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hello,
before i start i have to excuse me for my bad english!
Now to my Problem:
Yesterday I updated my Firmware at my Xperia and before i crypt my memory card, and now i cant read my own memory card!
Can someone help me?
It is not possible. That's the goal of that encryption... bad luck.
Do someone know where the key is saved?
yeah encryption is a thing where vistas paraniod user rights control would make sense
people should only! ever encrypt their sdcards if the data not falling into the wrong hands is much more important then the data being lost
same deal with encrypting ones harddisk on a the pc really
Rudegar said:
yeah encryption is a thing where vistas paraniod user rights control would make sense
people should only! ever encrypt their sdcards if the data not falling into the wrong hands is much more important then the data being lost
same deal with encrypting ones harddisk on a the pc really
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Wait, what? I so don't agree with that!
You should always encrypt your HDD/SDCard etc if you consider that someone else getting that information might be prejudicial to yourself, your image, etc.
It has nothing to do with the data being lost or not.
Encrypted or not, once the phone/hdd leaves your posession, the data is "lost". The only thing to discuss now is whether or not somebody seeing that information might gain some advantage over you (be it by reading emails, viewing personal info and so on).
Lol...its like saying, locking the house should only be done if someone else stealing your stuff could gain more than what you lost !?
I know this is not the place but for those people wanting security:
http://www.truecrypt.org/
This is one hell of an encryption utility (and it's free) for your PC
PM me if you need infos on how to use it
HI @ all!
Yesterday I tested the erase function on HTCSense.com.
I worked perfetly but erased also my personal data an the sd card like music, videos AND the preinstalled navigation software!
So be careful if u want to check out this feature!!
It´s quite logical that even the data on the sd card will be affected - but I wasn´t aware of that yesterday.
Anybody experienced teh same here?
Greetz!
Yep that's right. Page 166 of the User Manual says:
"... Erasing your phone contents
If there’s no chance of getting your phone back, you can erase the contents of the phone and the installed storage card so no one sees sensitive information on your phone.
There’s no way to recover your phone and storage card data after you erase the contents so be absolutely sure before you proceed.
1. On your computer, open your web browser and sign in to your HTCSense.com account.
2. Click Dashboard.
3. Click Erase Phone.
4. When asked to confirm, click Erase Phone. ..."
My emphasis .....
Dave
Isn't that the whole idea of wiping your phone remotely? ---- to protect your personal data not to be seen/used by the thief. At least you have proved that feature does work properly.
Soooooo...I guess reading the manual has become overrated
I'm sorry, I just had to
Cheers,
M_T_M
Your friendly Mod
No question - thats the idea behind this.
But whats with the navigation software??? Thats not really a "personal information" Thats part of the system I bought...
B.t.w.: The user manual is also wiped... lol!
Data recovery?
It would be interesting to find out just how well the data is erased - is it possible to attempt to recover the data on the SD card using some data recovery software?
I guess the hopeful answer is NO, you shouldn't be able to but it would be good to prove it, unless someone's already researched this?
clintyboy12 said:
It would be interesting to find out just how well the data is erased - is it possible to attempt to recover the data on the SD card using some data recovery software?
I guess the hopeful answer is NO, you shouldn't be able to but it would be good to prove it, unless someone's already researched this?
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If you give me a recovery sw, i can test this..
@ M_T_M: n.r.t.f.m.
But I don´t care about the few mp3´s... i care about the navigation!
Can you store locations on the Nav, like where you live? I know TomTom advise against storing your actual 'home' location on the devices, as if it gets stolen then the thief then knows where you live - and they may now know that you aren't home.
I'm more concerned about someone hacking into HTCSense.com and being able to lock my phone, or erase everything off it. I hoped the website would be as secure as a bank website is, instead of just a simple username and password.
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But whats with the navigation software??? Thats not really a "personal information" Thats part of the system I bought...
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Actually maps can tell a lot about you. For one it can give the region of world you are in by the maps you downloaded, but more importantly if you have routes saved, it can give away your address.
Closing thread now....derailing off-topic...
Salutations,
M_T_M
Hi, I lost my phone and just found out from Samsung that the SD card has no built in security. If phone is found anyone can access all files on SD Card. Just an FYI - beware.
Sd card can be protected with password and when you put them in new phone or any other device you need that password to open them don't know if android have the setting
What did you expect ? It's flash memory.
I think the Secure stands for "it's not gone if it loses power".
OMFG ROTFL...
@ OP: when you are buying a car, and leaving the keys inside, are you warning all buyers that it may be stolen???
first, if you must make a porn photoes of your gf, put it immediately on something like Intergal Crypto, and do not watch it in sub on your phone.
Second, if you really must look on it at work, install something, like Droid Crypt or LUKS Manager...
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OMFG ROTFL...
@ OP: when you are buying a car, and leaving the keys inside, are you warning all buyers that it may be stolen???
first, if you must make a porn photoes of your gf, put it immediately on something like Intergal Crypto, and do not watch it in sub on your phone.
Second, if you really must look on it at work, install something, like Droid Crypt or LUKS Manager...
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I have no idea what you are saying...LOL Firstly no porn was involved, just has my apps , music, and an encrypted excel file...just don't like the fact that Samsung provides PIN access to the phone but it doesnt subsequently provide security to the SD card attached to the phone at same time.
Samsung and Google are thinking that anyone interested would use the Encryption Manager Lite, LUKS manager or Droid Crypt from the Market.
If you want encryption, THINK first, then DO an effort to install it. Simple? not for all, as I see...
True: BAD Google, BAD Samsung, they gave you too advanced machine
Apologies on their behalf.
Nothing to do with how advanced the machine is...but if they advised people to add additional security to the SD card, it would have been appreciated, so you don't find out when it is too late, like I did. I post this as an FYI for all.
One simple question: on your car's windscreen, do you have a warning: while leaving your car, take the keys with you and close it?
Correct me, because it just hit my mind that it would be kind of advantageous not having an expandable memory. For example, if our phones were to be stolen by an average thief, it would be quite easy to access micro sd data, regardless of the password protection on the phone. Whereas, for non expandable phones, the data isn't accessible unless one has unlocked the phone after connecting.
Well anyways, my question here is that is there any foolproof method of protecting personal data on phone? Also, can whatsapp be relied? Any more methods you can think of can be added below.
First being that don't use cloud services for private data. (something we learnt from today's leaks ) Not that I ever have, for sharing photos with family, I've always encrypted my data (with aes 256) before uploading on mediafire. At least it gives me a little piece of mind.
akshaypatil869 said:
Correct me, because it just hit my mind that it would be kind of advantageous not having an expandable memory. For example, if our phones were to be stolen by an average thief, it would be quite easy to access micro sd data, regardless of the password protection on the phone. Whereas, for non expandable phones, the data isn't accessible unless one has unlocked the phone after connecting.
Well anyways, my question here is that is there any foolproof method of protecting personal data on phone? Also, can whatsapp be relied? Any more methods you can think of can be added below.
First being that don't use cloud services for private data. (something we learnt from today's leaks ) Not that I ever have, for sharing photos with family, I've always encrypted my data (with aes 256) before uploading on mediafire. At least it gives me a little piece of mind.
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In KitKat I saw an Encrypt Phone option which is really awesome for internal storage.
Moreover Google if forcing OEMs to remove microSD card slot so that People are dependent on their cloud services.
Google was us to be fully dependent on them.
Which is not so awesome .
So I thought I had all the backups enabled for everything, including my Secure Folder.
I used smartswitch to make a backup of my phone before I reset it. It never occured to me to check my secure folder.
Apparently Smart Switch doesn't back up the secure folder, and I didn't have the backups enabled.
I reset my phone and now I'm frantic looking for a folder full of hunderes of photos from a relationship that just ended and I can't find it anywhere.
Is there ANY possible way for me to recover these photos? I'll even trip Knox and root if I have to just to recover them.
Have you tried the restore option in secure folder?
blackhawk said:
Have you tried the restore option in secure folder?
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No backups found because it apparently wasn't set up.
Maybe with Samsung cloud?
You might be boned. Sorry.
The problem being the secure folder content is encrypted and that key was lost with the factory reset. Try setting up Secure folder and see if it will repopulate. Worth a try...
Never trust SmartSwitch with critical data. I always use cut/paste for that. SmartSwitch is nice to save the homepage but I don't trust it.
I use my SD card as a data drive, all critical data goes here as well as backup and installable copies of all my apps. I can do a full restore without internet connection from here. I then redundantly back up the SD card to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Only the loaded apps, the download folder and the DCIM folder (it's transferred to SD card regularly*) go on internal memory ie the OS drive. You have a dual drive PC in your hands, use it as such! Get a Sandisk. 5-1tb V30 Extreme card for it.
*never create more than one DCIM folder as it will cause issues, call the 2nd one Pic Master, etc
blackhawk said:
Maybe with Samsung cloud?
You might be boned. Sorry.
The problem being the secure folder content is encrypted and that key was lost with the factory reset. Try setting up Secure folder and see if it will repopulate. Worth a try...
Never trust SmartSwitch with critical data. I always use cut/paste for that. SmartSwitch is nice to save the homepage but I don't trust it.
I use my SD card as a data drive, all critical data goes here as well as backup and installable copies of all my apps. I can do a full restore without internet connection from here. I then redundantly back up the SD card to at least 2 hdds that are physically and electronically isolated from each other and the PC.
Only the loaded apps, the download folder and the DCIM folder (it's transferred to SD card regularly*) go on internal memory ie the OS drive. You have a dual drive PC in your hands, use it as such! Get a Sandisk. 5-1tb V30 Extreme card for it.
*never create more than one DCIM folder as it will cause issues, call the 2nd one Pic Master, etc
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I reset up my Secure Folder, nothing was in there. I thought I had all the proper backups set, but apparently I didn't.
So I guess whatever I had in there is gone forever, and there's nothing I can do, even if I root?
You could try a factory reset, set up Secure Folder then use the SmartSwitch copy.
I don't think it will work but it's a thought.
The root problem is the encryption key, without it there's no hope.
The Samsung members site may have some better ideas as you're not the first to have done this. Usually if you do a Google search like "Samsung, secure folder recovery" or such results from the Samsung members site will show.
Speaking as someone who has lost a database, sometimes all you can do is to learn from the mistake and not repeat it.
Store backup hdds in more than one location. A safety deposit box is earth grounded (shielded from near lightning strikes) as well as being physically secure.
Keep all magnets away from hdds.
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You could try a factory reset, set up Secure Folder then use the SmartSwitch copy.
I don't think it will work but it's a thought.
The root problem is the encryption key, without it there's no hope.
The Samsung members site may have some better ideas as you're not the first to have done this. Usually if you do a Google search like "Samsung, secure folder recovery" or such results from the Samsung members site will show.
Speaking as someone who has lost a database, sometimes all you can do is to learn from the mistake and not repeat it.
Store backup hdds in more than one location. A safety deposit box is earth grounded (shielded from near lightning strikes) as well as being physically secure.
Keep all magnets away from hdds.
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I've searched the net. All I can find is bogus 'guides' with spyware/malware to download. From everything I can see Knox is just too strong of security. Also learned it's certified by the US DOD and NSA, so that really tells me the photos are gone to the digital graveyard never to return again.
I guess it's a sign. It was only photos from 10+ years of a relationship with a soon to be ex-wife. Sign to let go and move on I guess.
And a tough lesson in data management.
There are no other backups or copies? 10 years?
Google backup maybe? It retains data sometimes even after being turned off.
Yeah, Knox is all that. I never encrypt devices or data as you are the most likely to lose access to it rather than a stranger. No password on my 10+, double tap on/off... protected by blackhawk.