Stock Messenger app issues - Samsung Galaxy S8 Questions and Answers

So lately ive been having rather annoying issues while texting. To start im on T-Mobile. So ill be texting all day and then my texts will start to hang on the sending, little circle spinning forever, and then ill get a not sent error. However the text would have been sent so imagine how annoying texting me must be when im spamming the retry and its actually sending when it says it isn't. So I started cycling Airplane mode on and off and then I noticed something strange. After waiting close to a minute ill cycle airplane mode, magically the text is sent and a reply will load.
After that happened since im heavily using FB messenger anyways I made that the default app and I never had an issue minus one time. Im now using android messenger but I liked the stock app. SOOOOO the question is, has anyone else had this? is there a way to clear out and default out the stock app? I cant uninstall it it seems either.

anyone?

I'm on T-Mobile but waiting on my S8 to arrive so cant check.
I would imagine that it might be an RCS issue if you're texting other T-Mobile users on Samsung phones. If you're not and it does it regardless of who you text. I would try clearing the data/cache from the Messenger app.
I saw a somewhat similar issue when I had an HTC phone and used Googles basic Messenger app. It would frequently say a message wasn't sent. Yet the HTC app showed it as sent. I would hit resend and they would get spammed. Eventually I ignored it saying it failed.
If you tried other sms apps and it still does it then it's somewhere else on the phone. Maybe a glitch that might be fixed with a reflash. Or if it's in the network it self then Tmobile would have to make sure your Imei is being reported properly to their systems.

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messages in sms threads out of order.

hi, ive been using super hero beta 2 and until yesterday i had no problems. but all of a sudden, every time i got a text, the most recent received message would be put before all of the messages i sent. so in the message thread, the received messages are in order but all together at the top of the thread. my sent messages are in order but all at the bottom of the thread. the messages arent in order of the conversation. its really annoying to always have to scroll up to find what someone has sent me.
i didnt think much of it because i figure a wipe would fix it. today, i wiped and installed the new jacman rom and am still having the same exact problem.
is anyone else having this problem? does anyone know how to fix it? thanks!
this has been an issue for a few people, if t-mobile is doing tower work in your area it will screw with stuff like timestamps(are those correct for both incoming and outgoing?) and order of messages
Are you using the stock messaging or chomp sms? I used to have this same problem with chomp, then I upgraded to JF 1.5 and didn't need chomp anymore. Stock messaging has never done this thus far, but I know how annoying it is.
My nstive messaging app is doing that! It was frustrating as hell I did a wipe, flashed a different Hero rom, and still. I downloaded Chomp it has no issues....its the message app that is doing it to me
I have never had this issue before (except a brief trial of chomp) and then 2 days ago it started happening to me from my gf's phone to mine. I have seen it on a Hero build, a Rogers build, Ion build, and now The Dudes Rogers build. Next step im going to check the clock on her phone and see if that may be part of the issue or something.
The only time I've ever seen this problem is when two texts are sent/received within the same minute, and they would be grouped similar to that. So, for example, if someone sends me two texts within a minute, and I reply twice to those messages, and they would group similar to the original poster.
Have we tried rebooting? Is this present across multiple SMS threads? Using simple stock firmware/messaging app, or even going as far as installing a new messanging app amd seeing those results?
In all honesty, Hero is no where near perfect right now and probably won't be for a long while. It was never meant to go on the G1 so we can't expect perfect results just yet. Try using a different ROM, and see what results you get.
What I think you might want to try first, however, is to not use network provided values for the clock. Try using the phone's clock values. You can change this in Settings->Date and Time. Erase all threads, and chat away. Let me know the results.
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I've been using TheDude's build for over 2 months now, and I've never experienced problems like this. If this is so common place across all these builds, have you seen the same results on a stock build?
birkholze said:
is anyone else having this problem? does anyone know how to fix it? thanks!
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My GF's G1 started having messages appear out of order a couple/few days ago as well. I'm in the Orlando area. I figured it's T-Mobile screwing with the configuration of their messaging servers as someone mentioned earlier. Hopefully it clears up soon.
Time fixes everything
the problem was happening with the stock messaging app. just appeared out of no where. it doesnt even happen on every conversation, it happens to the three or so i text most often. my time stamps in the messages are correct, the other person's messages usually have a pattern of being 4 exactly 4 hours behind, but some times they just get jumbled with random time stamps.
i tried the date & time thing then a restart and im still having the same problem..
Same thing keeps happening to me, I am on the Super Hero v2 build and it also happened to me on the v1 beta build.
I switched back to ION yesterday and it stopped...and switched back and it started instantly again...Coincidence ?
Everyone is saying it's happening on every build, but I have only experienced it on Hero.
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Apparently, as far as my GF has noticed, it is only happening with MY messages to her, not other contacts. I've got Sprint, she's obviously on T-Mobile. Anyone else notice if it's only from certain (non-T-Mobile) customers? I suspect it's a particular SMS exchange server screwing up the timestamps.
When I had this problem it was from a tmobile number(one of my faves) and a verizon number so I'm not sure that its carrier related

[Q] Stuck "Sending.." GMAIL

I know there is already a thread on stuck sending text message, ive only had that happen to me twice and both times they turned grey after a few minutes and said "failed" I just hit resend and it works fine.
My issue is that emails, 5 times now have got stuck on sending and never time out.
Is there anyway to fix this quickly? The only thing I have got to work is unsyncing my account that I was sending it from and then resyncing it.
every time this has happened i was sending multiple files, and had an intermittent 3g connection.
If this is the same issue as the other thread feel free to move this post into that thread.
mrhocuspocus said:
I know there is already a thread on stuck sending text message, ive only had that happen to me twice and both times they turned grey after a few minutes and said "failed" I just hit resend and it works fine.
My issue is that emails, 5 times now have got stuck on sending and never time out.
Is there anyway to fix this quickly? The only thing I have got to work is unsyncing my account that I was sending it from and then resyncing it.
every time this has happened i was sending multiple files, and had an intermittent 3g connection.
If this is the same issue as the other thread feel free to move this post into that thread.
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Excellent question, I have had this happen to me as well. Here is what I did to (I think) fix it:
Uninstall/delete the Gmail.apk from /system/app using Root Explorer or ADB. Next I pushed the stock Gmail.apk from a zip I had lying around and rebooted. Once the app is reinstalled I went to the market and updated it to the newest version, which ended up fixing the problem. I hope this helps, I know your pain
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well i just updated gmail, i wish i hadnt deleted the sending email so i could see if it fixed it.
but i did try to send a couple more emails before updating and none of them would send. .. now they send fine.
before it would just happen randomly, so lets hope it was just a bug in the old gmail app.
mrhocuspocus said:
well i just updated gmail, i wish i hadnt deleted the sending email so i could see if it fixed it.
but i did try to send a couple more emails before updating and none of them would send. .. now they send fine.
before it would just happen randomly, so lets hope it was just a bug in the old gmail app.
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Eh most likely it would have stopped them from sending anyway while it updated. Glad that fixed the problem, if the issue arises again feel free to post again in this thread.
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Happens to me all the time as well. I just clear data and then it works again for a little while.
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The solution is to exit out of gmail and it will send in a few seconds.
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Cycling airplane mode sometimes helps with issues like this for me.
Top Nurse said:
The solution is to exit out of gmail and it will send in a few seconds.
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cmon toppy nursey, do you really think, that you got people in here restarting their phone, deleting storage, deleting syncs... etc and nobody tried to exit gmail and wait a few seconds...
Going into airplane mode was also one of the first things I tried it didnt help at all.
Well I can confirm that the problem still happens with the latest gmail. even if you can delete the email thats stuck sending... if you try to send another one it will get stuck as well. the quickest solution works for me is clear data and clear cache of the gmail app. If it happens again Im going to try to just clear cache and see if that works.
I will update this thread in the future if I find any more information out.
mrhocuspocus said:
cmon toppy nursey, do you really think, that you got people in here restarting their phone, deleting storage, deleting syncs... etc and nobody tried to exit gmail and wait a few seconds...
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Actually when I first noticed the problem I read a lot around here and people were coming up with all sorts of complex solutions. I tried those as well, but often the simple solution is usually the most elegant. Instead of focusing in on the problem it is better to understand exactly what is going on that causes what you are seeing.
Yes, the simple solution is to just exit out of gmail and wait for gmail to execute its programming and send out your email. Constantly "checking" just exacerbates the problem.
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This isn't a Gmail specific problem. It happens with Yahoo Mail and the stock email app that came with the Epic. I switched to Gmail to avoid this problem but it did not help. I also will have outgoing email send multiple times which us extremely annoying. This happens on 3g and wifi, so its not a connectivity issue.
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Top Nurse said:
Actually when I first noticed the problem I read a lot around here and people were coming up with all sorts of complex solutions. I tried those as well, but often the simple solution is usually the most elegant. Instead of focusing in on the problem it is better to understand exactly what is going on that causes what you are seeing.
Yes, the simple solution is to just exit out of gmail and wait for gmail to execute its programming and send out your email. Constantly "checking" just exacerbates the problem.
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Can you please elaborate on "understanding what exactly is going on" all you said was its executing programming.. to me it seems like its not doing anything, or its stuck in a loop.
Ive had emails stuck "sending..." for 48 hours before... so if waiting is the solution, I cant wait 2+ days to send an email.
I really hope you can explain whats happening, Im interested and it sounds like you know what you are talking about at a coding level.
clearing data in gmail and clearing data in google frameworks did it for me when I have sending problems.
Truth!
musclehead84 said:
Happens to me all the time as well. I just clear data and then it works again for a little while.
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+1. I cleared data at it worked for me. It's been about a week since I originally had to "infinite sending" problem.
mrhocuspocus said:
Can you please elaborate on "understanding what exactly is going on" all you said was its executing programming.. to me it seems like its not doing anything, or its stuck in a loop.
I really hope you can explain whats happening, Im interested and it sounds like you know what you are talking about at a coding level.
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Sorry for not getting back to you sooner, but had to have some leg surgery to keep some slow flesh eating bacteria at bay. I'm not a coder or even a programmer. What I do seem to do very well is looking at complex problems and coming up with simple solutions. You might consider me to be a systems analyst (aka a RN) so to speak.
Since we live in a logical world things happen for a reason. In the case of computers we can assume that every result is brought upon us by the action or inaction of a program. Thus the simple solution for this problem is to forget about it and check back with Gmail when we next need to use the app. It's not a fix per se, but an analysis of what is going on. Works every time for me.
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Clearing data "cache" and force stopping works every time for me

Strangest issue I have ever seen....

Not even sure if this is XPlay specific. I have ONE contact, one friend that if I try to text message her my messaging program FC's. I even tried deleting her and physically entering her phone number, and it FC's. Every other contact or anything else I do, works fine. I tried clearing data for messaging, tried clearing data for contacts. My phone is stock and not rooted or anything at all. Anyone ever seen this?
Your phone is just looking out for you. Stay away from her!
j/k
I've never seen this issue before...
hairdewx said:
Your phone is just looking out for you. Stay away from her!
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I've never seen this issue before...
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She is a bit crazy lol, but a good friend.
I can't even imagine if it was my girlfriend that this problem was with. "Sorry sweetie I can't text you because my phone keeps crashing the text message app, but ONLY for you". That would go over real well!
That's odd.
Try using GoSMS and/or handcent sms and see if they get the same problem.
well I just made it worse...
I called her and had her text me, instead of a text coming through i get a force close message. Even better I think its jammed and trying to send it through so I'm getting the error over again every few minutes.
I think I'm gonna need to reset my phone
EDIT: it stopped after a bit. Also scrolling through my contacts I found another contact with the same issue.
EDIT #2: While typing Edit #1 I realized both are contacts that I text often. However recently I lowered my saves message limit from 100 to 50. I had manually deleted some threads including threads from these two people and they had over 100 messages. I went into messages and did a "delete all" and that cleared the issue.

Messenger after update always states I have unread messages

Has anyone else run into this issue in the past week or so? Soon as I updated to the newest version of Google messenger ah which is now "Android messages" probably to reduce confusion between Facebook messenger, my messages app always says I have unread messages which I do not. I also do not use any other messaging app for texting. I do not even have the Facebook messenger app.
Things I have tried:
Deleting data on messages, fixes it temporarily after a restart but then comes right back.
Uninstalled app, restarted, reinstalled, restarted, still does it.
Tried clicking on every individual text message on each person, doesn't fix it.
Bothers me so much I did a factory reset, put no apps on my phone, disabled any bloat, downloaded Android messages, tried it, still saying I have unread messages.
I have no idea what else to try, from what I have heard on Reddit, many others are experiencing the same problem and no fix for them that they knew of yet.
I'm thinking it must be something with the recent update, obviously that was my first deduction after updating and it happening literally right after with never having problems but I'd figure I would try stuff and see what happens.
BlueForce64 said:
Has anyone else run into this issue in the past week or so? Soon as I updated to the newest version of Google messenger ah which is now "Android messages" probably to reduce confusion between Facebook messenger, my messages app always says I have unread messages which I do not. I also do not use any other messaging app for texting. I do not even have the Facebook messenger app.
Things I have tried:
Deleting data on messages, fixes it temporarily after a restart but then comes right back.
Uninstalled app, restarted, reinstalled, restarted, still does it.
Tried clicking on every individual text message on each person, doesn't fix it.
Bothers me so much I did a factory reset, put no apps on my phone, disabled any bloat, downloaded Android messages, tried it, still saying I have unread messages.
I have no idea what else to try, from what I have heard on Reddit, many others are experiencing the same problem and no fix for them that they knew of yet.
I'm thinking it must be something with the recent update, obviously that was my first deduction after updating and it happening literally right after with never having problems but I'd figure I would try stuff and see what happens.
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Any updates? My wife's ZF is experiencing the same thing. I noticed it on my own device a few days ago, but, since I run Action Launcher, I just turned off notification badges.
Had same exact issue but fixed it
Yes I've had this same issue since the update and it turned out to be related to Verizon Messages app. I opened Verizon Messages, opened each "unread" thread then I closed the app and disabled it. No issues since then with the notification bug in Android Messages. Also I made Verizon Messages the default messenger temporarily while I did the above and then afterward I switched it back to Android Messages
I followed almost the exact same steps, except for making it the default messenger. I'll try it again today and see if it works. Thanks!
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Yes I've had this same issue since the update and it turned out to be related to Verizon Messages app. I opened Verizon Messages, opened each "unread" thread then I closed the app and disabled it. No issues since then with the notification bug in Android Messages. Also I made Verizon Messages the default messenger temporarily while I did the above and then afterward I switched it back to Android Messages
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Hmmm, this also did not work for me. I did make it my default messenger while I read the messages then went to disable and force stop it. I tried many variations of enabling and disabling the app too like blocking notifications, turning off system control, denying all permissions, nothing seems to work. I guess we'll just have to wait for an official fix it seems.
Same here. My wife's has been doing this for the past week. Mine just received the push today for it so now mine is doing it. Hopefully they resolve the issue soon.
Ugh same here again..
Yeah it's happening again now on mine so it does indeed look like we will have to wait for an official fix :-/ I think I might just download an older version apk until they are able to push a fix out for it
Same problem here. Uninstalled and rebooted. Did not install update. Works fine. Will wait for next update release before trying update again.
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3rd Party Messaging Apps will not receive text

Hello All!
I've been having this problem for a few weeks now and im all out of ideas of what to do.
Carrier: T-Mobile
Wearable: S3 Rugged
Extra Service: DIGITS
Coming From: LGV20 which never had these issues with the same plans and accesories
So to start, when i got the phone inittially during setup of the google accounts i noticed that my OTP SMS Pushes were not being received, or auto filling the information. I skipped past all of that and noticed that anywhere that OTP text were suppose to autofill in different applications, it would not even when i received the text and got a notification.
So after a while of using TEXTRA which was working fine, one day i stopped receiving ALL text not just mms. I was able to send but never was I able to get anything from anyone. I ditched TEXTRA and went back to the stock Samsung app and noticed that all text were there, even though it was not default. After using the Samsung messages app i decided to go back to textra, heres whats funny. After Textra did it's initial setup, it only showed half of the recieved text from up to that day. Messages were incomplete, some just had one reply from a user and nothing else. So I also tried this with Android Messages and it had the EXACT same message log as textra. Both were not receiving the full logs from the server. Today Android Messaging was working for a good part of the day, then it just stopped all of sudden again.
Can someone help me with this, I've wiped the cache and factory reset the phone. Ive added and removed the multi-line settings in the samsung settings. I've tried the legacy settings on textra. I've called the DIGIT's customer service to see if they could fix it but they made and interesting point that it couldnt be digit because it wouldnt interfere with 3rd part messaging apps. When i switch apps i always make them default, i wipe the app cache etc.
I have a gut feeling this has something to do with something with the default Samsung Messages app and it somehow restricting use outside of it.
I just wanted to reply and say that I've been experiencing the exact same issue and haven't had any luck Google engineering my way around it. For me, I'm seeing the issue with Signal, so I don't believe it's the 3rd party app's problem. I can send messages (SMS/MMS), but the Samsung Messages app is the only one that "receives" them. A strange workaround I found was to download Android Messenger, set that as the default messaging app, then set Signal as the default messaging app again. This worked for a while, but I think the Samsung Messages app recently updated, and it broke this again until I repeated the above workaround.
It's annoying enough that, without a fix, I'll definitely be flashing a completely stripped ROM on this phone once we have the ability to do so to get away from all of the Samsung apps that I can't disable. And don't even get me started on Bixby...
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I just wanted to reply and say that I've been experiencing the exact same issue and haven't had any luck Google engineering my way around it. For me, I'm seeing the issue with Signal, so I don't believe it's the 3rd party app's problem. I can send messages (SMS/MMS), but the Samsung Messages app is the only one that "receives" them. A strange workaround I found was to download Android Messenger, set that as the default messaging app, then set Signal as the default messaging app again. This worked for a while, but I think the Samsung Messages app recently updated, and it broke this again until I repeated the above workaround.
It's annoying enough that, without a fix, I'll definitely be flashing a completely stripped ROM on this phone once we have the ability to do so to get away from all of the Samsung apps that I can't disable. And don't even get me started on Bixby...
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I haven't had any issues with my At&t model...Been using Yaata since day one (about 2 months).
Also, there are some "package disabling" apps in the play store that will allow you to disable any app you want, you don't even need to be rooted. It cost me $1.99 (or around there), but was well worth it! You can even completely disable Bixby, so the button is even non-responsive.
Having the same issue and I may have fixed it. I logged completely out of Digits on the phone (settings/cloud accounts/multi line/hit the ... menu and choose log out.
I have this same issue. No matter which 3rd party SMS app I use I have missing text messages on the T-Mobile S8. Has anyone fixed this? It is driving me crazy. T-Mobile replaced my S8 and the new one does it (not as bad but it does it more than I'd like). How can I resolve this? My friend haf the same issue, he has an unlocked T-Mobile working on AT&T.
I don't use Digits or anything like that... any ideas?
hi guys
all you need to do
go to setings
device maintence
battery
scrool all the way down to unmonitored apps and add your 3rd party sms app
youre welcome
This still didn't work for me and I am having the same exact issues. I have tried installing 2 different 3rd party messaging (Textra and Mood) and both were not working properly. I can send messages out just fine but when I receive them they are delayed (like 5 minutes or longer). Sometimes, I don't get the messages at all. Of course, the Samsung Messaging app (which I hate) works just fine. I have even "Force Stopped" it! What to do?
go into the stock messaging app, and turn off advanced messaging
Has anyone found a solution? I've been using textra for years & suddenly in March I started having this problem but with sent messages. All incoming texts are displayed but my sent texts aren't. I did try the 2 suggestions above. On a note 8, Android 8.0.0,Samsung experience 9.0.
SOLVED. I had the same issues and found the solution. Before you install your 3rd party sms/MMS you need to disable the default messenger. I uninstalled signal, disabled the built-in messenger, reinstalled signal. Now I can receive texts. Also my phone is not a Samsung.

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