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Head Phone Sound Quality

I've been looking through the forums in anticipation if getting an Atrix and have read the topics on the speaker quality. However, I didn't really read how the quality of sound is through headphones. I have a nice pair of headphones so I want it to sound good. So my questions are:
1. Does the Atrix have a Wolfson amplifier??
2. How does it compare to the Infuse or SGS2??

I can't answer your first question, but I have a pair of Dr. Dre Beats (yea i know i know, but they do sound pretty good) and I personally think the sound quality is better than the infuse. My cousin has an infuse and I played the same track on both phones with my headphones and I preferred the sound on the Atrix. Your best bet is to go to an AT&T store (or whoever your atrix provider might be) and bring your headphones and ask them to let you try out both and judge for yourself. Although music itself and even certain equalizer settings are subjective, I think you will get a pretty good idea on which one "sounds better".

Two thumbs up for sound quality.
I am probably one of the very few people here who replaced their SGS2 with Atrix 4G.
SGS2 sound quality is not bad, but its not great either. Specially if you are using it on EDGE network which does happen to me when I am not in 3G coverage area.
Anyway, coming to Atrix, its one of the best sounding handsets I have used after original Galaxy S. Output is clean, loud enough and free of distortions/clipping even at high volume on earphones and headphones.
To be honest, 8/10 people will not be able to decide which sounds better Atrix or SGS2 or infuse.
And with cheap headphones, its even harder to decide which one is better.
My opinions here are with Audio Technica ATH M50, Brainwavz M2 and Nuforce NE700.

My only problem is that it seems that the volume is overall pretty low (i.e. I find myself keeping the slider close-ish to the top). When I'm outside walking to and from class, the city sounds almost drown out my music even when I have it at max...I know it's not the headphones, because I use them on all of my music playing devices, and they are just fine elsewhere. The sound is good, but the max volume seems to be set low...Messing with the equalizer in my music player (PowerAmp) helps..

Yeah its a wolfson dac not amp which is what really matters. Overall the phone sounds very good especially considering its a freaking phone. Ive used Beyerdynamic dt 770 80ohm pros, etymotic mc5's, grado sr80i's, and most impressively my Magnepan MC-12 planar speakers with the phone. They all sounded just fine, not jaw dropping or anything but just fine and fairly balanced throughout. If you have good copies of your music and decent headphones the atrix will take care of you if your not too picky. Much more so if you have an external headphone amp. you'd be surprised how much something little like this
http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-E5-Headphone-Amplifier/dp/B001P9EQH8
can improve sound quality not to mention get you to the volume you want.
Also don't mess around with equalizers too much they have a tendency to distort music no matter what your sourcing it from.
happy listening \m/d>_<b\m/

Im wondering how is audio via bluetooth a2dp, my SGSII sounds very bad, crapy and maybe Atrix could be a better solution for me with this matter ?

arkadius41 said:
Im wondering how is audio via bluetooth a2dp, my SGSII sounds very bad, crapy and maybe Atrix could be a better solution for me with this matter ?
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The sound via a a2dp headset is fine, no where near as good as 3.5 jack but same can be said about the gs2. I will miss my Atrix as I loved the audio quility

Sound quality over bluetooth on Motorola S9-HD headset is great as far as I am concerned. No issues with volume either. I keep media volume maxed, and control headset volume from headset. It will go much louder than I use it at, and it drowns out any ambient sound easily.

[Q] How is the audio quality with headphones?

Hi,
can anybody say anything about the audio quality with decent headphones? I have pretty good Shure headphones, which don't work very well with my current phone, which is one of the reasons I consider buying the U8800. I'd change my mind if I knew the quality was bad.
So, how are the quality overall and how loud does it get (I usually don't listen very loudly).
Thanks!

I can't make comaparisons with other smartphones and in the month I have had the IDEOS X5 I find the sound quality pretty good through the headphones.
I've used different headphones that I have lying around. All were better than the headphones that came with the phone.
At home I use an old Koss full padded headphones that I normally use on the PC or when watching TV late at night. (It has a very long cable). I find the qality pretty good, warm bass without it being too punchy.
I also bought a set of cheap (AUD$3.50) stereo headphones from e-bay. The sound was crisp, perhaps a little too much treble but you can balance it out depending on the music app you use.
I recently bought a Sony Bluetooth stereo MW600 headset which work nicely with the IDEOS X5 using the stock music player. Sound is clear and well balanced.
Neither of these are very loud but I've had it turn it down a little depending on the outside noise level.
Having said all that there is a huge difference to sound quality depending on the type of bit rate used on the MP3's. The higher the bit rate the better the sound quality and volume...but I think that goes without saying but music listeners possibly don't allow for the quality of the re-encoding.
AND...the quality of audio is about 100 x better than through the speakers

The sound quality is bad. The bass is good but it also "spreads" out and muffles other sounds so it all sounds hazy. My PC/cowon I7 does not suffer from this.
The headphones I use daily are IE7's. Shure SE420 also sounded hazy with U8800. Tested with FLAC and MP3's with similar results on both.

Thanks for your answers.
Varatesh: Considering what high quality earphones you use, I guess your expectations might be somewhat higher than mine.
Sadly I don't know own anybody withe an U8800 so I can't test the audio quality and it's rarely tested in reviews, so no "objective" info there.

pragmatick said:
Hi,
can anybody say anything about the audio quality with decent headphones? I have pretty good Shure headphones, which don't work very well with my current phone, which is one of the reasons I consider buying the U8800. I'd change my mind if I knew the quality was bad.
So, how are the quality overall and how loud does it get (I usually don't listen very loudly).
Thanks!
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I don't now if I help w/ my case:
I only use the U8800 heaphones/mic and I must not change because the pinout is different (begining by the point):
Sound.L/Sound.R/Mic/Ground.
The others like Samsung, LG, etc. the pinout is:
Sound.L/Sound.R/Ground/Mic.
If we chage it the sound is bad because it return by Mic, not by ground. And the Mic also work bad.

That's interesting, ValenteL. So that means it would be possible to solder an adapter? It's just a matter of switching two channels.

pragmatick said:
That's interesting, ValenteL. So that means it would be possible to solder an adapter? It's just a matter of switching two channels.
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Helo
It's possible. For music only, no problem, I use one w/ 3 contacts.
W/ Mic I encountered only one same the U8800, is the ZTE Blade one.
Cumps.

Using ideos x5 + poweramp (it uses ffmpeg's codecs = better quality than the stock android codecs) + sony mw600 = eargasm.
Deep bass, rich high's and great fidelity, even on low bit rate HEAAC files. Although one thing to note, i had problems and dropouts using by bluetooth handset over a2dp with the stock froyo roms. That problem vanished as soon as i moved to the 2.3.5 roms floating around here (My personal favorite is MIUI and i'm waiting for an official cm7 nightly )
I'm not an audiophile or something - i wouldn't use my smartphone for music if i was one - but for the price tag and the hardware we get, music quality is superb, especially compared to the crappy sound output my previous htc wildfire had.

pragmatick said:
Hi,
can anybody say anything about the audio quality with decent headphones? I have pretty good Shure headphones, which don't work very well with my current phone, which is one of the reasons I consider buying the U8800. I'd change my mind if I knew the quality was bad.
So, how are the quality overall and how loud does it get (I usually don't listen very loudly).
Thanks!
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Sound is normal but you always can hear empty noise..the current noise.. there is no silence when there is no audio (yes it shuts down audio after 5secs of no audio) but it always have noise if you listen at more then 25% of volume then you will not hear it but if you listen at night you can clearly hear it.

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Sound is normal but you always can hear empty noise..the current noise.. there is no silence when there is no audio (yes it shuts down audio after 5secs of no audio) but it always have noise if you listen at more then 25% of volume then you will not hear it but if you listen at night you can clearly hear it.
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I agree with this. It's very apparent when listening to audiobooks, not a big problem with music though.

I can confirm the "current" noise too....

Audio SQ Stock vs CM10?

Hello there, is there any diference between audio qualify from headphones out stock vs cm?

This is the big question for me since I own a pair of NuForce NE-700M and plan to upgrade to Yamaha EPH-100, and roughly 90% of my smartphone usage is just listening to music. GSMArena shows stock playing with enjoyably low THD (I know some of you aren't too fond of their review process, though).

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Hello there, is there any diference between audio qualify from headphones out stock vs cm?
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Stock has workarounds for the cheap buds that come with the Oppo - but Dirac HD is unnecessary for decent headphones and in fact ruins the audio quality if used with good headphones. So if you use decent wired headphones you should not hear much difference if any. Some A2DP (stereo Bluetooth) devices have issues with 4.2 due to the new Bluetooth stack, however I can't reproduce this with any of my A2DP headsets.

I listen often music at home and sometimes I have to use my headphones (Fidelio)
Tested CM on Oppo which I preferred used on my HTC Sensation, but on the Oppo I am especially due to the sound quality back to Stock because in my opinion is the overall sound much better, especialy with MP3 320 kbps which I normally use. Only issue is that Stock in combination with the Faux Kernel causes sometimes a few problems.. However I have clearly to recommend the Stock for Music Lovers.. but try it - because ears and sound preferences are different
And by the way DiracHD is not only to improve cheap earphones, don't forget you have not the power of a High-End Amplifier in your pocket therfore is such a sound improvement a good way to have a much better sound on good headphones as well....

Nelson Hawker said:
I listen often music at home and sometimes I have to use my headphones (Fidelio)
Tested CM on Oppo which I preferred used on my HTC Sensation, but on the Oppo I am especially due to the sound quality back to Stock because in my opinion is the overall sound much better, especialy with MP3 320 kbps which I normally use. Only issue is that Stock in combination with the Faux Kernel causes sometimes a few problems.. However I have clearly to recommend the Stock for Music Lovers.. but try it - because ears and sound preferences are different
And by the way DiracHD is not only to improve cheap earphones, don't forget you have not the power of a High-End Amplifier in your pocket therfore is such a sound improvement a good way to have a much better sound on good headphones as well....
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No, DiracHD only works with cheap headphones - more specifically, *only with the cheap headphones included with the device* - it is an EQ preset that offsets the deficiencies of the OEM earbuds. Use it with anything that doesn't have the exact same frequency response and you correct for problems that aren't there - effectively creating new problems that didn't exist.
Effectively it's an audio form of RF predistortion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predistortion - Applying predistortion to anything with distortion characteristics different from what the predistortion algorithm was designed for results in increased distortion.

Well, then you agree that there is a differece between..and it depends on the headphones!
This was finally the question..
There was also somewhere a previous discussion ongoing that not each headphone works well with DIRAC due some reasons you stated before which is clear and nothing new..
But as I said, for me personally it sounds much better. Maybe are my 180 Euro headphones made of cheap quality, my ears need a doctor or I'am a promotion victim

Nelson Hawker said:
Well, then you agree that there is a differece between..and it depends on the headphones!
This was finally the question..
There was also somewhere a previous discussion ongoing that not each headphone works well with DIRAC due some reasons you stated before which is clear and nothing new..
But as I said, for me personally it sounds much better. Maybe are my 180 Euro headphones made of cheap quality, my ears need a doctor or I'am a promotion victim
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I got rid of my stock firmware before I had a chance to try the Dirac stuff, but it sounds like it's very similar to Beats Audio, where a lot of the lower spectrum and possibly some of the highs are boosted. This generally makes a more "fun" sound for the casual listener but a lot of more analytical listeners will feel like it ruins the sound, especially if they own earphones that already have their preferred sound signature.

So basically: If your earbuds share a similar signature to the Find 5 included buds, you'll appreciate Dirac HD's effects. Elsewise, if Dirac happens to shape your buds' signature into something you enjoy, then more power to it.
Meh. My NuForce NE-700Ms are already plenty V-shaped (my only complaint being that I have to run 4khz into the ground because it can be harsh. I still recommend them to you out there looking for a quality pair of IEMs at a decent price)

Only for information:
With the Stock Music App, which is not really bad you can switch between DIRAC, Dolby or turn every sound improvement off. But you must plug your headphone in otherwise you have in the speaker mode only a possibility to select Dolby or turn everything off..
So you can compare a little bit better how it works for you...

Moto X Style (Pure) 2015 Audio Quality

Anybody have anything to offer regarding the audio (headphone output) of the 2015 Moto X Pure Edition (Style)?
I cannot find any detailed reviews or comparisons.
It seems that audio is handled by the Snapdragon 808, but I can't find concrete details of this area of this phone.
I ordered a MXPE seeking better quality audio than the Kyocera Hydro Wave (I know, I know...), but now I'm reading that some other phones have better audio quality using dedicated DACs from audiophile-name companies.
TIA...

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Anybody have anything to offer regarding the audio (headphone output) of the 2015 Moto X Pure Edition (Style)?
I cannot find any detailed reviews or comparisons.
It seems that audio is handled by the Snapdragon 808, but I can't find concrete details of this area of this phone.
I ordered a MXPE seeking better quality audio than the Kyocera Hydro Wave (I know, I know...), but now I'm reading that some other phones have better audio quality using dedicated DACs from audiophile-name companies.
TIA...
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I can tell you this, vs. the Samsung Galaxy S6 I owned for 4 months the Moto X Pure 2015 is much better.
Exact same songs and player used on both. The output is louder also when I am sending via bluetooth in my car.
The sound overall seems richer with the exact same settings. This is based on Bose QC headset, streaming wirlessly to a Klipsh speaker, or streaming in my car.
CC

Sound on this phone is awesome!

Put viper4android on it
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I turned the moto audio enhancing off. My opinion is that the mids are really punchy. The lows mids are there but can get lost depending on type of music.
Highs seem to be the worst. Cymbals can be overpowering. Heavier music suffers most from this. It's probably a combination of how the phone handles loud music (mastered loud).
Overall I like the speakers and the audio experience that 'my phone' gives me. I came from Oneplus One, Note 4, Original Moto X.
Moto phones have the loudest speakers I have experienced in a phone.

daryllh said:
I turned the moto audio enhancing off. My opinion is that the mids are really punchy. The lows mids are there but can get lost depending on type of music.
Highs seem to be the worst. Cymbals can be overpowering. Heavier music suffers most from this. It's probably a combination of how the phone handles loud music (mastered loud).
Overall I like the speakers and the audio experience that 'my phone' gives me. I came from Oneplus One, Note 4, Original Moto X.
Moto phones have the loudest speakers I have experienced in a phone.
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How did you turn of the Moto Audio?

Sounds pretty good. I'm not much into reviewing and A/B'ing and using descriptive words, but to my ears they sound pretty good. Though normally I'll be using mine with an AMP/DAC and mine in particular is the FiiO E18.
I just did a quick 5 minute A/B for you even though 5 minutes will not reveal true differences well enough. I placed my Moto Pure up against my Note 2 (I'm not sure if the T-Mo Note 2 had the Wolfson chip as did the international or not) using Poweramp and defeated the EQ on both phones.
They both are loud and handle my Philips Fidelio X2's well, which are easy to drive cans. I left the FiiO out of the loop. TO ME, both phones had decent bass reproduction and trebles sounded clear but the Moto did SEEM to sound more airy. There seemed to be a bit of a "veil" over the sound of the Note 2, but to my surprise, I preferred it. Mind you, this difference is not large at all and again, 5 minutes isn't enough time to compare, but it is what it is.
So, if I were to use one purely for the headphone only output, I'd probably reach for my Note 2, but I would have ZERO issue getting great sound out of the Moto. Listening output is very subjective. What sounds good to me may not sound as well to you. Also, our minds need proper adjustment to the different sounds so as time rolled on I might just prefer the Moto Pure. And as always, YMMV.
ETA: Forgot to mention this was using a flac file and not just an MP3.

What about audio quality through the earpiece during a call?
Is it loud, clear? Can it be set too loud? Many smartphones ear piece audio is poor, especially in loud environments.

Who uses their phone as a phone?! Lol
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Locklear308 said:
How did you turn of the Moto Audio?
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It's an option in the sound and notification setting. It opens up the eq section.

daryllh said:
Who uses their phone as a phone?! Lol
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Sorry, I was born in the last century where we still communicated verbally

gpz1100 said:
Sorry, I was born in the last century where we still communicated verbally
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I was born 40 years ago. I got sick of talking to people about 6 years ago.

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Who uses their phone as a phone?! Lol
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It's an option in the sound and notification setting. It opens up the eq section.
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Ohhh I already set the EQ to all normal across the ranges, I guess that is what you mean?

Speakers are loud...louder than my OnePlus so that's loud lol..
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gpz1100 said:
Sorry, I was born in the last century where we still communicated verbally
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I can barely remember having only radio until we got our first B&W TV in 1953. It was a huge deal going from a party line to our very own telephone line around 1955. I watched Sputnik going over at age 7, along with every other person in my town (many thousands). My first device was a **** Tracy wristwatch, circa 1959. So I'd have to say the audio quality of my Moto XPE is pretty darned good! :laugh:

tony1208 said:
Speakers are loud...louder than my OnePlus so that's loud lol..
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The OPO sounds like a blown speaker. The Moto X PE has FANTASTIC speakers. Better than I thought possible, this is the GOLDEN standard.

Chiming in on my original question, now that I have the phone.
Headphone audio is MUCH better quality than the Kyocera Hydro Wave. (As might be expected.) MUCH more clean power, better clarity, less distortion.
I did not do any kind of exhaustive AxB or technical analysis, just a subjective listen.
If anyone has further info, especially technical/test data or controlled (blind AxB listening tests, etc.), this would also be cool to see. But I'm very happy with it.
Thanks...

Compared to the HTC One M8, how does the quality of speakers and headphones? I'm thinking about replacing my HTC and I really like the new Motorola.

Bisu007 said:
Compared to the HTC One M8, how does the quality of speakers and headphones? I'm thinking about replacing my HTC and I really like the new Motorola.
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From what I remember from my m8, which I haven't used for 7 months, it sounds just about the same. I do think the volume on my moto x sounds louder. I almost never have anything playing full volume through the speakers due to that. Haven't had any distortions either.
Haven't tested the headphone jack other than in my car once because my bluetooth got a little messed up. Definitely sounded better than my note 4 on both aux and bluetooth.

Compared to the Nexus 6, sound through headphones is much richer. I also disable the EQ.

Note that to get the best sound quality, the Audio Effects must be completely turned OFF (disabled completely), not just set to "normal EQ" or "EQ off" or whatever with Audio Effects still on (enabled).
I have to wonder what sort of wooden-ears Motorola manager approved releasing this phone with Audio Effects enabled by default. It significantly degrades audio quality.

Audio Quality Thoughts

So I just got my HTC U11 today and spent a few hours setting it up. I finally got around to trying out the phone's audio capabilities.
USonic - they sound good for out of the box earphones, but they're definitely not as good as my V-Moda Forza's. I could tell immediately. I doubt I'll use this.
DAC adapter - I'm conflicted. I'm still trying to decide whether or not the adapter sounds as good as my HTC 10. My initial impression is that it's not as good. The 10 has a cleaner, fuller soundstage. I'm really bummed about the BoomSound Dolby and tuning mode not being present on the U11. I've never really listened to the 10 without that mode on, so maybe that's the reason. The U11 doesn't sound bad though.
What do you guys think?

Good enough for 90%
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Good enough for 90%
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Pretty much this, most people will love it but I think anyone who had a HTC 10, an Axon 7, S7 Edge (Exynos, volume modded) will notice a bit of a step down. More so the AMP is weak rather than the DAC being bad (although Juan at PocketNow numbers show the DAC to be worse than the HTC 10, Axon 7, S7 Edge, iPhone 7).
I'm contemplating getting a Fiio K1

I just compared the sound quality between my 10 (without BoomSound on) and the U11, and they do sound quite similar.
This leads me to my disappointment -- why did they remove the BoomSound frequency tuning from the U11? It's nice that they have it for the USonic earphones, but why would you need to create multiple audio profiles for those earphones, if there's literally only one pair of earphones that can take advantage of that feature.

I'll have my thoughts later today using a dt770 as my comparison between the 10 and 11. They normally require more power than my HD600. I don't use high impedance/low sensitivity HPs with phones anyway but I figured I'd test.

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I just compared the sound quality between my 10 (without BoomSound on) and the U11, and they do sound quite similar.
This leads me to my disappointment -- why did they remove the BoomSound frequency tuning from the U11? It's nice that they have it for the USonic earphones, but why would you need to create multiple audio profiles for those earphones, if there's literally only one pair of earphones that can take advantage of that feature.
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Wondering this as well, you can't edit the audio profiles anyway so what is the point in having more than one profile

I've been happy about the audio quality so far. The problem I have is that we only get 1 of the DAC to 3.5mm adapter cables included. Now in order to use my music at home, in car, and at work I now have to carry the cable around with me. It is not ideal to have to carry around an adapter. Getting the included earphones is cool (sound okay) but would rather received a total of 4 adapter cables.
I went to order 4 more and found out that they are in pre-order status. I'll just have to wait until they come in. Once I have an adapter everywhere then I won't be so pissy about it. Really wish they would have kept the 3.5mm, then phone would be considered my best phone ever.

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I've been happy about the audio quality so far. The problem I have is that we only get 1 of the DAC to 3.5mm adapter cables included. Now in order to use my music at home, in car, and at work I now have to carry the cable around with me. It is not ideal to have to carry around an adapter. Getting the included earphones is cool (sound okay) but would rather received a total of 4 adapter cables.
I went to order 4 more and found out that they are in pre-order status. I'll just have to wait until they come in. Once I have an adapter everywhere then I won't be so pissy about it. Really wish they would have kept the 3.5mm, then phone would be considered my best phone ever.
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There really was no need to remove it, only to use a worse DAC/AMP in the adaptor.

GSM spoke highly of the headphone output. (http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u_11-review-1620p6.php)
Great audio output
The HTC U11 did splendidly in the first part of our audio test. When hooked to an active external amplifier it delivered very loud and perfectly accurate output.
When headphones come into play the volume remains nicely high and the only reading to take a hit is stereo crosstalk. It's a moderate amount of damage there and will all the other aspects of the performance remaining excellent, it's a great showing overall.
HTC U11 (headphones attached)
Frequency response: +0.05, -0.11 (+0.05, -0.02)
Noise Level: -94.1 (-93.7)
Dynamic Range: -94.1 (93.8)
THD: 0.0017 (0.0018)
IMD + Noise: 0.0067 (0.105)
Stereo crosstalk: -94.5 (-53.7)
HTC 10 (headphones attached)
Frequency response: +0.01, -0.03 (+0.06, -0.09)
Noise Level: -93.2 (-92.8)
Dynamic Range: -93.2 (93.0)
THD: 0.0022 (0.014)
IMD + Noise: 0.071 (0.141)
Stereo crosstalk: -92.8 (-77.9)
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My own personal experience, I found my DT770 to sound great but was 2 notches of volume below the 10. The 10 at volume 13/15 was the U11 at 15/15. I definitely can hear the crosstalk difference GSM has measured. Heard that before I saw the measurements. Overall, I can definitely live with this. Just hope I don't put myself in situations where I need to charge and listen.

My first impressions are that I'm not particularly impressed by the Usonic earphones - but then I don't usually use the earbuds that come with a phone.
Given the reviews here, I was a bit surprised to find the sound from the U11 adapter sounds better on first hearing than I was getting from the HTC 10, but then I haven't yet done a proper A-B comparison - it could be I was playing it a bit louder, or 'new device' enthusiasm...

As I said it already the 3.5mm adapter lacks Boomsound and this make a big difference with HTC 10, HTC can implement it in the FW of the adapter but we need to let them know we want it.

mosincredible said:
GSM spoke highly of the headphone output. (http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_u_11-review-1620p6.php)
My own personal experience, I found my DT770 to sound great but was 2 notches of volume below the 10. The 10 at volume 13/15 was the U11 at 15/15. I definitely can hear the crosstalk difference GSM has measured. Heard that before I saw the measurements. Overall, I can definitely live with this. Just hope I don't put myself in situations where I need to charge and listen.
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Agreed. I can see the logic behind HTC's decision, and I actually don't disagree with it. They dropped the headphone jack but added noise cancellation and a decent pair of earphones. This targets that iPhone userbase that only uses the awful in-box white ear buds. It's definitely better value for the money for the average user.
Perhaps they needed to compromise on sound quality, but it still sounds pretty fantastic with the adapter. It may not sound as good as the 10 (honestly though it's pretty close), but I'm not mad about it.

Which Boomsound speaker mode do you guys prefer? Music it theater mode? I feel like music more is crisper while tester is a bit longer but muddier.

MinimalistChris said:
Which Boomsound speaker mode do you guys prefer? Music it theater mode? I feel like music more is crisper while tester is a bit longer but muddier.
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I use theatre mode all the time but yes it is muddier than music mode which sacrifices volume for better audio quality

About stereo crosstalk can you ''fix'' it with V4A?
Or there are no way to enhance stereo?

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Which Boomsound speaker mode do you guys prefer? Music it theater mode? I feel like music more is crisper while tester is a bit longer but muddier.
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I usually use theatre mode. If I'm playing through the speakers, volume is more important to me.

On another note, I'm having this horrible issue with BT audio. When playing music in google play music through BT earphones (jaybird x2) or my home speaker (LG soundbar), occasionally there's a really loud, awful screeching noise!
Anyone else have this issue?
Otherwise, BT audio is noticeably improved over the 10!

djbutter said:
On another note, I'm having this horrible issue with BT audio. When playing music in google play music through BT earphones (jaybird x2) or my home speaker (LG soundbar), occasionally there's a really loud, awful screeching noise!
Anyone else have this issue?
Otherwise, BT audio is noticeably improved over the 10!
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Was listening with aptX in my car for a while today and I had no issues along with noticing no difference. Same volume level when connected to an Audioengine B1 that has a 2 volt output to my Audison bit-Ten. Wish I could do a quicker back and forth test with my 10 but I'd have to sync the Bluetooth over and over.

I have to admit that I'm a little bit worried about the sound quality on the u11. One of the things that I really enjoyed on the m8 m9 and the 10 was the Dolby audio enhancement. I have been using that in combination with power amp music player for years and you'd be surprised what kind of sound quality I get out of my Sennheiser HD 558's. I can hear the bass in music the way it is meant to be heard, almost felt, I don't hear that distorted bass sound that you tend to hear on lower end devices.
This may sound stupid to some people but if the sound quality is not at least the same as what I get on my 10 then I'm going to send the phone back. I just got done trying out a $300 pair of Bluetooth headphones with my 10 and I was not impressed, they were close in some areas but for $300 I want more than close. There is a cheaper pair that I have been thinking about trying with the 11 but I'm not sure that I'm going to want to invest all of this money just to be able to say I own the new flagship, and get half decent sound out of it with headphones, especially when for all intents and purposes I'm perfectly happy with my 10.
Right before the phone ended up shipping out to me I was debating on canceling my order because once the feeling of new shiny device wore off I started the question what about the new phone actually got me excited and to be perfectly honest the answer for me is really nothing. I think edge sense could be cool but the apparent lack of support from case manufacturers has me a bit scared as well. I have never owned an all glass phone before and I don't think you could pay me enough to use this phone without any full-body protection I understand that the camera is much better but honestly I don't see a problem with the one that I have. So this could be the first year that I actually hang on to my phone.

I just paired this phone with the Fiio K1 DAC. Much better audio experience. The HTC 10 apparently was better than the K1 by about 10% so the fact that the K1 sounds so good compared to the adapter is quite telling