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[Q] Camera Grainy

Hey all,
I've had my N4 for a week now and a couple of days ago I gave the camera a go. I have to say that I'm not impressed at all. Most all pics came out grainy. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm thinking of returning it. Now I don't use the camera a whole lot, but sometimes when a picture presents its self and I don't have my DSLR the cell camera is what I have. I would like the pics to look descent. I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S and with a 5MP camera and no LED flash it takes better pics than the N4. Is it the stock JB software for the camera and using another camera app would fix it?
Thanks,
Chevy

chevy2410 said:
Hey all,
I've had my N4 for a week now and a couple of days ago I gave the camera a go. I have to say that I'm not impressed at all. Most all pics came out grainy. Has anyone else experienced this? I'm thinking of returning it. Now I don't use the camera a whole lot, but sometimes when a picture presents its self and I don't have my DSLR the cell camera is what I have. I would like the pics to look descent. I'm coming from a Samsung Galaxy S and with a 5MP camera and no LED flash it takes better pics than the N4. Is it the stock JB software for the camera and using another camera app would fix it?
Thanks,
Chevy
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there will be grain in low-light but it's not too bad to my eyes.
if it bothers you, you could use flash; try another camera app, like camera zoom fx, that lets you control iso; or clean up the grain in post with noise-ninja or similar.
i never expect too much from phone cameras but they can produce decent results if you work within their limitations.
EDIT: i downloaded camera zoom fx yesterday and would highly recommend it over the stock camera app.

[Q] Camera performance after Jishnu/xdabebb mod?

Hi all, I 've been thinking of buying a new phone & I really like the g2 very much but the only thing that is stopping me is the camera performance.
Can someone please tell me after the Jishu/xdadebb mod how is the camera performance under low light, how is the autofocus in low light also is the continuous autofocus in the video problem resolved. How much is the shutter lag after the mod.
I really want to buy this device for the camera & its under my budget if the camera ain't good enough even after the mods I may go with oppo find 7a/oneplus one which are in the same budget but have better camera.

I dont capture my photos in low light. But the camera is pretty amazing with xdadebb mod, and Mi2Raw enables the G2 to capture raw footage as well.
The G2 and G3 has the same camera sensor, just that the G3 has a Z-Axis image stabiliser and laser autofocus. So if I were you, I'll go look at those camera comparisons on review sites comparing the G3, OnePlus One and the Oppo.
Edit: Video performance is pretty good too. xdadebb camera mod allows for tap to focus in video to focus your subject and it works well. It has object tracking too!
Edit 2: With dorimanx's kernel, I was able to turn down the mic gain when I was at a concert. That + the stereo recording = pretty awesome recording

Thanks @lowjinyik.
Anyone else using these mods please comment about the low light performace after the mod.

I haven't tried taking pictures in low-light conditions yet, I should, will do and compare later but under bright, sunshine outdoor, with Normal mode, I see virtually no difference in term of performance and image quality. There are several features that I haven't tried out yet.

mayur2j said:
Hi all, I 've been thinking of buying a new phone & I really like the g2 very much but the only thing that is stopping me is the camera performance.
Can someone please tell me after the Jishu/xdadebb mod how is the camera performance under low light, how is the autofocus in low light also is the continuous autofocus in the video problem resolved. How much is the shutter lag after the mod.
I really want to buy this device for the camera & its under my budget if the camera ain't good enough even after the mods I may go with oppo find 7a/oneplus one which are in the same budget but have better camera.
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The low light camera quality is good. The mod makes very little difference to low light pictures.

Thanks guys for your responses. I think I might go with oppo find7. It's better than the g2 in every aspect except battery life & OS updates. Which can be taken care by the VOOC charger & custom roms respectively.

Post Front Camera Pictures

Hey,
Can I get some full quality pictures posted from the Note 4 Front Camera? Good & Bad lighting, With and Without Beautyface.
They don't need to be selfies, but I would like a few to be.
I noticed my Note 4 when taking front camera pictures and selfies suck compared to my Note 3.
I tried recreating the same pictures (same room, same lighting, same angle) I took with the Note 3 and the White Balance is way off, there are more artifacts, and distortion, and the pictures really are not in focus, especially at a minor distance on the Note 4. Even lights in pictures have an starburst/halo effect that others don't seem to get on the same shot.
I contacted Samsung and they had me pretty much clear app cache and data and factory reset the mobile. Not much help.
I wanted to see if this is just the norm for the Note 4 or if I have a bad cmos sensor or whatever before I send it for repair or exchange.
With full spectrum daylight led and cfl bulbs, all front pictures are yellow hueued. Adjusting the white balance helps, but shows more artifacts and can't be done in apps like snapchat, skype, google hangouts... pretty much anything you would use a front camera for that's not a camera app selfie. I even have a softbox setup with proper professional lighting and images show up with lots of artifacts and halos.
It's almost as if it's ever slightly out of focus and when the system API jpeg compresses it, it shows sloppy artifacts.

My cat took a selfie the other day! Lol! Not sure if this will get alot of replies. Most of us are too ugly for front camera shots

sino8r said:
My cat took a selfie the other day! Lol! Not sure if this will get alot of replies. Most of us are too ugly for front camera shots
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Thanks, they don't have to be face shots. Like point it at a bottle of something with text on it or pictures.

htmltag said:
Thanks, they don't have to be face shots. Like point it at a bottle of something with text on it or pictures.
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Yeah I know. Couldn't resist though. Hehehehe! I'll play around with it some and see if I notice what you mentioned. What rom are you using? Have you tried the camera mod and talked to the guy who's been modifying the camera apk? Here's the link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/themes-apps/mod-camera-quality-mod-t2917502

sino8r said:
Yeah I know. Couldn't resist though. Hehehehe! I'll play around with it some and see if I notice what you mentioned. What rom are you using? Have you tried the camera mod and talked to the guy who's been modifying the camera apk? Here's the link...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/themes-apps/mod-camera-quality-mod-t2917502
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I'm on Stock Rooted Rom.
I have used multiple apps with the same result.
Apps that allow you to adjust the exposure and white balance can compensate a little.
I have a feeling when Android 5.x is released for our phones, if Samsung updates the driver to allow raw images, things would get a lot better.
It would be nice if you could adjust camera variable defaults in the OS for applications that don't provide an interface to them.
I am definitely going to check out that modded camera app. Thanks for pointing me at it.
Even if it doesn't make a difference, "No audio interruption if listening to music" alone is worth it.

htmltag said:
I'm on Stock Rooted Rom.
I have used multiple apps with the same result.
Apps that allow you to adjust the exposure and white balance can compensate a little.
I have a feeling when Android 5.x is released for our phones, if Samsung updates the driver to allow raw images, things would get a lot better.
It would be nice if you could adjust camera variable defaults in the OS for applications that don't provide an interface to them.
I am definitely going to check out that modded camera app. Thanks for pointing me at it.
Even if it doesn't make a difference, "No audio interruption if listening to music" alone is worth it.
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Yeah mine seems a little like that with the modded camera. I noticed the yellowed tint a little but it seems to be related to the lack of flash and it seems like it's being processed like it's in low light mode to make up for lack of a flash. Have you tried in day outside with alot of light? Might help a little. Not a fan of those low light/night modes. They are alway pixeled up and blurry. Look like sh!t most of the time. I've never used the front facing camera much on my phone or even on my computer. All my friends, family, and gf live here in town so I haven't had much need for it much. Sucks, I know, for those who need it. But!... Like you said, the lack of timer, audio interruptions and now that the camera works while on a phone call makes the camera mod worth it. Maybe the driver could be modded or at least the software related to it could be cleaned up by a dev or future updates might improve stuff some. You never know... Let us know if you think the camera mod helped any with the FFC at all. I just don't use it enough to know for sure. Thanks!

Selfie
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Thanks donnyp1, it appears you have Christmas spirits in there. You're in the spirit, you have spirits (drinks), and it looks like there is a Christmas Spirit hovering behind you guys.

All over it. This phone takes great selfies. This wasnt one of my better ones. Merry Christmas
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Representin'
I thought this might be appropriate...

The AT&T version never took sloppy shots. I'm experiencing a poor performing front facing camera on the T-Mobile Note 4 as well. Solution is, use the rear facing camera.
htmltag said:
Hey,
Can I get some full quality pictures posted from the Note 4 Front Camera? Good & Bad lighting, With and Without Beautyface.
They don't need to be selfies, but I would like a few to be.
I noticed my Note 4 when taking front camera pictures and selfies suck compared to my Note 3.
I tried recreating the same pictures (same room, same lighting, same angle) I took with the Note 3 and the White Balance is way off, there are more artifacts, and distortion, and the pictures really are not in focus, especially at a minor distance on the Note 4. Even lights in pictures have an starburst/halo effect that others don't seem to get on the same shot.
I contacted Samsung and they had me pretty much clear app cache and data and factory reset the mobile. Not much help.
I wanted to see if this is just the norm for the Note 4 or if I have a bad cmos sensor or whatever before I send it for repair or exchange.
With full spectrum daylight led and cfl bulbs, all front pictures are yellow hueued. Adjusting the white balance helps, but shows more artifacts and can't be done in apps like snapchat, skype, google hangouts... pretty much anything you would use a front camera for that's not a camera app selfie. I even have a softbox setup with proper professional lighting and images show up with lots of artifacts and halos.
It's almost as if it's ever slightly out of focus and when the system API jpeg compresses it, it shows sloppy artifacts.
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That's an unfortunate answer.

I notice with face beauty set to 4 and up it creates a blur effect so I slide all the way off and my images are sharper but I haven't noticed and yellow tint that some of you are reporting.

TERRIBLE pictures?

Has anyone found a fix for their phone taking terrie pictures? Any kind of indoor photos I take, any source if light is blinding. For such a high mp camera the detail is awful as well. My nexus 6p with an 11mp camera took infinitely better pictures, and that's really disappointing. There's also a lot of noise!

Try different camera apps. Some apps seem to take better pictures than others.
But I also noticed that pictures often look bad with low lighting.

I don't think you need my help anymore, but the priv has a bad camera app

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Moto G5S Plus come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

Images are not very sharp. If you are looking for good camera, look for another device. Panorama mode has low resolution, even when camera is 13MPx panoramas are usually smaller than that. You can fix this by changing camera application. But this only helps with panorama. But overall image sharpens will not improve with any app.

Post capture processing really sucks!!!
Is there any way to disable it?

Agreed about the post processing - makes pictures very soft. Colour rendition is really good. White balance, contrast, dynamic range all reasonable. Focus a bit slow but ok. Correctly exposing for backlit subjects pretty good.
Video is good, except sometimes looks like it's lacking in bitrate. Will try OpenCamera and see if I can tweak this.
Overall rating: 5 out of 10. Would go to 7 if Moto fix the image softness.

Can anyone post some pictures taken with this phone. I have a Galaxy S5 and I'm looking for an upgrade.

Anyone checked the latest moto camera 2 version?
I think picture quality is still the same but there is reduction in yellowish tint(i dont like yellowish pics)....

I'm impressed with the dynamic range and colours, which seem to be very good. The main issues with the camera are lack of detail and poor low light performance. I'd imagine the first one is fixable via software but I have doubts about the sensors low light ability.
Overall photos are well exposed and colours are good, but my main issue is grainy images when you zoom in on photos.

This camera is horrid. Granted, I'm coming from a 6p, but found some pics taken with my old old droid x, and they were miles ahead of this thing they call a camera. Time to break out the d5100 again!

The camera is disgusting. I was so ambitious about the camera and it disappointed me miserably.

I don't know what some of you are expecting. Its the best phone in the mid-range, compared to its specifications. BUT somewhere the missing money, becomes visible. In this phone its the cam. The cam is useful if enough light is present.

In a potratit mode camera work properly
How much time take and focus proper work after every update
In a custom ROM camera work proper with every mode

Whoops. Delete my post.
For some reason I got confused and posted about how impressed I am with the photos from my Moto G5+ here, I didn't realize it was the section for the newer S model until after posting.
I've heard the dual camera thing with the S hasn't been so great in the real world, and the sensor in the regular G5+ (which is similar to the one found in the Galaxy S7) may actually be capable of better shots. But I think its because Moto is weird about the software that runs the camera, with over-processing and highlight clipping that can be avoided with better software. Using an app that handles Camera2 makes a huge difference on the G5+, which I was originally posting about until I realized I'm in the wrong place. Sorry guys!

The problem with the camera in this phone is almost 100% software. The automatic settings of the Moto camera app generate horrible photos.
Look at your photo information (when viewing the photo in Google Photos, tap the "i" icon at the bottom) and specifically note the ISO. With this sensor hardware anything over ISO400 is going to be relatively unusable (mottled/blurry detail/sharpness with image noise). If you shoot the same photo in "Professional Mode" manually setting the ISO (at or below ISO400) and the shutter speed, the results are actually quite acceptable, if not even very good.
The flash on this camera is a much more natural color (somewhere in the 2000k range rather than the usual bright white LED >5000k), so using the flash (when feasible) in combination with better manual settings will also help.
Even using manual settings there's still some post-processing fickery going on, but that's still all software. I wish Moto would add an option to turn post-processing off. I think they don't have that option though because most people use the camera in fully automatic mode and the pictures would be REALLY bad if they weren't post-processed when using that mode.
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Any better flashing a custom Rom or different camera app?
Hi, a friend's of mine buy the moto g5s plus thinking it's gona be better for the photo of the moto g4 he still have.
Result that the photo are not so good, moto g4 it's better.
But someone have already try to install a custom Rom on the moto g5 plus, maybe with Oreo, and result any improvement on the camera and photo?
Or try a different mod for the camera app that result in a improvement for the camera?
If anyone have try that way and can share it's result and opinion about it I will appreciated. My friend don't want to avoid the warranty of the phone for nothing.
Thanks.

Iurop said:
Hi, a friend's of mine buy the moto g5s plus thinking it's gona be better for the photo of the moto g4 he still have.
Result that the photo are not so good, moto g4 it's better.
But someone have already try to install a custom Rom on the moto g5 plus, maybe with Oreo, and result any improvement on the camera and photo?
Or try a different mod for the camera app that result in a improvement for the camera?
If anyone have try that way and can share it's result and opinion about it I will appreciated. My friend don't want to avoid the warranty of the phone for nothing.
Thanks.
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Are you talking about g5 plus or g5s plus? Because you mention the one with the s.

Hi, yeah I'm talking about the moto g5s plus. I saw in the xda forum that are present a tread about camera mods, and for use those mod need to enable the full access to API2 cam. But looks like that the main problem with the moto g5s plus camera it's not solved in that way.
For that I though that maybe install a custom Rom, possibly with Oreo, helps or solve the camera issue, considering that the real problem it's software not the hardware. There are many Rom with Oreo to try, for that I'll ask if someone already try that way and get the problem solved, or better wait for an official update from motorola-lenovo and see if they solve.

in low light conditions the result is really bad, with the light discrete but not excelled

Camera is mid range and awfull fotos.... For me isn't very good. Videos are much better
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? with gcam

Taken with gcam on g5+ I had my A7RII with me on this trip, but took some shots with my phone as well because the HDR+ effect in camera is just THAT good.
Even records raw so I can edit later, but these are straight out of camera. Have some great shots even in lower indoor light from the trip, but they are of family members I'd rather not post on the internet. Even compared to my "real" pro camera, if used properly this is capable of some excellent shots.