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Verizon Galaxy Tab 7.7 LTE

I just saw the review on slashgear and it shows Mali400MP as the GPU and clock speed of 1.4Ghz
LTE and Exynos?

ph00ny said:
I just saw the review on slashgear and it shows Mali400MP as the GPU and clock speed of 1.4Ghz
LTE and Exynos?
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So claims Samsung.

teiglin said:
So claims Samsung.
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i guess that blows the whole exynos not able to support LTE service out the door
Btw, it comes with an IR port just like the 7.0+
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-tab-7-7-lte-review-04216701/

Sounds fishy now that Samsung was claiming LTE was not compatible with the Exynos 4210.. Now i'm thinking Samsung has been lying this entire time and opting for the cheap Qualcomm S3 chips that are about half the power of their Exynos just to make easy cash.
Sketchy sketchy Samsung, shame shame.

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Sounds fishy now that Samsung was claiming LTE was not compatible with the Exynos 4210.. Now i'm thinking Samsung has been lying this entire time and opting for the cheap Qualcomm S3 chips that are about half the power of their Exynos just to make easy cash.
Sketchy sketchy Samsung, shame shame.
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I'd love a source link, or reliable citation of any kind, for that claim. I've read a lot of speculation that Exynos wasn't compatible with LTE, but it's always been just that--speculation. It's probably some combination of larger chassis in the 7.7 and its higher cost, where in phones it was both cheaper and easier to just use Qualcomm's chipset with integrated LTE baseband.

So does it mean its a better tab considering that it has LTE and exynos , you can always use voip for voice plus it has an IR blaster.

mywingtophone said:
So does it mean its a better tab considering that it has LTE and exynos , you can always use voip for voice plus it has an IR blaster.
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That's the million dollar question. Well 1) is the LTE 7.7 BETTER? 2) What are it's restrictions/compatibility issues....

teiglin said:
I'd love a source link, or reliable citation of any kind, for that claim. I've read a lot of speculation that Exynos wasn't compatible with LTE, but it's always been just that--speculation. It's probably some combination of larger chassis in the 7.7 and its higher cost, where in phones it was both cheaper and easier to just use Qualcomm's chipset with integrated LTE baseband.
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I can't remember where it was originally stated or where I saw it, but EVERY single Samsung LTE equipped phone that originally came with Exynos ended up with a craptastic Qualcomm S3 chip instead. And it's been common knowledge that the reason was Samsung stated LTE was not compatible with Exynos.
So if the solution is to run a seperate LTE chip + Exynos, sounds like the Verizon LTE 7.7 could be a horrible battery sucker then :/

Diversion said:
I can't remember where it was originally stated or where I saw it, but EVERY single Samsung LTE equipped phone that originally came with Exynos ended up with a craptastic Qualcomm S3 chip instead. And it's been common knowledge that the reason was Samsung stated LTE was not compatible with Exynos.
So if the solution is to run a seperate LTE chip + Exynos, sounds like the Verizon LTE 7.7 could be a horrible battery sucker then :/
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I went to pick one up from the local Verizon store and it's sold out. 0 stock in nyc.
Demo unit was snappy. Noticeably snappier than the 10.1
IR port is definitely there
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I'd like to pick one up - but I don't want to be under contract, so looks like I'll have to shell out $699+tax for one.
Also, it doesn't look like the USA will be getting a Wifi-only variant any time soon. By then Exynos2 will probably be in other tablets.
It's a gamble buying one of these right now due to only getting 14 days to return it to Verizon (plus the $35 restocking fee).

Diversion said:
I can't remember where it was originally stated or where I saw it, but EVERY single Samsung LTE equipped phone that originally came with Exynos ended up with a craptastic Qualcomm S3 chip instead. And it's been common knowledge that the reason was Samsung stated LTE was not compatible with Exynos.
So if the solution is to run a seperate LTE chip + Exynos, sounds like the Verizon LTE 7.7 could be a horrible battery sucker then :/
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Are you sure you're not confusing the Exynos with the Tegra3 processors?

Diversion said:
I'd like to pick one up - but I don't want to be under contract, so looks like I'll have to shell out $699+tax for one.
Also, it doesn't look like the USA will be getting a Wifi-only variant any time soon. By then Exynos2 will probably be in other tablets.
It's a gamble buying one of these right now due to only getting 14 days to return it to Verizon (plus the $35 restocking fee).
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Exynos 5 series isn't supposed to be out until mid year probably with the high res galaxy tab 11.6

Paten said:
Are you sure you're not confusing the Exynos with the Tegra3 processors?
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He's right
all the LTE version of previously exynos devices came out with snapdragon. Same goes for high speed HSPA
AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket
AT&T Galaxy Note
Galaxy Tab 10.1/8.9 LTE
Tmo Galaxy S2

ph00ny said:
He's right
all the LTE version of previously exynos devices came out with snapdragon. Same goes for high speed HSPA
AT&T Galaxy S2 Skyrocket
AT&T Galaxy Note
Galaxy Tab 10.1/8.9 LTE
Tmo Galaxy S2
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Specifically only LTE Samsung phones swapped out the Exynos for Snapdragons.
Galaxy S2 on both ATT and Sprint still kept the Exynos intact. The LTE variants unfortunately lost Exynos due to LTE.
So it IS possible that given enough room inside a device, it can be fitted with Exynos AND a independant LTE chip.. and this is why the LTE phones couldn't be Exynos + LTE, not enough room perhaps.

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Haha
Read the article found out that 7.7 LTE comes with exynos
Called around a bunch of stores after the MRI
on my way home, score
I'm now a proud owner of 7.7 LTE

My new daily driver next to the current daily driver

Diversion said:
I'd like to pick one up - but I don't want to be under contract, so looks like I'll have to shell out $699+tax for one.
Also, it doesn't look like the USA will be getting a Wifi-only variant any time soon. By then Exynos2 will probably be in other tablets.
It's a gamble buying one of these right now due to only getting 14 days to return it to Verizon (plus the $35 restocking fee).
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Why not just import the WiFi-only version from Negri Electronics? Hell of a lot cheaper than shelling out $700+tax for an off-contract VZW version...
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ph00ny said:
My new daily driver next to the current daily driver
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So, what do you do about phone calls if your VZW 7.7 is your daily driver?
My P6800 is my daily driver. When a phone call comes in, I answer it, on the 7.7 (via Bluetooth of course!).
1 device. Does it all. Love it!

Question for any of the Verizon LTE 7.7 owners: is your LTE performance any good? I get good speed test results, but when I try and web-browse, it takes 20 seconds or more to get from one page to another. It's really frustrating.

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Question for any of the Verizon LTE 7.7 owners: is your LTE performance any good? I get good speed test results, but when I try and web-browse, it takes 20 seconds or more to get from one page to another. It's really frustrating.
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Im actually getting great performance with the tab. Much better than nexus. Don't forget, when you're on Verizon 3g, expect it to be dog slow
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I will cry if the Snapdragon Variant is not available in Europe !!!

Hey Guys,
I am currently using the S6 and I hate this damn piece of S*** because the phone reception and call quality is conclusively terrible compared to other devices that are using the Snapdragon Processor Variant.
Don't tell me it's not true because I have tested it. RECEPTION WITH EXYNOS PRROCESSORS IS TERRIBLE - PERIOD.
I want the Snapdragon and I am really hoping it will be available in Europe. What if it isn't? can I still by the Snapdragon and will it work on the LTE bands in Europe? Any known disadvantages?
I'd love to hear your words.

Contacted Samsung France today ... It's sadly true ... No custom ROMs for us ..

That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
There is no doubt at all that the Exynos variant has a significantly worse LTE Radio and for that I will simply buy the G5 after 8 YEARS OF SAMSUNG ONLY.
It's enough suffering with this crap reception, dropped and missed calls! Worthless Samsung - FAIL
NEVER AGAIN.

I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??

sayou94 said:
I live in europe and I hate exynos chipset too. Any solution to import snapdragon version??
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Most likely ebay.com, i doubt tmobile will ship one to you.

I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?

sayou94 said:
I think i will do that. Thank you, you think it will be better than exynos version for developement for sure?
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But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.

peachpuff said:
But development of what? The exynos will have plenty of roms being made for it, except they'll most likely be based on the stock touchwiz rom. If you want aosp then you'll want the snapdragon version. But the s6 currently has an aosp being developed for it, so that will most likely be available on the s7 too in the future.
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I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made ?)

h2o64 said:
I'm from AOSPARADOX and believe me that if I got my hands on a S7 you'll see my ROM poping (trees for S7 are made )
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You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:

sayou94 said:
You will develop AOSP rom for s7 exynos?
AOSP rom developped by a french compatriot, it will be perfect :good:
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Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820

h2o64 said:
Nope but I'll do for a SD820. Believe me, I can put hundreds more in, but I need a SD820
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Need an SD820 variant

clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...

I found some on eBay but it's 1k€
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That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.

dew.man said:
clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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You might want to check which model this actually is prior to purchasing. Global version G395F does not have Snapdragon meaning they're likely selling an Overpriced G395T.

exxi said:
That is indeed sad but what's even more sad ais that the Exynos Variant sucks even more with cellphone reception. I had the Nexus 6P Snapdragon 810 for a few days and MAN you won't believe how much stronger the reception was.
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So, to confirm, you had superior reception on a completely different phone from a completely different manufacturer and you automatically put it down to the chipset?

So anyone has a idea about how getting SD820 in Europe without paying 900€+ ?

dew.man said:
clove.co.uk is selling unlocked UK S7 and the specs show sd820. Might be a typo, but worth looking into...
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I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly

MiNoOo said:
I contacted Clove.co.uk and they confirmed that they don't have SD820 version and they updated the website accordingly
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EBay is the only way..

mathieulh said:
That LTE modem on the Exynos 8890 isn't that bad (hell it's actually not bad at all). Granted the SD820's baseband is better than it's competition, but the Exynos 8890's baseband is nothing to cry about.
Keep in mind that this is not the Exynos 7420 SOC used in the Galaxy S6/S6 Edge phones.
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Thanks, that's good news. Where did you get that information. I'm okay with the Exynos processor as it is but I know that the lte modem on the s6 is terrible. What's the best way to find out how the reception of the Exynos variant stacks up against the snapdragon variant ?
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Heed help with buying snapdragon s7 edge.

Hi. Im living in Russia and there are only exynos variant available. After using rather bad exynos note 4 (overheat, bad reception, 3g/4g battery drain, poor aosp development) i decided to buy snapdragon variant of s7 edge. I believe samsung is using superior versions of their handsets in key markets such as NA and China. But for my surprise all s7 edge sold in USA are carrier bound. My question are there unlocked s7 edge snapdragon? What carrier should i choose? Will at-t and t-mobile phones work with other gsm carriers around the world. Also i need no carrier bloatware and unlocked bootloader. As for network i need band 20 800Mhz and band 7 2600Mhz.
Thanks in advance.

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Hi. Im living in Russia and there are only exynos variant available. After using rather bad exynos note 4 (overheat, bad reception, 3g/4g battery drain, poor aosp development) i decided to buy snapdragon variant of s7 edge. I believe samsung is using superior versions of their handsets in key markets such as NA and China. But for my surprise all s7 edge sold in USA are carrier bound. My question are there unlocked s7 edge snapdragon? What carrier should i choose? Will at-t and t-mobile phones work with other gsm carriers around the world. Also i need no carrier bloatware and unlocked bootloader. As for network i need band 20 800Mhz and band 7 2600Mhz.
Thanks in advance.
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None of the U.S. devices cover band 7 nor 20 i guess, those bands aren't used over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Also, normally carrier locked devices won't work for other carriers unless you hack (was not possible at recent devices afaik) it or pay for unlocking it. But you could be lucky there at the s7 with it locking just at first boot. It could be, that it'll lock to your carrier instead of the one you bought it from, but you'll have to verify that it works before, also it'll only work, if it never has been booted by any employ at the carrier you bought it to ship it locked already.

Tectas said:
None of the U.S. devices cover band 7 nor 20 i guess, those bands aren't used over there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks_in_Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
Also, normally carrier locked devices won't work for other carriers unless you hack (was not possible at recent devices afaik) it or pay for unlocking it. But you could be lucky there at the s7 with it locking just at first boot. It could be, that it'll lock to your carrier instead of the one you bought it from, but you'll have to verify that it works before, also it'll only work, if it never has been booted by any employ at the carrier you bought it to ship it locked already.
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I saw people importing note 4 sm-910c to USA because its compatible with US lte frequences Same model sold in Russia. I think device itself can support this frequnces though they are not used there.

I'd wait before presuming the Snapdragon model will be superior to the Exynos, especially in terms of things like overheat and reception. It's certainly possible it will be the better option, but there is no guarantee yet. And especially with the debacle on the 810, Snapdragon haven't exactly covered themselves in glory recently.
Hardly anyone has the Exynos model yet, whilst there are a lot of T-Mobile customers in the US who have the Snapdragon, some of who are reporting being unable to use the VR headset for more than 30 minutes without the phone complaining of overheat. Wait until next week and there will be proper comparison reviews that go beyond Snapdragon having a few extra meaningless numbers on some benchmark. That's when an informed decision can be made as to whether it's worth going through the bother of buying your device out of territory and forsaking the manufacturer guarantee.

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I'd wait before presuming the Snapdragon model will be superior to the Exynos, especially in terms of things like overheat and reception. It's certainly possible it will be the better option, but there is no guarantee yet. And especially with the debacle on the 810, Snapdragon haven't exactly covered themselves in glory recently.
Hardly anyone has the Exynos model yet, whilst there are a lot of T-Mobile customers in the US who have the Snapdragon, some of who are reporting being unable to use the VR headset for more than 30 minutes without the phone complaining of overheat. Wait until next week and there will be proper comparison reviews that go beyond Snapdragon having a few extra meaningless numbers on some benchmark. That's when an informed decision can be made as to whether it's worth going through the bother of buying your device out of territory and forsaking the manufacturer guarantee.
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Good point. I bother buying snapdragon mostly because of lower TDP and better 4g reception in past models. If exynos become equal in this areas i see no point in importing. And i dont wanna wait long cause if i preorder before 18 march i will get free gear vr though i dont need it xD

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Note 4 have both sd and exynos variants. Its note 5 only nave exynos.

TANKRED_ENDURES said:
Note 4 have both sd and exynos variants. Its note 5 only nave exynos.
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Yes, that's why I've removed the post, mixed the numbering, sorry.
But if you take a look, at least here aren't any of those bands supported at the U.S. variants.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/detailed-sm-g935-s7-info-t3326180

But what about carrier software? I heard some carriers replace stock samsung apps like browser. Also is it true what at-t and tmobile phones recieve updates later than their unlocked counterparts?

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But what about carrier software? I heard some carriers replace stock samsung apps like browser. Also is it true what at-t and tmobile phones recieve updates later than their unlocked counterparts?
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Would be the first time I hear something like the browser replaced by a carrier, but maybe possible, in common they just add stuff though and make small changes (modem, bootscreen,...). And yes, carrier devices in common get updates later, because the carriers have to incorporate their changes (which can be a few days to months, depends on the carrier), but at the european variants we're lucky with stock roms at least (or at least have been). In most cases you simply can flash a unbranded rom there through odin without second thought.

S8 + Processor and Unbox Event

Why wasn't there been no information about Chipset that is being used at S8 / S8+? Does anybody have any idea what is the chip that will be shipped globally? (Snapdragon 835 or Exynos). Nonetheless, the unpacked event was not so exciting as I expected. There is nothing much to say other than Screen ratio, Bixby and Dex.
Were you really as excited as you though earlier? Did Samsung fulfilled your expectation.

They said we made a new 10nm processor so it's obviously the Exynos, they didnt mention snapdragon so i guess it will be like the S6 with exynos only, maybe.

SM-G950F/FD/N, SM-G955F/FD/N aka International and Korean will be the Exynos 8895
G950U/0 and G955U/0 + US variants will be the Snapdragon 835

Most likely we're gonna get the SD835 version. At least that's what Mobilesyrup said.

Soufiansky said:
They said we made a new 10nm processor so it's obviously the Exynos, they didnt mention snapdragon so i guess it will be like the S6 with exynos only, maybe.
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They also manufactured the sd835 , which is also 10nm processor
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LinS123 said:
Most likely we're gonna get the SD835 version. At least that's what Mobilesyrup said.
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If the note 7 and s7 trend continues yep.bootloader probably locked again also.
Which means most of us will end up with an international Exynos model lol.
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What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe.

happy2472 said:
What should we order an international model or us. Yes im verizon and us. Only reason i ask ... i have the note 4 and the roms are mostly f and g variant which are india and europe.
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Samsung international phones don't work on Verizon.

always found it odd that the USA still hold on the less deployed cdma networks. they need to go GSM all the way!

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always found it odd that the USA still hold on the less deployed cdma networks. they need to go GSM all the way!
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Actually they are. Sprint and Verizon only use CDMA for fallback and voice for now. There lte is gsm and once volte gets widespread enough CDMA will be shut down and refarmed for lte.

People often ask if you should get exynos or snapdragon - now we know, EXYNOS!

always go for exynos. it's samsung's in house processor and free from all the carrier bull**** that marginalize the great smartphone experience and you get all the coverage and bands that you will need. ****ing sick of this 1% bull****!!

always choose exynos. if you choose the snapdragon, you made a dumb decision

You can't get the exnyos in the US. Even if you order it from Amazon or eBay you don't have warranty and you have to pay full price. Not to mention the that exnyos chip doesn't run games smoothly.

AT&Tsucks said:
You can't get the exnyos in the US. Even if you order it from Amazon or eBay you don't have warranty and you have to pay full price. Not to mention the that exnyos chip doesn't run games smoothly.
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ah, **** there's always a catch!!

Just get whichever region you're from. No point importing a specific SOC, and then risk not having local warranties.

people often ask, why people write crap on the internet - now I know!!

Also half the major us carriers straight up dont work on the exynos.
That being said, if i purchase another samsung device it will be one with an unlocked bootloader. Whether exynos, or a snapdragon from hongkong/china, i dont know. But unlocked or bust

i dont get it, the s6 worked perfectly in the us, and still has great preformance due to the exynos chip, but now we are stuck with the slow 835 on some devices, and samsung wont make a much faster chip just for EU. thanks i guess

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Also half the major us carriers straight up dont work on the exynos.
That being said, if i purchase another samsung device it will be one with an unlocked bootloader. Whether exynos, or a snapdragon from hongkong/china, i dont know. But unlocked or bust
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Should work on ATT and Tmobile right? Verizon is an issue due to CDMA

BozQ said:
Just get whichever region you're from. No point importing a specific SOC, and then risk not having local warranties.
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If you order from clove they will help you out with warranty, just have to send it back to them and they'll send it to samsung.
Anyone notice a delay in posting? I don't see my post until 5 minutes later.

AT&Tsucks said:
the that exnyos chip doesn't run games smoothly.
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First I've heard of this. Details?
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Also half the major us carriers straight up dont work on the exynos.
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Details? I my research into bands showed that AT&T should work just fine except for band 30 which isn't a big deal since it's so new and limited deployment, by the time I see it in my area I'll probably be on a new phone.

I'm not a big gamer - clash royale runs fine on my Exynos S8 and VERY cool too. My Snapdragon S7 got hot as heck with clash royale. Battery life on the Exynos S8 is great from my experience.

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First I've heard of this. Details?
Details? I my research into bands showed that AT&T should work just fine except for band 30 which isn't a big deal since it's so new and limited deployment, by the time I see it in my area I'll probably be on a new phone.
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Half the major us carriers use cdma. Exynos phones do not support cdma at all. At least one major us carrier possesses no gsm frequencies whatsoever, so you can not just use lte only as there is no way to register on the network without a cdma radio. You might be able to use vzw as they are pushing lte hard and i think have a way to register without cdma, but they also lock down what phones they allow on their network, so you may find they just say no altogether

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Half the major us carriers use cdma. Exynos phones do not support cdma at all. At least one major us carrier possesses no gsm frequencies whatsoever, so you can not just use lte only as there is no way to register on the network without a cdma radio. You might be able to use vzw as they are pushing lte hard and i think have a way to register without cdma, but they also lock down what phones they allow on their network, so you may find they just say no altogether
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I'm on AT&T, so I really don't care that the phone I buy doesn't support CDMA. CMDA sucks in Canada, which I got to several times a month. And the convenience of SIM cards is huge.

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I'm on AT&T, so I really don't care that the phone I buy doesn't support CDMA. CMDA sucks in Canada, which I got to several times a month. And the convenience of SIM cards is huge.
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