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A Few Magisk/Substratum Questions

I just recently did a full fastboot restore. In the past I've always used SuperSU, this time I went with Magisk. Glad I did because it's great. I love that you can fastboot boot TWRP and leave the system read-only and still flash Magisk. I have some Magisk questions that hopefully someone can clear up for me that Googling isn't making clear:
1: The option in Magisk's settings for Systemless Adblock Hosts - does enabling that work with the normal AdAway that you get from F-Droid? Or is that specifically for the Unified Ad Hosts module within Magisk?
2: Does using the normal AdAway break safety net & the ability to take an OTA down the road (if hosts & Magisk are removed)?
3: Does the Unified Ad Hosts module need to be used, or is the normal AdAway OK to use? Or is it that module intended to be used alongside AdAway?
4: I noticed a Greenify4Magisk module - does this module need to be installed in order to use Greenify? I'm used to systemless SuperSU which Greenify just worked. Looking for clarity on Greenify + Magisk.
5: Does using the Xposed Magisk Module allow for Gravity Box customization, that then can be reverted in order to take an OTA? Using the standard Xposed + Systemless SuperSU and removing it later would still leave traces behind that caused OTA's to fail, is the purpose of the dedicated Magisk Xposed modules to solve this issue?
6: (Not Magisk related): Does using a simple Substratum navbar theme (or any Substratum Legacy theme) & then removing it break OTA's? I like to change my navbar to the Pixel one, but still want to easily take the OTA when it arrives next century...

annoyingduck said:
I just recently did a full fastboot restore. In the past I've always used SuperSU, this time I went with Magisk. Glad I did because it's great. I love that you can fastboot boot TWRP and leave the system read-only and still flash Magisk. I have some Magisk questions that hopefully someone can clear up for me that Googling isn't making clear:
1: The option in Magisk's settings for Systemless Adblock Hosts - does enabling that work with the normal AdAway that you get from F-Droid? Or is that specifically for the Unified Ad Hosts module within Magisk?
2: Does using the normal AdAway break safety net & the ability to take an OTA down the road (if hosts & Magisk are removed)?
3: Does the Unified Ad Hosts module need to be used, or is the normal AdAway OK to use? Or is it that module intended to be used alongside AdAway?
4: I noticed a Greenify4Magisk module - does this module need to be installed in order to use Greenify? I'm used to systemless SuperSU which Greenify just worked. Looking for clarity on Greenify + Magisk.
5: Does using the Xposed Magisk Module allow for Gravity Box customization, that then can be reverted in order to take an OTA? Using the standard Xposed + Systemless SuperSU and removing it later would still leave traces behind that caused OTA's to fail, is the purpose of the dedicated Magisk Xposed modules to solve this issue?
6: (Not Magisk related): Does using a simple Substratum navbar theme (or any Substratum Legacy theme) & then removing it break OTA's? I like to change my navbar to the Pixel one, but still want to easily take the OTA when it arrives next century...
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I can answer a couple of these.
1) the add-on for adblocking in magisk is separate from adblock. You have to use a terminal app to update your HOSTS file.
4) Greenify works just fine without the module. To the best of my knowledge the module you are referring to is for using boost mode on Greenify, which basically allows apps you have hibernated with gcm functionality to still receive gcm push updates.

aybarrap1 said:
I can answer a couple of these.
1) the add-on for adblocking in magisk is separate from adblock. You have to use a terminal app to update your HOSTS file.
4) Greenify works just fine without the module. To the best of my knowledge the module you are referring to is for using boost mode on Greenify, which basically allows apps you have hibernated with gcm functionality to still receive gcm push updates.
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I was under the impression after reading up on ad away that the systemless hosts toggle in magisk handles ad away as well, and is not just for the ad blocking module with terminal emulator.
Ad away is ok to use and the module I believe the module is not needed. Magisk systemless hosts is compatible with ad away

1: The option in Magisk's settings for Systemless Adblock Hosts - does enabling that work with the normal AdAway that you get from F-Droid? Or is that specifically for the Unified Ad Hosts module within Magisk?
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Yes it works, fully compatible, does not trigger SafetyNet, no need for Unified Ad Hosts module.
2: Does using the normal AdAway break safety net & the ability to take an OTA down the road (if hosts & Magisk are removed)?
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It does break, it edit hosts files directly in system folder, use it with Magisk and systemless hosts enabled for SafetyNet certification
3: Does the Unified Ad Hosts module need to be used, or is the normal AdAway OK to use? Or is it that module intended to be used alongside AdAway?
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Normal AdAway if you have "systemless hosts" activated in Magisk Manager
4: I noticed a Greenify4Magisk module - does this module need to be installed in order to use Greenify? I'm used to systemless SuperSU which Greenify just worked. Looking for clarity on Greenify + Magisk.
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Not needed, it just enable the boost mode for Greenify without triggering SafetyNet
5: Does using the Xposed Magisk Module allow for Gravity Box customization, that then can be reverted in order to take an OTA? Using the standard Xposed + Systemless SuperSU and removing it later would still leave traces behind that caused OTA's to fail, is the purpose of the dedicated Magisk Xposed modules to solve this issue?
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It does (my own experience), but IT'S NOT THE PURPOSE OF DEDICATED MAGISK XPOSED TO SOLVE THIS ISSUE, but it solved for me. (of course you need android Marshmallow 6.x.x, Nougat 7.x.x does not have Xposed)
6: (Not Magisk related): Does using a simple Substratum navbar theme (or any Substratum Legacy theme) & then removing it break OTA's? I like to change my navbar to the Pixel one, but still want to easily take the OTA when it arrives next century...
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I'm not sure about this one '^^, but if it changes stuff in system folder will **** up the OTA.

@Spencervb256 Thanks. @dollarbr Thanks man, I like how you answer questions. You answer them the way I write them which automatically makes you a superior being . Thanks again.

annoyingduck said:
@Spencervb256 Thanks. @dollarbr Thanks man, I like how you answer questions. You answer them the way I write them which automatically makes you a superior being . Thanks again.
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No problem bro, for me, being answered is already good enough, the way the answer is presented is not a problem, since it does solve the problem, if you need anything else and i can answer just ask :good:

How to hide root from an app that blocks it?

TV streaming app blocks my device because it is rooted (for content protection reasons)
Is there a way to hide the root or at least turn it off quickly ?
btw, Magisk Hide is ON, I also tried "Hide Magisk Manager; repackage Magisk manager with random package name"
Thank you:good::fingers-crossed::good::laugh:

Check safetynet isn't broken in magisk.
Cts profile and integrity.
Do you have xposed?

alkesh95 said:
Check safetynet isn't broken in magisk.
Cts profile and integrity.
Do you have xposed?
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The results:
ctsProfile: true
basicIntegrity: true
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I don't remember I ever installed "xposed"
I use the default rom, I have magisk with a few models: android o APT-X libraries
Camera lag fix oreo
MI A1unified hosts adblock
viper4android FX
Youtube Vanced Magisk Repo

Share app link please.

alkesh95 said:
Share app link please.
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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=il.co.stingtv&hl=en
Not sure how useful the link is because only paid members can test it, the error is received only after trying to watch a stream

Gyro01 said:
TV streaming app blocks my device because it is rooted (for content protection reasons)
Is there a way to hide the root or at least turn it off quickly ?
btw, Magisk Hide is ON, I also tried "Hide Magisk Manager; repackage Magisk manager with random package name"
Thank you:good::fingers-crossed::good::laugh:
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Try this:
from the hamburger menu go to Magisk Hide and select the app you want to hide from the list.

sipollo said:
Try this:
from the hamburger menu go to Magisk Hide and select the app you want to hide from the list.
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@Gyro01 you haven't done this?

sipollo said:
Try this:
from the hamburger menu go to Magisk Hide and select the app you want to hide from the list.
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alkesh95 said:
@Gyro01 you haven't done this?
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I already tried it and it failed, even after enable before opening the app in the first time I still got the error.. maybe the app stores a file on my phone once it detected it is rooted?

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Same issue

Some apps (eg. banking, android pay) will not run if the bootloader is unlocked.

Gyro01 said:
TV streaming app blocks my device because it is rooted (for content protection reasons)
Is there a way to hide the root or at least turn it off quickly ?
btw, Magisk Hide is ON, I also tried "Hide Magisk Manager; repackage Magisk manager with random package name"
Thank you:good::fingers-crossed::good::laugh:
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Did you hide Google framework and Google playstore prior to installing the app?? If not, uninstall the app and try it once.

2 years later, 2 android versions ahead and i have the same damn issue, with another streaming app. Have you found any solution?

What is more powerful than Magisk Hide for hiding root from apps?

I have a few banking/government apps that seem to be quite smart - even Magisk Hide cannot hide the fact that device is rooted. Is there another more "powerful" app that does the same thing?

anyone please?

Have you tried using the magisk module called "magiskhide Prop config" ? Supposedly better for hiring root?
Also if you give examples of the apps you're using that may be more helpful

dylansmith said:
I have a few banking/government apps that seem to be quite smart - even Magisk Hide cannot hide the fact that device is rooted. Is there another more "powerful" app that does the same thing?
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After hiding app in magisk have you cleared data and cache for the apps.
Try using a root checking app (I am using root beer at the moment) to check root status
Do you pass safety net
Another possibility since you mention government apps is it might picking up the fact that your Knox is tripped.

hiding root from barclays banking app

Just wondering if it's possible to hide root from the bar lays banking app - whenever I tried a while back it wouldn't work, just wondered if it's possible now? Thanks

MartinEv1980 said:
Just wondering if it's possible to hide root from the bar lays banking app - whenever I tried a while back it wouldn't work, just wondered if it's possible now? Thanks
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pass safety net and magisk hide the app, should work

for all banking app
clear cash and data for app
magisk hide for the app
hide magisk in setting
REBOOT
it should work (unless some apps blacklist your device you have to do a factory reset)

Magisk attestation/safteynet failed

Hi, magisk was passing saftey net. I installed magisk 21.2 with twrp and it says its installed. Installed Magisk hide and hid all Google apps and I think it changed the devices fingerprint in the install log. But no luck. Any ideas?
Miui 12.0.5 global

Vanmanman said:
Hi, magisk was passing saftey net. I installed magisk 21.2 with twrp and it says its installed. Installed Magisk hide and hid all Google apps and I think it changed the devices fingerprint in the install log. But no luck. Any ideas?
Miui 12.0.5 global
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You just need to enable Magisk hide option in Magisk Manager (nothing specially to install for), and the required activity for GooglebPlay Services to hide will be already checked-in. You don't need to check in manually the other Google apps (and better you don't)
All that does not change device fingerprint or any prop.
If you really want to change props (incl. device fingerprint), use Magisk Hide Props Config (MHPC), find its XDA thread with the Guide in OP post (and more detailed guide on its Github)
And I don't see any problem ("no luck"?!) on your screenshot.
If SafetyNet is passing, better don't change any props/fingerprints - specially, before playing with, carefully study Magisk Wiki and MHPC Guide from Github

zgfg said:
You just need to enable Magisk hide option in Magisk Manager (nothing specially to install for), and the required activity for GooglebPlay Services to hide will be already checked-in. You don't need to check in manually the other Google apps (and better you don't)
All that does not change device fingerprint or any prop.
If you really want to change props (incl. device fingerprint), use Magisk Hide Props Config (MHPC), find its XDA thread with the Guide in OP post (and more detailed guide on its Github)
And I don't see any problem ("no luck"?!) on your screenshot.
If SafetyNet is passing, better don't change any props/fingerprints - specially, before playing with, carefully study Magisk Wiki and MHPC Guide from Github
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Hi, Thanks for the reply.
I reinstalled to go back to default magisk settings. I have Magiskhide enabled. But for instance. The macdonalds app when redeeming an offer will say "security check failed". Also playstore cant see netflix and some other apps anymore with new version of magisk. I used magisk to pass safteynet to do that before, or it was doing that before but its not passing safteynet with 21.2 magisk now
I tried using MagiskHide Props Config to change the devices finger print but attestation keeps failing

Vanmanman said:
Hi, Thanks for the reply.
I reinstalled to go back to default magisk settings. I have Magiskhide enabled. But for instance. The macdonalds app when redeeming an offer will say "security check failed". Also playstore cant see netflix and some other apps anymore with new version of magisk. I used magisk to pass safteynet to do that before, or it was doing that before but its not passing safteynet with 21.2 magisk now
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On Magisk Github find Wiki, there is the whole chapter devoted to the problems how certain apps detect root and tips how you can try to prevent
But it's a constant game of mice and cat - you may fix it for now (for some of those apps), but a newer version of that app may explore a new methods to again detect the root
As the minimum, enlist the given apps to the Magisk hide list.
Also, take Hide Magisk Manager and rename it - it may help (some apps look if Magisk Manager is installed).
Remove TWRP folder (some look for that) - read the Wiki, try all the tips suggested there
Btw, are you passing SafetyNet or no. First you must make sure to pass (my comments above are about that even if you pass SsfetyNet, that there are still apps that declare that phone is rooted, by taking other checks and methodes).
So, Msgisk Hide must be enabled.
If its still not passing SafetyNet, take a screenshot - does it pass Basic Integrity or not, does it show taking Basic or Hardware eval type for CTS
Some Magisk modules may also cause SafetyNet to fail. Disable all modules, reboot and try again
These are all important details, not just SN is failing or some app detects root...

thanks will do. Gave them a go and now trying changing my devices finger print. Just cant get attestation/basicintegrity or cts profile to pass. Only have magisk hide propconfig module @zgfg

See again my previous post - I've edited/added some details

I enabled magisk hide. Changed magisk name. Changed every fingerprint and simulation of device I could but still get this

I checked magisk hide with a root checker and its working with that. So somethings working. Cant find the magisk github wiki but finding lots of other stuff to try to get saftey net passing. Just no luck yet

trying to install HiddenCore Module from Xposed but the manager is saying xposed framework is not installed even though I've have Riru core and tried both frameworks. All this stuff worked before on my phone before the new magisk update or googles updated something maybe

had to install framework via TWRP. Got HiddenCore Module going and safety net check pass!!! However still cant redeem offers with macas because of security check fail. Wonder what there looking for now. Removed everything before and just hid with magisk but they must have updated. Also cant see my netflix in google play like i used to