Related
Hi all,
I am very new user of android g1 phone so i would like to ask you sum silly questions :
1. How to know that my google g1 phone is rooted ( I bought it from ebay ).
2. How to install / download sweeter home ..
thanx in advance
If it has an app called Superuser Whitelist installed then it is definitely rooted. If not, you need to get an app from the market called Terminal Emulator. Open it and type getprop ro.secure . If the response is 0 then you are rooted. Otherwise you are not rooted.
To install apps, just open the Market. You can search by name at any time by pressing the keyboard search button (looks like a magnifying glass).
thanx jashsu for reply , there is no any application installed called Superuser Whitelist in my phone and as per your advise i installed Terminal emulator , response is 1, that means my phone is not rooted right ???? suggest me what is difference between rooted or non rooted phone, what can i do with rooted phones , plz....
writeonthis said:
thanx jashsu for reply , there is no any application installed called Superuser Whitelist in my phone and as per your advise i installed Terminal emulator , response is 1, that means my phone is not rooted right ???? suggest me what is difference between rooted or non rooted phone, what can i do with rooted phones , plz....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Koush's sticky (link below) describes why and how to gain root. I would suggest you only perform it if you are confident in your proficiency with computers and following computing-related instructions. If the notion that you might disable your phone for some unknown reason and not be able to instantly restore it worries you, then do not root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
thanx again one more problem i am facing is whenever i start camera it shows please insert sd card before using the camera , but when i go sd card and memory option there it shows sd card space is 968 mb that means sd card is inside, Whats wrong with my phone please suggest
Hm. Give this a shot:
1. Connect G1 to computer
2. Mount the sd card (on G1)
3. Copy the contents of the /Camera folder to computer
4. Delete the /Camera folder
5. Dismount the sd card (on the computer)
6. Unplug G1
After that try your Camera app again. If it doesn't work, check another app that uses the sd card, like the Music app.
Just to tip you off, don't know if this has been fixed yet, but when I rooted my phone around 2 months ago, the RC29 image didn't work... in fact it bricked my phone causing it to go straight to the bootloader no matter what, I had to find another source to download the RC29 to get it to work, and following that rooting went smooth (telnet part was a bit rough) and now its great!
Welcome to the world of the Android
Thanx 2 all, finally i formatted my card and its working properly even in camera , thanx again
IN MY INFINITE WISDOM, I replaced my build.prop with the one from a Motorola Xoom in an attempt to get Sketchbook Pro to show up in the market. Now my tablet is boot looping.
I backed the original up in the same directory, as build.prop.OLD. If I could mount system and replace the file with a PC, I'd imagine that the tablet would work again. How could I do that?
However, THERE IS ANOTHER COMPLICATION! I used the 'Acer Phone Disabler' app to remove the telephony drivers, which means that I cannot flash a rom or the tablet will brick. I'm not sure what this means for Nandroid backups.
The tablet has the leaked stock 3.1 rom installed, it's rooted, and it has Clockworkmod recovery.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Oh god.
I used ADB to pull my build.prop.OLD, renamed it to build.prop, and pushed it back. Now... the tablet boots up, and it shows the Android "Welcome" screen. Clicking the only button available doesn't work. It just highlights as if it is selected, and doesn't do anything when I lift my finger up.
I DO have a Nandroid backup from several weeks ago of the same rom, but from BEFORE I removed the telephony drivers. I am only going to try restoring it as a last resort; does anyone have any ideas? Remember, flashing a rom would result in a brick because I used Acer Phone Disabler. Is a nandroid backup safe?
Thanks guys. I'm really hoping this tablet isn't too screwed.
I'm hoping someone else chimes in here but I am under the impressing that the nandroid backup would override any changes you could make as long as you don't break recovery. As far as my experience goes if you had a backup of your current configuration you could do an "advanced restore" and only restore your "system"
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Restoring just system worked! My homescreen is back to stock but all my apps are still installed, so I don't really care. Thanks a bunch, I was so worried.
COOL!!!
Glad I could help.
Sent from my A500 using Tapatalk
Help needed for a boot loop
Well as said in the video, i reuse an existing thread about bootloop...
I'm stuck in a bootloop with an iconia A500... but let's look at the steps that got me there...
The First mistake was to answer yes to my friend who asked me to connect his Vodafone k3565 to his iconia A500, but as i read Android was linux based and i did use linux a lot as a student, i didn't even imagine it could go wrong...
Tablet was stating to run :
Android 3.1
Bernel 2.6.36.3-00009-9dddf6f2
Build 4.015.05-EMEA-CUS3
i did root with iconia root 1.3
then added Busybox and a terminal program.
reboot, try a SU and could access the devices
Here is the second mistake... i should have wondered how to restore to normal state before starting, because i don't have any SD card that suit the device ( mine are normal sized ones, you know.. Stamp sized :/ )
Then i got to the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058846&page=7
and i used an usb key to transfer it to the device, but before applying the files i took a look to them and found 3 of them would overwrite actual system files, so i did a backup of them :
/system/build.prop
/system/etc/apns-conf
/system/bin/rild
and looking at the build.prop i saw differences in the values of the one on the A500 and the one in the package so i decided to get only the missing lines from the new system.zip file and add them to the original file
And here is the 3rd mistake, and i guess the reason of the problem : i did that merge on a windows computer, and i fear it did add those pesky CRLF at the end of lines, turning my build.prop into a build.prob(lem).
I'm not sure, as i didn't check before it was too late.
rebooted and... boot loop, with 1 times out of 2, the little android with yellow triangle and exclamaition mark.
Cried, runned in circles, then looked on forums to find a solution.
Reboot with Power+Volume gives :
"Erasing cache before SD update...
SD update cmd:recovery
--update_package=sdcard:update.zip
Booting recovery kernel image"
Then i get the android with gears for a few seconds, then below him is a bar like the one in the android store when you download a file, then half a second later, again the exclaimation mark.
I also tried plugging a keyboard to hit the home key...
( in fact two : Logitech G110 and trust easy scroll silverline )
no difference, maybe because those are gaming keyboards and they arent loaded soon enough by the tab, or maybe it crashes before keyboard loading.
Tried then to install ADB using post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155664
hoping i could use the USB cable to put the backup files back in place but when i plug the device into the windows host, it recognises an unavailable USB MTP device, whose properties say "Acer iconia tab a500" in the "signaled bus description"(translated from french display, may be something else in english)
I manually force added the Acer ADB interface, but both the devices are unavailable to windows, with a warning sign, stating "this device cannot start (code 10)"
"Adb shell" answers "Error:device not found",which is expected, as windows can't see the devices properly
the strange thing is that, with USB plugged from A500 to PC, the Android with exclaimation stays forever, while without the cable, the system boot-loops
so i'm at this point :
i have a boot looping device, and the backup of the modified files on an USB key, and no way to put them back on device.
I found on the forums a lot of different .imgs that could be put on the /system to reload the device but none with EMEA-CUS3. So if i overwrite the files, i can't go back
I read you need a SD card to patch the device but not all of them work...
And my only computer with a SD slot uses a big one, not micro one, so i also need an adapter to write on the sd card.
Is someone near me (belgium/postcode 4000) having a SD ward working with the device who could lend it or help me doing the job ?
else
i saw in a nearby store ad "Sigma SDHC 4Go" or "Sigma SDHC 8Go", with apparently an adaptor for a normal sized SD slot, can anyone confirm it works or it don't work for sure ?
else
Can anyone tell me an SD card know to work, and being sold currently with an adapter so i have a chance to find one in a store near me ?
Is there a way to create an update.zip that will only update the files i did overwrite ?
if not, has someone an image for the same system i have ?
Well... lots of questions, but i'm very worried, especially as the device is not mine and not working anymore atm.
-> update
Looking closer at the modem (Vodafone k3565) it has a trap that says "SD card" so i guess i won't need an adapter... still need the reference of a SD card known to work for the restoring.
[bump] and more :
this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=834144
lists working SD cards, but don't tell with which device. i'd take the guess it applies to the iconia A500 and take the list to the shop to see if anyone is available...
Did you install the Acer USB driver, found here? http://www.acer.co.uk/ac/en/GB/content/drivers
You might need to go into device manager after installing and right click/update drivers on the tablet, then manually direct it to the Acer driver folder. That's what I did, then ADB worked.
Haemdaer said:
Well as said in the video, i reuse an existing thread about bootloop...
I'm stuck in a bootloop with an iconia A500... but let's look at the steps that got me there...
The First mistake was to answer yes to my friend who asked me to connect his Vodafone k3565 to his iconia A500, but as i read Android was linux based and i did use linux a lot as a student, i didn't even imagine it could go wrong...
Tablet was stating to run :
Android 3.1
Bernel 2.6.36.3-00009-9dddf6f2
Build 4.015.05-EMEA-CUS3
i did root with iconia root 1.3
then added Busybox and a terminal program.
reboot, try a SU and could access the devices
Here is the second mistake... i should have wondered how to restore to normal state before starting, because i don't have any SD card that suit the device ( mine are normal sized ones, you know.. Stamp sized :/ )
Then i got to the thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1058846&page=7
and i used an usb key to transfer it to the device, but before applying the files i took a look to them and found 3 of them would overwrite actual system files, so i did a backup of them :
/system/build.prop
/system/etc/apns-conf
/system/bin/rild
and looking at the build.prop i saw differences in the values of the one on the A500 and the one in the package so i decided to get only the missing lines from the new system.zip file and add them to the original file
And here is the 3rd mistake, and i guess the reason of the problem : i did that merge on a windows computer, and i fear it did add those pesky CRLF at the end of lines, turning my build.prop into a build.prob(lem).
I'm not sure, as i didn't check before it was too late.
rebooted and... boot loop, with 1 times out of 2, the little android with yellow triangle and exclamaition mark.
Cried, runned in circles, then looked on forums to find a solution.
Reboot with Power+Volume gives :
"Erasing cache before SD update...
SD update cmd:recovery
--update_package=sdcard:update.zip
Booting recovery kernel image"
Then i get the android with gears for a few seconds, then below him is a bar like the one in the android store when you download a file, then half a second later, again the exclaimation mark.
I also tried plugging a keyboard to hit the home key...
( in fact two : Logitech G110 and trust easy scroll silverline )
no difference, maybe because those are gaming keyboards and they arent loaded soon enough by the tab, or maybe it crashes before keyboard loading.
Tried then to install ADB using post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1155664
hoping i could use the USB cable to put the backup files back in place but when i plug the device into the windows host, it recognises an unavailable USB MTP device, whose properties say "Acer iconia tab a500" in the "signaled bus description"(translated from french display, may be something else in english)
I manually force added the Acer ADB interface, but both the devices are unavailable to windows, with a warning sign, stating "this device cannot start (code 10)"
"Adb shell" answers "Error:device not found",which is expected, as windows can't see the devices properly
the strange thing is that, with USB plugged from A500 to PC, the Android with exclaimation stays forever, while without the cable, the system boot-loops
so i'm at this point :
i have a boot looping device, and the backup of the modified files on an USB key, and no way to put them back on device.
I found on the forums a lot of different .imgs that could be put on the /system to reload the device but none with EMEA-CUS3. So if i overwrite the files, i can't go back
I read you need a SD card to patch the device but not all of them work...
And my only computer with a SD slot uses a big one, not micro one, so i also need an adapter to write on the sd card.
Is someone near me (belgium/postcode 4000) having a SD ward working with the device who could lend it or help me doing the job ?
else
i saw in a nearby store ad "Sigma SDHC 4Go" or "Sigma SDHC 8Go", with apparently an adaptor for a normal sized SD slot, can anyone confirm it works or it don't work for sure ?
else
Can anyone tell me an SD card know to work, and being sold currently with an adapter so i have a chance to find one in a store near me ?
Is there a way to create an update.zip that will only update the files i did overwrite ?
if not, has someone an image for the same system i have ?
Well... lots of questions, but i'm very worried, especially as the device is not mine and not working anymore atm.
-> update
Looking closer at the modem (Vodafone k3565) it has a trap that says "SD card" so i guess i won't need an adapter... still need the reference of a SD card known to work for the restoring.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The reason "some" SD cards don't work is down purely to formatting. Normally, reformatting them in an Android phone sorts it out. Not always, but normally. Don't worry about the GEN3 stuff too much, it's just regional variations anyway... More important to get the tab working again, no?
Yes i did ( on 2 different computers, just to be sure )...
and still the device is not recognised as "adb device".
Windows shows a "USB MTP Device"
Tried to manually add the "ACER Composite ADB Interface" and "ACER Fastboot Interface" to the installed peripherals, it shows with yellow exclaimation mark, never shows up running.
Without any useable answer about one week later, i did buy a Traxdata 2Gb SD card with adapter ( the cheapest i found with an adapter from micro SD to normal SD ) and flashed with the Emea_Gen3 ROM from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1113878.
Now the tablet works, but is telling me 4.010.42-COM-GEN1 instead of the previous 4.015.05-Emea-Cus3.
Seems to work correctly, so i go on with the modem connexion.
As the title suggest, looking to see if its possible to read/write to the mounted sd card while its plugged into the Iconia Tab from my Windows file manager.
about 4 months ago i found an old Sandisk sansa at work, no one claimed it so the manager in charge of lost and found gave it to me tonight. Its a fairly old model, but it had an 8gig Transcend micro sdhc in it. its loaded with nearly 7 gigs of music. Id like to back up the contents and then wipe the card.
Also, is there a way to test the cards read/write speeds from the tab? i saw Sd Tools but it only tries to speedtest the internal memory with no option for switching to the external_sd.
Or, am i going to have to buy one of those little card readers for USB slots?
@Grimcreaper - you could look at this method I posted back in July. It's simple and it works. But I'll be honest for simplicity I prefer using a usb card reader, I know it's a nuisance taking the sd card in and out but virtually nothing can go wrong while you are using it.
Try this simple method
For anyone who wants to see the contents of their sd card on their PC and be able to copy/transfer files from one to the other, why not give this a try, it is very simple and works for my A500.
Before you start you need your A500 to be rooted and you need "USB Mount All version 1.3" from the Market cost $1.99
(1) Have your PC switched on, don't connect your A500 yet but switch the A500 on.
(2) Run USB Mount All and you will see your sd card as a "Device" named "ext_sdcard".
(3) Press the tab "Mount" next to your ext_sdcard. You will see two messages "Mount has been granted Superuser permission" and "Device successfully mounted".
(4) Press the "Menu" tab in the top Right hand corner of the screen, this opens a small box entitled "Settings". Press on "Settings" and you get 3 options, make certain all 3 options are ticked, ticking them if they are not. (The important thing is to have "Mount on Bootup" ticked"). Press the Back Arrow twice to get back to Home Page or where ever you started from.
(5) Re-boot the A500 and after it is back running connect it to your PC using mini usb connector.
(6) Now check your PC and open Windows Explorer, you will find under your A500 Device most of the folder/directories that are in /mnt/sdcard (which isn't all that relevent to this) BUT importantly you will find a folder/directory entitled "ext_sdcard" which for those of you who noticed is the exact name that "USB Mount All" called your sd card.
(7) Now use Windows Explorer to copy and paste whatever you want into the "ext_sdcard" folder.
(8) Please note that when you start to copy files you will get up a warning box stating "Do you want to copy XXXXX to your device?". You are given 2 choices (1) No skip this file or (2) Yes.
(9) Put a tick in the box at the bottom Left and click on "Yes".
(10) When finished safely disconnect your A500 from your PC and re-boot your A500.
(11) After re-boot go back into "USB Mount All", chose top Right menu and settings box and remove the tick from the 3rd option "Mount on Bootup". Each time you are going to copy, move or delete files first of all put the tick back in the 3rd box and when you're done take it out.
Your Done. If you use any File Explorer to look at /mnt/external_sd you will see all the files residing on your sd card including those you've just copied
DroidExplorer
Just wait for or load one of the 3.2 based roms...
Thank you guys for your answers
Yes you can!
I'm using the virtuous galaxy room and it's under the storages file» sd» mmcblk1 and there you go. Way easier than pulling the card out every two seconds
@Grimcreaper - Further to what I originally posted, I have to apologise and endorse what "verdigny" posted. "DroidExplorer" is IMO the best and easiest way of achieving your goal. I must blame an early onset of Alzh or alternatively too many visits to the bottle for forgetting that I in fact have DroidExplorer on my PC and it does everything you want so easily. Back in July when I posted my screed I hadn't seen or downloaded DroidExplorer and that is why I worked out that painfully long and convoluted system.
Thanks again for more info would have responded sooner but ive been stuck working some killer hours right before my vacation kicks in.
Another question, anyone know how to test the speed of the micro sd card?
I found 1 app but it only works for phones i think as it only shows the tabs internal memory with no options for doing an external sd card source, cant remember what its called as i uninstalled it
trying to find out if its worth using on my tab or if its to slow.
Gonna edit this again, appearently i didnt fix it. BusyBox doesnt want to work on my tablet now. says its not rooted and wont install it. so im lost
Went into SU and had it "forget" the busybox installer, but its bringing up a lot of things it didnt the first time i installed it..
Is there anything to worry about with an install of busybox? is it easy to remove if i need to for updating the tablet or anything once i remove SU access? all of these warnings have me a bit scared since im a total noob with android devices but being able to access the sd card constantly through the tablet from windows would make things a lot easier
@Grimcreaper - can't help with sd card speed, a bit out of my league. As far as "BusyBox" is concerned may I make the following comments. I presume each of the following statements are true.....(1) you are using the stock/standard Rom and Kernel (2) you have rooted by using Iconia Root [ v1.1 or v1.2 or v1.3] (3) you are on Honeycomb 3.1 (4) you use "RootChecker" free from MktPlace (5) you used "BusyBox Installer" free from MktPlace.
I am not an expert but in your position my "path" would have been......(1) Root the A500 (2) Apply BusyBox Installer (3) Install RootChecker. Assuming Rooting goes ok you should have no problem installing BusyBox and then use RootChecker which in it's "Advanced" mode will confirm your Root was successful and will also confirm successful installation of BusyBox. By installing BusyBox, apart from anything else, you gain access to certain system/scripting/"linux type" commands such as 'cat' 'chmod' 'chown' 'clear' 'dd' 'egrep' 'ping' etc.etc.
If you need "Iconia Root" I can point you to the XDA page or can attach it to a followup post, but reading your post again I'm presuming you already have it. A small point, when it comes to updating OTA updates from Acer I found on the last update from 3.01 to 3.1 that after restoring certain "bloat" files I was able to update without uninstalling Root and at the conclusion of the update Root was still operative.
Hope I havn't missed your point and wasted your time with a load of drivel.
Quick addition - Do a search in Market for "software data cable" and look at the first 2 free apps. Haven't tried them myself but might interest you.
Checking out rootchecker now, everything else on the list is accurate.
According to rootchecker i am rooted, which i did using the iconia root 1.3 i believe some time ago to get the netflix stuff working by backing up replacing the libmonv file.
It also shows Busybox as correctly installed too, version 1.18.4
Grimcreaper said:
Another question, anyone know how to test the speed of the micro sd card?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
find a pc program to download and check it.
here are a couple,
Crystal Disk Mark
or
HD Tach is a low level hardware benchmark for random access read/write storage devices such as hard drives, removable drives (ZIP/JAZZ), flash devices, and RAID arrays. HD Tach uses custom device drivers and other low level Windows interfaces to bypass as many layers of software as possible and get as close to the physical performance of the device possible.
The trial version of HD Tach measures the sequential read speed (at various points on the device), the random access speed, interface burst speed and CPU utilization of the drive. The registered version adds sequential write testing.
I've managed to softbrick my nexus 10 by trying to disable extra services (was getting about 1.5 hours battery life with media services running the processor 100% all the time). It worked wonderfully (no negative side effects, went back to 10+ hours with the screen on, or days on standby) until I reboot it and now it won't load past the moving colors (Android 4.4.3, unlocked and all that).
I have TWRP, I was hoping to backup everything possible via usb, but it seems it's incapable of doing so. ADB backup can't be done using TWRP since there's no unlock function (reaaal useful there, recovery mode that doesn't support backups) and adb pull fails if I try to pull everything since there are files and folders with invalid file names (who puts ":" in folder names? they should be shot), and I don't know specifically what to pull, I was just going to get everything put back what I found was missing that I needed. There's no room to do a backup onto the device, and since the N10 has to sd/microsd, well... Useless options are useless.
Is there anyway to just do a proper backup with TWRP over USB? Or is the "recovery" mode as useless as I think it is when it comes to backups? (I'm aware I can get the tablet back to working order if I disregard the data on it, this is a question about backing things up before doing so)
Edit: Also, I have a pro version of SkipSoft ToolKit, but unless you can actually load into the OS the toolkit can't do anything at all.
Just really frustrated with the lack of doing something as basic as copying files from one place to another. Been messing with this all morning.
Diet6 said:
I've managed to softbrick my nexus 10 by trying to disable extra services (was getting about 1.5 hours battery life with media services running the processor 100% all the time). It worked wonderfully (no negative side effects, went back to 10+ hours with the screen on, or days on standby) until I reboot it and now it won't load past the moving colors (Android 4.4.3, unlocked and all that).
I have TWRP, I was hoping to backup everything possible via usb, but it seems it's incapable of doing so. ADB backup can't be done using TWRP since there's no unlock function (reaaal useful there, recovery mode that doesn't support backups) and adb pull fails if I try to pull everything since there are files and folders with invalid file names (who puts ":" in folder names? they should be shot), and I don't know specifically what to pull, I was just going to get everything put back what I found was missing that I needed. There's no room to do a backup onto the device, and since the N10 has to sd/microsd, well... Useless options are useless.
Is there anyway to just do a proper backup with TWRP over USB? Or is the "recovery" mode as useless as I think it is when it comes to backups? (I'm aware I can get the tablet back to working order if I disregard the data on it, this is a question about backing things up before doing so)
Edit: Also, I have a pro version of SkipSoft ToolKit, but unless you can actually load into the OS the toolkit can't do anything at all.
Just really frustrated with the lack of doing something as basic as copying files from one place to another. Been messing with this all morning.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you still need help? What about mtp mounting? You can pull * for a whole folder
Why not adb sideload a new rom?
I don't think I can MTP mount a Nexus 10, at least not in recovery mode. What I ended up doing was buying a OTG usb drive and making a backup to that. Problem was it split the tar over 4 files, which corrupted them (or at least made them not work with 7zip or tartool) fortunately I was able to get them to work with cygwin enough to get the files I wanted. I didn't want to sideload a new rom until I had backed up certain application data just in case it removed it.
All in all, had to buy a OTG usb drive (I would have just bought a cable but all the stores around here had was this "Dane 16gb OTG drive". So 20 bucks later I had the files I needed. Still annoyed that you can't do a ADB backup from fastboot or recovery mode, it seems like those would be the best places because no system files are in use, but who knows maybe the developers know something I don't.
In summary:
TWRP recovery cannot confirm a ADB backup over USB. ADB backups can only be done from the operating system.
TWRP recovery mode can only backup to OTG (if your device supports it, Nexus 10 does), but if the backup is larger than 2gb it will split the file and you will need some form of linux to extract it.
ADB cannot copy every file in recovery mode over USB due to certain file names being invalid for NTFS (this is probably not a problem on other file system types), this is problematic since the "pull" command has no skip option, it just fails when it hits one of these files.
Well you can easily flash latest rwrp that does well on my Linux mount internal storage but another solution is just flashing a rom with abd sideload and the'the back up from pc the content
---------- Post added at 04:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:23 AM ----------
Or that will just un brick your tablet
Diet6 said:
Still annoyed that you can't do a ADB backup from fastboot or recovery mode
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
adb doesn't work in fastboot mode, only recovery or Android itself.
Diet6 said:
In summary:
TWRP recovery cannot confirm a ADB backup over USB. ADB backups can only be done from the operating system.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe because /data (not talking about /data/media) wasn't mounted?
Diet6 said:
TWRP recovery mode can only backup to OTG
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Huh?
Diet6 said:
ADB cannot copy every file in recovery mode over USB due to certain file names being invalid for NTFS (this is probably not a problem on other file system types), this is problematic since the "pull" command has no skip option, it just fails when it hits one of these files.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's NTFS' problem, not TWRP's.
beekay201 said:
1. adb doesn't work in fastboot mode, only recovery or Android itself.
2. Maybe because /data (not talking about /data/media) wasn't mounted?
3. Huh?
4. That's NTFS' problem, not TWRP's.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
1. I was just covering that you can't actually do a ADB backup unless you have access to android OS, in case anyone else came across this. (I didn't know when I started, and it took awhile to find it said concretely anywhere)
2. I made sure everything was mounted, the issue is when you send a backup command over ADB it says the "Now unlock your device and confirm the backup operation" message in terminal which you can't do from recovery mode on the device, thus you cannot do a ADB backup command over TWRP (or other recovery modes I'd imagine).
3. I should have been more specific. TWRP can do a backup to the device itself (built in storage), SD card (if your device has one and you mount it), or a OTG (on the go) device via usb directly to media like a flash drive. It cannot issue a backup over USB to a computer.
4. Completely agree it's a NTFS issue, but it could be mostly avoided by allowing files that error to be skipped or renamed rather than terminating the process. (I understand that's on the android devs since pull is made by them, and I doubt they would care to improve the command for a file system I doubt they use). Again I mostly included that so if anyone else is trying to figure it out they can stop looking for "a way" and just accept it can't be done.
Ultimately Khaon is right in that sideloading a rom would have unbricked it and I could have done the ADB backup then, I just wasn't sure how that might affect the app data storage so I was looking for a way to back it up before doing that.
Diet6 said:
1. I was just covering that you can't actually do a ADB backup unless you have access to android OS, in case anyone else came across this. (I didn't know when I started, and it took awhile to find it said concretely anywhere)
2. I made sure everything was mounted, the issue is when you send a backup command over ADB it says the "Now unlock your device and confirm the backup operation" message in terminal which you can't do from recovery mode on the device, thus you cannot do a ADB backup command over TWRP (or other recovery modes I'd imagine).
3. I should have been more specific. TWRP can do a backup to the device itself (built in storage), SD card (if your device has one and you mount it), or a OTG (on the go) device via usb directly to media like a flash drive. It cannot issue a backup over USB to a computer.
4. Completely agree it's a NTFS issue, but it could be mostly avoided by allowing files that error to be skipped or renamed rather than terminating the process. (I understand that's on the android devs since pull is made by them, and I doubt they would care to improve the command for a file system I doubt they use). Again I mostly included that so if anyone else is trying to figure it out they can stop looking for "a way" and just accept it can't be done.
Ultimately Khaon is right in that sideloading a rom would have unbricked it and I could have done the ADB backup then, I just wasn't sure how that might affect the app data storage so I was looking for a way to back it up before doing that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'd just 'tar' what I wanted on the device and then pull that with adb.
Yeah, I just had no idea what I wanted. I'm not 100% familiar with how the system stores application data, I figured if I copy everything than anything I "miss" after I formated it I'll be able to just research where it was and dig in the backup and pull it out.
Yeah adb sideload a rom will only affect system partition thus your data would not have been modified in any way. So you are done with your issue?
Sent from my Xiaomi MI2s
Khaon said:
Yeah adb sideload a rom will only affect system partition thus your data would not have been modified in any way. So you are done with your issue?
Sent from my Xiaomi MI2s
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, sorry for the slow reply. I've completed my update, just wanted to follow up on everything I did incase the information is useful for anyone else new to this like I am.
The WileyFox Swift 2 Plus is not a bad looking phone, the case feels good in my hand. It is almost small and light enough to fit into my shirt pocket should I need to.
It runs CyanogenOS which is an improvement on the standard bloated Google Android and is to be applauded.
3Gb for the System and 32Gb Storage, 2.4GHz WiFi, Dual Sim, External SDCard, NFC, Android Pay, Android Beam , FingerPrint recognition, 4G, 16Mp/8Mp cameras, 5" screen - great stuff especially for the price. It is however, designed as a city phone not an everywhere phone that much is apparent.
There are a number of downsides :crying:
The second SIM slot doubles up as the Ext SDRam slot - one or the other not both - what an epic fail !!!
Can't actually use the SDcard for backups or data or media - bit of a waste of space really. You need to root the phone and install SD Fix or similar.
It only works with 2.4GHz WiFi which is a disgrace given my ancient Xperia T covers 5GHz as well.
There is no real GPS only A-GPS which needs an internet connection to work - no good if you have a poor or zero mobile signal. This is really such a waste of time even implementing this instead of the real thing.
Only the Google versions of photo album and media player (which don't find local files), mail(gmail) , calendar, calculator etc are installed. If you like having to use a data connection and Google knowing everything you do then fine. I don't which means I have to install apps covering those functions. Shame I can't just install those I used on my Sony Xperia. If you already have favourites its not a big deal. If you don't then you have to start loading and trying out Apps to find the one you like.
Having set up the phone to your liking it would be nice to be able to save it that way. Which you can't without Rooting the phone.
To make the best of it you need to Root the phone - this is to be able to install effective anti-virus, firewall and anti-theft software. To be able to install Titanium Backup in order to actually backup the current state of the phone including apps and data to the SDcard as well as the cloud.
And remove the Apps that you don't use or don't care to have installed.
Would you use a PC without that type of software ? I suspect not - So why make a phone that you can't install the protective software on to ?
It is very simple to unlock the Bootloader and then Root the phone using SuperSU just using the phones developer options. No need to install ADB on the PC or install TWRP on the phone if you don't want to use a custom ROM. Unfortunately it invalidates the manufacturers warranties. :crying::crying::crying:
This could have so easily been a perfect phone, unfortunately a couple of poor cost cutting decisions have more or less ruined it.
Me ? I have already given away this phone after just 3 days, much to my disappointment.
Isn't A-GPS built on top of GPS and purely there for lock startup speed?
You're right, this "review" is full of nonsenses
1. The SD card slot is shared with second SIM slot, it is right. But SD card can be use to backup data or to extend the internal storage space (marsmallow feature)! You don't really need root and SD fix...
2. A-GPS is used to improve startup speed, which is really impressive (snapdragon!)
3. Photo album and media player, mail, ...? You could install whatever you want, there is a google play store
4. Root. No phones come with builtin root, but if you really need it, it is possible and easy to install.
I believe that there will be a community CaynogenMod ROM in the future - just like for the original Wileyfox Swift 1...
I'm very satisfied with this phone. Yeah there are some drawbacks - it has only 720p display (instead of full HD), it can be a bit smaller (just like the previous Swift) and the CyanogenOS has some bugs (for example the theme provider is time to time crashing...), but I hope it will be fixed in the future...
Even better
You can delete easily what you want with titanium backup. And whitout lag (not like a Miui rom).
The bootloader is probably one of the most easier than I've done in my life (not like a xiaomi one).
The SD cart can be use to save your backup, even my 128gb is working.
The screen it's just the perfect size & definition is the perfect combo for not to drain the battery.
Waiting the LineagOS for the marmite :fingers-crossed:
Just managed to pick up one of these practically brand new for only £100 for a friend.
Really nice build quality and look of the phone and packaging. CM13.1 looks nice and any bloat can be quickly disabled or even uninstalled. 3GB Ram is great as sitting here now, this phone has 2GB just sat there free. (Unlike the Nexus 9 for example!) If I was nit picking, the screen could be better and the fingerprint reader isn't as fast as my One Plus 3, (Not to be expected given the price.)
If I had this in front of me, a P9 Lite, and the standard Moto G4 for the same cash, I'd pick the P9 Lite due to its better screen. I'd pick this second due to the extra RAM and fingerprint reader, and the Moto last. If I had to pick a phone to last 2 years, I'd pick this over the P9 as CM13 is better than the strange Huawei stuff.
If Wileyfox could drop the price to £160, I think they'd be onto a real winner.
bahjesaispas said:
You can delete easily what you want with titanium backup. And whitout lag (not like a Miui rom).
The bootloader is probably one of the most easier than I've done in my life (not like a xiaomi one).
The SD cart can be use to save your backup, even my 128gb is working.
The screen it's just the perfect size & definition is the perfect combo for not to drain the battery.
Waiting the LineagOS for the marmite :fingers-crossed:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just bought today can you give run down how to unlock bootloader:good:
stevegtrlmk said:
Just bought today can you give run down how to unlock bootloader:good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On the Nougat ROM:
Enabled developer options (tap build number several times)
Go to developer options
Enable the "OEM unlocking" option
Not so sure about the rest:
reboot into fastboot (adb reboot bootloader)
fastboot oem unlock
It seems like unlocking will wipe your phone... (At the fastboot step... I only recently got mine, haven't tried this yet)
Demostrike said:
Isn't A-GPS built on top of GPS and purely there for lock startup speed?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope A-GPS is a cheap replacement for real GPS.
http://www.diffen.com/difference/A-GPS_vs_GPS
If you are running a WileyFox Swift with Cyanogen you will find that any of the GPS test apps will say there is no GPS.
A-GPS does NOT work without an internet connection.
Some phone use A-GPS to speed up their lock within built up areas.
Having said that the Swift running the Android v7.1.1 Nougat package the GPS has been enabled and the GPS Test tools now work.
Go figure why it wasn't enabled in the first place.
rivierakid said:
You're right, this "review" is full of nonsenses
1. The SD card slot is shared with second SIM slot, it is right. But SD card can be use to backup data or to extend the internal storage space (marsmallow feature)! You don't really need root and SD fix...
Depends what you want to use the SD card for, maybe something like saving your Titatium backups which can be removed from the phone if it is dead. And if you want dual SIM you can't use the SD card. And you need to root the phone to use the Marchmallow SD card unlock.
If you let the phone use the SD card as extended memory it is encrypted and you can't read it without that phone - thanks Google.
2. A-GPS is used to improve startup speed, which is really impressive (snapdragon!)
Nope SOME phones use A-GPS to speed up lock within built up areas but it is really a cheap replacement for real GPS.
http://www.diffen.com/difference/A-GPS_vs_GPS
check your facts.
3. Photo album and media player, mail, ...? You could install whatever you want, there is a google play store
And if you don't like the pre-installed versions you need something like Titanium to remove them.
4. Root. No phones come with builtin root, but if you really need it, it is possible and easy to install.
And the UPDATES stop the moment you unlock the BootLoader let alone Root the phone.
Anti-Theft, Anti-Virus, Anti-Malware, Titanium Backup, Nandroid Backup all need ROOT.
The Cyanogen Anti-Theft stopped working when the website closed.
The point I was making is why should you have to 'break' your phone to protect your investment?"
I believe that there will be a community CaynogenMod ROM in the future - just like for the original Wileyfox Swift 1...
LOL - no Cyanogen is no more , although there is a movement to Lineage which may grow into a Cyanogen replacement
I'm very satisfied with this phone. Yeah there are some drawbacks - it has only 720p display (instead of full HD), it can be a bit smaller (just like the previous Swift) and the CyanogenOS has some bugs (for example the theme provider is time to time crashing...), but I hope it will be fixed in the future...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I also like the phone and its even better running v7.1.1 Nougat - even though the Zen app is not needed.
SMessy said:
Yes I also like the phone and its even better running v7.1.1 Nougat - even though the Zen app is not needed.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Get your facts right, just about all phones use aGPS. And all phones lose updates when rooted. You make generic points and a tribute them to a particular device. Sad.
Sent from my Lenovo P2a42 using Tapatalk
MoHaG said:
On the Nougat ROM:
Enabled developer options (tap build number several times)
Go to developer options
Enable the "OEM unlocking" option
Not so sure about the rest:
reboot into fastboot (adb reboot bootloader)
fastboot oem unlock
It seems like unlocking will wipe your phone... (At the fastboot step... I only recently got mine, haven't tried this yet)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Reboot into fast boot is that within the phone or when your connected to computer :good:
stevegtrlmk said:
Reboot into fast boot is that within the phone or when your connected to computer :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you use the adb command, on the computer...
(I can reboot into bootloader from the advanced reboot menu on the phone as well)
MoHaG said:
If you use the adb command, on the computer...
(I can reboot into bootloader from the advanced reboot menu on the phone as well)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hey thanks unlocked boot but can't get twrp to flash. Download the newest marmite version put in adb folder tried to flash but nothing
stevegtrlmk said:
Hey thanks unlocked boot but can't get twrp to flash. Download the newest marmite version put in adb folder tried to flash but nothing
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi,
I choose to unlock my swift 2 bootloader and flash TWRP using fastboot commands. If you have unlocked bootloader then using minimal ADB and fastboot command use: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img replacing recovery.img with the one you downloaded. So mine was fastboot flash recovery twrp-3.1.1-0-marmite.img as I am on the current official build.
image45 said:
Hi,
I choose to unlock my swift 2 bootloader and flash TWRP using fastboot commands. If you have unlocked bootloader then using minimal ADB and fastboot command use: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img replacing recovery.img with the one you downloaded. So mine was fastboot flash recovery twrp-3.1.1-0-marmite.img as I am on the current official build.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for that I have not tried yet but will do soon much appreciated:good:
image45 said:
Hi,
I choose to unlock my swift 2 bootloader and flash TWRP using fastboot commands. If you have unlocked bootloader then using minimal ADB and fastboot command use: fastboot flash recovery recovery.img replacing recovery.img with the one you downloaded. So mine was fastboot flash recovery twrp-3.1.1-0-marmite.img as I am on the current official build.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do you have to have the file on root of device or in the adb folder as I am just getting error cannot flash twrp
stevegtrlmk said:
Do you have to have the file on root of device or in the adb folder as I am just getting error cannot flash twrp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Minimal ADB and Fastboot is a PC based program. I have provided link below for you.
https://freeandroidroot.com/download-minimal-adb-and-fastboot-all-versions/
Once installed you place the file to be flashed in the program folder with the other installed core program files in directory.
If you run the program you get the command prompt window as displayed in post. This is where you run the Fastboot common I advised you about in earlier post.
So in the command window type and execute:
fastboot flash recovery twrp-3.1.1-0-marmite.img
You might wish to read this thread too on XDA
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
Hope this helps Robert.