK... Although it seems like there is a delay in reloading to short term memory when coming out of hibernation? Would this sound like a place to start looking? if so, anyone have any ideas on how to manipulate this function?
Hello guys,
I thought I'd start a new thread on this lag issue because I'd like people to try all the apps I tried and to post their results like this:
1/ App Drawer slow move - Same / Better / Worse
2/ Facebook feed - Same / Better / Worse
etc etc...
The YouTube video is HERE
A downloadable version (smoother than YouTube) is HERE
I'd be very interested to hear what you find. Also state whether you have Snapdragon or Exynos and which build..
Let the games begin!
Mark.
Is it jerking or buffering from a slow internet connection? I don't notice that much jerking on my Note 4 (Exynos), but I'm interested in seeing what other people say.
I have the Exynos and yes if I try to scroll really slowly it doesnt immediately respond but when would you ever want to scroll that slowly and to be fair it is a like a millisecond of lag, geez to me this device is a huge improvement on UI lag than any previous Samsung device I have owned. Just my opinion but it seems like nit picking at a non issue really, but of course thats your opinion.
homer285 said:
I have the Exynos and yes if I try to scroll really slowly it doesnt immediately respond but when would you ever want to scroll that slowly and to be fair it is a like a millisecond of lag, geez to me this device is a huge improvement on UI lag than any previous Samsung device I have owned. Just my opinion but it seems like nit picking at a non issue really, but of course thats your opinion.
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are you ok with the terrible jerky lag on facebook google+ pulse hangouts etc...??
I have a 73mb download on my phone, so no, the speed of the internet has zero to do with this.
Come on, how about more thorough testing guys, dont just defend your phone, it is a great phone, but I want to see some real testing!
Mark
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are you ok with the terrible jerky lag on facebook google+ pulse hangouts etc...??
I have a 73mb download on my phone, so no, the speed of the internet has zero to do with this.
Come on, how about more thorough testing guys, dont just defend your phone, it is a great phone, but I want to see some real testing!
Mark
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I'll be honest, I've just tried the same tests on the same apps (no Facebook, but the Pages app), and I'm not seeing the same lag. If there is any, it's a very minor stutter maybe once, that I'd attribute to buffering.
Are you on power Save or anything else that could be slowing the device down?
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EP2008 said:
I'll be honest, I've just tried the same tests on the same apps (no Facebook, but the Pages app), and I'm not seeing the same lag. If there is any, it's a very minor stutter maybe once, that I'd attribute to buffering.
Are you on power Save or anything else that could be slowing the device down?
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Nope, I have not tweaked anything on the phone, my Antutu scores are fine... and with the first Note4 I had, I tried ART and also choosing to Force GPU Rendering, but they made no difference.
Are you on snapdragon?
I guess the "buffering" is the whole problem. It seems touchwiz makes it worse, but then some apps are better than others, like the Air BnB test I did, it was very smooth even when photos were still being downloaded and rendered. There is a noticeable difference between my note 4 and my Nexus 5...
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Nope, I have not tweaked anything on the phone, my Antutu scores are fine... and with the first Note4 I had, I tried ART and also choosing to Force GPU Rendering, but they made no difference.
Are you on snapdragon?
I guess the "buffering" is the whole problem. It seems touchwiz makes it worse, but then some apps are better than others, like the Air BnB test I did, it was very smooth even when photos were still being downloaded and rendered. There is a noticeable difference between my note 4 and my Nexus 5...
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I have an Exynos device. Buffering is the only real lag that I see. Yes, there's a very slight stutter on certain lists (like my contacts, which has over 1500 people on it, most with photo avatars showing), but nothing like what I see in your video.
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the Sony Xperia XZ1 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
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Butter
i have some lags when scrolling web.
i have a glass protector so is it the problem ?
Fast and smooth.
So my black one didn't exhibit an issue as far as I could tell. My silver one though on the other hand has an issue.
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So my black one didn't exhibit an issue as far as I could tell. My silver one though on the other hand has an issue.
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what is that issue? I am own a silver one, too. And have some random lags
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what is that issue? I am own a silver one, too. And have some random lags
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It's not lags, its like random ghost touches. So the phone thinks it was touched and it hops into whatever.
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It's not lags, its like random ghost touches. So the phone thinks it was touched and it hops into whatever.
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So I am testing the last Android version to see if that is what it is. I put the latest update on my silver one as soon as I got it but my black one had .145 on it and I did not see the issue. I will report back once I use .145 on the silver.
Ok seems like .145 is much better than .179 in this respect. The weird thing is that on .179 it has problems. It seems to be slow to react at first. It's like it sticks for a second and then it thinks that it was just a tap instead of a glide. Might be the kernel or might be the rom. Who knows? I guess it could be my device too.
Exact like my problem.
I guess it is software issue and will be fix soon
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Exact like my problem.
I guess it is software issue and will be fix soon
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Yeah I'm just curious if anyone with other models have seen the issue on the new firmware or not. I never ran the new firmware on my black on before I returned it for the silver, so I can't say.
I have a silver XZ1, with the newest firmware, and have the same problem. It had this issue on the old firmware too. Sometimes when trying to scroll the phone registers a tap instead of a swipe. It is super annoying but it only happens once every 10 minutes on average.
It would be interesting to see if it also happens using a custom kernel / rom
I am using stock ROM with custom kernel, and it still happen.
Did you experience any random lag or UI's FPS drop?
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I have a silver XZ1, with the newest firmware, and have the same problem. It had this issue on the old firmware too. Sometimes when trying to scroll the phone registers a tap instead of a swipe. It is super annoying but it only happens once every 10 minutes on average.
It would be interesting to see if it also happens using a custom kernel / rom
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Interesting it seems to be only for the silver. Can someone with another model chime in? Maybe Ill switch to the blue or black and see.
I didn't see the issue with my black one but I switched to the silver cause I thought black was boring. Maybe I need blue then.
I got my green Xperia in October 2017, and loved it. Now, the battery lasts about 3/4 as long even though I have absolutely babied it. Never charged it in a car. Always used Sony's Smart Charge. Still pitiful longevity. Also, during the 50% power saver mode, it's unusable. Keyboard has. to. be. typed. so. slowly. If I use the software home/back/switch buttons then it is guaranted to get stuck in the Google Now assistant and not let me use my phone. Exit power saving mode, works like new. It didn't initally cripple my phone this much. Must be from installing 20 apps and having used 25/32GB onboard space.
Some phones exhibit choppy scrolling, especially when navigating long web pages when multiple apps are running in the background. Rate this thread to express how you smooth scrolling feels on the OnePlus 6 under such conditions. A higher rating indicates that scrolling is always buttery smooth, even when you're reading a 10,000 word article on "how to kiss a girl".
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Device is incredibly smooth. It seems like 60 fps in nearly all applications I've went through so far.
The only good phones I've ever used before this have been U11, View10 and that's it.
Scrolling is head and shoulders above them.
Literally smooooooth AF
Facing the scroll and touch issue
Sometimes scrolling is laggy, sometimes it stutters, sometimes it moves too fast when i scrolled it slowly.
Scrolling has been choppy since day 1 for me. There is small microstutter.
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Scrolling has been choppy since day 1 for me. There is small microstutter.
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Yup. The problem is, not everyone can see that. For instance, I said in an article that the Play Store (one example) is jittery/stuttery when scrolling up/down in pretty much every 'corner of the app. People thought I was trolling. And my eyes perceive those stutters as relatively obvious ones. I don't understand how people can't see that. Then there's Twitter. If people can't see that Twitter stutters like crazy, then I don't know what else to say. I don't think the OP6 is smoother than the Pixel 2XL, even though that one's a generation behind. Imagine how good the Pixel 3 is gonna be.
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Yup. The problem is, not everyone can see that. For instance, I said in an article that the Play Store (one example) is jittery/stuttery when scrolling up/down in pretty much every 'corner of the app. People thought I was trolling. And my eyes perceive those stutters as relatively obvious ones. I don't understand how people can't see that. Then there's Twitter. If people can't see that Twitter stutters like crazy, then I don't know what else to say. I don't think the OP6 is smoother than the Pixel 2XL, even though that one's a generation behind. Imagine how good the Pixel 3 is gonna be.
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Yeah. Most people probably don't notice it, but my eyes are very sensitive to it. I game on a 165 Hz G-sync monitor and I still notice microstutter at high frame rates lol. I wonder how havoc os or lineage os is? Maybe it's just the OS and not the device causing it.
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Yeah. Most people probably don't notice it, but my eyes are very sensitive to it. I game on a 165 Hz G-sync monitor and I still notice microstutter at high frame rates lol. I wonder how havoc os or lineage os is? Maybe it's just the OS and not the device causing it.
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Of course the device is not the cause. It's the software that facilitates the appearance of these jitters/stutters. It's all about optimization.
I only got one issue with stuttering. That was on day one, when camera application stuttered and crashed. After that everything went fine. That probably because I had two camera apps. One of device and one installed from Play Store.
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Yeah. Most people probably don't notice it, but my eyes are very sensitive to it. I game on a 165 Hz G-sync monitor and I still notice microstutter at high frame rates lol. I wonder how havoc os or lineage os is? Maybe it's just the OS and not the device causing it.
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Same here with the 165hz gsync and very sensitive eyes.. Thus far I haven't noticed any stutters on the device yet been using Instagram, telegram and chrome but nothing so far on latest update.
If I compare my s7 edge that was just a nightmare of stutters.
Yup I get stuttering here, similar to my 3 back in the day. I wonder if tweaking the cpu governor has the same effects as it did on my 3. There is no "conservative" selection anymore.
O notice in some apps now. Not in chrome or Samsung browser (use it for better battery for some reason..)
But apps like Instagram (when loading pictures)
And also play store (most likely loading something too)
I'm thinking it's more about poorly designed apps rather that the device itself.
It seems that scrolling smoothness took a hit after the Pie update, many apps (including chrome) seem to stutter a lot for me.
dax105 said:
It seems that scrolling smoothness took a hit after the Pie update, many apps (including chrome) seem to stutter a lot for me.
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Absolutely true. I just couldn't take it anymore and decided to install the latest Open Beta build, considering that Beta 3 was pretty smooth overall. And yes, Beta 4 is smoother than stable Pie. I don't get how the initial stable Pie build managed to make it to the masses in such a state. For the past few days, the experience on my phone was utter s#!t. I'll stay on Open Beta until things get better on 'stable Pie.
Is there scroll stutter on pie-based LOS and Havoc OS or is it limited to OOS only?
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It seems that scrolling smoothness took a hit after the Pie update, many apps (including chrome) seem to stutter a lot for me.
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Same here... spontaneous framedrops/stutter whiles scrolling, very annoying. Beta3 felt a lot smoother to me!
Every second day have to reboot phone into recovery to wipe cache. Reason being, I'm completely unable to type anything correctly when entering text.
Recent apps lag
Hello everyone,
I'm experiencing some stutter and lags with my One Plus 6. For exempe, if I scroll quickly trough the recent apps in the multitask, I can see some frame drops and it's very annoying. I don't understand why...It should work extremely fluessly with a Snapdragon 845. Are some people having the same issue here ?
Thank you so much !
The only way I've found of stopping the stuttering and poor scrolling is for to go to developer options and set the background process limit to "at most, 4 process"
dax105 said:
It seems that scrolling smoothness took a hit after the Pie update, many apps (including chrome) seem to stutter a lot for me.
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I to have this problem. Scrolling would be smooth then suddenly the frames drop for a short time. This happens randomly. :/
Anybody know of a fix for the ridiculous amount of lag on Pie? Between that and the sad excuse of video recording, I'm really debating on going back to my buttery smooth Z2force. The only problem is this phone is pure eye candy, comfortable to hold, and my hands have betrayed my eyes recognition of the lag and fell in love this phone. . The performance is more like snapdragon 620 than 835. Any help regarding this situation would be highly appreciated
I have no lag on Pie, beta 3 or official. Sounds like your due for a full wipe
Well now that sucks considering I just moved about 90gigs to the device and thought I did a full wipe but just notice Alexa still installed. The funny thing is I had very little late lag on Beta 3.
mookiexl said:
Well now that sucks considering I just moved about 90gigs to the device and thought I did a full wipe but just notice Alexa still installed. The funny thing is I had very little late lag on Beta 3.
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I discovered this a month ago and it helps.just go to root/system/buildprop. Add the following to right under additional build settings.then reboot. That's the default setting, but u can mess with the value to get it to your liking
You're only saying there is lag, you're not describing where you are seeing this lag?
The only thing I can say is I thought apps would open faster on this, I have a phone with a SD625, and between this and the Essential, opening and closing apps seems like the same speed. But the startup on the Essential is faster...
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You're only saying there is lag, you're not describing where you are seeing this lag?
The only thing I can say is I thought apps would open faster on this, I have a phone with an SD625, and between this and the Essential, opening and closing apps seems like the same speed. But the startup on the Essential is faster...
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Scrolling in-app, swiping in-app and launcher, and also scrolling cards in recents. I have a z2force with SD835 and comparing this phone to the z2 this phone feels like an SD626
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Scrolling in-app, swiping in-app and launcher, and also scrolling cards in recents. I have a z2force with SD835 and comparing this phone to the z2 this phone feels like an SD626
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If I were you, I'd wipe everything, and then fastboot the full official pie update. Just to fully eliminate software.
Hi there I am the same boat like you . I got lag typing on keyboard scroll is not smooth at all .I tried reinstalling the latest build and factory full reset pus wipe all data .I can't resolve the lag I think they rush to get it in the same date like the pixel but is not optimised for this device for example get an icon and hold it and get it to place it in another location you will find out that the icon is behind when you move it
The only and I think temporary fix is by doing this
Go and click 5 times on build number and go in developer settings you will find there touch sensitivity set it to 10 let say default is 4 I think . You will improve touch latency a bit .
I just bought the device I don't know how it was on Oreo but I can say on this pie build official is not smooth
@mookiexl got to the Developer Options;
Windows animation scale - off
Transition animation scale - off or .5x
Animator duration scale - off or .5x
Also increasing the 'Touch Sensitivity' increases the scrolling speed.
Play with these and watch it fly! LOL
It would be great if someone can take a video so we can actually see this lag with our own eyes.
I just got my phone and it turned out bad, sending it back, new one on the way. It makes me wonder now if all the stories about bad hardware is true on these phones, since I've never had a bad phone ever in my life, then my first Essential turns out bad.
Wifi problems connecting
Statusbar icons appearing in white, turn all black
Phone speaker, bad quality, can't even turn it up, or it gets distorted
Head speaker, is low, volume isn't loud enough
Adaptive brightness doesn't work
Volume got stuck at one point when it was set as all the way down, no sound, then I wasn't able turn the sound back on, nothing would happen on either buttons...
So hopefully new phone arriving will be better, and from this experience, I think I'll keep it on Oreo for a long time, until people start raving over Pie.
And between a SD625 and this SD835, can't say I saw a big speed difference too... hmm
post error...
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@mookiexl got to the Developer Options;
Windows animation scale - off
Transition animation scale - off or .5x
Animator duration scale - off or .5x
Also increasing the 'Touch Sensitivity' increases the scrolling speed.
Play with these and watch it fly! LOL
It would be great if someone can take a video so we can actually see this lag with our own eyes.
I just got my phone and it turned out bad, sending it back, new one on the way. It makes me wonder now if all the stories about bad hardware is true on these phones, since I've never had a bad phone ever in my life, then my first Essential turns out bad.
Wifi problems connecting
Statusbar icons appearing in white, turn all black
Phone speaker, bad quality, can't even turn it up, or it gets distorted
Head speaker, is low, volume isn't loud enough
Adaptive brightness doesn't work
Volume got stuck at one point when it was set as all the way down, no sound, then I wasn't able turn the sound back on, nothing would happen on either buttons...
So hopefully new phone arriving will be better, and from this experience, I think I'll keep it on Oreo for a long time, until people start raving over Pie.
And between a SD625 and this SD835, can't say I saw a big speed difference too... hmm
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I hear ya brother. To be fair I haven't had any of those other problems I heard about before buying the phone besides what's mentioned in this thread. 3rd party camera apps with full manual control drastically improved camera quality for my device. If you want to see the lag I'm taking about just YouTube it.
As far as SD625 and Sd835, there's a huge difference for me being a power user. Lots of gaming, editing videos, download big files, or even just transferring data from internal to external sd you will definitely see a big difference in performance during any memory extensive task.
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Do you know any YouTube videos with the same issues you're having, you can show us?
I only found one for Camera Portrait Lag.
Fastboot install of 9.0 over the official July 8.1. Magisk root.
No device lag or issues with WiFi, volume or any of the things above. The only lag I see is my own getting to grips with the UI changes.
USOpen device used in the UK.
It sounds like you're both having some kind of install/integrity issue. Did you test the checksum?
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@mookiexl
Do you know any YouTube videos with the same issues you're having, you can show us?
I only found one for Camera Portrait Lag.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbw_TUnfXuU
kboya said:
Fastboot install of 9.0 over the official July 8.1. Magisk root.
No device lag or issues with WiFi, volume or any of the things above. The only lag I see is my own getting to grips with the UI changes.
USOpen device used in the UK.
It sounds like you're both having some kind of install/integrity issue. Did you test the checksum?
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All I've done since receiving the device is take all system updates and then unlocked bootloader which in turn wipe data. See the video I posted for details. If you have another SD835 device to compare it too try tha,t or better yet don't because it will make the lag very bothersome once you know its there.
That video is a year old. I have no discernible lag even with upward of 20 apps in the background, but I'm not saying that you don't.
Also, I had this and a Google PXL at the same time up until a few weeks ago. If anything, the PH1 was better, smoother and faster.
I've got serious lag... Keyoress lag, stuttering during scrolling. Could it be because of RAM usage? The stats in developer options say that I using 3.4 out of 3.9 gb on average....
garywojdan81 said:
I have no lag on Pie, beta 3 or official. Sounds like your due for a full wipe
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Can you explain how I dod a full wipe?
Since the Dec update much less ram.locked up
autosurgeon said:
Since the Dec update much less ram.locked up
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I'm on November and ram management Is fine for me.
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