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As everyone knows, default camera app of sony sucks. I have tried a lot of alternative applications. For me the best results is from Snap Camera with settings 20mpx, camera api2, jpeg quality Best, opengl2, auto scene auto whitebalance, auto flash. These settings allows me to take much sharper images tested on my small facial hair. BUT! Camera is very overheating, after few minutes (5-6 shots) i have started sony camera and it alerted that camera is too hot, so it shuts down.
Snap camera allows HDR in 20mpx also any scene, its not limited as sony-s camera
Also snap camera produced the best images on my old low quality mtk based phone. So i recommend it, its paid but as far i know it have trial version.
I will be happy if someone will tell how is satisfied with this app.
PS.: FV-5 is worse, for my eyes.
in the play store info, there is setting for ISO. but why is there non when i check in setting...?
ive taken some kick ass photos in good light/ low light / bad light with the stock app. IDK what everyone is on about. but to each their own =)
`Ghost` said:
ive taken some kick ass photos in good light/ low light / bad light with the stock app. IDK what everyone is on about. but to each their own =)
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In Auto mode or Manual?
Both.
Basically, when you unlock your boot loader, the great photo quality will be gone. If you have backed up your "TRIMM area" before unlocking it (where the DRM keys are stored), then you'll be able to get it back, by re-locking the BL, but this means you'll lose your ability to use costom ROMs, only modified stock ROMs are possible after that.
The reason for this is that Sony uses some pretty amazing software magic to get great pictures in low light (noise reduction algorithms) which aren't meant to be accessible for others to reverse engineer, so they lock them away with the DRM keys. So with a locked boot loader, the camera makes awesome pictures even in low light, with an unlocked BL, meh... (not so much any more)
Of course, these algorithms are only available to the Sony default camera app for the same reasons...
Have you tried this
It will let you have scene's and HDR in 20mp, also it has more ISO options.
I've used FV-5 from the start and imo it's a lot better for me then the stock app. I can't work with the stock app that has limited control
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stock camera is the only one...'cause of manual iso... fv-5 has good auto but you can't force iso 100, 200 and so on
Recently I have the Z3 Compact therefore not yet tried everything, but the camera does not seem anywhere near what they sold me in reviews. The original camera seems poor choices, the automatic mode leaves much to be desired, especially in low light because when you have a lighthouse in front can not interpret well and properly handle white balance and contrast.
I was testing the Open Camera app and gives me better results than stock. The only thing I use it now for the stock camera is for timeshift and sometimes for panoramic shots.
I have almost forgot about this post, thanks for cleaning my bookmarks.
Thanks for everyone’s reply, I have figured out that another phones also uses that sensor and they make better pics, so probably problem is with sony's software developers who are doing a weak job. I am very addicted to zooming pictures and when I compare zoomed 5mpx downscale shot of lumia 1020 and 8 or 20mpx shot of Z3C, then shot of lumia is sharp and clear, full of details.... the shot of sony is like blurred and without details. So i think that they algorithm is wrong somewhere or they are compressing raw to too low quality and when jpeg is created then its final quality will be even worse regardless of 97% or 100% jpeg quality. Need to note that nokia's sensor is three times bigger in its physical size that captures the light.
But the video quality is epic i have never seen so good video quality from phone.
Currently i am waiting for availability of 5.1.1 in slovakia
All credits goes to B-S-G
His original thread
and Thanks to XDA Headlines!
Link for GC
U11 Camera for still photos is (probably?) the best in class right now, but not without flaw that is overexposure.
As soon as the Modded HDR+ GC has become available I have decided to compare some shots with Stock camera w/HDR and Google Camera w/HDR+ enabled.
Here are some comparisons and my opinions.
Lowlight
http://imgur.com/2ziArQB
With Google Cam overexposure and blown out highlights are no longer an issue. However, the details in the shadow area of the low light image will get smudged out thanks to the noise reduction and/or become too dark.
on Stock HTC Sharpening is harsher than GC when 100% zoomed in but not as much as Sammy. The color on stock app is much more vibrant as well, but that comes with noisy image.
As a photographer I'd prefer lower noise image, but for smartphone camera that is not a very important thing comparing to, say, details in the dark area.
Overall Exposure and Details
http://imgur.com/Rqjk2hL
GC did a great job keeping all the details in highlight areas while stock app blown them to bits.
Colors, yet again HTC stock is punchy and vibrant on shadow areas while GC is a tad bit duller.
Close up
http://imgur.com/D7HEkbR
HTC, as usual, produce much more vibrant colors and more sharpened image while highlight areas are blown out.
It all comes down to your taste, people who like "Natural" tone will prefer GC while snap and go type better stick to HTCs'.
for me I prefer GC by the day and HTC stock by night as GC will give more room in image editing.
Basically, short squeeze for stock app, long squeez for Google Cam for me!
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Current working Gcam with Portrait mode
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/GoogleCamera-Pixel2Mod-Arnova8G2-V5.apk
Preferred Setting
Config for HDR+: Pixel 2017 ZSL HDR+
HDR+ Parameters: Default or higher (not much difference but longer process time)
Final jpg quality HDR+: default(95) or higher, little differences
For me, Google does a better job in low-light, my bathroom.
Clearer and more details, look at the spay can on the right at the back.
But I do like the greens produced by HTC Cam, Google pink/reds are better, all comes down to personal preference.
http://imgur.com/a/l3oTm
Google's HDR+ does great job in extreme HDR situations , but for my eyes HTC's HDR boost does greater job keeping everything sharp , Google just destroyes every detail with noise reduction
Check the link for comparison
https://goo.gl/photos/NYTaPRsEMVoxjoEc8
I know Pixel camera better but I've read all reviews on net and youtube and found that it always got over saturation during at low light or indoor environment like the sample provided from #2 if you view it carefully, you see a yellow cast in the whole photo with Pixel.
Indeed, U11 offers a natural tone overall, not Pixel in my opinions though HTC color might be a bit vibrant. If Pixel white balance isn't going wrong, yes it always perform better result. Good to know there is a modded google HDR+ now, donno if the yellow tone problem fixed or not.
U11 still got some advantages like OIS and dual pixel focus which is important to me too. Wish we'll have modded U11 camera in the future.
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https://www.xda-developers.com/google-camera-hdr-ported/
It's glad that we can use Pixel HDR+ now on all SD820/821/835 devices without root. It's Google camera 4.4 apk and I've installed it on my U11(no root atm) and it works both HDR+ photo and 4K recording, no crash no FC. So if you prefer the style on Google HDR+ this is your way to go together with the benefit of OIS and dual pixel focus over Pixel phone.
Will OIS and pixel focus work on the google camera?
sallam5010 said:
Google's HDR+ does great job in extreme HDR situations , but for my eyes HTC's HDR boost does greater job keeping everything sharp , Google just destroyes every detail with noise reduction
Check the link for comparison
https://goo.gl/photos/NYTaPRsEMVoxjoEc8
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In some way i agree with u,but i am also using g cam on htc 10 ane phone must be still while taking photo,i see on ur picture some blurriness like when phone is movng wjen taking photo.
Boskoel03 said:
In some way i agree with u,but i am also using g cam on htc 10 ane phone must be still while taking photo,i see on ur picture some blurriness like when phone is movng wjen taking photo.
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Some samples,i am not professional photographer but u can see for ur self,more lighter photo is htc stock camera,other G cam
Edit: focus is left oriented...
No edit,no flash,pure hdr..
zeke125 said:
Will OIS and pixel focus work on the google camera?
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OIS does work and Pixel focus I assume you mean the "lens blur" function? if so, it also works.
The only thing that is not working in GC is slow motion.
Boskoel03 said:
In some way i agree with u,but i am also using g cam on htc 10 ane phone must be still while taking photo,i see on ur picture some blurriness like when phone is movng wjen taking photo.
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Hmm I was really steady , I have very steady hands and I can take 1s shutter , and I really tried it multiple times to make sure if it's really does reduce the noise and smudge the details or if it's just one bad shot , but actually all of them are the same
I really like it in extreme HDR situations though , so if HTC's upcoming camera update didn't boost the camera even more then maybe I will use gcam for really extreme HDR situations
I have tried it in broad day light and the dynamic range is really improved.
I will try it tonight but if it fixes the overexposure, it will really be the ultimate camera phone.
stock app
Pixel app
Edit : Now tried in the night, the difference is even greater. With the HTC U11 camera app, all the details are burnt near light sources, while it is not the case with the Pixel camera app.
stock app
Pixel app
For me it is clear, the Pixel app will replace the stock app for my pictures. The HTC U11 camera module with the Google Pixel software, I think we have the best possible camera on a phone.
Stock camera is much better in every scenario...
foxy4270 said:
Stock camera is much better in every scenario...
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I strongly disagree.
Look at this window which is aproximately 150 meters far from me. With the Pixel app, I can clearly see he is watching TV. I am impressed. With the stock app, I see... nothing.
And with the Pixel, I don't find any detail loss.
stock app
HDR+ app
For me stock camera is better on daylight situations.
For nightshots GC wins.
So i will use them both.
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For me stock camera is better on daylight situations.
For nightshots GC wins.
So i will use them both.
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Again, I disagree, look at these crops in daylight (they are not mine but from the original poster of this thread). A lot of data are lost with the stock app due to the lower dynamic range. The difference is huge.
Stock
HDR+
For me, the HDR+ app wins in every situations.
Indoor night time
Gcam color rendering really off..
First one gcam
2ND stock
Hdr + is a disaster....worst camera ever
Google hdr +
google by foxy4270, on Flickr
Stock hdr
stock by foxy4270, on Flickr
foxy4270 said:
Hdr + is a disaster....worst camera ever
Google hdr +
google by foxy4270, on Flickr
Stock hdr
google by foxy4270, on Flickr
Stock hdr
stock by foxy4270, on Flickr
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I think u are wrong,bit i am using it on 10 and can not be sure if u are on 11,but in ur post thoose two pictures are the same,and i know difference between g cam hdr+ and stock one,but again on htc 10,that is reason i am not sure for 11 but when something is good it's good,g cam is good for good light conditions,and in low light must bee some wb manually settings...
Sorry,in a hurry ,only light is different on ur pictures,when I compare that red sigh will be more red with g cam i am sure....
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I think u are wrong,bit i am using it on 10 and can not be sure if u are on 11,but in ur post thoose two pictures are the same,and i know difference between g cam hdr+ and stock one,but again on htc 10,that is reason i am not sure for 11 but when something is good it's good,g cam is good for good light conditions,and in low light must bee some wb manually settings...
Sorry,in a hurry ,only light is different on ur pictures,when I compare that red sigh will be more red with g cam i am sure....
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this is an htc u11 forum
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Clear case...
To me both apps got pros and cons. Stock cam tend to over exposure and in the opposite way google cam like to under exposure.
It really depends the atmosphere you're shooting and maybe your matter of personal preferences. In general, I like stock a bit over exposure to make the photo brighter except in some cases the high light area got washed out. Noise reduction in google camera is better, stock cam got many noise.
Has Moto stock camera app improved picture quality? I haven't updated my camera app for a long time now, even the one that changed the app icon. Are there any improvements after updating the camera app on stock ROM?
Nops only changed the icon and microphone bug. Even the pink tint is still present in high ISO setting. forget HDR+
I think that the quality is little bit better using manual mode.
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cpvm said:
I think that the quality is little bit better using manual mode.
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Agreed. I find setting a manual shutter speed cuts down on the oversharpening that usually occurs with low light shots. I use 1/30 second for most indoor shots. The photos are usually under-exposed and require some tweaking in Google Photos or your editor of choice. I'll take that any day, instead of automatic mode's tendency to over-expose and clip the highlights.
I've got to admit, I just got this phone today and was hoping it would be at least as good camera-wise as the Nextbit Robin it was replacing. I didn't think the Nextbit's camera was so amazing, but with the right manual controls I was able to nail decent shots with it.
This, I feel like the colors are oddly oversaturated and the sharpening is ugly as sin. I did also find that switching to manual helped a bit, at least with the sharpening, but what's with the clipping highlights so early? Does this camera sensor just suck when it comes to dynamic range? Or is it just bad software?
My phone hasn't had a chance to update yet so I was hoping new software might have come along to address the shortcomings, which is how I ended up in this thread.
Are there other camera apps which might improve things? I tried Open Camera, but it seems to just behave the same as the stock app with a different UI. Has anyone tried the ported Google Camera app?
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Are there other camera apps which might improve things? I tried Open Camera, but it seems to just behave the same as the stock app with a different UI. Has anyone tried the ported Google Camera app?
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I'm resurrecting this thread in order to address your original question, which is now irrelevant to you. Meanwhile, you've demonstrated (in this thread and others) that the G5+ does, indeed, have a capable camera module that's hamstrung by lousy software. But this is for those of us who are still wimps and not yet willing to unlock the bootloader.
As others have said (and I have too) just switching the stock camera to "pro mode" seems to reduce the oversharpening effects, but only slightly. Setting the shutter speed to 1/30 also helps in some low light situations.
However, my best luck has been with the Camera FV-5 app, which I bought years ago. In addition to allowing much more manual control, it also can be set to save images in .png format, and that seems to bypass more of the default image processing. (Unfortunately, it also means no EXIF data, so no info about exposure is recorded.)
Setting Camera FV-5 to save black and white images (Settings/photo encoding settings/color channels) also produces some strikingly sharp images that I find very pleasing. I'm sure many will not be interested in that option.
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that Moto is now advertising the G5+ as having the "Most advanced camera in its class"?
One more app worth trying, whether rooted or not: FreeDCam. It's free and open source. It's possible to turn off denoising, resulting in a much sharper image. Some sort of noise reduction is still needed for most low-light images, though. Even without root, I'm getting much better photos now. For those who are rooted and have access to camera2 api, raw images are supported.
edit: after more experimentation, my enthusiasm for FreeDCam is waning, at least on unrooted phones. I think it still has a lot to offer those who have rooted. And it still produces incredibly sharp images in good light. But in low light, the noise is severe and I haven't found an effective way to deal with it. For now (until I root) it's either the stock camera in "pro" mode or Camera FV-5 for low light shots.
I was disappointed with the camera too when I first got mine, but I've recently discovered it's not the camera itself, but merely the software. I've been using the 3rd-party, free, ad-free Open Camera app by Mark Harman, available in the Google Play store, & it's heaps better! You can download it here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.sourceforge.opencamera&hl=en
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Sometimes it is superfast, sometimes superslow and sometimes camera opens into all white blank screen and nothing happens
camera is soooo bad, I barely used it,yuck
The camera is pretty fast. Super fast, actually. The app opens immediately, and taking the first picture takes no time at all. And it's pretty well focused. If you want to manually focus a specific point, it takes a lettle more time. But still, pretty fast.
However, the camera sucks. At least the app. I've tried other camera app and thew work a little better, but still... I expected a better camera. I don't know why it has 2 rear cameras. Do they actually do something? Improve light, focusing time, whatever? I cannot see any diference between pictures taken with the secondary camera fisically covered.
Also, did anyone manage to get any good macro picture? You have to shoot really far away from the object in order for the camera to focus it.
[ =adriakus;77672445]The camera is pretty fast. Super fast, actually. The app opens immediately, and taking the first picture takes no time at all. And it's pretty well focused. If you want to manually focus a specific point, it takes a lettle more time. But still, pretty fast.
However, the camera sucks. At least the app. I've tried other camera app and thew work a little better, but still... I expected a better camera. I don't know why it has 2 rear cameras. Do they actually do something? Improve light, focusing time, whatever? I cannot see any diference between pictures taken with the secondary camera fisically covered.
Also, did anyone manage to get any good macro picture? You have to shoot really far away from the object in order for the camera to focus it.[/QUOTE]
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The camera is pretty fast. Super fast, actually. The app opens immediately, and taking the first picture takes no time at all. And it's pretty well focused. If you want to manually focus a specific point, it takes a lettle more time. But still, pretty fast.
However, the camera sucks. At least the app. I've tried other camera app and thew work a little better, but still... I expected a better camera. I don't know why it has 2 rear cameras. Do they actually do something? Improve light, focusing time, whatever? I cannot see any diference between pictures taken with the secondary camera fisically covered.
Also, did anyone manage to get any good macro picture? You have to shoot really far away from the object in order for the camera to focus it.
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Which camera app gave you the best results?
Batmany said:
Which camera app gave you the best results?
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For macro pictures, none. It sucks.
For default settings (auto) and fast photos, the stock app.
For extra functionality, I like the Camera MX app.
And I find interesting the lighting treatment of the camera zoom fx app (under the name of hdr, it combines 3 pictures for normal, max and min exposure). It also gives you tons of customization.
I'll give a try to open camera. Haven't tested it, yet.
I'll say neither of them is the "best" . They all use the same camera hardware. It's personal preference on the image treatment or personalization of the camera settings.
I'll set up magiks asap and I'll give a try with camera2api enabled (camera zoom fx let's you shoot on real manual mode).
I can post a picture of each to compare if you want to.
adriakus said:
I can post a picture of each to compare if you want to.
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Yes please, that would be helpful. Thank you.
adriakus said:
For macro pictures, none. It sucks.
For default settings (auto) and fast photos, the stock app.
For extra functionality, I like the Camera MX app.
And I find interesting the lighting treatment of the camera zoom fx app (under the name of hdr, it combines 3 pictures for normal, max and min exposure). It also gives you tons of customization.
I'll give a try to open camera. Haven't tested it, yet.
I'll say neither of them is the "best" . They all use the same camera hardware. It's personal preference on the image treatment or personalization of the camera settings.
I'll set up magiks asap and I'll give a try with camera2api enabled (camera zoom fx let's you shoot on real manual mode).
I can post a picture of each to compare if you want to.
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waiting for the results
I'll take the pictures today and I'll try to post them today, too. If not, tomorrow max.
I'll shoot in default settings and HDR. Outdoors, indoors and low-light (all default settings).
Of you want to see something else, let me know.
I've just installed magisk and enabled camera2API to try gcam and Mi A1 and Mi A2 apps. But the pictures I've taken are with regular apps before doing so. Here the go.
https://postimg.cc/gallery/2xord8elu/
1st column --> Camera MX
2nd column --> Camera Zoom FX
3rd column --> Open Camera
4th column --> Stock camera app
As I said. Not major differences. Except in low light situations where ISO must be well adjusted by the app. I'd choose an app for the user experience more than for picture quality, since they all are pretty similar.
did you find any improvement with gcam?
(that can't use the second camera on the back - correct?)
It's a very generic camera, and with the 2.2 aperture, expecting good results on low lights..well, a stretch. But it does okay for the price. Front camera is rather good and it's probably the only phone in this price range to provide EIS in video which works really well.
Hello, I'm creating an account in order to give my real-life review of this phone. The previous phones I had were HTC One M8, LG G6.
Camera launching speed from the lockscreen and from the drawer is very good, to me. Especially since the Android Pie update.
When taking pictures with the camera the nearest distance allows me 12 cm width pictures (approx. 4.7 inches). Even with my one of my other smartphones the nearest distance allows pictures with 6 cm (approx. 2.4 inches).
What are your experiences?
It's just the camera module parameter, minimal focusing distance. In case of XA2 (IMX300 module) it's about 10 cm, more or less.
That's it, nothing can be done about it, pure physics.
BUT ! Thanks to 23MPix, you can losslessly zoom the photo a little bit, and this helps to fight this focusing distance.
This phone has great camera, I think.
emcon, I agree with you concerning the 23 MPix and the possibilty to (digitally) zoom the final picture / on smartphone screen.
With my former Xperia´s (Z3c, M5) I got better close-up results after the smartphone was back at Sony for support.
Generally, the camera makes great shots under normal conditions.
This reminds me to the former "fixfocus" analog cameras. With this type you need no adjustment of the distance at the camera and these cameras have been cheap compared with the SLR-cameras.
emcom said:
It's just the camera module parameter, minimal focusing distance. In case of XA2 (IMX300 module) it's about 10 cm, more or less.
That's it, nothing can be done about it, pure physics.
BUT ! Thanks to 23MPix, you can losslessly zoom the photo a little bit, and this helps to fight this focusing distance.
This phone has great camera, I think.
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The camera is very good until low light.
infixremix said:
The camera is very good until low light.
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Not true. Even in low light it takes good looking photos, but only when updated to latest software. Before that, yes, it was so-so.
Some of my latest samples (maybe not photography masterpieces, but still you can check the quality...)
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3JnUEEQngCbdbsTX8
emcom said:
Not true. Even in low light it takes good looking photos, but only when updated to latest software. Before that, yes, it was so-so.
Some of my latest samples (maybe not photography masterpieces, but still you can check the quality...)
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It used to on Oreo, now on Pie it looks worse.
nexus720 said:
It used to on Oreo, now on Pie it looks worse.
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Yes, unfortunately. Something's wrong with low light photos as well as HDR photos. As I love Xperias, I recently got a XZ2 additionally and while it uses basically the same photo application under Pie, there are significant differences in the results, even starting with Superior Auto mode and its ability to trigger HDR when Backlit scenery is detected; on XA2 it gives no results - on XZ2 it shoots nice HDR photo.
I hope Sony will check how this new (quite nice, btw) application works on the XA2 and make necessary changes. For now I completely switched to XZ2 (which is nice, but some features I liked more on the XA2).
One thing is certainly improved : the quality of audio recorded with videos. Under 8.0 it sounded like recorded through plastic pipe - some strange audio effects audible in the ambient background.
Under 9.0 the audio is flawless. Sounds great.