Hello,
I just read that, along with the G6+, LG will deliver an update for the regular G6 which will enable a new "Lower Power Consumption" mode which is something I am very interested in. Does it really increase battery life for the G6 significantly (which would make me really consider buying it) ? I wonder if anyone has experience with this ?
Thanks !
Am I the only pissed that I spent $400+ on a phone 3 months ago and its already outdated. **** LG such Bull****.
lg3FTW said:
Am I the only pissed that I spent $400+ on a phone 3 months ago and its already outdated. **** LG such Bull****.
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Who says it's outdated?
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Juice3250 said:
Who says it's outdated?
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The new one has ALL 3 things. Quad dac, wireless charging and 128gb. And more ram. Therfore the OG G6 is outdated
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The new one has ALL 3 things. Quad dac, wireless charging and 128gb. And more ram. Therfore the OG G6 is outdated
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But the new has no big difference and a bigger price ^^
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But the new has no big difference and a bigger price ^^
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It's a decent difference especially the 6gb of ram. When it comes to multi tasking.And with promotions from carriers it will barely be more. Let alone they come with ear phones not a crappy Google home.
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Am I the only pissed that I spent $400+ on a phone 3 months ago and its already outdated. **** LG such Bull****.
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This is like saying people who bought the Galaxy S8 should be pissed about the Note 8 when it's released in August. There's always going to be the next bigger, better thing man. That's how tech is. Just be happy LG is going to release the software update to the regular G6
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It's a decent difference especially the 6gb of ram. When it comes to multi tasking.And with promotions from carriers it will barely be more. Let alone they come with ear phones not a crappy Google home.
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Chances are very slim if this plus model will ever be sold out side korea.
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Cst79 said:
Hello,
I just read that, along with the G6+, LG will deliver an update for the regular G6 which will enable a new "Lower Power Consumption" mode which is something I am very interested in. Does it really increase battery life for the G6 significantly (which would make me really consider buying it) ? I wonder if anyone has experience with this ?
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I hope it is some kind of tool to control apps running in the background by itself. I find the app power monitor tool in Samsung devices really useful.
vintagerock said:
This is like saying people who bought the Galaxy S8 should be pissed about the Note 8 when it's released in August. There's always going to be the next bigger, better thing man. That's how tech is. Just be happy LG is going to release the software update to the regular G6
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Wrong that's the note 8 we new it was coming. As well as the v30. But 3 months ago no one expected to already be outdated. Opinions vary but trust me I love my phone would love it more with the + features mostly the ram. I use multiple window a lot. With ram heavy apps.
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As far as power save mode. I guess it's like greenifu. Hopefully like Samsung power saving mode
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Wrong that's the note 8 we new it was coming. As well as the v30. But 3 months ago no one expected to already be outdated. Opinions vary but trust me I love my phone would love it more with the + features mostly the ram. I use multiple window a lot. With ram heavy apps.
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As far as power save mode. I guess it's like greenifu. Hopefully like Samsung power saving mode
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All I'm saying is that what happens when you buy tech right when it comes out. You can always wait 4 months and get it cheaper or get the next big thing.
And I think greenify is ****. I used it for awhile and saw only marginal improvement and it makes the screen flash when you turn it off while it hibernates everything and to me that was super annoying.
vintagerock said:
All I'm saying is that what happens when you buy tech right when it comes out. You can always wait 4 months and get it cheaper or get the next big thing.
And I think greenify is ****. I used it for awhile and saw only marginal improvement and it makes the screen flash when you turn it off while it hibernates everything and to me that was super annoying.
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True 100% but I already got good deal on my phone but don't want to upgrade again. The g7 will be OLED so I'll just wait. I never use greenify. I never have battery issues and with qc. Who even cares IMO truly. Turning of data is IMO the best way to save battery.
lg3FTW said:
It's a decent difference especially the 6gb of ram. When it comes to multi tasking.And with promotions from carriers it will barely be more. Let alone they come with ear phones not a crappy Google home.
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G6+ will keep the actual 4GB... For me, it's just a little update. Not worthy
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G6+ will keep the actual 4GB... For me, it's just a little update. Not worthy
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Sorry bro it's not. It's getting 6gb of ram
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It's a decent difference especially the 6gb of ram. When it comes to multi tasking.And with promotions from carriers it will barely be more. Let alone they come with ear phones not a crappy Google home.
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Sorry bro it's not. It's getting 6gb of ram
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"Aside from the bump in storage, the LG G6+ has the same specs as the standard variant, including a 5.7-inch QHD+ display, Snapdragon 821, 4GB of RAM, microSD slot, dual 13MP cameras at the back, 5MP front shooter, Wi-Fi ac, Bluetooth 4.2, NFC, USB-C, and a 3300mAh battery with Quick Charge 3.0 and Qi wireless charging. LG is also bundling a pair of B&O Play earphones that are designed to take full advantage of the 32-bit Quad DAC."
https://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g6-plus-128gb-storage-new-colors-now-official-korea
"The LG G6+ doubles the internal storage to 128GB, but the RAM remains at 4GB. LG also brought Qi wireless charging to the Plus model."
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_launches_the_g6_with_128gb_storage_qi_wireless_charging-news-25651.php
I'll prefer wait for an official answer from LG. Anyway, i came from an OP3, and memory is not a problem yet with LG G6
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Turning of data is IMO the best way to save battery.
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Turning off the phone is an even better way to save battery !
Seriously, do you listen to yourself ? Why do people buy "SMARTphones" ? Why do people buy FLAGSHIPS ? To save battery by disconnecting them from the Internet ? A Nokia 100 would have been much cheaper for you. I need my flagship smartphone to do business, to be connected, to be notified, to respond in real time.
They need to fix the network switching in low signals area. If I don't force LTE only network keep switching trough 2g-3g-4g. This continuous switching causes battery drain and heating.
Hope that will fix this.
Could they have found a way to fix the high percentage of phone idle? It would be great
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Turning off the phone is an even better way to save battery !
Seriously, do you listen to yourself ? Why do people buy "SMARTphones" ? Why do people buy FLAGSHIPS ? To save battery by disconnecting them from the Internet ? A Nokia 100 would have been much cheaper for you. I need my flagship smartphone to do business, to be connected, to be notified, to respond in real time.
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Because when I'm at work and I can't have my phone on me it has to be locked in my locker. I don't need it sitting their constantly updating everything. I could restrict background data on all apps I guess. Or if once I take my lunch or break I switch data back on. Bam get all my emails and FB,SC, or whatever updates right than. Or say I'm at the movie theater I don't need data on so might as well switch it off. It may be extra 5% saved over a 2 hour movie but still it all adds up right. So yes I listen to myself bit truly I have ZERO issue with my battery. We but flagships for performance and or features, does that mean we instantly have to sacrifice battery life for it? The droid ultra MAXX was sadly a decently bad phone but the battery life was amazing. LG also makes X-power phone with a monster battery and decent specs too. All phones have trade offs but still not everyone can "respond in real time" so therefore data can be shut off
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Killua96 said:
They need to fix the network switching in low signals area. If I don't force LTE only network keep switching trough 2g-3g-4g. This continuous switching causes battery drain and heating.
Hope that will fix this.
Could they have found a way to fix the high percentage of phone idle? It would be great
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I've heard many people do a factory reset and solve that idle issue. I don't have it so I can't say 100% I will test my phone tomorrow from full to 20% and see what the results are
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I've heard many people do a factory reset and solve that idle issue. I don't have it so I can't say 100% I will test my phone tomorrow from full to 20% and see what the results are
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Strange, I've heard no one who solved this =(
Even users that reach 6-7 sot have as second voice the phone idle, which was a serious problem on G5 too on both marshmallow and nougat.
Btw already tried to disable Qmemo+ as someone suggested, made clean installation of 10F firmware and a second reset after nothing worked.
I'm pretty sure that is a LG problem since a guy who works with me in the same place with the same operator didn't have any problems with the S7Edge before and the S8+ now. That's why I hope for a fix xD
Killua96 said:
Strange, I've heard no one who solved this =(
Even users that reach 6-7 sot have as second voice the phone idle, which was a serious problem on G5 too on both marshmallow and nougat.
Btw already tried to disable Qmemo+ as someone suggested, made clean installation of 10F firmware and a second reset after nothing worked.
I'm pretty sure that is a LG problem since a guy who works with me in the same place with the same operator didn't have any problems with the S7Edge before and the S8+ now. That's why I hope for a fix xD
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Will test and post screenshot of my results
Killua96 said:
Strange, I've heard no one who solved this =(
Even users that reach 6-7 sot have as second voice the phone idle, which was a serious problem on G5 too on both marshmallow and nougat.
Btw already tried to disable Qmemo+ as someone suggested, made clean installation of 10F firmware and a second reset after nothing worked.
I'm pretty sure that is a LG problem since a guy who works with me in the same place with the same operator didn't have any problems with the S7Edge before and the S8+ now. That's why I hope for a fix xD
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Couldn't get phone any lower heading to bed gotta plug in. Here's what I got. Basically seems that phone isle uses right around 1% an hour and truly I don't see that as a problem at all.
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I bought the 32gb, 3gb ram version from Amazon DE. I watched a lot of review sites and they generally praised the phone and said the performance was good. Here my initial thoughts:
-- the screen is too warm and makes everything look dull when compared to LG G2
-- Performance is very poor compared to the LG G2, G2 is snappy in comparison
-- animations, scrolling etc are running at 10-15fps or it seems. Compared to the LG G2, its buttery on the G2. Im a sucker for smooth animations
-- launching app - for some reasons there is a noticeable delay - that was rare on the G2
-- battery poor compared to the LG G2
-- games suffer from low frame rates compared to the LG G2.
-- youtube chrome cast bug - not a problem on G2 - means I'm unable to use me chromecast now. Bugger..
-- and the phone gets too hot..
-- hissing when using AUX output in car.
Antutu show the G3 as having lower performance them the G2.
I sold my G2 and feel like have just been robbed by LG. Yes, i loved the G2 and was expecting more of the same.
All this at the cost of having a quad hd screen - a marketing spec stunt, processor is marginally better then G2 on paper and GPU is the same as the G2. In real terms a massive step backwards in almost all regards.
I feel ****...
I have to agree in part.
I love this phone but it is clear that there are some steps backward.
The battery and slickness are my two main concerns.
However I LOVE the camera which is a substantial improvement.
I love the screen at 100% but it only takes about 3mins use before this gets throttled to 90%
The removable battery is a great idea in theory but I cannot find anywhere to buy a spare so what's the point?
The sd card is important to me and is probably the main reason I upgraded. If the G2 had a card slot I doubt I would have changed.
I am hoping many problems can be resolved in an update but I am getting the impression that LG are not the quickest with firmware updates - fingers crossed!
I have been reading too that it takes a week for the g3 to learn you use and battery life improves and I just hope the us models are better or they release a update to fix this issues
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I have had mine over a week now and sot has maybe improved from 2hrs to 2hrs 30mins. Not enough of an improvement. I really want sot to last at least 3hrs 30 mins to see me through a full day of my usage.
I have read that to disable the permissions for the McAfee App will give significant improvements. I have just done this tonight so I will report back tomorrow if there is any improvement.
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I have had mine over a week now and sot has maybe improved from 2hrs to 2hrs 30mins. Not enough of an improvement. I really want sot to last at least 3hrs 30 mins to see me through a full day of my usage.
I have read that to disable the permissions for the McAfee App will give significant improvements. I have just done this tonight so I will report back tomorrow if there is any improvement.
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How have you done this?
Settings - security - phone administrators
Then you can force stop in apps.
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Settings - security - phone administrators
Then you can force stop in apps.
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I cant do that. Mcafee is greyed out. Was your that as well?
It was greyed out until I unticked the permissions in security , then when I returned to the app I was able to force stop.
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How have you done this?
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my screen on time sits at nearly 4 hours, what are you doing?
LBTaylor1984 said:
my screen on time sits at nearly 4 hours, what are you doing?
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Nothing special, web browsing mainly. About 30 mins music. A bit of tweeting.
Screen set to 90% brightness.
WiFi and Bluetooth always on.
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I bought the 32gb, 3gb ram version from Amazon DE. I watched a lot of review sites and they generally praised the phone and said the performance was good. Here my initial thoughts:
-- the screen is too warm and makes everything look dull when compared to LG G2
-- Performance is very poor compared to the LG G2, G2 is snappy in comparison
-- animations, scrolling etc are running at 10-15fps or it seems. Compared to the LG G2, its buttery on the G2. Im a sucker for smooth animations
-- launching app - for some reasons there is a noticeable delay - that was rare on the G2
-- battery extremely poor compared to the LG G2
-- games suffer from low frame rates compared to the LG G2.
-- youtube chrome cast bug - not a problem on G2 - means I'm unable to use me chromecast now. Bugger..
-- and the phone gets too hot..
Antutu show the G3 as having lower performance them the G2.
I sold my G2 and feel like have just been robbed by LG. Yes, i loved the G2 and was expecting more of the same.
All this at the cost of having a quad hd screen - a marketing spec stunt, processor is marginally better then G2 on paper and GPU is the same as the G2. In real terms a massive step backwards in almost all regards.
I feel ****...
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The good news is, you can sell the G3 and buy two G2's to replace it.
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The good news is, you can sell the G3 and buy two G2's to replace it.
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Yup. That's for sure.
If its that bad download nomone and reduce the resolution. Personally i don't think its that bad, with a few tweaks and a custom launcher the phone is fine. I do think the S801 isn't really suitable for QHD though.
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Hopefully someone from LG will read it. This phone is the biggest shi..... I have ever had. It cannot be ompared to Lg G2- why i sold it!!!??? Now awaiting iPhone 6 then goodbye lg. They should fire every person who is responsible for this laggy brick!!!
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If its that bad download nomone and reduce the resolution. Personally i don't think its that bad, with a few tweaks and a custom launcher the phone is fine. I do think the S801 isn't really suitable for QHD though.
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You say that every single thread. We get it.
Anyways if you don't like the phone, return it.
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prfraczek said:
Hopefully someone from LG will read it. This phone is the biggest shi..... I have ever had. I can't compare to Lg G2- why i sold it!!!??? Now awaiting iPhone 6 then goodbye lg. They should fire every person who is responsible for this laggy brick!!!
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You obviously never had Samsung phones. Much worse.
prfraczek said:
Hopefully someone from LG will read it. This phone is the biggest shi..... I have ever had. It cannot be ompared to Lg G2- why i sold it!!!??? Now awaiting iPhone 6 then goodbye lg. They should fire every person who is responsible for this laggy brick!!!
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Now this, this is the type of compelling review that is sure to skew the masses from buying a G3. Just an all around well thought out, and worded review. Kudos!
I've had s3 few years ago... Yup u right both are useless.
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Btw yesterday i was setting up iphone 4- few years old with 'sluggish' ios 7 and this mobile is just flying campared to g3
Spewy1 said:
I have had mine over a week now and sot has maybe improved from 2hrs to 2hrs 30mins. Not enough of an improvement. I really want sot to last at least 3hrs 30 mins to see me through a full day of my usage.
I have read that to disable the permissions for the McAfee App will give significant improvements. I have just done this tonight so I will report back tomorrow if there is any improvement.
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My SOT in the first few days was over 5Hrs...
EDIT: I see you had brightness at 90%, I keep mine at 50% with auto on
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I've had s3 few years ago... Yup u right both are useless.
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Btw yesterday i was setting up iphone 4- few years old with 'sluggish' ios 7 and this mobile is just flying campared to g3
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The lag goes away using a third party launcher such as nova. The phone hardware is fantastic, it's the software that lets it down in some things. With iPhones it is the complete opposite
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You say that every single thread. We get it.
Anyways if you don't like the phone, return it.
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You obviously never had Samsung phones. Much worse.
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Yeah, I have said that a bit too much lol. I'll stop now.
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They have given us a phone that struggles to power the QHD screen. I played with the new Galaxy Tab yesterday and its the same,stutters and lags because of the crazy high resolution.
They have given us a phone that shutsdown I've no doubt because of component failure due to high temperatures and had the cheek to say its fixed with a reboot instead!
We get a phone with the old Xperia Z1 camera sensor rather than the new Z2 sensor.
In the UK we get a 2gb version so we get redraws all the time and apps shutting down in the background.
And what causes most of the of the problems?? A QHD screen which is barely any different to an HD screen is poorly calibrated and has a visible digitizer.
No amount of software updates will help this thing, most of the problems are hardware related.
Thanks LG,I'm now stuck with this pig phone for 2 years!
Updates and unlock bootloader will help us ...
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I somehow agree with you, good thing is, I returned my G3... ??
I only agree with the heat-issue, and thus I conclude, that it's very unprofessional of LG not to have applied any thermal-grease on the chipset. (From what I've read, there isn't any) hence this issue appears.
hate or love the qhd display now, in some months/years it will probably be standard on phones. And people will ask in that time,
"Hey which phone was the first to ship with qhd display? and did that go okay" you know looking back.
2gb vs 3gb performance is on pair.
Remember android o/s works wonder with 2 and 3 gb ram.
if you experience something sluggish on 2gb, chances are it's equally sluggish on 3gb
I experience only minor lag and it is not much just randomly.
I think the phone is great. Hey Moto X could root but wasn't permanent unless bootloader was unlocked or was able to see the write permission flag off so be happy with the root.
I feel people don't allow proper variance to smart phones.
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I'd agree with most of the original post except the digitizer which I really couldnt see.
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moblaw said:
I only agree with the heat-issue, and thus I conclude, that it's very unprofessional of LG not to have applied any thermal-grease on the chipset. (From what I've read, there isn't any) hence this issue appears.
hate or love the qhd display now, in some months/years it will probably be standard on phones. And people will ask in that time,
"Hey which phone was the first to ship with qhd display? and did that go okay" you know looking back.
2gb vs 3gb performance is on pair.
Remember android o/s works wonder with 2 and 3 gb ram.
if you experience something sluggish on 2gb, chances are it's equally sluggish on 3gb
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PS. The QHD display uses more RAM for video RAM 300mb HD Vs 600mb QHD so you need the extra RAM for QHD.
Lol at the G3 lagging. The Tab S lags because of Touchwiz.
Anything will have lag in it. Damn. Overheat issue... So no problems here with mine. Overall an awesome phone that does everything I want it to. Some of you guys expect holograms to pop out the phone lmao.
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Anything will have lag in it. Damn. Overheat issue... So no problems here with mine. Overall an awesome phone that does everything I want it to. Some of you guys expect holograms to pop out the phone lmao.
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Use the 1080 flagships for a week or so and you'll see the difference. The G3 is a slow pig because its underpowered for a QHD.Even the new S805 G3 review says that smooths out the lag and stutter issues.
I haven't had any issues as most people complain about. Lag or excessive heat. I haven't experience any issues as of yet and i've had my phone for 2 weeks now.
D855 3/32gb
Lags: nothing annoying or particularly noticeable for me. Definitely no worse than my S4.
Shutdowns: I haven't had one. Had the phone for about 3 weeks.
Camera: Honestly, I don't use the camera much so I can't say too much. But it had been good for me.
Screen: looks good to me and no visible digitizer. Although, I must admit that I can't help but think it would be a slightly better phone with 1080p.
Overall I'm very happy with the phone. I was expecting to send it back after a trial, going from a lot of comments from here.but I've found most of the stated problems are non existent for myself. Very good phone imo
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Lol at the G3 lagging. The Tab S lags because of Touchwiz.
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I haven't had any issues as most people complain about. Lag or excessive heat. I haven't experience any issues as of yet and i've had my phone for 2 weeks now.
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+1 on that. Had mine over a month now without a single issue.
This.
Are you sure that you people are not buying Chinese fake phones? I too have never experienced any lag, any heat (not more than any smartphone I've ever own and the s4 used to get really HOT) battery life around 6 hours SOT.
Jokes aside if you people are experiencing all these problems you should take your phone back for exchange or repair. It's definitely not normal.
To be honest it's the best android phone I've ever owned. I had the galaxy s, s3 and s4 .... I my original idea was to get the one plus one but it's impossible to get. After that one I don't think there's a better phone these days.
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digitallure said:
I haven't had any issues as most people complain about. Lag or excessive heat. I haven't experience any issues as of yet and i've had my phone for 2 weeks now.
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Same here. Always get these hate posts when new devices are released. Why don't people like the OP just return their devices? My G3 is fantastic and have had the Note 3 and M8.
It's funny watch people repeat like parrots that the 801/330 combo wasn't ready for qhd. Now the 805/440 is out and the benchmarks and performance is nearly identical to the 801/330. What now guys?
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It's funny watch people repeat like parrots that the 801/330 combo wasn't ready for qhd. Now the 805/440 is out and the benchmarks and performance is nearly identical to the 801/330. What now guys?
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To be honest,benchmarks don't mean much. The review I posted yesterday said after a week of use the 805 as smoother and faster than the 801 although battery was the same.
http://m.androidcentral.com/lg-g3-cat-6-snapdragon-805-review
I don't have any problems either on my G3 D855 32gb...
I don't experience those lags, screen problems and others...
We know it comes with QHD, we know the specs before buying it... I find it really funny that people complains about the QHD display after buying the G3, while they could have chosen to buy other phone without it.
I have many lags with my g3.
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This.
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Lmao....It's funny if the G3 came out months later people would ***** about that. It's always something...Maybe LG did rush the G3 out but all manufactures are doing it. I guess I'm really lucky with my G3...I really don't have any issues with it other then a little heat when I first got it since I never put it down. lol
Samsung desperately rushing Galaxy Note 4 to market before the iPhone 6 hits
http://bgr.com/2014/07/31/galaxy-note-4-release-date-2/
http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-battery-life-test-nothings-changed-since-the-G3_id68951
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Exactly what I posted hours ago on another thread. Hahaha.
It's cool though. This deserves it's own thread actually.
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Skip within the video to 13m:50sec and they pretty much say the same. The G4 does not beat the S6 at least at the moment of testing the pre production units. Hopefully they are still tweaking the OS to get the battery lasting longer.
https://youtu.be/62uub0cHGEM
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Does anyone know if the G3 batteries will work in the G4 or did they change them just enough to not allow compatibility?
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Does anyone know if the G3 batteries will work in the G4 or did they change them just enough to not allow compatibility?
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It can't, unfortunately.
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It can't, unfortunately.
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Dang. That's kind of lame considering they are both 3000mah.
I would understand if the new phone had a larger battery but since it doesn't it kind of seems like a move meant to make those of us that have extra G3 batteries buy even more new batts.
I'm not sure how the S6 could have better battery life, I had it for a week and it was worse than my G3. Horrible standby time. I was hoping the G4 would be better than the G3.
I also saw a post that the G3 battery has small tabs that prevent it from fitting into the G4.
LaTropa64 said:
Dang. That's kind of lame considering they are both 3000mah.
I would understand if the new phone had a larger battery but since it doesn't it kind of seems like a move meant to make those of us that have extra G3 batteries buy even more new batts.
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Makes sense since they want more money, so why make it cross-gen compatible? Don't think any phone has accessories or whatnot what work for more than the current generation of devices. It is lame since they have the same size battery, but that's how it is... sadly. :/
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Makes sense since they want more money, so why make it cross-gen compatible? Don't think any phone has accessories or whatnot what work for more than the current generation of devices. It is lame since they have the same size battery, but that's how it is... sadly. :/
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iPhone accessories last for two years, most of the time.
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I'm not sure how the S6 could have better battery life, I had it for a week and it was worse than my G3. Horrible standby time. I was hoping the G4 would be better than the G3.
I also saw a post that the G3 battery has small tabs that prevent it from fitting into the G4.
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It makes sense given the source. They are not known for their independent reviews. We also don't know their methodology. Their test involved some sort of video playback until the battery died. Given the AMOLED display in the S6 where energy use is proportion to the number of pixels being used and what color (white uses significantly more energy). So if the playback involved night time scenes the S6 would last longer where as if it was bright daytime scenes the G4 would last longer. Neither one would be a far comparison. I highly doubt their battery tests involved real world use given what people have truly been getting on the S6.
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Phone Arena's findings contradict what almost everyone else who has used the G4 has said about the battery life. I'll wait until the phone is officially out and GSMArena posts their review to get a more accurate view of the G4's battery life because they have a published methodology and their battery life database allows you to set custom usage patterns. It's not perfect, but it's better than PA's black box test results that inexplicably put the S6 edge's battery life over the G2.
Droid-Life Tim-O-Tato posted a comparison, but commented that the battery life is good, better than the S6.
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http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-battery-life-test-nothings-changed-since-the-G3_id68951
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We'll see if LG can improve this, but if the battery is comparable to the G3 that means it's noticeably worse than my G2 & not significantly better than even the Optimus G...
Edit: Checked the battery life of the S6 on xda & I'm seeing less than 4.5hrs of SOT for users. I wonder how much these newer phones would benefit from 1080P?
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I have no idea how the battery life on the G4 will be like, but I am not sure about phonearenas testing methods.
They have the iphone 6 plus @ 6.5 hrs and the S6 at over 7 hours.
The 6 plus has excellent battery life.. So I'm not sure how their testing works, but I dont think it always translates to real world use.
LaTropa64 said:
Dang. That's kind of lame considering they are both 3000mah.
I would understand if the new phone had a larger battery but since it doesn't it kind of seems like a move meant to make those of us that have extra G3 batteries buy even more new batts.
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Even the size appears similar, the connectors are different.
Here's an article giving us hope for the G4 battery life. Be sure to read the comments on the bottom of the link as well.
http://www.theguardian.com/technolo...phablets-available-impressive-camera#comments
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My battery has always been pretty good on my G3, I dont know whether I was just extremely lucky with the battery but I almost always get 10 - 14 hrs use.
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We'll see if LG can improve this, but if the battery is comparable to the G3 that means it's noticeably worse than my G2 & not significantly better than even the Optimus G...
Edit: Checked the battery life of the S6 on xda & I'm seeing less than 4.5hrs of SOT for users. I wonder how much these newer phones would benefit from 1080P?
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I consistently get 4-4.5+ SOT and get through a day easily. WiFi always on, and both wifi calling/volte off
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FluxionFluff said:
Makes sense since they want more money, so why make it cross-gen compatible? Don't think any phone has accessories or whatnot what work for more than the current generation of devices. It is lame since they have the same size battery, but that's how it is... sadly. :/
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You are correct in that it makes sense for them to make them non-compatible so as to make more money, but I still find it to be a rather mean spirited thing for a company to do. I wish that these companies would strive to satisfy the consumer COMPLETELY. They would be known for being a simply and easy-to-work-with company, and their sales would be terrific. Instead, they nickle and dime. But I suppose there's not much we can do about the matter. It is what it is.
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You are correct in that it makes sense for them to make them non-compatible so as to make more money, but I still find it to be a rather mean spirited thing for a company to do. I wish that these companies would strive to satisfy the consumer COMPLETELY. They would be known for being a simply and easy-to-work-with company, and their sales would be terrific. Instead, they nickle and dime. But I suppose there's not much we can do about the matter. It is what it is.
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The only thing that seems to be constant, least in recent years, is that everyone (besides Apple, as their ports have always been different from Android and probably Windows too) uses microUSB ports. How long that'll be the case, who knows? At some point, USB Type-C may become the new standard. Don't think I've seen any phones on the market use that. Only thing I've seen uses that is the new Macbook.
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The only thing that seems to be constant, least in recent years, is that everyone (besides Apple, as their ports have always been different from Android and probably Windows too) uses microUSB ports. How long that'll be the case, who knows? At some point, USB Type-C may become the new standard. Don't think I've seen any phones on the market use that. Only thing I've seen uses that is the new Macbook.
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I hope so. I'm kind of surprised none of the new flagships have it since the Chromebook Pixel and the new Macbook have it now.
One cable to rule them all. USB-C will be it... for awhile.
So, some background to my story.
I was saving up for an S8+ but had to use that money somewhere else. Need to a buy phone ASAP and looking at previous gen flagship.
I currently have a Redmi note 4 and I don't want another mediocre mid level phone. I really don't like the camera or the sound quality.
Now my budget isn't much. I can spare about $320.
I am getting an S7 (G930T) for $335 and a V20 (H918) for $300. (Both are brand new)
My only concern for the S7 is no development since it is snapdragon (Can't find a cheap Exynos). As for the V20, plenty of development but no future updates (S7 will get official Oreo).
I live in India and will be importing these devices through a family member. I've already looked at OnePlus and they aren't selling for cheap, both the 3T and 5.
All I'm looking for is a day's battery life, good camera and sound quality. Not much of a mobile gamer.
Basic needs are WhatsApp, Reddit, Snapchat, Instagram and YouTube. No Facebook.
Can I please get your opinions below?
V20 is getting Oreo sometime in the first quarter of 2018.
S7 doesn't have a removable battery, IR blaster nor is it certified shock resistant. Those were deal breakers for me. The V20 has more screen space. Very happy with my V20 & would recommend it.
I owned both phones ,the S7 and the V20 and let me tell you that the LG V20 wins in almost every aspect.
Byt the S7, trust me on this one.
I had the note 5 before the v20, and the note 5 was a far superior phone: better performance, less lag (way less lag, lg software is a joke), betetr battery life, better camera (especially in low light), better screen (amoleds are amazing), better software (again, lg software is a joke, the stock lg apps are made for android eclair compared to the polished samsung phone), better software support (i used to get an update every month on the note 5 to update me to the latest security patch, you would be lucky if you get an update every 3 months on the v20), way better roms and kernel support (you can't even properly root most of the v20 variants), and better day to day phone, I was alot happier with the Samsung and I regret buying the v20.
No one cares about removable battery (by the time you swapper batteries, rebooted, and waited 2 minutes for the software to finalize booting, fast charge would have gtten you 50%).
I never used the IR blaster.
And we all use cases, even if our phone is shock resistant.
Trust me on this one, get the s7, I wish I had the money to switch back,
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Oh an snapchat is a joke on the v20, ask everyone who uses it, I don't know why, maybe it's the dual camera system, but it was a far better experience on the note 5.
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Byt the S7, trust me on this one.
I had the note 5 before the v20, and the note 5 was a far superior phone: better performance, less lag (way less lag, lg software is a joke), betetr battery life, better camera (especially in low light), better screen (amoleds are amazing), better software (again, lg software is a joke, the stock lg apps are made for android eclair compared to the polished samsung phone), better software support (i used to get an update every month on the note 5 to update me to the latest security patch, you would be lucky if you get an update every 3 months on the v20), way better roms and kernel support (you can't even properly root most of the v20 variants), and better day to day phone, I was alot happier with the Samsung and I regret buying the v20.
No one cares about removable battery (by the time you swapper batteries, rebooted, and waited 2 minutes for the software to finalize booting, fast charge would have gtten you 50%).
I never used the IR blaster.
And we all use cases, even if our phone is shock resistant.
Trust me on this one, get the s7, I wish I had the money to switch back,
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Oh an snapchat is a joke on the v20, ask everyone who uses it, I don't know why, maybe it's the dual camera system, but it was a far better experience on the note 5.
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Hmm ?... I love my V20 and with a zerolemon battery this thing is a beast. I would recommend this device to anyone who is going to utilize the extra battery. If not then go I would recommend s7
Still_living714 said:
Hmm ?... I love my V20 and with a zerolemon battery this thing is a beast. I would recommend this device to anyone who is going to utilize the extra battery. If not then go I would recommend s7
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There are wireless charging battery cases for the s7, like this one for example: https://www.ebay.com/p/Samsung-Wire...for-Galaxy-S7-EP-TG930BBUGUS-Black/1864804731 .
I currently own both and the v20 every day any day noth even close lol.
guess ill elaborate why.
v20 is a cleaner look. Bigger screen so everything is easier to see and its on par with the AMOLED if not better. removable battery is a huge i always have one charging in the cradle charger at home. Also the built in DAC is amazing if you care about sound quality for headphones.
s7 is too small anymore and just doesnt bring anything to the table that is out of the ordinary. wireless charging and waterproofing are nice i guess.... but yeah.
I was curious to the same thing. Any AOSP ROMs for v20? I wanted to get a pixel first gen but they are 200 more than the v20 and I really dislike the looks of first gen pixels . They look like toy phones.
Xdevillived666 said:
I was curious to the same thing. Any AOSP ROMs for v20? I wanted to get a pixel first gen but they are 200 more than the v20 and I really dislike the looks of first gen pixels . They look like toy phones.
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There is a lineage os rom (sort of), but it doesn't support the second screen.
How about huwaei mate 9 ?
Get the v20, my sgse7 throttle like no tomorrow, you cant even record a long video because if the phone heats up it will shutdown the camera and every thing with a warning, until everything cools down, it is that retarded. I had the sgs7 and regreted every minute of it, it was always super slow because again of the retarded samsung throttle they placed to keep the device"cool". When i got my v20 the difference in performance was night and day, i can record all i want and the device stays super cool, 0 throttle and i can actually have twrp and custom roms. Most new samsung phones have DVFS, that thing is hell for us, it will make the device crawl.
Lebo-Wog said:
No one cares about removable battery (by the time you swapper batteries, rebooted, and waited 2 minutes for the software to finalize booting, fast charge would have gtten you 50%).
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Nonsense!
a replacable battery is a safety net for when you find you're out and a quick swap gets you back to 100. I carry mine in a wallet at all times. Yes i do go about with a replacable battery because unlike a lot of ignorant people i know what its for
a key feature of the v20 is the replacable battery, last of its kind unfortunately, that alone was enough to convince me. This btw is the third phone in a row i have with replacable batteries
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ishanbhatnagr96 said:
I currently have a Redmi note 4 and I don't want another mediocre mid level phone. I really don't like the camera or the sound quality.
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How much SOT you get with that on wifi only ?
The RN3 was very good with battery 9h SOT (snapdragon), is this the expectation you have when you say all day battery if you will be on data all day
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How much SOT you get with that on wifi only ?
The RN3 was very good with battery 9h SOT (snapdragon), is this the expectation you have when you say all day battery if you will be on data all day
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I usually get around 10Hours. This is with 2 Sims.
On an average day about 8-9 hours. Sometimes even touches 12 hours.
ishanbhatnagr96 said:
I usually get around 10Hours. This is with 2 Sims.
On an average day about 8-9 hours. Sometimes even touches 12 hours.
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I am referring to screen on time not runtime
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I am referring to screen on time not runtime
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I'm telling you the screen on time only lol
See the average per cycle.
ishanbhatnagr96 said:
I'm telling you the screen on time only lol
See the average per cycle.
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Says the average SOT is 9h46 with a max of 2h13 (?) (that look right to you)
Question is how much SOT are you expecting for a days use on the v20?
One Twelve said:
Says the average SOT is 9h46 with a max of 2h13 (?) (that look right to you)
Question is how much SOT are you expecting for a days use on the v20?
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Those readings say 17 hours on uptime and 9 hours of SOT.
From the V20 I don't expect much. I've had a G3 in the past and it barely gave me 3-4 Hours of sot in a full day
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My only concern for the S7 is no development since it is snapdragon (Can't find a cheap Exynos). As for the V20, plenty of development but no future updates (S7 will get official Oreo).
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It's so strange to read the S7 snapdragon won't receive any development. It always was that snapdragons were the easiest to develop for because qualcom released sources unlike Samsung with exynos. So exynos could only get stock roms
I live in India and will be importing these devices through a family member. I've already looked at OnePlus and they aren't selling for cheap, both the 3T and 5.
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Band 40 support for 4G is there on t-mo phones ?
Don't know what Jio uses
One Twelve said:
It's so strange to read the S7 snapdragon won't receive any development. It always was that snapdragons were the easiest to develop for because qualcom released sources unlike Samsung with exynos. So exynos could only get stock roms
Band 40 support for 4G is there on t-mo phones ?
Don't know what Jio uses
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For JIO I'll have to use an app for calls. Data would work fine. Anyway, I've decided to save up some money. V30 is doing to launch soon
ishanbhatnagr96 said:
For JIO I'll have to use an app for calls. Data would work fine. Anyway, I've decided to save up some money. V30 is doing to launch soon
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In India ? there were rumours earlier.
The price is exorbitant right now.
i picked up a v20 for 30k, cheaper than i got the G4. i get the battery and everything else. The new screen i can miss but the wide angle will need post work
If you can wait, its better to get a phone that launches with Oreo as there will be mandatory Treble support
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In India ? there were rumours earlier.
The price is exorbitant right now.
i picked up a v20 for 30k, cheaper than i got the G4. i get the battery and everything else. The new screen i can miss but the wide angle will need post work
If you can wait, its better to get a phone that launches with Oreo as there will be mandatory Treble support
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A brand new V20 from Flipkart costs 25k.
Yeah I'm thinking of waiting now. Gonna extend my time with Redmi note 4
Looking at purchasing a V20 and just wanted people's opinions on the phone (those who already own it and are using it). I can get a new one for $230 from a legit seller on eBay so I'm seriously considering it. Right now I have an iPhone 8+ with AT&T but I'm missing my Android and it would be nice to have a user replaceable battery and not be stuck with a phone whose battery dies after 2 years or so.
I'm also wondering which model to buy? The new one on eBay is a H190, but I've read in places that the US996 is also a good model. I might actually consider rooting this phone so which model would be easiest to root?
Thanks.
dougdraws said:
Looking at purchasing a V20 and just wanted people's opinions on the phone (those who already own it and are using it). I can get a new one for $230 from a legit seller on eBay so I'm seriously considering it. Right now I have an iPhone 8+ with AT&T but I'm missing my Android and it would be nice to have a user replaceable battery and not be stuck with a phone whose battery dies after 2 years or so.
I'm also wondering which model to buy? The new one on eBay is a H190, but I've read in places that the US996 is also a good model. I might actually consider rooting this phone so which model would be easiest to root?
Thanks.
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Honestly, I would never suggest someone to buy the LG V20. And since you're currently an iOS user owning an 8+ this would reinforce me to not suggest the phone even more. I own a V20 (H990DS AME) & I'm using it to write this. It's been with me for almost 2 years & boy it throttles A LOT. I'm still on Android nougat waiting for the Oreo update. Other V20 models have gotten the Oreo update (Verizon, AT&T, All international H990DS except AME I think etc.). So to summarize things up, I do not recommend this phone as it will be a pain most of the time i.e. cons >>>>>>>>>>> pros. Screen burn ins, too much lags, bad battery life, slow performance, extremely slow software support, laggy camera, outdated design (at least that's what I think now), and the useless second screen that LG THINKS they implemented the software correctly for it (Oreo doesn't change the way it works, meaning it's still the same) >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-Fi Quad DAC (The only good thing I can think of in the V20).
PS: NO root for Android Oreo on the V20 since it just came out 1 year late woohoo! So you'll have to wait until a root comes out.
dougdraws said:
Looking at purchasing a V20 and just wanted people's opinions on the phone (those who already own it and are using it). I can get a new one for $230 from a legit seller on eBay so I'm seriously considering it. Right now I have an iPhone 8+ with AT&T but I'm missing my Android and it would be nice to have a user replaceable battery and not be stuck with a phone whose battery dies after 2 years or so.
I'm also wondering which model to buy? The new one on eBay is a H190, but I've read in places that the US996 is also a good model. I might actually consider rooting this phone so which model would be easiest to root?
Thanks.
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Here's the deal. If you plan on rooting your phone...get it. Custom ROMs really make this phone shine. Us996 is unlockable and rootable. The H910 is rootable up to a certain point, double check on that as it's not my model. If you're going to keep the phone stock..it's OK. You're going to get some lag over time. I'm on an LS997, rooted it was great (broke that one), and now I'm on stock ? Oreo. It's good for a daily driver for the most part. Love that I can pop and swap batteries as well as sd cards -- quad DAC and ir blaster are also a big plus. Long story short, it's ok stock but you will deal with screen burn (pretty much fixed if rooted) and lag. I know iOS is pretty solid and is fluid, but the things I CANT do with that phone drive me absolutely nuts. That's why I always go back to Android. If you root your phones definitely get it. Can't beat the features for that price brand new. You can pick them up even cheaper used. The guy above me obviously didn't root his phone and I'm sure he'd be singing a different tune about the phone if he did. I say get it, especially if you're gonna root it. If not it's a decent option for the price.
Foreigner1 said:
Honestly, I would never suggest someone to buy the LG V20. And since you're currently an iOS user owning an 8+ this would reinforce me to not suggest the phone even more. I own a V20 (H990DS AME) & I'm using it to write this. It's been with me for almost 2 years & boy it throttles A LOT. I'm still on Android nougat waiting for the Oreo update. Other V20 models have gotten the Oreo update (Verizon, AT&T, All international H990DS except AME I think etc.). So to summarize things up, I do not recommend this phone as it will be a pain most of the time i.e. cons >>>>>>>>>>> pros. Screen burn ins, too much lags, bad battery life, slow performance, extremely slow software support, laggy camera, outdated design (at least that's what I think now), and the useless second screen that LG THINKS they implemented the software correctly for it (Oreo doesn't change the way it works, meaning it's still the same) >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-Fi Quad DAC (The only good thing I can think of in the V20).
PS: NO root for Android Oreo on the V20 since it just came out 1 year late woohoo! So you'll have to wait until a root comes out.
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I agree with this. Wouldn't recommend it either. You'd be better off with another device.
Foreigner1 said:
Honestly, I would never suggest someone to buy the LG V20. And since you're currently an iOS user owning an 8+ this would reinforce me to not suggest the phone even more. I own a V20 (H990DS AME) & I'm using it to write this. It's been with me for almost 2 years & boy it throttles A LOT. I'm still on Android nougat waiting for the Oreo update. Other V20 models have gotten the Oreo update (Verizon, AT&T, All international H990DS except AME I think etc.). So to summarize things up, I do not recommend this phone as it will be a pain most of the time i.e. cons >>>>>>>>>>> pros. Screen burn ins, too much lags, bad battery life, slow performance, extremely slow software support, laggy camera, outdated design (at least that's what I think now), and the useless second screen that LG THINKS they implemented the software correctly for it (Oreo doesn't change the way it works, meaning it's still the same) >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi-Fi Quad DAC (The only good thing I can think of in the V20).
PS: NO root for Android Oreo on the V20 since it just came out 1 year late woohoo! So you'll have to wait until a root comes out.
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Have you even considered a custom ROM? All of your gripes are pretty much eliminated by using one..
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aakashverma0007 said:
I agree with this. Wouldn't recommend it either. You'd be better off with another device.
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You're on stock?
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Have you even considered a custom ROM? All of your gripes are pretty much eliminated by using one..
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You're on stock?
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No. I've tried custom roms. Things are a lot better with them.
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Have you even considered a custom ROM? All of your gripes are pretty much eliminated by using one..
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No actually I haven't tried custom ROMs, and I don't know much about them. However, recently I did start looking into them, but as I can see that installing custom ROMs will remove some functionality in the V20. Things like the second screen &/or the fingerprint scanner (Also what about the Hi-Fi Quad DAC? Will it still work?).
What custom ROM would you suggest as the best one for the V20 (H990DS)?
Thanks for the replies everyone. So if I wanted to go back to Android can you recommend a good phone? I hate the new curved screens on everything and it seems all the phones are starting to look alike. I should have stuck with my Note 5, but oh well live and learn, lol. I was only considering the V20 because of the replaceable battery, SD card and of course Android.
Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on the V30?
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No actually I haven't tried custom ROMs, and I don't know much about them. However, recently I did start looking into them, but as I can see that installing custom ROMs will remove some functionality in the V20. Things like the second screen &/or the fingerprint scanner (Also what about the Hi-Fi Quad DAC? Will it still work?).
What custom ROM would you suggest as the best one for the V20 (H990DS)?
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Those only apply if your using an lineage/resurrection/aikp ROM and from the last I read lineage has second screen support ...ish. I think there's a way to get quad DAC working in lineage too. You'll have to read it though. I can't root my phone because of ARB but before I broke my last v20 I loved running custom ROMs . If you use a stock rooted ROM you can debloat and tweak the system for performance. Again on custom stock based ROMs all features still work. Go through the ROM recovery thread and look to see what works best for you.
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dougdraws said:
Thanks for the replies everyone. So if I wanted to go back to Android can you recommend a good phone? I hate the new curved screens on everything and it seems all the phones are starting to look alike. I should have stuck with my Note 5, but oh well live and learn, lol. I was only considering the V20 because of the replaceable battery, SD card and of course Android.
Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on the V30?
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No second screen no removable battery...meh I'll stick with my v20. Like I said if you root it and put a custom ROM on it's in my opinion a far better phone than those available. The newer ones may have water resistance fingerprint scanner in screen etc...but those arent what made me choose a phone. The v20 has everyhing i wanted. As the v30 I hear it's a decent phone.
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No second screen no removable battery...meh I'll stick with my v20. Like I said if you root it and put a custom ROM on it's in my opinion a far better phone than those available. The newer ones may have water resistance fingerprint scanner in screen etc...but those arent what made me choose a phone. The v20 has everyhing i wanted. As the v30 I hear it's a decent phone.
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How difficult is it to root the V20? I'm a complete n00b when it comes to rooting and from little I have read on it, it seems quite daunting.
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How difficult is it to root the V20? I'm a complete n00b when it comes to rooting and from little I have read on it, it seems quite daunting.
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It's not incredibly difficult. There's literally a thread with step by step instructions. It was harder than rooting my note 5 and note 4, but impossibly so.
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It's not incredibly difficult. There's literally a thread with step by step instructions. It was harder than rooting my note 5 and note 4, but impossibly so.
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Would you have a link to that thread?
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Would you have a link to that thread?
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I can't search cause I'm on mobile but if you go to the news and development threat you can search the dirty santa rooting g method or laf method depending in the variant.
The v20 is a very nice phone. In fact I bought another one. It has a SD slot, 64gb onboerd, IR blaster and removable battery. It's worth it just for those features. Mine does not throttle. Neither one does. I just wish people would not buy phones that take away features, it just encourages the phone makers to keep taking them away. As a result, next time I buy a phone, I'll be forced to but an inferior product to my v20's [emoji852]️
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The V20 is a fine device, yes even today so the naysayers and ne'er-do-wells in this thread automagically telling anyone to avoid it - considering everything it offers that can't really be found on most if any of the flagships available today - is a bit ludicrous. It gets the job done just fine, Oreo is now available for it (save for the US996 but that could become available any day now whenever LG gets around to it), and of the variants out there I would say - if you're in the US - the best variant to get is the T-Mobile H918 model which allows for easy bootloader unlocking, Oreo is now out (and we just got our first security patch for that a few days ago), it has some custom ROMs available that get good reviews (but you will lose some functionality, the second screen support is barely there but it does exist to various degrees, both Nougat and Oreo), and of course all the other good things about the phone are great.
The Snapdragon 820 even in spite of being a lowly quad core SoC is still damned powerful and fast. The 4GB RAM is more than enough today, there are a multitude of tweaks and custom kernels to improve things, TWRP is actively developed for the V20, and the device just works. Yes it has some screen retention issues at times, on some people's devices it's more noticeable, on others - like on mine - it's just not something to focus on nearly as much as some people do. The 820 does hardware accelerated h.265 8 and 10 bit decoding too so that's a plus if you're a media hound like a lot of people too.
$230 for a used V20 is kinda steep - I paid $110 for my H918 from an eBay seller and it was shipped to my door for that much, no issues so far aside from the rear camera having some focus issues but I resolved that by buying a new camera module and I'm good to go so I've put $138 into my V20 and it works damned near flawlessly at this point.
H918
- Easily unlocked bootloader
- Installing TWRP is fairly idiot proof as well
- Rooting is possible but a bit more complex in methodology, it's actually easier to just flash a pre-rooted stock ROM and probably faster too
- Stock rooted Oreo 20g and you can roll back to Nougat with no issues (at least up to the present time, nobody knows if T-Mobile might alter the ARB variable at a later time)
- Latest Vulkan GPU drivers (I don't really need them since I don't play games or do much that ever even kicks the GPU into action but I figured it can't hurt to install 'em)
- High Impedance mode for the DAC is enabled permanently because I changed a variable in build.prop so it was always on regardless of the headset/IEMs I use
- I use UAPP (USB Audio Player PRO) to always use the ESS DAC (and not the Snapdragon DAC as part of the SoC) for all audio playback of local files and streaming audio from Shoutcast-capable streams
- IR blaster is something I use quite a bit - my Wife is deaf and sometimes we'll go to places that have TVs like a doctor's office lobby or something similar and they rarely enable the closed captioning or subtitles on their TVs so, I do it myself so my Wife can keep up with what's going on even in spite of their inconsiderate attention to details
- Modified thermal config file to ensure I get minimal lag and throttling - using the CPU Throttling Test app I get no less than 83% throttling (not much at all really) after 15 minutes of testing, with the stock thermal conf it'll throttle down as low as 45% depending on temps
- mk2000 kernel which improves performance and battery life (modified stock kernel)
It just works for me, but as I said, you can find a great V20 for a lot less than $230, absolutely. Hell, Woot.com was selling refurbs a few weeks ago for $140 iirc, a lot of people pounced on those when it happened according to what I had read about the deal.
It's a fantastic piece of hardware, but not it's not perfect, nothing ever is. For the price, and for what it offers, it's still pretty damned hard to beat even today.
dougdraws said:
Thanks for the replies everyone. So if I wanted to go back to Android can you recommend a good phone? I hate the new curved screens on everything and it seems all the phones are starting to look alike. I should have stuck with my Note 5, but oh well live and learn, lol. I was only considering the V20 because of the replaceable battery, SD card and of course Android.
Just out of curiosity, what's your opinion on the V30?
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I actually have a v30 plus at home and it's amazing. Display is gorgeous and an AMOLED panel. Battery life is good. Camera's great. Has HiFi DAC. Doesn't have screen retention issues.
The reason I'm not recommending v20 is because it's a 2016 flagship that doesn't really perform like a flagship on stock rom in terms of performance. It probably won't be getting Pie update.
For 230 dollars, if you don't mind rooting, it's a good device.
What's the cost at which you're getting V30?
Though it doesn't support removable battery.
dougdraws said:
How difficult is it to root the V20? I'm a complete n00b when it comes to rooting and from little I have read on it, it seems quite daunting.
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Rooting on the H918 (T-Mobile) version isn't that hard. You use a FWUL (Linux) and run 3 commands. Really easy and safe. The other models can vary but if you know how to use cmd even a little bit, it shouldn't be that hard. If you need help just ask on here.
Foreigner1 said:
I own a V20 (H990DS AME) & I'm using it to write this. I'm still on Android nougat waiting for the Oreo update. Other V20 models have gotten the Oreo update (Verizon, AT&T, All international H990DS except AME I think etc.). Screen burn ins, too much lags, bad battery life, slow performance, extremely slow software support, laggy camera, and the useless second screen that LG THINKS they implemented the software correctly for it (Oreo doesn't change the way it works, meaning it's still the same). Hi-Fi Quad DAC (The only good thing I can think of in the V20).
PS: NO root for Android Oreo on the V20 since it just came out 1 year late woohoo! So you'll have to wait until a root comes out.
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FYI: https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-h990ds-oreo-flashable-t3853735
There's flashable Oreo stock and custom rooted ROMs available for almost every variant.
Also, all of those problems are eliminated by a custom ROM and Kernel. It's a process, yes, but the phone essentially becomes something else entirely.
Also also, we've got second-screen support on ResurrectionRemix (this is most up to date) and LineageOS, both with the stock ROM kernel or a custom one (I maintain the second-screen Gamma kernel).
The DAC/Camera/etc. all work as they do on stock.
got it for 2000 hkd. still using wetarom....is fast as hell and the battery last forever... the only down side is it requires some tweaking and tuning..
masondoctorjt said:
The v20 is a very nice phone. In fact I bought another one. It has a SD slot, 64gb onboerd, IR blaster and removable battery. It's worth it just for those features.
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Bottom line
I just wish people would not buy phones that take away features, it just encourages the phone makers to keep taking them away. As a result, next time I buy a phone, I'll be forced to but an inferior product to my v20's [emoji852]️
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Amen
What's happened is at some point the customer stopped mattering any more only the company stock holder. All these companies copy things that make Apple suck they never try to emulate what makes Apple great.
dougdraws said:
Looking at purchasing a V20 and just wanted people's opinions on the phone (those who already own it and are using it).
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I'm on stock since i didn't want to bother with rooting. The phone does what i want. I don't have screen retention since i have brightness down. I suspect its caused by high brightness all the time. Some people can't see the screen unless its 70% bright. Mine is usually in the 20s or 30s unless its outdoors
I got it because of the camera i had on the G4. Liked the interface. The wide angle is useful. Starting to be copied by Samsung & Huawei
I don't use headphones but I hear its got a good DAC. Reason i don't have headphones is because increasingly where would i plug them into in the future
Still on N, and everything works fine. I avg 4-5h SOT on wifi and a spare will double that in a snap. No high end phone can match that and likely never will. Mid rangers with 600 series CPUS & thick batteries might.
I find the second screen useful. Only way to quick launch the camera while listening to something
I'm not too bothered with speed. Computers spend most of their lives waiting for people to tell them what to do. This phone runs cool maybe its because it throttles past a certain temperature. That's good as i live in the tropics and it can get warm here.
I'm actually nervous about Oreo that it might break something so i'm not in the slightest bit bothered about not having it yet.