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HTC hero no FM radio?!?!

I heard it doesnt have a FM receiver is that true if yes is there any way i could still receive radio signals?? I hope there is cause thats the only reason for me not buying it.

That is correct. No FM-radio in HTC Hero. That does not work in the subway anyway so I put my hopes up for a good webradio application.

i hated this about my iphone as well (currently have a hero coming) but it isn't that big of a deal because web radio works where ever you have a data signal; usually FM radio in buildings is ****e most of time due to signal quality.

If you download Beebplayer from the market you can "Listen Live" to BBC Radio 1,2,3 etc and also "Watch Live" BBC1, 2, News etc. Aslong as you're a TV License holder.

Web Radio is so much better than FM, you don't need headphones with you just to be able to play it. This is no biggie to me really, as said previously, reception is ****e.

web radio might have better reception but not all local fm stations are web based plus data signal quality and range may not always be strong. Besides having two options is always better than one.

using web radio will eat up your monthly data allowance more quickly then a fat kid eating a Big Mac

xinos said:
I heard it doesnt have a FM receiver is that true if yes is there any way i could still receive radio signals?? I hope there is cause thats the only reason for me not buying it.
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I do tatally agree with you! You are the first people that i's read on the web that has really the same mind than me!
jim_0068 said:
i hated this about my iphone as well (currently have a hero coming) but it isn't that big of a deal because web radio works where ever you have a data signal; usually FM radio in buildings is ****e most of time due to signal quality.
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I've got an Ipod Touch and really dislike the "Apple politic", so really need a change and thought HTC hero (with FM) would have made this difference! I don't consider web radio because of the web access and don t need a 3G connexion. FM should be basicly on any multimedia stuff!!!!

FM Receiver on all the HTC's I have used have always been poor reception anyway, so I never used it

hmm, just found saw this: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi
what chipset is mounted on the hero?
radio streaming cannot be compared to fm radio. it consumes way more battery and internet bandwidth..

Nexus one is the top model from HTC today...
Hero is based on qualcomm and like Magic does not have FM receiver, so only way is online radio...

Inovator said:
Nexus one is the top model from HTC today...
Hero is based on qualcomm and like Magic does not have FM receiver, so only way is online radio...
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...not completely true
On modern smartphones most FM receivers are integrated in the bluetooth chipset.
The Hero hardware uses BRF6350 chipset form TI, which in fact has a FM receiver subcircuit. FYI: the X1, a.k.a. HTC Kovsky, also uses this chipset and has FM radio function.
See here for more details about the chip:
http://focus.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/ti_bluelink_6_brf6350.pdf
These chips require some firmware to interact properly with the main CPU.
So without a proper firmware file activating the FM subset, there'll never be FM radio for Hero.
There might be also hardware parts missing to get this ever working....
P.S.: Nexus is also based on Qualcomm.
Best regards,
scholbert

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...not completely true
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ooooooooooooooooooooold thread there dude.
you should have noticed since they claimed nexus one was the best android phone LoL... it's been a while since that was true (not saying it isn't a great phone though).

dkelley said:
ooooooooooooooooooooold thread there dude.
you should have noticed since they claimed nexus one was the best android phone LoL... it's been a while since that was true (not saying it isn't a great phone though).
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Sure... i can read
Anyway old threads maybe filled with additional information.... at least for some even old information, is new information.
Regards,
scholbert

That may be true, but it's bumped a thread that's about 7 months old. And that's just annoying for many people.
Although its good information

and what about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13380058&highlight=hero# ?

Lutchezar said:
and what about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13380058&highlight=hero# ?
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nice one, thanks for sharing

Lutchezar said:
and what about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13380058&highlight=hero# ?
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And now we've bumped a thread over a year old, 2.5 years from original post...
This person in this post here claimed to have my app running OK on a cdma Hero, but then had some problem and disappeared : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18460535&postcount=1462
I don't know if the gsm version is the same.
AFAIK, the only issue is the audio routing. RSSI looked OK on good stations I think.
I'm here due to an email I received, but for further discussion, perhaps my thread is best: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22492334&postcount=2246

FM Radio - Hardware on the Vibrant?

I see the specs all over the Net for the T-Mobile Vibrant say there's an FM radio and that for the Samsung Galaxy S generally there's one too.
Is that accurate, is there FM radio hardware on the Vibrant? (I am not talking about software that provides Net FM radio, I am referring to the hardware radio.)
On the Touch Pro2 (TMOUS) it came without the FM radio app to use the hardware radio that was in fact on the phone. Is it the same with the Vibrant, where we simply need the FM radio app to activate the hardware radio?
Or does the Vibrant NOT have a hardware FM radio?
If the FM radio is on the motherboard, anyone know where to get the app or software to make it work?

I don't have much info for you, but a few of the reviews I remember watching on the net last week have said that the international version does indeed have a built in hardware FM tuner (you have to make sure to plug in headphones though, they act as your antenna). I even saw a demo of this app. I don't remember if this was on the international Galaxy S or the ATT Captivate.
So unless T-Mobile totally removed the hardware chip (I wouldn't say to be very likely) it should still be there. Hope this helps.

I don't know for sure but based 0on what I have read it seems like the Vibrant does have the hardware for a radio...and as of now there rumors that 2.2 will bring out the fm radio to its fullness but nothing has been confirmed as of yet.

Check tunein in the market no need for fm radio
Sent from the best phone from TMO... Vibrant

Check the think tank for this. It seems the Vibrant has the hardware as part of the GPS chip (correct me if I'm wrong). People are having a hard time getting it to work though. I'll try and find the link and post it.
I found the link, but i can't post it because i don't have rights.

stevja1 said:
Check the think tank for this. It seems the Vibrant has the hardware as part of the GPS chip (correct me if I'm wrong). People are having a hard time getting it to work though. I'll try and find the link and post it.
I found the link, but i can't post it because i don't have rights.
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Would be interesting if the GPS chip was a full software radio. Scan just about any frequency...

orells said:
Check tunein in the market no need for fm radio
Sent from the best phone from TMO... Vibrant
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Second that seems to work well for me.
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dattaway said:
Would be interesting if the GPS chip was a full software radio. Scan just about any frequency...
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Mobile HAM?

orells said:
Check tunein in the market no need for fm radio
Sent from the best phone from TMO... Vibrant
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True, but an FM radio would probably use less power.
Not a big deal for me since I have a tuner in my BT headset, but it would be cool if the Vibrant had one.
I thought people were trying to figure it out in the Dev board without much success.

Kubernetes said:
Mobile HAM?
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Yes. For the Atheros chipset on my wifi card, the Linux kernel has the complete source code. A few simple limit changes in the reg.c (if I remember correctly) lets me scan from nearly from 2.1 to 2.8 GHz. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to change the channel spacing, modulation type and all that.

is there a way to use to fm radio.apk from the i9000?

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Yes. For the Atheros chipset on my wifi card, the Linux kernel has the complete source code. A few simple limit changes in the reg.c (if I remember correctly) lets me scan from nearly from 2.1 to 2.8 GHz. Unfortunately, I haven't figured out how to change the channel spacing, modulation type and all that.
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hahaha. I gotta say, that would be a pretty stunning achievement if you could get that working.

I don't know really but 2 weeks ago I flashed Galaxy S i9000 Rom on my Vibrant and when I tried FM Radio first it gave me "Unable to switch on Radio" then I managed to switch it on but I only heard shshsshshshshshshs and when I shift the tuner to another band nothing happens !

The_wolf88 said:
I don't know really but 2 weeks ago I flashed Galaxy S i9000 Rom on my Vibrant and when I tried FM Radio first it gave me "Unable to switch on Radio" then I managed to switch it on but I only heard shshsshshshshshshs and when I shift the tuner to another band nothing happens !
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How did you manage to switch on the radio? Just wondering may be that will give some clue. Also could you confirm if it asked to plug in the head set before it produced static.
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rakeshchn said:
How did you manage to switch on the radio? Just wondering may be that will give some clue. Also could you confirm if it asked to plug in the head set before it produced static.
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Indeed, how were you able to turn this on? Though, I am more interested in the transmitting side of having an FM Radio built in, but receiving might be neat.

rakeshchn said:
How did you manage to switch on the radio? Just wondering may be that will give some clue. Also could you confirm if it asked to plug in the head set before it produced static.
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inverseflux said:
Indeed, how were you able to turn this on? Though, I am more interested in the transmitting side of having an FM Radio built in, but receiving might be neat.
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Actually I used a custom made update.zip file to enable Arabic support on my vibrant (which it's inherited from i9000 ROM) .. Anyway after applying the update.zip I saw FM Radio icon in application menu so I clicked it and it loaded and asked to connect the headphone to use it as antenna so I connected the antenna and that message disappear. Then I clicked on start Fm Radio and at the beginning a message appeared telling me cannot switch on FM Radio so I clicked it again and again and for the forth time it worked ! I started to hear the (shshshshshsh) sound but unfortunately changing the frequency didn't show me anything! Maybe because it can be used only in US and I'm from Bahrain so maybe that's why it doesn't work !

Is the bahranian vibrant different from the US version? When I load eugene's "froyo that does not brick", I get nothing (i.e. no static). Additionally, headphone logic is reversed, so I only get the "please connect headphones" message when they are already in.

Tune in
Tune-in I ve found to be the best and most reliable Also it uses very little power if you are on head phones

fearmonkey said:
Is the bahranian vibrant different from the US version? When I load eugene's "froyo that does not brick", I get nothing (i.e. no static). Additionally, headphone logic is reversed, so I only get the "please connect headphones" message when they are already in.
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Actually we have only Samsung Galaxy S i9000 in my country and it's very expensive for me which is cost around $720 for the 8GB so I ordred my Vibrant from US through ebay..

at what price did u purchased from ebay ????
i m also from bahrain and want to purchase it

How to access the internal FM radio

Does anyone know how to access the internal FM radio?

I installed the leaked connected music player and it has the option to use the fm radio.
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airbillion said:
I installed the leaked connected music player and it has the option to use the fm radio.
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I found the app but Astro File Manager would not let me install it.

airbillion said:
I installed the leaked connected music player and it has the option to use the fm radio.
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I tried that but the FM radio is not actually working is it?

clubtech said:
I tried that but the FM radio is not actually working is it?
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Nope, i've read on multiple places that Motorola has disabled the hardware that gives you the Radio feature and nobody has found a way to enable it through hardware mods.

as much i know u have to modify the mother board, last i check we do have fm receiver but antenna is not connected to the outer body or some thing and in order to to make it functional u have to do two things.
1. Modify ur mother board (connect the antenna)
2. Drivers for ur current operating system.

panflute said:
I found the app but Astro File Manager would not let me install it.
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Try install Tunein from Market.
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elvisrps said:
Try install Tunein from Market.
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I think he refers to FM Radio not INTERNET Radio like Tunein.

Kelvin0007 said:
I think he refers to FM Radio not INTERNET Radio like Tunein.
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sorry ... I did not notice this detail ... since the Atrix has no radio tuner, internet radio only

atrix use Broadcom BCM4329 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1, and FM Tuner. but motorola engineers didn't connect the fm tuner to mainboard! if you trust yourself, maybe you can do this?

http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
as you seen on the link, this module has fm recevier & transmitter! so maybe a braveheart can makes our atrix with radio enable

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http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
as you seen on the link, this module has fm recevier & transmitter! so maybe a braveheart can makes our atrix with radio enable
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It's also a BGA package chip so if that pin isn't connected then we're surely SOL.

The pin is not connected.You can refer to Spirit FM radio thread.It had been discussed.

This thread is named like a tutorial, when it's a question. That's no good.

i looked at the thread and learned that, Atrix will not play fm radio, NEVER :banghead:
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Moto's original release specs at CES before the phone was available said very clearly internal FM radio.
But the Broadcom spec says FM TX and RX, meaning the chip supports both FM reception AND TRANSMISSION and that could explain a lot. The FCC might have certified the phone as apporved for sale on the condition that it could not transmit in the FM commercial bands, and that might have meant knocking out all FM TX/RX as one feature set.
If that was true, Moto could have gained a lot of good will by simply saying "We couldn't get FCC approval for the FM radio, we tried."
So few companies get it: You play honest with the customers, they become fans. You play honest with the fans, they respect you. They become loyal to you because you've been loyal to them. And then the sales start going up and everyone becomes happy.
Now that Google owns MotoMobility...Ah Jeez, talk about the deaf leading the blind.
--Red

stewartsoda said:
It's also a BGA package chip so if that pin isn't connected then we're surely SOL.
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In theory if I reballing a broadcom chip again atrix it could be enable radio FM???

Rred said:
Moto's original release specs at CES before the phone was available said very clearly internal FM radio.
But the Broadcom spec says FM TX and RX, meaning the chip supports both FM reception AND TRANSMISSION and that could explain a lot. The FCC might have certified the phone as apporved for sale on the condition that it could not transmit in the FM commercial bands, and that might have meant knocking out all FM TX/RX as one feature set.
If that was true, Moto could have gained a lot of good will by simply saying "We couldn't get FCC approval for the FM radio, we tried."
So few companies get it: You play honest with the customers, they become fans. You play honest with the fans, they respect you. They become loyal to you because you've been loyal to them. And then the sales start going up and everyone becomes happy.
Now that Google owns MotoMobility...Ah Jeez, talk about the deaf leading the blind.
--Red
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Why FCC doesn't approve FM radio?what is the reason?
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Just use 4G or 3G and TuneIn radio; it uses very little data.

atrix4g18 said:
Just use 4G or 3G and TuneIn radio; it uses very little data.
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*facepalm* You mustn't have been reading the thread. If TuneIn filled every purpose, we wouldn't need FM radio.

nexus 4 and fm radio, will it support it? sadly no...

According to specs on play store there is no fm radio (analog).
so, like old nexus, google doesn't support this feature but...there will be a ready and cabled chip? i hope so...
If someone has or will have confirm, please write here

Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance

Looks like FM is going the way of IR
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Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance
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Looking at a few of the newer devices iPhone5, and the new Nokia Lumias, looks like the FM radio is dissapearing, like infrared a few years ago.
Guess there is not enough space for everything

jacklebott said:
Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance
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same story for lg optimus g. So, same hardware, same lack of fm tuner.
The only hope is hw ready and function disabled by sw. i don't think at this point.

What's FM Radio?

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What's FM Radio?
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Serriously? You have not herd a radio station?
You have a thanks button and don't know what to do with it? ...
Just press it

I think he was joking...

Sarcasm isn't interpreted very easily over the internet.

borich said:
According to specs on play store there is no fm radio (analog).
so, like old nexus, google doesn't support this feature but...there will be a ready and cabled chip? i hope so...
If someone has or will have confirm, please write here
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If it says it has no FM radio. THen it has no radio... simple

GR36 said:
If it says it has no FM radio. THen it has no radio... simple
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on nexus there isn't because google aim to increase cloud service in every way. For example, tune in is a better alternative than analog fm tuner in this scenario.
I want only know if they disabled by hw like samsung's nexus or by sw like nexus one.

Ever since I found the "tune in radio" app I haven't even cared if the hardware actually has FM hardware or not. streaming the same FM stations on this app doesnt even require headphones to be plugged in like most real FM solutions.
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tune in analog or digital radio is ireplacable!!!
radio is indepenant doesnt need internet to work.
while in sea you can receive radio probably not internet.
Any way
easily substituted by wired or bluetooth fm radio.
G

satiros said:
tune in analog or digital radio is ireplacable!!!
radio is indepenant doesnt need internet to work.
while in sea you can receive radio probably not internet.
Any way
easily substituted by wired or bluetooth fm radio.
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this is the point.

I wouldn't have issues with omitting it due to the cost. However, all recent ones have had a bluetooth chip with built in FM but with a disconnected antenna. Connecting the proper pin to the headphone jack can't cost that much.
The only reason I can see for this is to force people to use data due to carrier pressure or the radio tax in parts of Europe on devices capable of FM reception.
FM is much quicker than tunein radio. I have tunein radio pro and it finds stations hundreds of km's away as local but puts local ones as far away. It also takes time to buffer/etc and prevents you from scanning location stations quickly. So at best its a mediocre replacement.

They r doin away with FM radio Cuz u can't make money from it.. they got plenty of apps u can use. ex. "I heart radio, tune in " which they can make money off of data use....
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Looks like I'm going to whoosh through my data allowance with no FM radio, I listen to it all the time

FM analog radio is important for me. Streaming use internet connection and here, at my country, it is not cheap. I've got 350MB a month, so I have to look after data waste.
Silly question, ¿how many data use streaming fm?. ! hour listening to radio station = x MB.. What is,, not exactly but nearby, the amount of MB used???
Thanks.

+1 for having an FM radio.
Google re getting a daft as apple - Missing things off there devices - Being Vanilla doesn't make up for it.
Put an FM radio on FFS - Not that hard or costly

Does it come with a steam engine as well, because i need sh*t old tech.

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Does it come with a steam engine as well, because i need sh*t old tech.
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Radio isn't "Old Tech". Hundreds of millions of people listen to the radio in their cars every day. Its free music, it's the weather, it's the news, its entertainment, all without the use of a data plan.
It's not a deal breaker for me that the N4 doesn't have it, but its still a bit disappointing.
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FM Radio

I am interested in the G4 but am trying to find out if it has FM radio enabled. Does anybody know?

pottlepaul said:
I am interested in the G4 but am trying to find out if it has FM radio enabled. Does anybody know?
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The international models do, unknown if the US model will.

Mine came with the FM radio app installed and it works so...

US here. Works fine, uses the headphones to act as an antenna. You can even record stations.

US Amazon version here and FM app and work well.

It will even play through the speaker if you have an old earbud you can cut off to make a short antenna with.
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