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HTC hero no FM radio?!?!

I heard it doesnt have a FM receiver is that true if yes is there any way i could still receive radio signals?? I hope there is cause thats the only reason for me not buying it.

That is correct. No FM-radio in HTC Hero. That does not work in the subway anyway so I put my hopes up for a good webradio application.

i hated this about my iphone as well (currently have a hero coming) but it isn't that big of a deal because web radio works where ever you have a data signal; usually FM radio in buildings is ****e most of time due to signal quality.

If you download Beebplayer from the market you can "Listen Live" to BBC Radio 1,2,3 etc and also "Watch Live" BBC1, 2, News etc. Aslong as you're a TV License holder.

Web Radio is so much better than FM, you don't need headphones with you just to be able to play it. This is no biggie to me really, as said previously, reception is ****e.

web radio might have better reception but not all local fm stations are web based plus data signal quality and range may not always be strong. Besides having two options is always better than one.

using web radio will eat up your monthly data allowance more quickly then a fat kid eating a Big Mac

xinos said:
I heard it doesnt have a FM receiver is that true if yes is there any way i could still receive radio signals?? I hope there is cause thats the only reason for me not buying it.
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I do tatally agree with you! You are the first people that i's read on the web that has really the same mind than me!
jim_0068 said:
i hated this about my iphone as well (currently have a hero coming) but it isn't that big of a deal because web radio works where ever you have a data signal; usually FM radio in buildings is ****e most of time due to signal quality.
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I've got an Ipod Touch and really dislike the "Apple politic", so really need a change and thought HTC hero (with FM) would have made this difference! I don't consider web radio because of the web access and don t need a 3G connexion. FM should be basicly on any multimedia stuff!!!!

FM Receiver on all the HTC's I have used have always been poor reception anyway, so I never used it

hmm, just found saw this: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/06/nexus-one-teardown-reveals-possible-802-11n-radio-and-fm-transmi
what chipset is mounted on the hero?
radio streaming cannot be compared to fm radio. it consumes way more battery and internet bandwidth..

Nexus one is the top model from HTC today...
Hero is based on qualcomm and like Magic does not have FM receiver, so only way is online radio...

Inovator said:
Nexus one is the top model from HTC today...
Hero is based on qualcomm and like Magic does not have FM receiver, so only way is online radio...
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...not completely true
On modern smartphones most FM receivers are integrated in the bluetooth chipset.
The Hero hardware uses BRF6350 chipset form TI, which in fact has a FM receiver subcircuit. FYI: the X1, a.k.a. HTC Kovsky, also uses this chipset and has FM radio function.
See here for more details about the chip:
http://focus.ti.com/pdfs/wtbu/ti_bluelink_6_brf6350.pdf
These chips require some firmware to interact properly with the main CPU.
So without a proper firmware file activating the FM subset, there'll never be FM radio for Hero.
There might be also hardware parts missing to get this ever working....
P.S.: Nexus is also based on Qualcomm.
Best regards,
scholbert

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...not completely true
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ooooooooooooooooooooold thread there dude.
you should have noticed since they claimed nexus one was the best android phone LoL... it's been a while since that was true (not saying it isn't a great phone though).

dkelley said:
ooooooooooooooooooooold thread there dude.
you should have noticed since they claimed nexus one was the best android phone LoL... it's been a while since that was true (not saying it isn't a great phone though).
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Sure... i can read
Anyway old threads maybe filled with additional information.... at least for some even old information, is new information.
Regards,
scholbert

That may be true, but it's bumped a thread that's about 7 months old. And that's just annoying for many people.
Although its good information

and what about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13380058&highlight=hero# ?

Lutchezar said:
and what about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13380058&highlight=hero# ?
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nice one, thanks for sharing

Lutchezar said:
and what about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=13380058&highlight=hero# ?
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And now we've bumped a thread over a year old, 2.5 years from original post...
This person in this post here claimed to have my app running OK on a cdma Hero, but then had some problem and disappeared : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=18460535&postcount=1462
I don't know if the gsm version is the same.
AFAIK, the only issue is the audio routing. RSSI looked OK on good stations I think.
I'm here due to an email I received, but for further discussion, perhaps my thread is best: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22492334&postcount=2246

[Q] FM Radio??

Hey all,
I saw an article just now, where the Droid 2 was rooted and the Droid X's FM Radio app was installed, bringing glorious FM Radio to the D2.
It reminded me; isn't the Galaxy S supposed to a have an FM radio built in? Has anyone been able to get an FM Radio app installed and running?

BTownTKD said:
Hey all,
I saw an article just now, where the Droid 2 was rooted and the Droid X's FM Radio app was installed, bringing glorious FM Radio to the D2.
It reminded me; isn't the Galaxy S supposed to a have an FM radio built in? Has anyone been able to get an FM Radio app installed and running?
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It's physically not present. The FM radio on the the I9000 and other international variants of the Galaxy S used the Broadcom BCM20751 chip, which integrated BT/FM/GPS. This was replaced in the US versions with the BCM4751, which doesn't have FM.

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I'm not sure of the actual chip being used but after unlocking the secret menus as discussed in another thread there are settings for fm radio audio. logically thinking, if verizon and samsung built this phone to not have fm radio why would they waste time writing that code ???

kmoore416 said:
I'm not sure of the actual chip being used but after unlocking the secret menus as discussed in another thread there are settings for fm radio audio. logically thinking, if verizon and samsung built this phone to not have fm radio why would they waste time writing that code ???
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That's not logically thinking, that's wishful thinking..
The didn't write any additional code, they reused the existing code from the i9000, and then hid the options that were irrelevant, to keep from confusing people. You don't think they start from scratch for every Galaxy S device, do you?

Fm radio on any vzw phone is wishful thinking. Moto must have had to pull every string they had on the droid x to keep fm radio. Its possible on the droid 2, once you root (that's not an accident). In the past, vzw has even forced manufacturers to physically disable radio in the phone (htc). They can't track (and thus charge) your fm radio usage. So they try and force you to dump money into their worthless, overpriced v cast crap. And when tiered data plans get here, jackpot!
Vzw is a scheming, horrible excuse for a carrier. The ONLY redeeming factor is the network.
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Here are a few that I use search the market for them Iheartradio and Tune In Radio

namebrandon said:
It's physically not present. The FM radio on the the I9000 and other international variants of the Galaxy S used the Broadcom BCM20751 chip, which integrated BT/FM/GPS. This was replaced in the US versions with the BCM4751, which doesn't have FM.
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The BCM4751 is a dedicated GPS chip, which also is used on the I9000. There were early, erroneous reports that the internationa I9000 used the combo BCM20751 chip, but I believe they were debunked in threads about that phone here at xda.

kbcarroll said:
Fm radio on any vzw phone is wishful thinking. Moto must have had to pull every string they had on the droid x to keep fm radio. Its possible on the droid 2, once you root (that's not an accident). In the past, vzw has even forced manufacturers to physically disable radio in the phone (htc). They can't track (and thus charge) your fm radio usage. So they try and force you to dump money into their worthless, overpriced v cast crap. And when tiered data plans get here, jackpot!
Vzw is a scheming, horrible excuse for a carrier. The ONLY redeeming factor is the network.
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Umm... seriously? Just take one look in the Android Market and you'll find probably hundreds of radio apps. Just because this phone doesn't have a physical FM tuner in it doesn't mean that Verizon's scamming everyone.

That's just one benefit of android being open.
And why would a carrier ask a manufacturer to physically disable fm radio on a phone that had fm radio on all other carriers (ex. touch pro2)? Why would they disable fm radio in the droid 2 when it has the same hardware and rom as the droid x?
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kbcarroll said:
Fm radio on any vzw phone is wishful thinking. Moto must have had to pull every string they had on the droid x to keep fm radio. Its possible on the droid 2, once you root (that's not an accident). In the past, vzw has even forced manufacturers to physically disable radio in the phone (htc). They can't track (and thus charge) your fm radio usage. So they try and force you to dump money into their worthless, overpriced v cast crap. And when tiered data plans get here, jackpot!
Vzw is a scheming, horrible excuse for a carrier. The ONLY redeeming factor is the network.
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App
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The LG Chocolate Touch is a 3G Multimedia phone with a built in FM radio....
There was a couple of phones that are now retired that had FM radio's as well.
Maybe you should do your research before you start spouting incorrect information....

The Incredible also has an FM radio.

Ah yes, good call. Forgot about that one.
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chrisblanks said:
Here are a few that I use search the market for them Iheartradio and Tune In Radio
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing the Tune in radio app! My iheartradio took a dump after the last update but tune in is WAY BETTER! I was a devoted iheartradio listener but those days are over! Can the church say Amen!
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How to access the internal FM radio

Does anyone know how to access the internal FM radio?

I installed the leaked connected music player and it has the option to use the fm radio.
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airbillion said:
I installed the leaked connected music player and it has the option to use the fm radio.
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I found the app but Astro File Manager would not let me install it.

airbillion said:
I installed the leaked connected music player and it has the option to use the fm radio.
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I tried that but the FM radio is not actually working is it?

clubtech said:
I tried that but the FM radio is not actually working is it?
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Nope, i've read on multiple places that Motorola has disabled the hardware that gives you the Radio feature and nobody has found a way to enable it through hardware mods.

as much i know u have to modify the mother board, last i check we do have fm receiver but antenna is not connected to the outer body or some thing and in order to to make it functional u have to do two things.
1. Modify ur mother board (connect the antenna)
2. Drivers for ur current operating system.

panflute said:
I found the app but Astro File Manager would not let me install it.
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Try install Tunein from Market.
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elvisrps said:
Try install Tunein from Market.
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I think he refers to FM Radio not INTERNET Radio like Tunein.

Kelvin0007 said:
I think he refers to FM Radio not INTERNET Radio like Tunein.
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sorry ... I did not notice this detail ... since the Atrix has no radio tuner, internet radio only

atrix use Broadcom BCM4329 802.11n Wi-Fi, Bluetooth 2.1, and FM Tuner. but motorola engineers didn't connect the fm tuner to mainboard! if you trust yourself, maybe you can do this?

http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
as you seen on the link, this module has fm recevier & transmitter! so maybe a braveheart can makes our atrix with radio enable

gokhansouth said:
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
as you seen on the link, this module has fm recevier & transmitter! so maybe a braveheart can makes our atrix with radio enable
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It's also a BGA package chip so if that pin isn't connected then we're surely SOL.

The pin is not connected.You can refer to Spirit FM radio thread.It had been discussed.

This thread is named like a tutorial, when it's a question. That's no good.

i looked at the thread and learned that, Atrix will not play fm radio, NEVER :banghead:
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Moto's original release specs at CES before the phone was available said very clearly internal FM radio.
But the Broadcom spec says FM TX and RX, meaning the chip supports both FM reception AND TRANSMISSION and that could explain a lot. The FCC might have certified the phone as apporved for sale on the condition that it could not transmit in the FM commercial bands, and that might have meant knocking out all FM TX/RX as one feature set.
If that was true, Moto could have gained a lot of good will by simply saying "We couldn't get FCC approval for the FM radio, we tried."
So few companies get it: You play honest with the customers, they become fans. You play honest with the fans, they respect you. They become loyal to you because you've been loyal to them. And then the sales start going up and everyone becomes happy.
Now that Google owns MotoMobility...Ah Jeez, talk about the deaf leading the blind.
--Red

stewartsoda said:
It's also a BGA package chip so if that pin isn't connected then we're surely SOL.
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In theory if I reballing a broadcom chip again atrix it could be enable radio FM???

Rred said:
Moto's original release specs at CES before the phone was available said very clearly internal FM radio.
But the Broadcom spec says FM TX and RX, meaning the chip supports both FM reception AND TRANSMISSION and that could explain a lot. The FCC might have certified the phone as apporved for sale on the condition that it could not transmit in the FM commercial bands, and that might have meant knocking out all FM TX/RX as one feature set.
If that was true, Moto could have gained a lot of good will by simply saying "We couldn't get FCC approval for the FM radio, we tried."
So few companies get it: You play honest with the customers, they become fans. You play honest with the fans, they respect you. They become loyal to you because you've been loyal to them. And then the sales start going up and everyone becomes happy.
Now that Google owns MotoMobility...Ah Jeez, talk about the deaf leading the blind.
--Red
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Why FCC doesn't approve FM radio?what is the reason?
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Just use 4G or 3G and TuneIn radio; it uses very little data.

atrix4g18 said:
Just use 4G or 3G and TuneIn radio; it uses very little data.
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*facepalm* You mustn't have been reading the thread. If TuneIn filled every purpose, we wouldn't need FM radio.

nexus 4 and fm radio, will it support it? sadly no...

According to specs on play store there is no fm radio (analog).
so, like old nexus, google doesn't support this feature but...there will be a ready and cabled chip? i hope so...
If someone has or will have confirm, please write here

Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance

Looks like FM is going the way of IR
jacklebott said:
Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance
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Looking at a few of the newer devices iPhone5, and the new Nokia Lumias, looks like the FM radio is dissapearing, like infrared a few years ago.
Guess there is not enough space for everything

jacklebott said:
Pretty sure they disable FM at a hardware level. Aka no chance
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same story for lg optimus g. So, same hardware, same lack of fm tuner.
The only hope is hw ready and function disabled by sw. i don't think at this point.

What's FM Radio?

CJHolderUK said:
What's FM Radio?
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Serriously? You have not herd a radio station?
You have a thanks button and don't know what to do with it? ...
Just press it

I think he was joking...

Sarcasm isn't interpreted very easily over the internet.

borich said:
According to specs on play store there is no fm radio (analog).
so, like old nexus, google doesn't support this feature but...there will be a ready and cabled chip? i hope so...
If someone has or will have confirm, please write here
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If it says it has no FM radio. THen it has no radio... simple

GR36 said:
If it says it has no FM radio. THen it has no radio... simple
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on nexus there isn't because google aim to increase cloud service in every way. For example, tune in is a better alternative than analog fm tuner in this scenario.
I want only know if they disabled by hw like samsung's nexus or by sw like nexus one.

Ever since I found the "tune in radio" app I haven't even cared if the hardware actually has FM hardware or not. streaming the same FM stations on this app doesnt even require headphones to be plugged in like most real FM solutions.
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tune in analog or digital radio is ireplacable!!!
radio is indepenant doesnt need internet to work.
while in sea you can receive radio probably not internet.
Any way
easily substituted by wired or bluetooth fm radio.
G

satiros said:
tune in analog or digital radio is ireplacable!!!
radio is indepenant doesnt need internet to work.
while in sea you can receive radio probably not internet.
Any way
easily substituted by wired or bluetooth fm radio.
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this is the point.

I wouldn't have issues with omitting it due to the cost. However, all recent ones have had a bluetooth chip with built in FM but with a disconnected antenna. Connecting the proper pin to the headphone jack can't cost that much.
The only reason I can see for this is to force people to use data due to carrier pressure or the radio tax in parts of Europe on devices capable of FM reception.
FM is much quicker than tunein radio. I have tunein radio pro and it finds stations hundreds of km's away as local but puts local ones as far away. It also takes time to buffer/etc and prevents you from scanning location stations quickly. So at best its a mediocre replacement.

They r doin away with FM radio Cuz u can't make money from it.. they got plenty of apps u can use. ex. "I heart radio, tune in " which they can make money off of data use....
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Looks like I'm going to whoosh through my data allowance with no FM radio, I listen to it all the time

FM analog radio is important for me. Streaming use internet connection and here, at my country, it is not cheap. I've got 350MB a month, so I have to look after data waste.
Silly question, ¿how many data use streaming fm?. ! hour listening to radio station = x MB.. What is,, not exactly but nearby, the amount of MB used???
Thanks.

+1 for having an FM radio.
Google re getting a daft as apple - Missing things off there devices - Being Vanilla doesn't make up for it.
Put an FM radio on FFS - Not that hard or costly

Does it come with a steam engine as well, because i need sh*t old tech.

krewcal13 said:
Does it come with a steam engine as well, because i need sh*t old tech.
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Radio isn't "Old Tech". Hundreds of millions of people listen to the radio in their cars every day. Its free music, it's the weather, it's the news, its entertainment, all without the use of a data plan.
It's not a deal breaker for me that the N4 doesn't have it, but its still a bit disappointing.
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Can anybody actually check for fm radio support?

Using spirit fm perhaps?
I know this has been posted before, but but nobody really bothers paying attention
So, someone with a N4, does spirit fm work at all?
Thanks in advance
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Spirit FM Lite is a no go. Here is the error I got upon firing it up.
Error: No FM accessible
SU:1 Fm:?? Su:0 Bt:3 Ht:0 Mo:UNK
Not sure if the N4 has an FM chip or not.

kchino said:
Spirit FM Lite is a no go. Here is the error I got upon firing it up.
Error: No FM accessible
SU:1 Fm:?? Su:0 Bt:3 Ht:0 Mo:UNK
Not sure if the N4 has an FM chip or not.
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Thank you
Things aren't looking too good for the Fm crowd sadly

I think Spirit FM's developer wanted people to post an in-app log to him from the N4, to see if he can tell if we'll ever get FM working (because stock FW was never likely to work in the first place)

http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-one-x/6363151?seq=54
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33484621&highlight=atheros#post33484621
Both the nexus 4 and US htc one x use the same wireless chip. And the latter has FM radio support, so, I doubt we can't have it too. It might be matter of someone developing a kernel and/or ROM with it.

fastdan said:
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-one-x/6363151?seq=54
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33484621&highlight=atheros#post33484621
Both the nexus 4 and US htc one x use the same wireless chip. And the latter has FM radio support, so, I doubt we can't have it too. It might be matter of someone developing a kernel and/or ROM with it.
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There was a massive thread on it somewhere here in Q&A, and the developer of spirit even chimed in. Someone compiled a kernel with ask the right drivers, and when everything was said and done, they arrived at the conclusion that FM Radio is crippled on the N4, just as it is on the GN.
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fastdan said:
http://www.techrepublic.com/photos/cracking-open-the-htc-one-x/6363151?seq=54
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Both the nexus 4 and US htc one x use the same wireless chip. And the latter has FM radio support, so, I doubt we can't have it too. It might be matter of someone developing a kernel and/or ROM with it.
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Just because it uses the same chip, doesn't mean they can't still disable it at a hardware level