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Xiaomi MI-2

http://asia.cnet.com/xiaomi-mi2-quad-core-android-smartphone-announced-62218345.htm
http://miuiandroid.com/community/threads/first-photos-of-the-xiaomi-mi-2.17591/
I think I just found my new phone, upgrading from SGS2. The specs blow away any phone right now.
* Qualcomm 8064 CPU (Quadcore)
* 2GB RAM
* 16GB ROM
* Graphics processing comparable to the XBOX 360 (Adreno 320 graphics chip)
* 2000 mAh 3000 mAh battery upgrades
* 4.3 inches high PPI retina screen, 1280x720 resolution. The touch screen to do (the OGS / TOL), the single glass fit technology, Ultra Narrow design to protect the glass.
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Not sure if it has expandable storage. But by currency conversion it works out: $315/£200!!
Should be released in October. Hope it works in UK

Nice phone! If only we could get it for under $400 shipped in USA. Hopefully works for T-Mobile....

even anand is blown away
Xiaomi Mi-2 - the worlds fastest smartphone with xbox 360 graphics
Impressive specs
http://www.anandtech.com/Show/Index...nnounces-miui-phone-mitwo-with-apq8064-inside
http://www.xiaomi.com/mi2
90fps

I wonder if this will have solid rom AOSP/ROM support... you might imagine so considering it's running MIUI out of the box.
Also, battery life.

Will it have an english MIUI available though?

Great specs, especially love the option for 3000mAh albeit with an extra 2mm thickness. But no mention of an SD card slot?? 16GB inside is fine but not enough for me on the whole.

I want one so bad! Hopefully we can manage to get them here in the US for under $400... It's beautiful.

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Will it have an english MIUI available though?
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Yes it will.
Just wondering if it will work in the UK

Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
Apparently this company has some very interesting marketing strategies, the price is apparently more so an initial head turner and far from permanent. Supply is also iffy.
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Only missing feature is NFC, but hard to complain about at that price with those specs. Even if it comes in at $450 or so in the end that's around the Xperia P range so not out of sorts. We'll see if they release the goodies for the devs to tinker with.

Has this gone on sale in China? Maybe one of the Chinese users could clear our queries with regards to this phone. I'm chiefly concerned about the following things:
1. English support (should mostly have)
2. AOSP support (almost certainly might have)
3. Build quality and spares!!
Damn it I live in India and we are China's neighbours. Start selling you phones here guys!

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30418051#post30418051

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Based on what I've read, don't expect to get your hands on it until the specs are no longer a wow factor.
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Disagree, for that price it will be a wow factor at that time of release and a few months after release

you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
I'm giving this a try :silly:
http://www.androidforcheap.com/note...3-os-wcdma-3g-gps-wifi-smart-phone-p-310.html
or this
http://www.androidforcheap.com/i930...-pixel-camera-micro-sim-card-phone-p-453.html
amazing what they can produce here :cyclops:

don't expect aosp support as they will probably never release the kernel source. the first one was okay... many of my friends have them but.although they get updates every week they still seem to be only about 75 stable.. the new one has me interested from a cheap hardware angle but I like beingable to choose my own Rom

@joshofbass
what do you mean by "they still seem to be only about 75 stable"?
reboots? freeze? I need a dual sim so that i don't have to lug around 3 phones

NFC??
Does anyone know if the MI-2 supports NFC technology?
I have seen many websites which write the specs and other useful information,but none is mentioning whether or not it has a nfc chip.

NFC is not listed in the specs on the official homepage. Neither is microsd support, btw ...

the best phone!

mengfei said:
you can get it here & also post & ask some questions, looks like a reliable dealer
http://www.androidforcheap.com/xiao...creen-wifi-gps-android-40-os-phone-p-464.html
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Already sold out

Battery is for being "capable".

Why people buy phones with disgustingly crap batteries? Because manufacturers make them and people just accept it?
I am sick of hearing about phones weights differences in few grams, (our phone is thinner by 1 mm!!! -how sad) , about screens quality, about processors speeds, etc, and on.. Just because this is where all attention is?
What is use of it all if then users have to carry chargers wherever they go, they have to disable network modes, tweak performance, buy and run monitoring softwear, a lots of hassle JUST BECAUSE those manufacturers are jerks! Like there is problem to give proper large battery option to chose and we will see how market reacts?
I got phone from China with larger battery than you can get on any European market and I am finally happy, I don't worry about anything anymore.
On purpose I set everything to look nice, bright, run fast and never worry about any tweaks unless I suspect unhappiness from performance being somehow compromised, I do play games, I do use internet, I do stream and do other things without fear of not having more power for a call I may need to make. At end of day I have still 50% which will last next day easily.
BATTERY IS CRUCIAL PART OF THE PHONE. MUST NOT BE REDUCED IN PERFORMANCE IN ANY WAY (reducing size).
This is why we have smartphones to do many things quickly at any time instead switch all those cool features off, like everyday life was emergency situation for saving battery -ON DAILY BASIS?
P.S. some brands thinks I will carry second battery with me like I have a pocket and good will to open my phone and swap batteries??? really??? or taking ugly external USB-battery, swinging on cable while I am using my phone or looking ugly like second half of nadset to damage my USB socket with a time and have a patience to keep it charged -like a second device?
How ridiculous...

Battery performance actually did advance with processing technology over the years. It's not just sheer capacity that tripled, but efficiency became better. A top-end phone of today easily has 10 times more performance than a smartphone of 4 years back with so much bigger and higher-res screen not to mention extra antennas and extra ongoing processes, yet when HW/SW is properly balanced, it can last the same full day. Samsung and HTC are doing it right lately while Apple is particularly power-efficient, to expect anything more there has to be a battery tech revolution.
Much bigger manufacturer BS is storage capacity. A 64GB module hardly costs more than $20 for them and all gadgets should start with that going up to 256GB, but at least HTC is skipping the 16GB variant and you get a healthy space for starting price. You see they can't really put significantly bigger battery in a phone where they could put more storage in it, they just don't want to.

Are you specifically moaning about the HTC one or just phones in general? The one, in reviews, has been shown to perform admirably.

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/sigh

Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.

No.

mass.w said:
Along with battery, everything moved on and needs more resources.
Still, batteries could give us more freedom, especially now, when 4G is in use.
Their size should not be reduced.
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hey - in all seriousness, i found what you need.
phone

it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years

you may believe I need your response more?

mass.w said:
it is general experience of few handset of different brands I had within last few years
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so why are you posting it in the HTC ONE FORUM
a phone that is not released, not thoroughly reviewed and YOU DO NOT OWN

by mistake, sorry.
however your replies were not even funny.
i suppose sure htc is not a leader regarding battery-exeperience

Who has an S5 and is getting a Note 4?

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Don't know for you guys, but the Note 4 is probably the phone i've been waiting for for years. If these picture turn out to be true, i'm pulling the trigger on that one. Metal frame, 2K display, 4K recording, IOS, 3GB RAM, 32GB of storage minimum...yup, that most likely is my dream phone. I know this phone looks like a giant S2, but the S2 is the galaxy phone i liked the design the most.
Because of my carriers flexible upgrade policies, i've been upgrading phone every 6 months for the S and note line respectively, but after seeing this Note, I'm almost certain I will keep it until the next Note comes out, unless the S6 will be ever more beastly of course!!:fingers-crossed:
There are a few features I hope this phone will have, most of all, stereo speakers. I can see one speaker grill on the bottom, i hope there is another one on top. Besides that, i would not spit on integrated wireless charging. I mean waiting a few months and paying an additional 70$ for a wireless charging back and pad is a bit ridiculous. I also hope they make a few features better, such as fingerprint sensor, which i dont use because i think it's such a drag to swipe your finger on the button, i honestly hope they go for the same idea apple did with their 5S

polish_pat said:
Don't know for you guys, but the Note 4 is probably the phone i've been waiting for for years. If these picture turn out to be true, i'm pulling the trigger on that one. Metal frame, 2K display, 4K recording, IOS, 3GB RAM, 32GB of storage minimum...yup, that most likely is my dream phone. I know this phone looks like a giant S2, but the S2 is the galaxy phone i liked the design the most.
Because of my carriers flexible upgrade policies, i've been upgrading phone every 6 months for the S and note line respectively, but after seeing this Note, I'm almost certain I will keep it until the next Note comes out, unless the S6 will be ever more beastly of course!!:fingers-crossed:
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The Note line have always been the real Samsug flasgships since release. Don`t know if i`ll get it though, i`ll wait for the Nexus 6 probably

ill be getting a note 4. i had a note 3 before i got the s5 and gave the n3 to my brother.
very often do i almost feel like trading him phones but the better camera and added water and dust resistance keep me from doing it. the note 4 is supposed to offer water and dust resistance, a better screen, and a better camera. (among other great things like more ram than the s5 and a better processor)
i miss stable asop roms, the s-pen, and the size of the screen of the note3. but i hope dev support for the note 4 will be just as strong as the note 3 and s5 has been.

I think I will buy. But will wait some time to see if there be any bugs. I'll let people to test it for me )). And then i'll decide what to do. But I agree that Note line is true flagship phone.

Yep, just got the S5 as a temporary phone, sold my Note 2 and will go for the Note 4 as soon it's released, actually, the Battery of my 2 year old Note 2 lasted longer then the S5 (8+ hours actual screen on time) and I really miss the bigger display. So yes I will go for the Note4 for sure

S5 is Really bad for aosp, i think never buy Samsung anymore.

Most def getting the note 4!!

Verizon has S8 and S8 plus on display

Went to play with them. I still think the note series is nicer. they both feel too small to me.
The weird thing about them is that its not really fair to call them 5.8 and 6.2 inches (even though mathematically correct). really they should be called WIDE 5.3 and 5.5 inch screens. i mean, if it was stretched to 10 inches yet only once inch tall, it would be an 11 inch screen, but that wouldnt make it a better viewing experience.
They just feel like iterative changes to the s7.
Camera is good, but pixel still better IMHO.
the worst thing, by far, IMHO is the single firing speaker. I have always had notes, but after the last fiasco went through every device on the market and especially loved the mate 9 and iphone 7 plus (sorry to all here). Once you have stereo speakers you cant go back. thats now become a must have for me. I hope they add to the Note 8.
I wanted to get a new device. Now I dont know what to do!!!

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The weird thing about them is that its not really fair to call them 5.8 and 6.2 inches (even though mathematically correct). really they should be called WIDE 5.3 and 5.5 inch screens. i mean, if it was stretched to 10 inches yet only once inch tall, it would be an 11 inch screen, but that wouldnt make it a better viewing experience.
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For the Plus I'm looking at the extra screen real estate as a bonus. I've got a screen the same width as my long dead Note7 but extra screen length which is good for reading and other scrolling type content. In landscape you get extra width. It is 100% beneficial when you have two apps open at the same time which I do frequently. So nothing lost over my 5.7" Note7 and something gained.
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They just feel like iterative changes to the s7.
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People on the Note7 forum made the S7 Edge appear to be a Model T in comparison when deciding on a Note7 alternative. If the Note7 wasn't perceived as iterative to the S7-Series how can the S8 be? At the end of the day whether Samsung or someone else what's left to do to a rectangular glass-fronted slab that's new and novel? As evolutions go the S8's are far more different based on their lack of bezels and their edge displays. Huawei is doing edge screens and LG is doing bezel-less. Soon there will be multiple bezel-less edge screened phones. Then what? I guess that's why Samsung's working on foldable.
Camera is good, but pixel still better IMHO.
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Based on? Both the Exmor and ISOCELL sensors in the S8 are newer versions and it appears Samsung's done some major work on the underlying s/w. We'll see what that brings when more detailed comparisons to other current phones are published.
The worst thing, by far, IMHO is the single firing speaker.
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That's a use case thing. 90% of my speaker use is conference calls and dual speakers and sound enhancements hurt more than they help. My content playback is typically the occasional YouTube video imbedded in a news article or an ad. For serious content I have BT speakers ranging from the pocketable IconX to some pretty high end over the ear BT cans. The value of mobile speakers is very individual and a YMMV.

I thought they had dual/stereo speakers? Using the headset speaker as the 2nd speaker. That has been reported at many sites as a spec. If not, I am disappointed in not having dual speakers especially when it can easily be done with a software tweak.

Overall love

Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the Moto G7 Power, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the Moto G7 Power is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

I've only had my G7 Power for a couple of days now but I'm pretty happy with it so far. I'm coming from a Note 4 -> OnePlus 5 ->Note 4 (OP5 screen died). The lack of screen resolution hasn't bothered me much yet. I'm really a fan of the screen size, though. I miss the larger phablet form factor. I really needed the longer battery life because of my job(s). I bought a thick, tough-ish case for it already.
The only other phone that I've been considering since my OP5 died is whatever they come out with for the OP7 since I really like the idea of the under-screen fingerprint sensor since there are very few front-facing sensors these days. I don't really dig the location of the sensor on this phone. But overall, this is a great phone for what would probably be half the cost of what the OP7 will most likely cost.
I enjoy having the latest Android version on it. The fluidity from having a near stock Android experience is unparalleled.
The only feature that it's really missing is the NFC sensor. But I'm not majorly bothered by it because I almost never used Android Pay.
Given how budget friendly this phone is but having some common modern smartphone features, I rate it 7.5/10. It's not for everybody, though. It's really only for people that value battery life over most other phone features

I'm coming from an LG V30. I bought the G7 Power for two reasons:. Superior battery and LTE band 71.
I am pleasantly surprised how nice the display is. Reading reviews you'd think it has a blurry and grainy screen. Honestly though, the screen is perfectly fine. Brightness is phenomenal and clarity is solid.
Battery life is the best you will find and having dual SIM capability and and an sdcard compensates for only 32GB of internal storage.
The size and shape of the phone makes for easy usage and the phone never seems excessively large.
The OS runs smoothly, no stuttering or lag is noticeable.
It's just a really solid phone, that combined with it's price makes it an unbelievable bargain.
The only people that should not consider this phone are hardcore gamers.
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MrCamby said:
I'm coming from an LG V30. I bought the G7 Power for two reasons:. Superior battery and LTE band 71.
I am pleasantly surprised how nice the display is. Reading reviews you'd think it has a blurry and grainy screen. Honestly though, the screen is perfectly fine. Brightness is phenomenal and clarity is solid.
Battery life is the best you will find and having dual SIM capability and and an sdcard compensates for only 32GB of internal storage.
The size and shape of the phone makes for easy usage and the phone never seems excessively large.
The OS runs smoothly, no stuttering or lag is noticeable.
It's just a really solid phone, that combined with it's price makes it an unbelievable bargain.
The only people that should not consider this phone are hardcore gamers.
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How's the camera? I have a Moto E5 Plus, considering switching to Metro for the G7 Power. Only thing I really don't like about my E5 Plus is the camera and it seems like it's the same one in the G7 Power. It's not terrible, you just have to have a ton of light and be close up to something.

Three pics, three separate camera apps:
GC - GCamera
SC - Stock Camera
OC - Open Camera
Overcast skies, no direct sun, early am.
I'd break it down better, but I'm turkey hunting right now.
GCamera
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Open Camera
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