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[Q] Do you regret not waiting and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X

Just taking a poll. Me personally I kind of did at first but now not so much, do wish we had marshmallow already. Oneplus two's build quality might be superior.

I'm selling my OP2 as soon as my Nexus 6P arrives (next week). The OP2 isn't a bad phone at all, but I REALLY miss not having front facing speakers... That has turned out to be a deal-killer for me.
Since 2012, I've had phones with front facing speakers and I thought I would try the OP2 and see if I could live without them, but it seems I can't

I was planning to sell the OPT and buy a 6p but not one person in the world wants to pay more then €300 for it while I paid €450 for it 4 weeks ago. It's definitely not like the OPO, I could have sell it with profit last year. The OPT was a bad decision and it's the f***ing invite that made me buy it. I think my wife won't let me buy the 6p so I'm a little disappointed now.

Technically, in terms of raw performance the Oneplus 2 trumps over the Nexus 6P any day. That full HD display helps a lot in the battery (at least in my experience with the OP2 and 6P). Only factor limiting such potentiality is the damn OXygen OS, which in my experience has yet to gain proper optimization with the hardware, but then custom roms with that are cm based are already quite buttery smooth in user experience. Oneplus 2 has superior camera, and with the latest software update, video recording has been fixed. Overall, in my opinion, some of the advantages of getting the NExus 6p if you are a character with little knowledge in android hacking are faster software updates, front facing speakers, gorgeous AMOLED display (but then again the QHD evidently takes a hit on the battery), larger developer community( I might be wrong, but then OP2 already has a significant amount of devs), and stock android experience. lol

Both Nexus 5x and 6p are more expensive than OPT. So i definitely not regret buying OPT week after release! It was great phone for me since i got it, sure some bugs there and there but overall very satisfied with it. There are better smartphones, but in this price range - OPT is still one of the best.

Since the 64gb version 6p is 270€ ($300) more expensive than the OPT I am not even thinking about it.

I'm very happy with my Oneplus Two. In india, i can buy 2 Oneplus Two for the price of 1 Nexus 6p 64gb. So i definitely don't regret buying Oneplus Two.

Kirahvi said:
Since the 64gb version 6p is 270€ ($300) more expensive than the OPT I am not even thinking about it.
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This. It's not really a fair comparison as the Oneplus 2 so much cheaper. I would probably buy a 6P if I could justify the additional cost, but for the money I think the Oneplus 2 is great

shigi1231 said:
Technically, in terms of raw performance the Oneplus 2 trumps over the Nexus 6P any day. That full HD display helps a lot in the battery (at least in my experience with the OP2 and 6P). Only factor limiting such potentiality is the damn OXygen OS, which in my experience has yet to gain proper optimization with the hardware, but then custom roms with that are cm based are already quite buttery smooth in user experience. Oneplus 2 has superior camera, and with the latest software update, video recording has been fixed. Overall, in my opinion, some of the advantages of getting the NExus 6p if you are a character with little knowledge in android hacking are faster software updates, front facing speakers, gorgeous AMOLED display (but then again the QHD evidently takes a hit on the battery), larger developer community( I might be wrong, but then OP2 already has a significant amount of devs), and stock android experience. lol
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Really? [email protected] i mean
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btw, I am not native English speaker and i guess the topic title can be potentially a little a bit ambiguous ?
Do you regret [not waiting and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X]
Do you [regret not waiting] and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X

y7038862 said:
Really? [email protected] i mean
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btw, I am not native English speaker and i guess the topic title can be potentially a little a bit ambiguous ?
Do you regret [not waiting and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X]
Do you [regret not waiting] and getting the Nexus 6P or 5X
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yes, it is still by default in 1080P 30FPS. Oneplus has yet to release another software update that would inculcate the 60FPS functionality in FHD recording. The camera can shoot with that frames.

shigi1231 said:
yes, it is still by default in 1080P 30FPS. Oneplus has yet to release another software update that would inculcate the 60FPS functionality in FHD recording. The camera can shoot with that frames.
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That's nice.
It's been confirmed?

Well let me add to this thread that I do regret it as my oneplus two home button went dead yesterday. Pretty disappointing.

No regrets so far. Google went crazy at prices in Europe. For the same space and specs they sell it for twice the price for an OnePlus 2 64GB. Yes, I blame Google for it, because the 6P is ugly as hell. Well, I don't care that much about design, but if I pay twice the price, I'd consider to buy a LG G4 rather than a Nexus 6P.

To make everything simple, Oneplus 2 has potentials of surpassing even the latest flagships of today in terms of software experience. The specifications surpass or at par with the greatest today. Like i've said, only thing limiting the full potentials of this phone is Oxygen OS. If Oneplus would fix the bugs and stuttering of the Oxygen OS, this device would be even faster (technically) than a nexus 6P.
In terms of capturing images, it can go toe to toe even with the note 5, or G4 (which are the best in the smarthphone industry today.). GO check the reviews with the camera that has the Oxygens OS 2.1.1 if you want proof.
Display appreciation is subjective. An AMOLED panel would have high saturation as compared to the true to life colors of an IPS LCD display. QHD is just overkill, and it is a minuscule update from a FHD display. 5 - 6 inches will not give significant changes if upgrade to a QHD.

I'm quite the opposite. Glad I've bought OP2 instead of waiting Nexus 6P.
Some more interesting stuff:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/1...rting-spontaneously-broken-rear-glass-panels/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/3rwc6p/nexus_6p_back_glass_window_has_just_spontaneously/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3cWVdLqXCg

Glad to have both. The 6P is much nicer, hardware-wise, while the OP2 makes a good beater.
That said, I really hope the OP3 has a QHD AMOLED. A decent screen would take OnePlus to the next level.

CrashTestDroid said:
Glad to have both. The 6P is much nicer, hardware-wise, while the OP2 makes a good beater.
That said, I really hope the OP3 has a QHD AMOLED. A decent screen would take OnePlus to the next level.
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Why do you feel the 6P is nicer? I'm about to pull the trigger.

SysAdmNj said:
Why do you feel the 6P is nicer? I'm about to pull the trigger.
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Basically this:
Camera is important to me, you can read all about the differences but the 6P is decidedly superior.
Display: brighter, more contrast, accurate colors and of course it's bigger too. I expect some degree of minor burn-in after a year or two but in the meantime this QHD AMOLED is incredible, compared to the washed-out and dimmer FHD display of a OP2.
Fingerprint sensor on the 6P is quick and all the upcoming roms will support it, while OP2's FP sensor only works with OP's closed source rom until Carl Pei gets the ball rolling.
Front facing speakers. Wish OP2 had something even 20% as good.
128 fat gigabytes. Case closed.
In OP2's favor:
I wish Huawei outfitted the 6P with a Sandstone back or skin. Slippery aluminum of the 6P is nearly as bad as glass or glossy plastic
Acceptable bezel. The 6P's bezels are a bit big for my liking, though nowhere near Apple or HTC
dualSIM! Great because I travel a lot
notification slider
My overall preferences are 6P > OP2 > S6 if that helps.

Hope they better the Oxygen OS and would take full advantage of the powerful hardware

Buy or not Meizu M5 PRO? Or rather a Nexus 6P?

Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)

I want to answer your question by comparing both phones in each category.
Design:
I started with design part because, for me it's very important part. I like meizu pro 5 design much more than 6p not saying 6p is not good but, 2.5D glass with looking similar to Iphone in front is not a bad thing in meizu and better than 6p here. I prefer Fingerprint as a home button on meizu at the front much more than in 6p at the back. ( Not to mention how innovative home button of meizu will change the way of using this phone when you getting used to it and you cannot compare it with any other android phone). Also design of meizu at the back is also more beautiful in my opinion as it's a little similar to htc one series. Also 10g less weight in meizu should be a little more suitable in hand.
Camera:
About camera in meizu it does pretty decent job in good light maybe even better than 6p specially better in detail comparison but, in low light you should either use manual mode or accept quality of auto mod which is not bad but, differently 6p is better but, not much better.
Selfie with front camera is definitely better (more detail) in 6p but, for internet both do good job here.
Processor:
The main problem in 6p is qualcomm 810 processor which is a big no for me specially compare to Exynos 7420 which is arguably the best in the market for now (even compare to karin 950) and you will never feel a hot phone in your hand or lag due to hot temperature of cpu and much more energy efficient than Q 810. (Not fan of Antutu benchmarks but, recently Meizu take the crown from Huawei karin 950 chipset in Huawei Mate 8!)
Softwere:
On the other hand meizu apparently is new to world market and cannot support their phone like google but, in future with custom roms it will be okay I think (do not expect near future!) Meizu does not come with unlock bootloader and apparently there is no way to unlock it and it may take so long to either someone manage to unlock it (very difficult + lack off good developers due to less popularity of meizu and the phone itself) or company give us a way to do it so, do not except support of developers or company like 6p. Meizu will definitely upgrade meizu pro 5 to marshmallow but, time is unknown.
Also if you really like pure android experience which I don't! heavily skin of Flyme OS on top of android in meizu may become a big problem for you. Lack of app drawer or design of home screen or even default apps are not a big deal as you can get a good launchers now a day specially with htc sense launcher and apps but, other part like setting menu and notification drawer and etc will be always the flyme one!
Screen
Comparing the screen, there should not be much differences as both phones using very similar amoled technology and panel. Yes 2k vs full hd but, 2k display of 6p is not as good as samsung new flagships like gs6 or note 5. Brightness of both phones are almost similar. I don't think you will notice the differences here in display part in daily usage because, differences of 2k displays are not very recognizable in human eyes in phones bellow 7" screens. But, if it does for you it's just a little more sharper but, not better in contrast, color and etc.
In 6p you will get gorilla glass 4 which is better when you drop the phone and can manage much more pressure here but, not as good as gorilla glass 3 (meizu pro 5) in scratch resistance part. If you use screen protector no problem here for both phones.
Audio:
Yes 6p has dual speaker in front which is more suitable when watching something or listening to musics with speakers but, meizu on the other hand support Hi-Fi audio so, provide much better quality sound specially when you plug a headphone which 6p was unfortunately poor here.
Hardware/Connectivity/Network/Battery:
Lack of memory support is again a big downside of 6p compare to meizu plus 2 sim in meizu vs 1 in 6p (in meizu 2 sim if you don't use sd card) .
For connectivity both doing great and not very different here. You have more 4g bands support in 6p but, if you don't live in USA you will not loose here. Meizu definitely is much better in battery part as you know so, no more words here. Also meizu charge the battery a little faster than 6p specially if you charge 6p with retail charger in it's package which the plug is weaker than meizu fast charger plug. (No need to buy faster plug in meizu).
Okay I don't know if I left anything else and hope it helps you to choose the best option but, personally I will choose meizu here as you mention the price of 6p I don't think it wrote 200 euro more just for a little better camera, speaker and screen VS it's downs. But, if you cannot live without latest version of android and faster support of google or with Flyme OS of meizu better to go for 6p. ( The only real downside of meizu compare to 6p currently before unlocking the bootloader of pro 5)

DanielGatti said:
Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
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If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.

Kubas_inko_CZ said:
If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
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6.33-inch display! wow huge for a phone!
Plus 2 MP front camera is not good for selfie + not amoled screen + 3400mAh battery definitely is not good in 2k IPS LCD display and you should wait at least 3 more months if not more for outside of china; And 530 usd price (price of 32gb with no expandable storage) is unconfirmed and if it cost 530$ it will be in china not outside so, definitely expect 600$+
The only upside is the cpu which we don't know how well it's until it comes out plus OIS in camera. Qualcome did awful job in 810

I've used both and the camera on the Meizu is far better than the 6P.

What do we really gain?

So with the new google and Samsung phone out. What do I really gain to switch. I unlocked my boot loader, I can load just anything right? So what do I really gain to upgrade? I just don't see that much difference. Am I missing something? This phone has really been great. I bought the 64 gig one. Never had any problem with it. I have never had a phone this long, almost 2 years now. I bought this phone the day it came out. I have read all the spec and just don't see much difference right now. Updates? Am I going to be paying 850 for updates? A little better camera?
What do you see?

Nothing. In the end its just a phone. I love my droid turbo 64 gig with a almost 2 day battery. Camera needs some work but takes decent pictures. Unlocked bootloader and running RR ROM so I'm set with this phone until development ends on XDA.
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I'd probably buy the droid g4 plus 64gig sd 4gig ram
Octocore 3000mah battery 1080 screen.
$300 on Amazon and a good start on dev work
I know the battery and screen is a downgrade but who honestly needs a 2k screen? That's just wasted gpu power on a screen this small.

mrkhigh said:
I'd probably buy the droid g4 plus 64gig sd 4gig ram
Octocore 3000mah battery 1080 screen.
$300 on Amazon and a good start on dev work
I know the battery and screen is a downgrade but who honestly needs a 2k screen? That's just wasted gpu power on a screen this small.
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Once I went 1440p I can't go back, especially 1440p AMOLED. And I don't like very large screens like the Moto Nexus 6. This was "my" Nexus 6.
The ZTE Axon 7 right now for $400 slaps the new Pixel XL silly. It matches or beats almost every spec, except for possibly the camera. (And the camera isn't' worth an extra $400!) Google should be ashamed of themselves.
I'm keeping this phone at least another year.

See I've always been annoyed by the thought of the battery power wasted by this screen.... No idea how hard the gpu hits it. But it's definitely finer than I'm worried about
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ZTE is a brand that scares me. They released some trash early on.
Given the dev work and octocore processor I'd still go moto g4

All you can gain is a bigger screen and in some scenario's (not all!) a better camera. Furtheron you are more likely to downgrade rather than upgrade.
You have your bootloader unlocked so you are able to flash MM as stock (brazillian by iWoody) or Cyanogenmod or any other custom kernel and ROM. You can do all the modifications possible on a MM device, your Droid has all the sensors (are there even sensors added on newer devices besides OIS?)
You can increase batterylife with greenify and dark themes (which I prefer in general), and keep the phone up a solid two and a half days regular use
In case the camera is an issue I suggest you to go for CameraFX zoom, since this has a function to measure stability before taking the shot. To me, this comes most close to reach ois possible for the Droid and have some better quality on my photos. Also, you have the option to store RAW photos, which also increases the quality. I have a preview attached to this post
I bought myself a VR gear and along with the 2k screen it is performing very well as virtual reality. I would not quickly settle for 1080p again in VR world.

Fingerprint sensor. External SD card. Other than that, nothing.

bought a zuk z2, used for 3 days, sold it
i miss so much my droid turbo
come back again to turbo
i will only change speakers in phone, better lcd with sun, and remove those capacitive buttons
rest is just perfect

eheheh said:
bought a zuk z2, used for 3 days, sold it
i miss so much my droid turbo
come back again to turbo
i will only change speakers in phone, better lcd with sun, and remove those capacitive buttons
rest is just perfect
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Stereo speakers + rear camera OIS added to this phone would make it prefect. Basically all the specs the Moto Nexus 6 had, just in a more reasonable size. Motorola almost made it perfect -- releasing the "Nexus 6" Google should have... Motorola just left off stereo speakers and rear camera OIS, for unknown reasons.

ChazzMatt said:
Stereo speakers + rear camera OIS added to this phone would make it prefect. Basically all the specs the Moto Nexus 6 had, just in a more reasonable size. Motorola almost made it perfect -- releasing the "Nexus 6" Google should have... Motorola just left off stereo speakers and rear camera OIS, for unknown reasons.
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To bad phones can't be PC. Having the ability to swap out certain components to make it better.
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ChazzMatt said:
Stereo speakers + rear camera OIS added to this phone would make it prefect. Basically all the specs the Moto Nexus 6 had, just in a more reasonable size. Motorola almost made it perfect -- releasing the "Nexus 6" Google should have... Motorola just left off stereo speakers and rear camera OIS, for unknown reasons.
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btw for you opinion what is the best custom rom for droid turbo? i´m thinking of unlocking bootloader and install one of them, not that i´m unhappy with the 5.1.1. stock, but it hasn´t my language, Portuguese PT not br
and btw custom rom will gain more battery?
thanks

Mi6 revealed

Display 5.15" (resolution not specified)
CPU Snapdragon 835
GPU Adreno 540
RAM 6GB
Storage 64GB/128GB
Cameras 12MP wide-angle + 12MP telephoto rear, 4-axis OIS, 2x optical/10x digital zoom
Battery 3,350mAh
Misc USB Type-C, IR blaster, fingerprint sensor, NFC, stereo speakers, splash resistance
Connectivity 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 2x2 MU-MIMO
Measurements 145.17 x 70.49 x 7.45mm
Colors Black, white, blue, silver (special), ceramic (special)
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Anyone planning to buy it?

Doesn't worth the value for money yet. If mi5s sources come out with official nougat rom I will stick with it for years.

I will wait for the global version, probably in about two months.

No headphone jack and launches with MM .... seriously ?

silverblack said:
No headphone jack and launches with MM .... seriously ?
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7.1.1. and it comes with an usb-c to jack adaptor.

Good:
Return of OIS
Expect that dual camera doesn't drop the quality compared to Mi5s camera.
Return of IR
7.1 at least
.84cm thinner
starts with 6gb ram
Bad:
Same dimensions, same screen size, same resolution. I expected the borders on top and bottom would be smaller.
No headphone jack
Price on online stores are too high compared to the "launch price".
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I will sell my Mi5s if Mi6 became cheaper.

big hype before release....... looks/body same as my mi5s.
Very disapointing for me. Will hold on to my Mi5s, not worth to (up)grade to mi6

marcel112 said:
big hype before release....... looks/body same as my mi5s.
Very disapointing for me. Will hold on to my Mi5s, not worth to (up)grade to mi6
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Exactly

XMoDuLeSx said:
Exactly
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and hopefully we get source code released

CrazyLegenD said:
and hopefully we get source code released
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With released sources we could bump to standard cpu clock, antutu 170k like Oneplus 3T. Then, no point for me to upgrade to mi6 180k. Mi6 shouldn't bring quick charge 4? Weird. And 3.5 jack removal is a non sense for me. I will not buy usb earphones and will not walking around with an adapter. And 2.5d screen is already my biggest regret against mi5s, i miss screen glass protector. Also I'm not a fan of dual camera, too much dependency on software exactly where Xiaomi sucks. Mi6 bezel seems worst than mi5s, but have to confirm.

BPSoft said:
With released sources we could bump to standard cpu clock, antutu 170k like Oneplus 3T. Then, no point for me to upgrade to mi6 180k. Mi6 shouldn't bring quick charge 4? Weird. And 3.5 jack removal is a non sense for me. I will not buy usb earphones and will not walking around with an adapter. And 2.5d screen is already my biggest regret against mi5s, i miss screen glass protector. Also I'm not a fan of dual camera, too much dependency on software exactly where Xiaomi sucks. Mi6 bezel seems worst than mi5s, but have to confirm.
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Exactly why i look forward to change my mi5s.
The camera has the potential but software just makes it look like a disappointment

So a new mobile released before source is even released for the Mi5S how crappy is that... never getting another flagship model phone from Xiaomi again lack of support and updates for the Mi5S is totally unacceptable

Looks like it's using the same fp reader as mi5s which kind of sucks

This probably means the Mi5S is soon dropping in price I'm very happy with mine (I don't have the fingerprint wake_lock issue for whatever reason) and it's a phone I gladly recommend my friends. Yes the camera could use OIS, but I've lived years without and am used to hold my phone still for pictures.
I do miss the headphone jack on the Mi6, but my main headphones are Bluetooth now, so it's no big issue for me. Still not going to buy it, because the Mi5S is more than good enough for me

If only oneplus made a 5" flagship like this, I'd drop Xiaomi easily

ermacwins said:
If only oneplus made a 5" flagship like this, I'd drop Xiaomi easily
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Just my thoughts. I had oneplusone and oneplustwo but simple to big for the pockets
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ermacwins said:
If only oneplus made a 5" flagship like this, I'd drop Xiaomi easily
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Just my thoughts. I had oneplusone and oneplustwo but simple to big for the pockets
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Agree i had the OPX perfect size would jump at a OP5 5" version.

Xiaomi Mi6 has a nice design but those big bezels and lack of headphone jack is a problem. Let's see the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, hopefully with a screen 5.5" 1080p, CPU SD835, battery 3.5Ah, camera 16MP etc.!
Anyway no release of Kernel Source Code (KSC), no purchase! I'm still waiting for the KSC for my Mi5s to be released although it was introduced in the market in 09.2016! I'm very disappointed in Xiaomi.

Modest Mind said:
Xiaomi Mi6 has a nice design but those big bezels and lack of headphone jack is a problem. Let's see the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2, hopefully with a screen 5.5" 1080p, CPU SD835, battery 3.5Ah, camera 16MP etc.!
Anyway no release of Kernel Source Code (KSC), no purchase! I'm still waiting for the KSC for my Mi5s to be released although it was introduced in the market in 09.2016! I'm very disappointed in Xiaomi.
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'big bezels'? the bezels are on par with the average smartphone and yes they could have decreased the size but that would also mean less battery which is not something I would like to sacrifice. As for the headphone jack or lack thereof I am disappointed but I am willing to forgive xiaomi because unlike apple you cannot expect everything from a company that sells their flagships for half the price of regular flagships. for the price difference you could even buy yourself a quality audio player with a built in DAC and also a nice pair of headphones.

Anyone know what sensor is being used for the camera?

OP7 PRO - Im so happy I haven't waited and went with S10+

Hi, I decided to get back with Sammy after 3 year break. It's so good I didn't even rooted it. I paid for it 2900 in my currency. OP7Pro is 4000 of my currency. LOL What are you thoughts of the newest flagship killer compared to S10+ Do we have to be afraid of something? Don't you guys think it's a cashgrab?

Good bye s10+ hello op7 pro [emoji23]
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Some of the best specs I've seen including stereo speakers. I also like the size, but not sure ready to leave my S10+

1. No official water resistance rating
2. No wireless charging
3. No headphone jack
4. Non-expandable storage
5. Does not include earbuds or a 3.5mm audio adapter
6. Wide-angle camera falls short
7. Display is less brighter that the one on S10+. (upto 1200 nits vs 800 nits)
8. Front cam on OP is trash. No comparison to any other flagships when it comes to front cams. No secondary sensor or depth sensor. Even pixel has it, lol.
There you go. Price difference justified. When the S10+ came out, I traded my P3XL for $550 USD and got the S10+ for $486 USD (Galaxy buds free too since it was a pre-order). I went to OPs site today and went through the trade in steps, put in my IMEI in, trade in value was $640 CAD (since I have now moved to Canada). So I can get the OP 7 pro for around 480 again. Yes, feature wise price is great. BUT no thanks. S10+ is worth the price. Keeping that till the Note or next Pixel.

Aaditya91 said:
1. No official water resistance rating
2. No wireless charging
3. No headphone jack
4. Non-expandable storage
5. Does not include earbuds or a 3.5mm audio adapter
6. Wide-angle camera falls short
7. Display is less brighter that the one on S10+. (upto 1200 nits vs 800 nits)
8. Front cam on OP is trash. No comparison to any other flagships when it comes to front cams. No secondary sensor or depth sensor. Even pixel has it, lol.
There you go. Price difference justified. When the S10+ came out, I traded my P3XL for $550 USD and got the S10+ for $486 USD (Galaxy buds free too since it was a pre-order). I went to OPs site today and went through the trade in steps, put in my IMEI in, trade in value was $640 CAD (since I have now moved to Canada). So I can get the OP 7 pro for around 480 again. Yes, feature wise price is great. BUT no thanks. S10+ is worth the price. Keeping that till the Note or next Pixel.
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I'll counter for Oneplus I guess
1. Oxygen OS is leagues better than OneUI
2. Performance is a lot smoother on Oneplus
3. Samsung has incredibly slow charging speeds compared to Oneplus' wrap charging.
4. OS and Security updates are more frequent and longer support of their devices
5. Easy to Root
6. Developer friendly device
7. Bezeless screen with 90hz screen
8. UFS 3.0

Oneui
worldsoutro said:
I'll counter for Oneplus I guess
1. Oxygen OS is leagues better than OneUI
2. Performance is a lot smoother on Oneplus
3. Samsung has incredibly slow charging speeds compared to Oneplus' wrap charging.
4. OS and Security updates are more frequent and longer support of their devices
5. Easy to Root
6. Developer friendly device
7. Bezeless screen with 90hz screen
8. UFS 3.0
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Well with one ui you get every single feature that a oneplus user wants...thats why people root oneplus so that they can add the features...i dont need to root my s10 plus oneplus has the bare minimum thats why its snappy...my s10 plus has tonnes built in and its great s10 even use there own apps which is great .... btw oneplus pro 4 hours screen on time because of that 90hz you can change to 60hz but why would you its the phones best selling point..sorry i keep editing this lol... have you seen oneui ? Inside all the apps looks so much better ... and we dont need substratum either we have themes and goodlock?

worldsoutro said:
I'll counter for Oneplus I guess
1. Oxygen OS is leagues better than OneUI
2. Performance is a lot smoother on Oneplus
3. Samsung has incredibly slow charging speeds compared to Oneplus' wrap charging.
4. OS and Security updates are more frequent and longer support of their devices
5. Easy to Root
6. Developer friendly device
7. Bezeless screen with 90hz screen
8. UFS 3.0
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For the most part, you're comparing your OPINIONS to his FACTS.
You're talking about things being better, smoother, "friendly".... All of those are opinions opposed to what actually can be proven.
Me personally, I'll never buy a phone again without a headphone jack, expandable memory and an IP rating. Those 3 features, are necessities for me.

Aaditya91 said:
1. No official water resistance rating
2. No wireless charging
3. No headphone jack
4. Non-expandable storage
5. Does not include earbuds or a 3.5mm audio adapter
6. Wide-angle camera falls short
7. Display is less brighter that the one on S10+. (upto 1200 nits vs 800 nits)
8. Front cam on OP is trash. No comparison to any other flagships when it comes to front cams. No secondary sensor or depth sensor. Even pixel has it, lol.
There you go. Price difference justified. When the S10+ came out, I traded my P3XL for $550 USD and got the S10+ for $486 USD (Galaxy buds free too since it was a pre-order). I went to OPs site today and went through the trade in steps, put in my IMEI in, trade in value was $640 CAD (since I have now moved to Canada). So I can get the OP 7 pro for around 480 again. Yes, feature wise price is great. BUT no thanks. S10+ is worth the price. Keeping that till the Note or next Pixel.
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Well, the price difference is justified if all those features are important to you. Although #5-8 seem to be nit-picky for most regular users - not the XDA ones!
Me, I'm going to keep my S10+ although the 90Hz display on the OP7P sounds mighty interesting.

OP is not anymore flagship killer, just flagship without flagship features like IP, wireless charging etc With addition, OP7 camera is again joke, even bigger with actual price. They don't know make competitive camera with actual flagships. I'm pretty happy with my regular S10 and looking forward for Pixel 4, S11, Mi10 and so on
90Hz on AMOLED and UFS3.0, that's all. Exynos except GPU is more powerful than Snapdragon in raw power

I have had a few OP devices and besides the phone`s speed there is nothing that is better then a Galaxy S device. Costumer service and support is bad and once the phone is unpacked its value decreases about half of what was paid. Overall i think the quality and support (regular updates) of Samsung is better then what OP offers. Just my 2 cents

If i still had my s8 and op7 pro or s10 was a choice I would go with s10 BECAUSE OF WIRELESS CHARGING, IP rating and some other smaller things

Like the op7 pro but would not give up my s10 for it but I am jealous of the 90hz screen tbh.

Since the oneplus 7 pro is a flagship phone I don't really the value with all those trade-offs. I might consider it if it were subsidised but in Canada no company will carry so for a starting price of 1000$ I just don't see the value tbh.
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I can add that there are some things like offscreen gestures that I miss from OP devices. But for me the best thing in S10 is..... One handed mode with a gesture. It's been there isnce what ? S6? OP7P has bigger screen but try using it while on the bike.

mrnovanova said:
Since the oneplus 7 pro is a flagship phone I don't really the value with all those trade-offs. I might consider it if it were subsidised but in Canada no company will carry so for a starting price of 1000$ I just don't see the value tbh.
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Very hard to justify that kind of price when its missing some key features and the camera is still not even near the same league as galaxys and pixels . It will likely get better with updates but still for $1100 its got some serious ground to make up.

force70 said:
Very hard to justify that kind of price when its missing some key features and the camera is still not even near the same league as galaxys and pixels . It will likely get better with updates but still for $1100 its got some serious ground to make up.
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IKR! I think oneplus is on some Icarus trip right now. Flying way to close to the sun. They were such a great value proposition now they're just a one trick poney. Great screen. It's probably still the fastest Android phone around but marginally at best.

Isn't regular fast charging meant to be detrimental to battery life?

gee2012 said:
I have had a few OP devices and besides the phone`s speed there is nothing that is better then a Galaxy S device. Costumer service and support is bad and once the phone is unpacked its value decreases about half of what was paid. Overall i think the quality and support (regular updates) of Samsung is better then what OP offers. Just my 2 cents
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Not true at all...I paid 650 for 6t and sold it five months later for 525. You call that 50%?
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TheDriver67 said:
Isn't regular fast charging meant to be detrimental to battery life?
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That is a myth. No.

I traded my tmobile branded op7pro for my unlocked S10plus.... I love this phone and I have the exynos version witch I'm rooted already, the only thing I can say about the op7pro is the refresh rate speed and is not that of huge thing. The camera of the op7pro is way better then before but can't compare... And battery life is not that great I tried a day with 90hz and a day with 60hz, the design of the op7pro is meh like it felt I had a galaxy s7 edge. When I got the s10 plus I was worried about the hole but I Dont even notice it and battery life on the s10plus its insane.
Then there's value where I'm from I can get a basically new op6t for $250,when the op6t was released I bought one for $340 there where tmobile version but since you can convert them there where worth it... And the op7pro tmobile version is already being sold for $600. Oneplus it's no good for resale. Samsung is.
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Not true at all...I paid 650 for 6t and sold it five months later for 525. You call that 50%?
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That is a myth. No.
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The price drop my vary from region,because in my country is true... Right know you can get a op6t for $300 and $250

I just went to my local T-Mobile for T-Mobile Tuesday and looked at the OnePlus 7 Pro and did a side by side comparison with my S10+ and the OnePlus 7 Pro was definitely brighter than my S10+ and my device is on High Performance and Vivid. Does the 7 Pro have more Nits than the S10+?