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I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research LG G2 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is Xperia Z1. Thanks in advance.
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I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research LG G2 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is Xperia Z1. Thanks in advance.
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Yes it is still very worth it. I'd go for whatever is cheaper, cant go wrong with either.
kdarknight said:
I am going to buy a new android cellphone tomorrow and after too much research LG G2 is the phone that fits my budget to its worth with specifications. So my question is after approx 1 year is it Still a value for money? Are there any issues i should be worried about?
My alternate to this is Xperia Z1. Thanks in advance.
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It's still got a Good Processing power and [email protected] Video-Recording.
Yes, it's worth it.
Even the Galaxy S2 is not outdated yet in my opinion!
You have used xperia Z2 and Lg G2 both before so i think you can help me out here. If i ask you to choose one out of two for free, i.e. LG G2 or Xperia Z1 what would you pick?
It's a very good buy for the money. Buttons on the back were something I was worried of, but now I cannot imagine my life without them
Snapdragon 800 still can manage anything you throw at it and the camera, the display (slim bezels and such colors, I love it!) and the battery are just outstanding.
As for comparison between Xperia Z1 ang G2 I would choose the G2 thousand times, Z1's got a little faster camera but I would stand that s****y display and the big clumsy body. The xperia Z line are the most impractical phones I've ever had in my hand (I also tried the Z2).
Go for it.. Its cheap now and still great.
I Had one, sold it and got the Xperia Z3. Got tired waiting for Root exploit, bought another G2 again with erased IMEI, restored IMEI.. Love it again,. Best phone i ever had. HAIL the G2.
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You have used xperia Z2 and Lg G2 both before so i think you can help me out here. If i ask you to choose one out of two for free, i.e. LG G2 or Xperia Z1 what would you pick?
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Me personally, id go with the xperia. Such a premium feeling device with waterproofing (which is good since 1 device ive had died due to water..) and the stock rom is by far one of the best IMO, if not the best. The camera quality was relatively equal but the z2 seemed to film better (or at least at a higher consistent framerate while the g2 even with 60fps selected can drop frames). Only issue is that there is a lack of development for the z2. Sure there are some roms and kernels, but there arent as many roms and kernels there when compared to the g2 (this is z2 development, z1 may be different). The speaker of the z2 was much better as well (however, the z1 is probably worse than the z2 and equal to the g2).
In the end, id still choose the xperia... Such a shame mine cracked so easily as they're generally really tough devices.
The battery life of the z2 was also noticably better in my own experience, however, thats probably due to the stamina mode included.
My only issue is that this is my experience with the Z2, not Z1. They are similar devices but not identical and a lot of the pluses of the z2 i listed might not be in the z1. (Like speaker or battery life)
I got a Xperia Z Original(tmobile) and just waiting for it to be delivered.
I use a Windows Phone now and only ever used like 10 apps total. Might use 20 at most in a day.
Is this phone still a good for casual performance. I mostly use music,video,email,social media apps, and not much else.
All else is done in the browser.
I won't be running multiple apps a lot,no new games.
Also I heard the screen is terrible at an angle, but also heard it's not the screen, but sonys settings.
So can it be made better at viewing angles with software tweaks or is really that bad.
I got for around $120, which looks good for 5 in. 1080p phone.
Just not too sure how the processor holds up.
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Sure!
I'm using Xperia Z for daily use
It still perform well without any lag
I usually use it to listen musics.surf the net....
It can even run a lot of games!!
the only defect is it's poor screen and poor battery life...it too bad
but all in all, I think Xperia Z is still a execellent phone!
tnciw said:
Sure!
I'm using Xperia Z for daily use
It still perform well without any lag
I usually use it to listen musics.surf the net....
It can even run a lot of games!!
the only defect is it's poor screen and poor battery life...it too bad
but all in all, I think Xperia Z is still a execellent phone!
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What do you mean poor battery.
Is it okay or really bad?
I don't use my phone with screen on for too long.
I once had a galaxy nexus and that thing would drain like 1% a minute with screen on!
In the span of 30 minutes my battery was like a 70!
Xperia Z is good but it was a history..
i'm using Xperia ZL though, there no different between this Z and ZL since there are brother more like a twin..
both of it sucks at battery life if you upgrade to android 5.0.2 which means you have made one mistakes and you will experience phone overheating like you can put your pan and make omelette on it with the battery draining like hell when display remain on because i only got less than 4 hours if device screen remain on plus the camera won't be capturing nice photo anymore even the android version is rising up from 4.1.2 tp 5.02, but the camera quality is falling down and down..
Positive sides is...
The music? i admit my ZL in 5.0.2 sounds better..no scary sound like others, i got more clarity of my music..
i salute for this phone is still smooth eventhough 2 years old and quite satisfying performance but poor battery life.. Well that's it.. my opinion..
I'm migrating to Lenovo Vibe Shot until 5.1.1 is out.. Goodbye
Good to know, wasn't Sony supposed to roll out updates for Android 5.1 this month?
Not sure if it will updated or not, when I receive it.
As to me,the battery drop 1% in 2-3min
I think...if you use it just for receiving phone call
It can satisfy you of course.
But if you want to play games or surf the net
I would suggest you to do it with a powerbank
If you don't care about battery problem and photo quality
Xperia Z will be very suit for you !
The screen isn't that bad, only at angle viewing, not when viewing straightforward.
Also, battery should be replaced after 12 months, for every phones brand so..
And I use custom kernel which throttles the cpu when it gets warm so my phone stays cool
But I'm afraid with tmobile u can't unlock bootloader and therefore not flash custom kernels.
Anyway, I think this phone is still a good one to get. (better that windows phone lol xD)
It was actually sony's flagship in 2013..
Are the dock connectors on the side the same from Z-Z3?
Some of the magnetic cables that use the connectors say only Z1,Z2,Z3.
They never mention Original Z, so did they change the connectors for the dock after the Original Z?
Yes. The Z have different connectors than Z1, Z2 and Z3. Each Z phone have a specific dock for charging. I don't recommend the magnetic charging cables.
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If you set screen brightness to 70%, battery life isn't that bad. Screen is ok when you normally look at it. Also,you can downgrade Android version and everything will much better! No heating,better battery life, better photos...
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hmm since it will be getting tmobile version, is it that hard to downgrade?
One last thing, what docks do you use for the xperia Z.
The Sony docks are kind of expensive and have seen some cheaper ones for like $10.
Would a third-party dock work well?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DBVV8QA/ref=twister_B00DAV8Q1G?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
Got this one for $3.86, since I had like $4 in amazon credit.
we'll see how slow it charges, most third party chargers charge really slow.
Also any big issues to be aware of?
I've seen some forum post of people saying the phone screen cracked without them touching it.
SD cards being killed by the phone.
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...my-ear-Screen-cracked-from/m-p/317879#U317879
http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...-touching-or-dropping-it/m-p/1002815#U1002815
They seemed a bit far fetched.... kind of funny just reading the post.
Sony phones have very bad service centers. That's a big Sony's problem
daniLaLaLaLaLa said:
Xperia Z is good but it was a history..
i'm using Xperia ZL though, there no different between this Z and ZL since there are brother more like a twin..
both of it sucks at battery life if you upgrade to android 5.0.2 which means you have made one mistakes and you will experience phone overheating like you can put your pan and make omelette on it with the battery draining like hell when display remain on because i only got less than 4 hours if device screen remain on plus the camera won't be capturing nice photo anymore even the android version is rising up from 4.1.2 tp 5.02, but the camera quality is falling down and down..
Positive sides is...
The music? i admit my ZL in 5.0.2 sounds better..no scary sound like others, i got more clarity of my music..
i salute for this phone is still smooth eventhough 2 years old and quite satisfying performance but poor battery life.. Well that's it.. my opinion..
I'm migrating to Lenovo Vibe Shot until 5.1.1 is out.. Goodbye
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I just bought a 2nd hand Xperia Z,and it asked me to update so I pressed it and I end up with 5.0.2. Battery runs out on me twice a day pretty heavy user, I got the paid version of poweramp and about £20 worth of widgets and skins for poweramp player and I can only use the default skin and widget, and I mainly use it just for music, I tried to root my phonyyesterday with kingroot and it worked, I don't know what happened but I got rid of the root, as I didn't know what to do after I rooted, I want to use custom rom and delete unused apps what I never use, if anyone got any help for me after rooting, I wasn't able to update SuperSu it wouldn't update, I don't know what ideas doing really.
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I got the phone today and it's on 4.3.
Any way to root it?
edit: I rooted the phone, a lot easier than I thought.
Now since the tmobile version is locked bootloader.
What is the best Android version to have on on the Xperia Z?
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I got the phone today and it's on 4.3.
Any way to root it?
edit: I rooted the phone, a lot easier than I thought.
Now since the tmobile version is locked bootloader.
What is the best Android version to have on on the Xperia Z?
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4.3 is perfect. Stay with it until 5.1 is released.
Not sure if this fits the forum but I don't know where else to post this question.
I like my G2 for the big screen on a compact size but it is getting old. Battery isn't what it use to be although it still has great battery life. I'm getting a bit of lag and sometimes stuff won't work for some reason... alarm failed on me a couple of times and I can't replicate the issue, not sure if it was user error but I suspect it wasn't. It's an AT&T G2 running Android 5.0.2
So was thinking that maybe it was time for a new one but here comes my problem... all the good phones I get recommended are huuuuge!! The G2 is very slightly over my size limit already, making it usable with a single hand but sometimes I already have a tough time using it that way, I'll have to move it on my hand a different way to reach something on the very edge of the screen. New phones like the G4 also seem to have worst battery life, having bigger screens with higher resolutions but the same MAH capacity.
I've just seen there are newer Android versions for this phone, including Marshmallow via CyanogenMod. So, is there a phone with similar size, screen and battery life as the G2 or should I try to hang on to it a bit longer? Or just forget about this and get a newer one and get used to it? Maybe a Nexus 6p, seems like a good battery life phone and going pure Android would be nice after spending this much time with a US carrier phone that isn't supported here in Portugal...
Thanks!
S6 got exactly same size(even more slim) with G2 with better cpu, camera, design and screen. However, battery probably won't be as good.
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S6 got exactly same size(even more slim) with G2 with better cpu, camera, design and screen. However, battery probably won't be as good.
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Yes, I thought about that one. Would mean a different sort of use because I know that the battery life is pretty bad comparing it to the G2 but I believe it has fast charge, so....
Kutusov said:
Yes, I thought about that one. Would mean a different sort of use because I know that the battery life is pretty bad comparing it to the G2 but I believe it has fast charge, so....
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To be honest, all octa-core cpu isn't battery friendly as SD800/SD801 and Exynos 7420 is already better than SD810/808 and MTK x10 in terms of battery life. S7 got 450mAh more battery but according to leaked info it also a bit bigger than S6 in size.
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To be honest, all octa-core cpu isn't battery friendly as SD800/SD801 and Exynos 7420 is already better than SD810/808 and MTK x10 in terms of battery life. S7 got 450mAh more battery but according to leaked info it also a bit bigger than S6 in size.
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Had to Google Exynos as I think my tech stuff knowledge stopped at around the Galaxy S1 or S2. Bought a new PC on xmas and had to ask for a straight out recommendation on the store, like "So, from all of these PCs, which one is the best?" (suprise, suprise, the answer was the more expensive one... )
I don't know... I think I'll try flashing something like CyanogenMod and try dragging it a bit more. Maybe what I'm looking for on a phone is now buried in some midtier lineup, I don't know. I bought this one from a friend in an emergency after drowning my HTC OneX in the ocean and I still love it. Liked HTC's Sense a lot more than this LG UI but bigger screen on a similar size phone and tons more of battery life trumps it all.
Uhm, now that I wrote that, "biggest battery life android phone" is a good place for me to start googling. I really don't care about a ton of features or ultra quick cpus if you end up needing to have it always plugged to the wall.
Check out gsmarena they have a good battery checker page for most phones.
The G2 compares well to a lot of the newer more expensive phones.
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Treboeth said:
Check out gsmarena they have a good battery checker page for most phones.
The G2 compares well to a lot of the newer more expensive phones.
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Thanks for that, knew the site but never had seen that tool! Very helpful! Galaxy S6 Active is always mentioned as one of the best ones but it came up with a Xiaomi Redmi 3 also, which I never heard about and assume it's some Chinese brand. 4200mah battery if specs are to be trusted and a quad-core 616, which should save on juice as TheEndHK was saying.
Right, at least now I have some pointers from where to look around. Thanks guys!
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Thanks for that, knew the site but never had seen that tool! Very helpful! Galaxy S6 Active is always mentioned as one of the best ones but it came up with a Xiaomi Redmi 3 also, which I never heard about and assume it's some Chinese brand. 4200mah battery if specs are to be trusted and a quad-core 616, which should save on juice as TheEndHK was saying.
Right, at least now I have some pointers from where to look around. Thanks guys!
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Regular single sim model of S6 got CM12.1 on xda board, not sure about S6 Active though. Redmi3 is only 720P screen and I've just played around with SD615 last week on other phone, the speed is real low compared to SD800 or 7420. SD615/616 is just a slightly faster clocked of SD410. There is no real alternative other than S6 as of now.
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Regular single sim model of S6 got CM12.1 on xda board, not sure about S6 Active though. Redmi3 is only 720P screen and I've just played around with SD615 last week on other phone, the speed is real low compared to SD800 or 7420. SD615/616 is just a slightly faster clocked of SD410. There is no real alternative other than S6 as of now.
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Well, the S6 is not an option for me, battery life is way too short and I find myself away from a wall plug too often to be comfortable with such a device. But that sort of answers my question... Yes, the G2 is still very relevant, at least until flagship phones start coming out in normal person's sizes
I'll just flash CyanogenMod13 when a stable version becomes available and see what else comes out. I find it hard to believe that it will take long before one company figures out that it's all very well to come up with big, impressive screen flagship phone but a lot of people don't want to cart around a phablet. Something to compete directly with the one hand handling of an Iphone 6s (or whatever the smaller and latest iphone name is).
You better start flashing as we already have a few MM ROMs for our G2
CM13,AICP,Bliss,Crdroid, ResurrectionRemix all are IMO daily drivers.
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Treboeth said:
You better start flashing as we already have a few MM ROMs for our G2
CM13,AICP,Bliss,Crdroid, ResurrectionRemix all are IMO daily drivers.
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I saw the Bliss one and seemed like stable enough. CM13 is still a Nightly release, so I'm a bit scared to try that one yet. I'm not all that into highly customized or customizable roms, I prefer reliability and the closest to stock and simplicity. Oh, and solid support and OTA supports would be nice... any ROM in particular I should look into, giving these preferences? (...long time since I flashed a phone, I glanced through the development threads and it was pretty much gibberish to me )
Well CM13 is the base for them all and if you only flash builds from 2 or 3 days before( flash the 20160207 for example) you have the most recent without being on the edge.
I like AICP(I like customising my ROM)and CM13 as well.
I find it fairly easy to flash different ROMs so hop between them
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Kutusov said:
Well, the S6 is not an option for me, battery life is way too short and I find myself away from a wall plug too often to be comfortable with such a device. But that sort of answers my question... Yes, the G2 is still very relevant, at least until flagship phones start coming out in normal person's sizes
I'll just flash CyanogenMod13 when a stable version becomes available and see what else comes out. I find it hard to believe that it will take long before one company figures out that it's all very well to come up with big, impressive screen flagship phone but a lot of people don't want to cart around a phablet. Something to compete directly with the one hand handling of an Iphone 6s (or whatever the smaller and latest iphone name is).
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Battery life isn't such worst in my case. I've got S6 and Z5c dual flagships now (considering to sell out either one indeed), their battery is just identical. The real problem on S6 got poor memory management and during heavy multi-tasking the apps at background will keep reloading to waste extra battery, light to medium user like me should be fine. The battery and memory management been fixed on 6.01 and international model of 920F/925F just started to roll out Marshmallow today in Poland.
However, if your G2 is in good condition and still satisfied with the camera and don't care about Marshmallow. I don't see much points to leave G2.
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However, if your G2 is in good condition and still satisfied with the camera and don't care about Marshmallow. I don't see much points to leave G2.
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I hear Marshmallow should greatly improve battery life on any phone, so I do care about that. I think the problems you mentioned for the S6 also happen to certain extent on the G2, I know I used to have battery for significantly longer when I had it on Jelly Bean. But could also be the case of a fresher battery or a lighter usage, I do use it more nowadays.
Camera was always pretty bad IMO. Hardware might be good but the how it encodes the picture just messes everything in most situations. I would like it to do a better job but it's not something that will determine me letting go of a phone. I would never own an Iphone unless I went full Apple but I'm yet to see an Android doing a better job with pictures than an Iphone. And it's not the lens, I'm pretty sure it's the IOS...
But yes, I think I'll stick with this G2 for a little longer. Somethings are starting to give in but maybe I can drag it enough until I come across a phone that gives me some confidence. Besides, I really got used to those buttons on the back Thought they were nonsense the first day I used it but now I would hate to go back to Samsung or HTC way of doing things!
Credit to LG - I also have the G2 and have given up finding a replacement for it. Will wait till it dies then find something less satisfactory. Samsung are bloated and have major battery issues so I wouldn't buy one.
jasminder said:
Credit to LG - I also have the G2 and have given up finding a replacement for it. Will wait till it dies then find something less satisfactory. Samsung are bloated and have major battery issues so I wouldn't buy one.
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I ended up getting an S7 and I'm very pleased with it. UI has been greatly de-bloated, battery life is great. The other phone I considered at the time I bought it was the just released Huawei P9. Got a P9 Lite for my father the other day and, after playing with it, even the Lite is a fantastic phone.
LG hasn't been great... the G2 was a beast at the time but every other one was a big fail. G4 had a manufacturing problem on the motherboard that affected something like 90% of the phones and most would die within 6 months. Took them forever to admit and fix the problem,
jasminder said:
Credit to LG - I also have the G2 and have given up finding a replacement for it. Will wait till it dies then find something less satisfactory. Samsung are bloated and have major battery issues so I wouldn't buy one.
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I went from G2 to G3.
When the screen went bad on the G3, I got a warranty replacement and sold that.
Now I have an Octa Core version Note 4 and another G2 as a backup.
The Note 4 Octa core is a huge upgrade from the G2 and is coming down price wise vs. newer Samsung's yet delivers similar performance removable battery and Micro SD card.
I'd look at that or the new One Plus 3T which is also good too
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I'd look at that or the new One Plus 3T which is also good too
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I would also seriously consider that one too if I was in the market for a new phone. Sounds a bit like Apple with their "S" versions, they seem to have improved and fixed the negatives on that one.
G2 works really well and smooth for me except I have an occasional reboot out of nowhere. IDK what's causing it, it's stock rooted ROM.
If you're looking for a new phone recommendation you have to take price into consideration cause otherwise just go with Galaxy S7 (5.1 inch).
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G2 works really well and smooth for me except I have an occasional reboot out of nowhere. IDK what's causing it, it's stock rooted ROM.
If you're looking for a new phone recommendation you have to take price into consideration cause otherwise just go with Galaxy S7 (5.1 inch).
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That's odd, never happened with mine... maybe a factory reset if it starts to bother you that much, at least you would be able to tell if it's software or hardware related.
I did end up getting an S7 but it was pretty much out of frustration, other phones all had some small thing that was a no-no for me (mainly battery life). Touchwiz is miles away from what it used to be, I don't like a pure Android feel and it ends up being just about the right amount of UI skin. Huawei P9 is a really nice one for a lot less money and I bet the next P10 (if they call it that) will be on par with Samsung from a normal user point of view.
Hello, friends.
I'm a user of a Z3C (had a Z1C before that). Now that Nougat isn't available anymore for our phone, I was wondering if I should buy a Z5C or a XC.
I'm not a stock user. I use a lot of mods and custom stuff on my phone. Stock isn't for me. I know that Z5C is more powerful and more affordable that a XC, but it only has one more year of support.
Would you recommend upgrading (at all)? And if yes, which of the models
I was thinking about waiting for the new Nexus phone...but damn, that price! Also took into consideration a Nexus 5X or a Samsung S7...I don't want a big phone, nor to sell my kidneys for a phone.
Man I was in the same situation as you deciding between Z5c and Xc. I had a Nextbit Robin for around 3 months. Worse decision ever. Don't get me wrong the Robin is nice, looks great and high specs but the poorly optimised software from Nextbit is just awful. Huge problems with audio playback (3.5mm).
So I was looking for a new Android device. The two models that got my attention was Z5c and Xc. Having already used the Xc from family member I liked it. It did everything the Nextbit Robin did but BETTER! Audio playback is the biggest feature for me. Works perfectly. However I decided to go for the Xperia Z5 Compact due to being waterproof, better specs. Also something to note with Xc is that the back will get scratched easily due to the material finish which is cheap plastic and very glossy. No matter even if you are the most careful person looking after your gadgets.
Here in the UK I got ordered the Sony Xperia Z5 Compact Yellow for £179. Black out of stock and the retailer don't stock White variant. So being a guy this will be my first yellow phone LOL. Hope women out in public see my new flashy phone and get attracted to me LOL but if gay men do then I need to run LOL
My Z5c arrives tomorrow (06/10/2016). I can post my feedback tomorrow if you want. Also I ain't fussed about updates eg Android N, L etc LOL. Within a year or so there probably be Z6c or something along the lines.
I'd appreciate the feedback. Thanks!
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I'd appreciate the feedback. Thanks!
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Any games you'd like me to try out?
Having just upgraded from my Z3 Compact to a Z5 Compact, I must say, you will not be disappointed! It is noticeably faster and battery life has been better even. I'm using XPower 4 as my ROM, rooted, bootloader unlocked, DRM-fixed, thermal-patched, xposed, amplify, greenify, etc. Basically the exact same setup I had under SliMM 3.x on my Z3 Compact, all backed up with Titanium Backup and restored onto my Z5 Compact. Every xposed module works exactly as before, and overall I was back up and running in no time. I feel that the X Compact is a slightly less high-end device compared to the Z5 Compact, it lacks waterproof rating, fingerprint sensor (as long as you import your Z5c), and the really cool looking speaker design.
MiracleMiah said:
Any games you'd like me to try out?
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I'm not much of a gamer. But I am a update freak
MiracleMiah said:
Here in the UK I got ordered the Sony Xperia Z5 Compact Yellow for £179.
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Where did you get it for £179? Is this new or second hand?
pelago said:
Where did you get it for £179? Is this new or second hand?
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I received mine today and it's looks new!
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/so...47868-_-blank-_-blank#contractType=paymonthly
So far it's showing out of stock now but keep any eye on stock level then click Pay & Go option on right side of the page.
MiracleMiah said:
I received mine today and it's looks new!
https://www.o2.co.uk/shop/phones/so...47868-_-blank-_-blank#contractType=paymonthly
So far it's showing out of stock now but keep any eye on stock level then click Pay & Go option on right side of the page.
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Well, I already bought one a couple of weeks ago, £289, from Giffgaff, in black, definitely brand new, but £179 (especially if it really is in new condition) is a bargain.
doriandiaconu said:
I'd appreciate the feedback. Thanks!
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Right I got the device today. So far so good. Everything setup and updated to the latest version. The phone is amazing. Fast and smooth using the OS. Love the build quality and the camera, I'm in love with that. Been taking some photos of family and I love the quality and the amount of manual tweaking you can do.
I have played some games such as Spider-Man, Asphalt etc on it and I noticed after like 15 minutes the back get's slightly hot but nothing too extreme.
However one downside I noticed is the speakers volume is weird. If I play music (on max) it will be loud but after 1 second will go quiet. It's like some sort of auto audio kick in. I did some research and on Sony forums, staff member said after 45 minutes it should be fine. Some users state charge phone to 100%. So will try these method and see how it goes.
Any other Z5 Compact owners notice the issue with the speakers?
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Well, I already bought one a couple of weeks ago, £289, from Giffgaff, in black, definitely brand new, but £179 (especially if it really is in new condition) is a bargain.
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Yes indeed what a bargain! Did you notice the speaker volume output level was low on first day?
MiracleMiah said:
Right I got the device today. So far so good. Everything setup and updated to the latest version. The phone is amazing. Fast and smooth using the OS. Love the build quality and the camera, I'm in love with that. Been taking some photos of family and I love the quality and the amount of manual tweaking you can do.
I have played some games such as Spider-Man, Asphalt etc on it and I noticed after like 15 minutes the back get's slightly hot but nothing too extreme.
However one downside I noticed is the speakers volume is weird. If I play music (on max) it will be loud but after 1 second will go quiet. It's like some sort of auto audio kick in. I did some research and on Sony forums, staff member said after 45 minutes it should be fine. Some users state charge phone to 100%. So will try these method and see how it goes.
Any other Z5 Compact owners notice the issue with the speakers?
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Yes indeed what a bargain! Did you notice the speaker volume output level was low on first day?
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happen to me randomly sometime alot (usually when i play games top speakers become really quiet), i think its hardware bug. because i had it in all stock versions 5.1.1-6.0- 6.1
besides that and the heat and low RAM ( CSR 2 and Modern Combat 5: took all the 2GB RAM)phone has good battery great
GFX almost 200% faster, from XC
ATM, XC no backup TA so for any root user better to get Z5c plus it got waterproof. Z5c can be a very good phone but really need heavy modding and quite trouble, it's a phone that root is a must. Stock is completely useless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z5/development/mod-smartemperaturex-best-balanced-s810-t3438890
Just make sure you guys flash the SmartTempX v1.61 thermal mod for gaming bcoz v1.7/1.8 got slow charge bug.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/development/rom-xpower-v1-0-aroma-debloat-custom-t3371100
Remember to install greenify to free up memory bcoz 2GB ram isn't enough for this device and debloat the rom by yourself. Suggested to flash XPower V3/V4 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/sonyz5-family-unlocked-xz-xc-camera-t3463148
http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/mod-cyberian-camera-t3267271/page203
Originally, I want to upgrade to XC for the camera since camera is the most important part to me. Stock Z5c cam is just way below my expectation but after used stock mod cam and photo quality been much improved, so the plan pushed back a bit now. Will stick with Z5c in this year, next year might get XC when price lower.
MiracleMiah said:
However one downside I noticed is the speakers volume is weird. If I play music (on max) it will be loud but after 1 second will go quiet. It's like some sort of auto audio kick in. I did some research and on Sony forums, staff member said after 45 minutes it should be fine. Some users state charge phone to 100%. So will try these method and see how it goes.
Any other Z5 Compact owners notice the issue with the speakers?
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Did the same thing to me on day one. Next day it was okay. That was 6 months ago and so far so good
I'm a Z5C owner thinking of buying XC. Because I'm sick and tired of this phone.
The one and only option for obtaining Z5C is buying it in a store with a moneyback policy. Most of the phones have overheating and battery drain problems. If you are lucky to get a phone without these issues then you get an awesome smartphone. And if you get the same as others... well, there's moneyback for you.
These issues can't be fixed with any software tweaks, the best way to improve the situation is flashing 5.1 which makes the phone heat much less and allows it to last a day of minor usage which is a great improvement over charging twice a day with Marshmallow. No hope for improvements in Nougat.
I hate Sony for making potentially awesome phones and not paying attention to quality. Z5C could be perfect.
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These issues can't be fixed with any software tweaks, the best way to improve the situation is flashing 5.1 which makes the phone heat much less and allows it to last a day of minor usage which is a great improvement over charging twice a day with Marshmallow.
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Totally disagreed. Do you real root and try? I've got nightmare battery drain at idle with 5.1.1 stock .152/.200 and battery problem completely fixed with XPower rom. I don't think 5.1.1 heat much less too.
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Totally disagreed. Do you real root and try? I've got nightmare battery drain at idle with 5.1.1 stock .152/.200 and battery problem completely fixed with XPower rom. I don't think 5.1.1 heat much less too.
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Of course I did. But all the tweaking just made it a little bit cooler, still as hot as my gf. Even after I severely limited the frequencies it became very slow but didn't stop overheating. 10-15 minutes in Chrome made it extremely hot and drained a few percent of battery charge.
After I downgraded it to 5.1.1 it doesn't even need tweaking anymore. Yes, the battery life still is mediocre at best, and it gets warm from usage, but it lasts twice longer and doesn't throttle down the CPU anymore.
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Of course I did. But all the tweaking just made it a little bit cooler, still as hot as my gf. Even after I severely limited the frequencies it became very slow but didn't stop overheating. 10-15 minutes in Chrome made it extremely hot and drained a few percent of battery charge.
After I downgraded it to 5.1.1 it doesn't even need tweaking anymore. Yes, the battery life still is mediocre at best, and it gets warm from usage, but it lasts twice longer and doesn't throttle down the CPU anymore.
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Do u try water cool your gf?
It's weird the heat appeared same to me in both 5.1.1 and 6.0.1(.253 is more hot than .224) but Sony MM I believe got some memory leaks so 5.1.1 is real faster during in my experiences(bluetooth and wifi is also faster and more stable). But I can't fix the radio active bug in .152/.200 and just keep draining battery, XPower V3/V4 real fixed that.
Plus camera is more important to me, both photo/video much better in MM with mod cam.
TheEndHK said:
Do u try water cool your gf?
It's weird the heat appeared same to me in both 5.1.1 and 6.0.1(.253 is more hot than .224) but Sony MM I believe got some memory leaks so 5.1.1 is real faster during in my experiences(bluetooth and wifi is also faster and more stable). But I can't fix the radio active bug in .152/.200 and just keep draining battery, XPower V3/V4 real fixed that.
Plus camera is more important to me, both photo/video much better in MM with mod cam.
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Of course I tried, didn't help, she's still hot. Will try again. And again.
I'm going to flash the latest MM firmware now and see if anything has changed. If it hasn't I'll flash LP back.
I have to reflash the phone anyway because I got into a bootloop on LP after a few days of using it.
Update;
Reporting back.. Totally love this phone. I'd say get this over the XC Compact. For me the Z5c better build quality and finish. It's been such a smooth experience. Making calls, texting, apps & games.
It put's shame on Nextbit Robin which I had (now sold).
MiracleMiah said:
Update;
Reporting back.. Totally love this phone. I'd say get this over the XC Compact. For me the Z5c better build quality and finish. It's been such a smooth experience. Making calls, texting, apps & games.
It put's shame on Nextbit Robin which I had (now sold).
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What make you change your idea vote for Z5c now?
http://phandroid.com/2016/09/21/htc-bolt-photo/
Keep an eye on new mid range of HTC Bolt. Some suggested a smaller size and cheaper ver of HTC10, not sure 4.7" or 5" at this time if 4.7" can be a good replacement of Z5c and XC.
I already made this thread in the Z5C section and heard the reviews from there, now I'm willing to listen to the users of the XC.
I'm a user of a Z3C (had a Z1C before that). Now that Nougat isn't available anymore for our phone, I was wondering if I should buy a Z5C or a XC.
I'm not a stock user. I use a lot of mods and custom stuff on my phone. Stock isn't for me. I know that Z5C is more powerful and more affordable that a XC, but it only has one more year of support.
Would you recommend upgrading (at all)? And if yes, which of the models
I was thinking about waiting for the new Nexus phone...but damn, that price! Also took into consideration a Nexus 5X or a Samsung S7...I don't want a big phone, nor to sell my kidneys for a phone.
I upgraded from the z5 compact to the X Compact and I have to say I have no regret whatsoever.
The x compact is like a dream phone for me it just fits in your hand like a glove. You won't find a more comfortable in hand feel ever.
Performance is also snappy and Battery life slightly better, camera and display. Everything is just a bit better than the z5 compact.
I was a bit skeptical at first upgrading because the reviews on every big website aren't great for this phone but screw all of em they really have no idea what they are on about.
I follow damir francs reviews on YouTube he's really picky but spot on everytime.
I'm telling you right now this phone is amazing you will not be disappointed at all go get it!
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I'm not a stock user. I use a lot of mods and custom stuff on my phone. Stock isn't for me.
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I recently reinstalled the stock firmware on my phone, which made me realize how much I use that would likely require root on the latest versions of Android. In comparison to something like the Pixel, the limited interest is one of the reasons I'm reconsidering buying the X Compact. I haven't followed the Z5 Compact for some time, but I'd guess there are probably more developers using that phone.
I know that Z5C is more powerful and more affordable that a XC, but it only has one more year of support.
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Personally I'm only going to buy from a major US retailer for easy returns, so the two phones are currently about the same price for me. I watched the Z5 Compact prices after it came out, but realistically I would have already bought it if I was going to. The following video makes the X Compact look faster than the Z5 Compact for the sorts of things I would do most often.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jvi3Om1zA4
Would you recommend upgrading (at all)? And if yes, which of the models
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I can't say if upgrading makes sense for someone else, but I'm probably going to replace my Razr M before the end of the month. The X Compact would be my choice of the two, mainly due to the newer processor.
I was thinking about waiting for the new Nexus phone...but damn, that price! Also took into consideration a Nexus 5X or a Samsung S7...I don't want a big phone, nor to sell my kidneys for a phone.
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I'd prefer a multi-network phone (CDMA compatible), so the Pixel and Nexus 5X are the other phones I'm primarily considering. In comparison to the Sony it's not necessary to mess with the DRM for bootloader unlocks, and they have a lot of people using them. If I can get over the larger size, it's probably smarter for me to go in that direction, because I want updated stock Android with root. If I could get an S7 for cheap on Black Friday, I might consider one, because I greatly prefer the S7 hardware over the Pixel, but generally it's too locked down for what I really want in a phone. Since I'm coming from a Motorola that had an easy to unlock bootloader and a fair number of people using the phone, the Pixel is probably most in line with what I'm used to for software, but it's considerably larger than something like the X Compact.
I too upgraded from z5c to xc and was very surprised by this phone, it is absolutely amazing.
although I too must admit I was a little skeptical because of dumb reviews that only look at no of cpu cores, synthetic benchmarks and fails to research deeper and take in considerations like the never efficient cpu core's (A72) and next gen gpu that might also look weaker in benchmarks, does not seem so at all in real life, contrary it seems to offer the same (+Vulcan) at much lower battery use. this might be cause the design of the soc is better than the previous series and the first 64bit cortex (A57) is notorious for overheating and throttling back which also hurts the gpu. what do I know? I know I love the z5c but the xc does excel in every perspective speed, screen, insane battery life. etc.
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I too upgraded from z5c to xc and was very surprised by this phone, it is absolutely amazing.
although I too must admit I was a little skeptical because of dumb reviews that only look at no of cpu cores, synthetic benchmarks and fails to research deeper and take in considerations like the never efficient cpu core's (A72) and next gen gpu that might also look weaker in benchmarks, does not seem so at all in real life, contrary it seems to offer the same (+Vulcan) at much lower battery use. this might be cause the design of the soc is better than the previous series and the first 64bit cortex (A57) is notorious for overheating and throttling back which also hurts the gpu. what do I know? I know I love the z5c but the xc does excel in every perspective speed, screen, insane battery life. etc.
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Agree. I'll say it again.. The smoothness and speed of the phone is superior to all previous zcompact models. Not sure what Sony did but it seems very well optimized.
realtuxen said:
I too upgraded from z5c to xc and was very surprised by this phone, it is absolutely amazing.
although I too must admit I was a little skeptical because of dumb reviews that only look at no of cpu cores, synthetic benchmarks and fails to research deeper and take in considerations like the never efficient cpu core's (A72) and next gen gpu that might also look weaker in benchmarks, does not seem so at all in real life, contrary it seems to offer the same (+Vulcan) at much lower battery use. this might be cause the design of the soc is better than the previous series and the first 64bit cortex (A57) is notorious for overheating and throttling back which also hurts the gpu. what do I know? I know I love the z5c but the xc does excel in every perspective speed, screen, insane battery life. etc.
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Agree. I'll say it again.. The smoothness and speed of the phone is superior to all previous zcompact models. Not sure what Sony did but it seems very well optimized.
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What do you think of the battery? If you had the z5c, how is it compared to that based on your experience?
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What do you think of the battery? If you had the z5c, how is it compared to that?
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I never really check screen on times and all but honestly it's at LEAST on par with the z5c. I think the battery is more on par with the z3c as I thought that phone was better than its successor. I'm a VERY heavy user and have about 20 percent when I lay down to bed.
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I never really check screen on times and all but honestly it's at LEAST on par with the z5c. I think the battery is more on par with the z3c as I thought that phone was better than its successor. I'm a VERY heavy user and have about 20 percent when I lay down to bed.
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Wow, the XC's battery on par of the Z3C? I had the Z3C and loved it because of the battery. Thanks for the feedback!
The only pro's i see in the Z5c over the Xc is ability to root without losing TA, micro usb (C is too new, my otg flash drives dont work), and the lanyard hole. I'd almost rather go back to the Z3c with its magnetic charging port, that was such a great feature.
A couple of observations: 1) XC fingerprint scanner is MUCH faster and more accurate for me than Z5C fingerprint scanner. 2) plastic sides of XC are more grippy than Z5C.
I prefer XC over Z5c so far.
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So I found someone who's selling the XC and Z5C around the same price. Can I know some opinions now that some time has passed since you got the device? Is it worth upgrading from the Z3C? Thanks!
Z3c doesn't get updates anymore, so probably yes very soon, if not now.
Also for that reason, I prefer the newer device. Also, the fingerprint sensor on xc really is very good.
I upgraded from the Z3C to XC. Not sure how it compared to the Z5C, but it's quite a nice device. The XC is a tad bigger than the Z3C was in the hand, but still easy to be used one-handed for the most part. It's much faster and instantly responds to input. It also has similar battery life to the Z3C on Marshmallow (nothing will be able to match what Stamina did back in KitKat and Lollipop). I updated the XC to Nougat as soon as I bought it, so I can't say how it behaved on Marshmallow compared to the Z3C. It also comes at the right time for me to upgrade since the seal around the USB port cover was finally pulling off on my Z3C. Not having to mess with that anymore is a bonus.
However not everything is perfect. Bluetooth connectivity appears worse than it did on my Z3C. I don't know if this was the case in Marshmallow as well, but it's constantly disconnecting from my car while right next to the radio and my Z3C maintained a much stronger connection. I also lost the ability to use an app for streaming my screen to my car over USB and am not sure why. I've gotten around that by installing an Android Auto hack on the head unit that tends to work better overall, so it's not a total loss. USB-C also required all new USB cables, although this isn't as big an issue.
So it's a bit of a mixed bag. It's positive for the most part and if the bluetooth issues get resolved then I will be much happier.
people who have been using XC for a while (longer than 6 months or so): is there any signs of the structural deficiencies that plagued Z3C such as the screen detaching from the front (or back)? i'd appreciate any input on this.
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people who have been using XC for a while (longer than 6 months or so): is there any signs of the structural deficiencies that plagued Z3C such as the screen detaching from the front (or back)? i'd appreciate any input on this.
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Phone was released just over 3 months ago (end of September I think) so to soon to tell. I upgraded from my old Z1 Compact and haven't had any issues with the XC yet. Granted I have only had my XC for 2 1/2 months. That said I do work outdoors so my phones go through more abuse than what most people put theirs through. So far so good, time will tell.
What about XC vs Z5C camera?? I am undecided to buy... Please help.
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What about XC vs Z5C camera?? I am undecided to buy... Please help.
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That depends on whether you want to take 4K video or not. If the answer is "yes", then the Z5C is your only option. If you don't care about that, then you might want to consider the XC. I'm not a huge shutterbug, so I can't tell you how much better it is. It does seem to be faster than it was on my old Z3C and has a larger sensor (although it should be the same sensor for the Z5C). The video recorder also features that multi-sensor stabilization which is pretty cool. I just wish it also worked for still images. Still, it is an overall improvement if the lack of 4K doesn't bother you.
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That depends on whether you want to take 4K video or not. If the answer is "yes", then the Z5C is your only option. If you don't care about that, then you might want to consider the XC. I'm not a huge shutterbug, so I can't tell you how much better it is. It does seem to be faster than it was on my old Z3C and has a larger sensor (although it should be the same sensor for the Z5C). The video recorder also features that multi-sensor stabilization which is pretty cool. I just wish it also worked for still images. Still, it is an overall improvement if the lack of 4K doesn't bother you.
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Ok... I really appreciate your points of view, the 4K recording it doesn't matter to me, I'm just look after the best photos, I mean, color, resolution, withouth foggy efect or dragged photo :/ . I think XC is my final option!
Thanks!! :good:
I have used both since release and while I keep our z5c phones around (I collect Xperia phones) I have not gone back at all after being on X compact, which in my opinion is so perfect from user experience to in-hand feel , speed, and fluidity... with a greatly improved camera over its predecessors, that I actually end up using it far more than the larger Xz phones.
yeah I believe you because some days back I found someone that was willing to exchange his XZ with my XC without any money changed (because here XC is rare to find but not xz) and I didnt do it! as far as Im concerned X compact has the same 3 GBs of ram and the same speed and user experience and a much better screen size to be used in one hand