I wanna get my first tablet. I was thinking about Asus Prime but Asus realeased a product full of bugs and issues that even ICS cant solve. The Galaxy Tab seems like a good product for me. My main use is HD videos, web browsing and reading. Games will be nice too
My main concern about the G Tab is there is no SD card slot. It is realy important to me. There is any way to connect an external memory to it?
How about ICS? did the G Tab get the update?
Thank you
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Should bring up a USB and SD Card reader adapter for the tablet.
ICS has yet to be released.
and the USB adapter is in the box (at least with mine)
tab 10.1 will get ICS someday (probably earlier with cyanogenmod )
I have the 10.1, and a good friend just got the Asus... all things said and done, i think the 10.1 wins out. The mod community (task650, cyanogen, b00sted, etc) are doing great things with ROM/theme development, so you won't be missing out on that front...
...but my biggest preference over the ASUS is the casing itself - it's surprisingly heavy in comparison, which was a big factor for me in selecting a tablet (if I wanted something bulky and heavy, I'd just carry my laptop around). The keyboard attachment available with the ASUS is better executed than the Samsung keyboard, admittedly - but with the plethora of virtual keyboards available, I find myself rarely missing a physical keyboard. As for the lack of SD slot, I have the USB adapter (3rd party one, but works great - and was far cheaper than the official Samsung one), and have a 4gb stick I use with no issues... the sticks need to be formatted in FAT-32 to work, although pershoot's kernel offers NTFS support.
My two cents - good luck!
I have the 32GB version of the 10.1 and I also have the USB adapter, (the Samsung version). I've had the device since launch day and have yet to run out of internal space. Nevertheless, I have a 64GB usb thumbdrive and have, on occasion plugged it into the tab via the USB adapter to copy a movie to it or transfer a file to the USB drive. I've never had a problem with this setup, so it seems viable. As for an answer to your second question, there are already ICS ROMs available here on XDA, (most if not all are in Alpha,) and Samsung is releasing an ICS update for the entire 2011 range of Galaxy Tabs, (10.1, 8.9, 7.0 Plus, and 7.7.) I hope this info helps. Good luck with your decision.
Thanks for your comments. It is really a hard decision. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 ןד a stable, fast and reliable device, but its Tegra 2 device while the Tegra 3 is coming. I think I will wait a little to see whats coming next.
The G TAB 10.1 seems to be a little expensive for me, compare to the Prime technology. They both 499 USD but at least on paper, the Prime is better.
same price? go with Prime obviously!
One thing I would advise if going with the prime though, is waiting until the newer version comes out. ASUS released the first prime with some rather serious design flaws in the back panel that cause poor wifi, bluetooth, and GPS reception, (the GPS being the most serious.) As a result, they have released an updated version with a new back panel that purports to fix these issues. The unfortunate thing is that the updated Tranfsormer Prime is going to be set at $600-$700 here in the US, so it will be a great deal more expensive than the 10.1, and with the lack of apps that are optimized for dual core, let alone quad core, I don't think the extra $100-$200 is justified. Just my two cents.
czesiu said:
same price? go with Prime obviously!
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Have you read the front page of their forum? It's falling apart. Five friends bought the Prime over the holidays and three are returning it.
I had a prime on order due to be delivered tomorrow, but the day after iCS was released I canceled the order. I knew it had gps issues, but it seems like the update is jacking up some tablets and I don't want to take the chance. I bought the SGT 10.1 today with the bluetooth logitech android keyboard. I will consider selling it on ebay is 6+ months if something better comes along that I just must have. I will give this a try though, its charging up now! I know I didn't want to pay $650 (tablet and dock) for something that is potentially broken out the box...
I have not decided yet if I go on the Galaxy or not. I have few more questions:
Can I connect a bluetooth keyboard/mouse to it?
Does it have HDMI output? From what I found, an adaptor is needed.
Well, games are not the reason that I want a tablet, but how the Galaxy run games? I mean, its smooth? laggy?
Thanks
BarryH_GEG said:
Have you read the front page of their forum? It's falling apart.
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So I hopped over to the first page of the Transformer Prime General forum and I was floored! I knew that it was having issues and that customers were up-in-arms about it, but I didn't realize the true extent of the problem until I looked at that thread. With as many problems as this device is having, the locked bootloader seems like the least of their problems, but unlocking it is definitely a priority so that a dev can go in and clean up the mess that ASUS seems to have made with this software. The hardware, on the other hand, is another story. No amount of XDA wizardry can fix poorly designed hardware. It seems that ASUS rushed the Prime to market, and in an attempt to be "belle of the ball," as it were, at CES, they rushed this ICS update which seems to have added to owner's woes.
Here's a list of the most prevalent issues with the Transformer Prime, pulled from their "General" section:
1. GPS Issues: GPStest showing no signal whatsoever. Device can't get GPS lock)
2. Wifi Issues: Poor Connectivity/unable to connect to wifi.
3. Bluetooth Issues: Poor Connectivity
4. "Unknown Serial" Error: Many devices are unable to get OTA updates due to the fact that the system can't recognize their serial number. (This one is horrendously bad)
5. MicroSD card slot: Some owners are loosing their cards due to improper design of the slot. Apparently the placeholder from the Prime is very similar to a standard MicroSD, but is not the same size in order to stay in the devices' slot and fit flush.
6. Dock problems with USB: Apparently some of the the docks are incapable of powering or mounting usb devices unless you put the tablet in the dock, connect the USB device, and then restart the tablet while everything is connected.
7. Lockup/Reboot: Since the ICS update, (for those who dodged the "unknown serial" bullett,) the tablet will randomly freeze, the screen will lock up and it will reboot itself.
8. Screen "Banding": After the update, some devices are experiencing "banding," a display of horizontal bars across the screen which interrupt the display and render the underlying display partially visible/unusable.
The issues above are just a few that I've picked out after reading through the first 2 pages of the "General" section in the Transformer Prime forums here at XDA. I pinpointed these issues for a few reasons. First, they have been confirmed by other members/owners and are widespread. Second, they are all recent. Third, these are all rather serious and are not merely the complaints of people upset with functionality or UI changes or issues that can be solved by a mere reboot/reset. It would seem that the Prime, Tegra 3 or not, is not a good bet. If you want a tablet now, go with the 10.1 If you're not sold on the 10.1, there are plenty of other Android tablets out there for you to choose from. For now though, I'd steer clear of the ASUS Transformer Prime
bar_rodoy said:
I have not decided yet if I go on the Galaxy or not. I have few more questions:
Can I connect a bluetooth keyboard/mouse to it?
Does it have HDMI output? From what I found, an adaptor is needed.
Well, games are not the reason that I want a tablet, but how the Galaxy run games? I mean, its smooth? laggy?
Thanks
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You can connect a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the tab. I have an Apple bluetooth wireless keyboard (the slim aluminum version), and a Kensington Slimblade Bluetooth mouse. I connect both of them to the tab at once and it is like having a very light, slim, sexy laptop.
You will need an adapter, but you can have HDMI out. You might also want to look into things like allshare and DNLA. These are apps and standards that allow you to stream contents from your tablet to other devices in your home.
Games are wonderful. Although I rarely ever play them, I've loaded mine up with the big games, and they all work wonderfully.
rkmj said:
You can connect a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the tab. I have an Apple bluetooth wireless keyboard (the slim aluminum version), and a Kensington Slimblade Bluetooth mouse. I connect both of them to the tab at once and it is like having a very light, slim, sexy laptop.
You will need an adapter, but you can have HDMI out. You might also want to look into things like allshare and DNLA. These are apps and standards that allow you to stream contents from your tablet to other devices in your home.
Games are wonderful. Although I rarely ever play them, I've loaded mine up with the big games, and they all work wonderfully.
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OK, and thats only with one core because ICS isnt out yet, so its sounds great. I found a seller on Ebay that sells the G Tab 10.1 at about 420 USD. I will go for it. Thank you all!
I am super bummed! I have two x10's and BOTH of the micro usb ports on the phones finally crapped out today. I can't get my phone to charge/flash etc. I realize this is a defect of x10's but I have been able to use the micro usb semi damaged by just pushing it forward a bit and resting it against something. Now...nothing, nada. I guess I could buy a universal battery charger to charge the battery (if they even work???) and a microsd reader to put new zips on my phone but how am I supposed to flash kernals without a working micro usb? Is it possible to even do so? I hope that I can talk my phone company into giving me an early phone upgrade since mine isn't due until the end of August! Otherwise I think I may be up a creek without a cell phone...
Edit: I just needed a new cord.:rolleyes
Remove please mods
Yes it is worth mentioning that a new Sony branded USB lead can most of the time fix port connection issues so do not always think the worst.
My X10 had issues for nearly a year but when i got a Arc s and tried that USB cable it worked perfect so now flashing roms is easy again and 2 years on the X10 is going strong.
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Going to pick my z4 up from the vzw store today. Will test my usb c to hdmi hub adapter. Worked for my galaxy note. To bypass using dex so i could plug my phone mouse and keyboard to any hdmi tv. Got online for $11 worked great. Going to see if the z4 works for this and test out its otg capabilities today. Will let yall know
Also going to look into getting root. After i contact moto to see if we can get device on there bootloader unlock list
No go on the usb c to hdmi hub. Detects charging. But does not extend the display to the hdmi device. Tested on one of my tvs . Will test on my samsung smart but i doubt that makes a difference.
Regarding the bootloader unlock, are you saying it's possible that the VZ branded Z4 may be eligible through Moto's portal? I tried it and, as predicted, it failed. I just assumed all VZ phones are locked down.
I don't think any support MHL anymore as Miracast and Googlecast replaced it. Tried OTG and no worky. But, please prove me wrong.
Any luck on unlocking the bootloader? I've never had a Verizon phone but I came across this z4 practically brand new for a 100 bucks so I picked it up. If I knew that u couldn't unlock the bootloader I would have passed.
No dice on the bootloader. I emailed moto have heard nothing. No mhl no ucb c hub to hdmi . Its unfortunite i love this phone aside from that. Maybe if we bug the heck out of moto they will add it to there bootloader unlock. It worked for older vzw moto z devices. In other news I went to vzw paid $200 for the projector mod. A little disappointed. Not bright enough. At close distance maybe max of 40" its pretty decent. Only on a white surface with lights off.
detects charging, but doesn't actually charge
At least that's what the usb-c "charging bridge" I tried did. I am very disappointed, I can use the OTG keyboard and mouse through the usb-c adapter, the charge indicator came on... but no charge.. The battery ran down.
Is this what you found? I only tried one adapter.
I also discovered the moto Z4 is the only Android I've ever found a wired Xbox compatible controller to not work on OTG, the device shows up as a usb device but isn't recognized as a controller on this phone. ???
silver03wrx said:
No go on the usb c to hdmi hub. Detects charging. But does not extend the display to the hdmi device. Tested on one of my tvs . Will test on my samsung smart but i doubt that makes a difference.
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This may not be the place but I haven't seen a debloat thread specific to the z4. I ordered one today after the sammy a50 didn't support 1x or 3g. I've only owned a droid x, s3, and s5 cid15. All rooted and with custom roms. But I'm afraid no root or unlocked bootloader for the z4.
Even so, I know you can uninstall or disable apps for the current user on the device through adb. Have you guys done any debloating of the verizon crap thats installed on the z4 from vzw?
I'm sure it can be done with adb but I'm not sure how effective it is.. My understanding is that the user you uninstall the apps for will no longer load or run for that user.
One other question is can this device be themed with andromeda since it's fairly close to aosp from what I've read. If not can it be themed at all. Thanks all for your assistance.