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I just got two of these phones for my wife and kid. Since I'm a Note 3 owner and have been on 4.4.4 Biggins ROM cause I love the customization and the Xposed modules, the Lollipop roms are kinda new territory for me. So - that being said - what are some things I need to know with rom'ing and rooting an S5? Both phones came with 5.0 and I am not sure if I should downgrade them to a 4.4.4 rom so I can use Xposed (from what I understand, Xposed doesn't work on Lollipop), but here's the questions I need help/advice with:
1. Is there a version of Xposed that works with Lollipop
2. What do I lose besides Material if I downgrade from Lollipop to KK
3. Are the radios for KK better or worse than the Lollipop ones
4. What's the most customizable (battery icon, tether, network speed indicators, status bar mods, themes, etc.) Lollipop ROM? Which is the most developer active ROM for LP & KK?
5. Which offers the best battery life? LP or KK
I could use some advice from you, the XDA community since I'm not a noob but don't feel like "experimenting" with unstable features since these aren't my daily phones.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Jesse
jessenj said:
I just got two of these phones for my wife and kid. Since I'm a Note 3 owner and have been on 4.4.4 Biggins ROM cause I love the customization and the Xposed modules, the Lollipop roms are kinda new territory for me. So - that being said - what are some things I need to know with rom'ing and rooting an S5? Both phones came with 5.0 and I am not sure if I should downgrade them to a 4.4.4 rom so I can use Xposed (from what I understand, Xposed doesn't work on Lollipop), but here's the questions I need help/advice with:
1. Is there a version of Xposed that works with Lollipop
2. What do I lose besides Material if I downgrade from Lollipop to KK
3. Are the radios for KK better or worse than the Lollipop ones
4. What's the most customizable (battery icon, tether, network speed indicators, status bar mods, themes, etc.) Lollipop ROM? Which is the most developer active ROM for LP & KK?
5. Which offers the best battery life? LP or KK
I could use some advice from you, the XDA community since I'm not a noob but don't feel like "experimenting" with unstable features since these aren't my daily phones.
Thanks in advance for any and all help.
Jesse
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Nice double post by the way
1) not for touchwiz based ROMs
2) You're flashing an old ROM over a new ROM, you lose your system and data
3) some say the L kernel has better battery life, most say it's worse. It's probably a toss up
4) You need to determine that for yourself. They are all basically the same due to locked bootloader, only TW based ROMs will work, which severely limits things
5) see 3
Pretty much the same thing ldeveraux said, except for the radios they are basically the same if you mean cell service. I notice no difference. Also, for a ROM that is most customizable I would say either MOAR or Alliance. MOAR has lots of user customized things while Alliance has themes.
Thanks for the replies. I realized based on your responses, how I might have been a little more vague than I intended, but either way, the answer I was looking for most was pretty much addressed. I've decided that I'm going to downgrade firmware to the latest KK MOAR rom since both phones have no other data and a wipe won't disturb anything. I have TiBu backups of the apps, settings, etc so I'll just reload them both. Also, since theming is less important to me than customization, MOAR is the way I'm leaning, but I was wondering what the daily driver experience has been like for both. Has anyone run both MOAR and Alliance long enough to see general battery life comparisons, speed, features? Like, for example, are either roms having issues with common functions, like screen sharing, GPS, MMS, tethering, KNOX, etc? Since I mostly run Xposed with the modules I like, out-of-the-box tweaked interface is less of a priority since I'll just tailor the functionality afterwards.
As always - BIG THANKS for taking a look at my post and taking the time to respond. I appreciate it.
Jesse
How safe is it to use ROMs like OmniROM, which ended their development and kitkat was the latest code base? I understand there is probably little support, but what about security issues?
Security wise the newer ROMs have the latest updates and fixes.
But if you don't sideload apps visit dodgy sites and are generally careful you may be okay.
Personally I like the newer ROMs anyway CM13 is my current.
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It really depends on the specific rom. A rom that was made by a really good developer and then abandoned is better than one made by someone who isn't good but updates it daily. Generally all roms will be equally "safe" as long as it's made by someone reputable. You would only have a problem if you started installing a bunch of shaddy (/pirated)apps or got hit by something like the stagefright vulnerability(unlikely, and most roms are patched for it anyway). Either way, you are ultimately responsible for how safe your phone is, especially if it's rooted. With that said, I would consider any custom rom to be experimental and won't be as secure(or stable) as the latest stock.
I am coming from the stock lollipop, and I gotta say that KitKat OmniROM is surprisingly fast and trouble free. The user interface is very snappy and lag free. The interface response to any action is pretty much instant. It's like breathing a new life into an old phone. It did take a few hours to figure out that I had to flash the old JB bootstack, and KK modem to make it works, some screwing around with gapps, launchers, but the result is wonderful. I wish they didn't abandon LG G2 in newer version.
Hi all, thank you so much for you suggestions and kind attention.
I'm gonna buy this phone soon, I'm new here, I would like to know which is the best ROM suggested here.
For best I mean especially bugless, stable, well optimized, and possibly updated.. what is your experience about? Thanks for sharing
xXx Rom by @xXx ... more to stock rom... always reply/update/discuss about bug etc.. simple stable fast smooth rom...
SM G900F 6.0.1 xXx 4.7.1 Boeffla Beta 5
thank you a lot for answer. I'm a bit confused since Boeffla Beta 5 is just a kernel and I need all package of MM 6.0.1 with hopefully the Boeffla Beta 5 kernel. Where can I find it?
Maybe I've to install any ROM with MM and then install the kernel? (And then gapps).
Thank you a lot
TW Based
- Sixperience (It's not on XDA, Google it)
- xXx ROM
AOSP Based
- Samperia (XOSP, Xperia UI)
- PureGoogle (Looks like stock Nexus 5 ROM)
- Slim6 (Minimalistic Features, Fast)
CM Based
- CM13
- RESURRECTION REMIX
- crDroid
sixperience?Come on, there are much better .....
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sixperience?Come on, there are much better .....
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Then name some.
[BIG RANT START] DON'T READ IF YOU'RE TOO SENSIBLE
All roms, they're almost the same. People get the sources, compile it, and release it.. and they all looks like the same.
Every non-stock-based (TW) rom looks and runs almostly identical.. They have almost the same functions, almost the same stability, they share the same "device tree" and kernel.
Even boeffla's kernel has no new features for AGES. And the "developer" just blames Samsung and wash his hands.. (and I have "donated" for his app)
I'm sick of no specific S5 stuff, improvements FOR s5 or performance tweaks FOR s5. I bet they mostly don't even USE a S5 anymore.
Even the ****ing microfone has ultra-low recording volume for AGES and no one cares. They just COMPILE what they DOWNLOAD from others and "release" it here.
And there are people THANKING them for making just this. Come on, it's not a matter of being ungrateful, but to be critical. I don't like mediocrity!
If you appear to be totally satisfied with the **** you're receiving, no one will give you more than ****!
And NO, I don't have to "do better" to complain about it or be critical about it. When did GOD say that you can't complain about something just because you can't do better? or it's just a xda's RULE to be a totally grateful lame fanboy about everything you're getting here? I'm just not mediocre.
But anyway.. peace for all.
On my old LG phone I used to run custom ROMs in order to free-up internal memory & squeeze out more performance (on an aging phone) and to get some additional features (on an aging OS). I haven't bothered to install a custom ROM on my Galaxy S5 because:
1) Stock Android 6.0.1 is really good.
2) Rooting enables you to remove bloatware and free up memory, via Titanium Backup. I've got all the apps I want and no memory shortage.
3) Installing the Xposed framework, and some Xposed apps (especially XtouchWiz) has brought to my GS5 all of the "built-in" features that I'd want from custom ROMs.
4) Custom ROMs tend to be a bit buggy and tend to waste a lot of my time because I have to update the buggy ROMs.
I am now perfectly happy with my GS5 and I can't think of a reason why I'd want to hassle with installing a custom ROM. But that's just me.
This sure turned into a whine fest. Install what you want. The great thing about having custom roms is the ability to flash different builds in order to get the features you want. I prefer stock cm13. Only issue that I have is Bluetooth stuttering on wake. There's it. Everything else is stable and predictable. Using xposed with a few modules adds some features normally in RR or Bliss but with, for me, without the lag.
Why I choose custom over stock? I cannot stand the thought of being locked down to a device I own outright. I should have the right to change my status bar. I should have the right to choose what apps I want on my device. I should have the right after paying 600 at the time to full control over my device.
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this became really good thread!! Thank you all for posting your experiences! For me really great and I can save really lot of time!
Please keep posting your choices!
really with Xposed apps is possible to have all features of custom roms?
CM13 is the official stock rom? There is one with root included?
What about "with stock rom you don't have all the control of the phone", is that true even with root?
Thank you
AICP 11
running AICP unofficial on KLTEVZW with unlocked bootloader. Currently have it set up with gestures and all just the way I like. Have flashed a few other 6.0 ROMS but keep coming back to this one. Bluetooth on screen unlock is kinda buggy with screen unlock but is similar to the issues from what I understand with CM13. Android Wear seems to work as it should with first gen Moto 360. I have a note 2014 as well and just use it to stream music to my bluetooth speaker. Tag or PM be and can point you in the right direction if you would like to try it out.
i like and have been using for a while [ROM] [Official & Nightlies] [BlissPop 6.01] 10/7 - [KLTE-SPR-DV-USC]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/unified-development/rom-wip-27-9-14-t2889474
too many
theres just too many but the best ROM i think would be PAC-MAN cuz its got a bit of everything, however i am yet to find a fully working one. closest i could find was Ressurection Remix. its pretty dope.
In my opinion. Tipsy OS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3393668
is the most stable and up to date aosp based rom out there for the S5.
Fast, smooth and zero bugs.
Incorporates the latest theming engine
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/themes/projekt-substratum-t3423623
Xposed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3034811
works as well.
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I'll reccomend VanirAOSP. It is pre-rooted, faster and more stable than CM13, and looks quite cool.
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running AICP unofficial on KLTEVZW with unlocked bootloader. Currently have it set up with gestures and all just the way I like. Have flashed a few other 6.0 ROMS but keep coming back to this one. Bluetooth on screen unlock is kinda buggy with screen unlock but is similar to the issues from what I understand with CM13. Android Wear seems to work as it should with first gen Moto 360. I have a note 2014 as well and just use it to stream music to my bluetooth speaker. Tag or PM be and can point you in the right direction if you would like to try it out.
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Thank you all guys for posting your experiences!!
Chadwick108 do you have a 900F CID11 sold with unlocked bootloader?
G900v
Barabba11 said:
Thank you all guys for posting your experiences!!
Chadwick108 do you have a 900F CID11 sold with unlocked bootloader?
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Have Verizon G900V and unlocked the bootloader using the forums here @ xda
vaniraosp lacks lots of features, as I remember..
Im using aokp with no complains ... it seems faster than others with its default kernel..
crazykernel reboots if you change almost any default options, and boeffla's lacks features and has some untested/buggy governors (less than crazykernel though)
it seems real devs are abandoning s5 as everything is just in an alpha stage forever
Trying out a Sprint S4 (non T version), but not thrilled with the performance of the stock 4.4 ROM. Figured maybe 5+ would be an improvement, but wanted to go with something built for speed and efficiency (ie. not full of bloat) rather than let it update itself.
From what I've read, most people seemed to recommend Dirty Unicorns as a fairly clean and speedy ROM. I'm not looking for heavy modifications and skins or anything like that. Those kinds of things turn me off.
But, it seems that Dirty Unicorns is no longer supported on the S4, the links in the official thread are broken and the DU website doesn't list the S4 as a supported device... oddly, none of the Galaxy phones are listed as supported devices. Were we dropped? What happened? Is it still out there somewhere? Is there any other similar ROM that folks recommend?
I've got TWRP ready to go!
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Trying out a Sprint S4 (non T version), but not thrilled with the performance of the stock 4.4 ROM. Figured maybe 5+ would be an improvement, but wanted to go with something built for speed and efficiency (ie. not full of bloat) rather than let it update itself.
From what I've read, most people seemed to recommend Dirty Unicorns as a fairly clean and speedy ROM. I'm not looking for heavy modifications and skins or anything like that. Those kinds of things turn me off.
But, it seems that Dirty Unicorns is no longer supported on the S4, the links in the official thread are broken and the DU website doesn't list the S4 as a supported device... oddly, none of the Galaxy phones are listed as supported devices. Were we dropped? What happened? Is it still out there somewhere? Is there any other similar ROM that folks recommend?
I've got TWRP ready to go!
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BlissPop is a great 5.1.1 ROM, CM13 is also a good 6.0.1 option. If TW is your thing, WickedX is your best 5.0.1 choice.
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mattzeller said:
BlissPop is a great 5.1.1 ROM, CM13 is also a good 6.0.1 option. If TW is your thing, WickedX is your best 5.0.1 choice.
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I don't particularly care for TW or not, I just want to make sure everything works as well as possible (sometimes AOSP roms need to be coaxed into working more than ones based on stock). Also things like Samsung's pedometer (S Health) have replaced my fitbit, and I'm hoping whatever ROM I install will still work with it.
Meanwhile, I can't believe I forgot about CM! I should have thought of that first. Those are always solid once they are officially supported by CM! But I wonder- is CM12 better on this hardware than CM13? In my experience over the years, I've often found that ROMs based on versions officially supported by the device worked better than ones that were pushing newer versions. At least CM12 is based on Lollipop, which IS available for this phone officially. But then again, this is CM we're talking about. If 13 works well, I have no qualms using it. Any advice on that one way or the other?
Dishe said:
I don't particularly care for TW or not, I just want to make sure everything works as well as possible (sometimes AOSP roms need to be coaxed into working more than ones based on stock). Also things like Samsung's pedometer (S Health) have replaced my fitbit, and I'm hoping whatever ROM I install will still work with it.
Meanwhile, I can't believe I forgot about CM! I should have thought of that first. Those are always solid once they are officially supported by CM! But I wonder- is CM12 better on this hardware than CM13? In my experience over the years, I've often found that ROMs based on versions officially supported by the device worked better than ones that were pushing newer versions. At least CM12 is based on Lollipop, which IS available for this phone officially. But then again, this is CM we're talking about. If 13 works well, I have no qualms using it. Any advice on that one way or the other?
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I haven't had any real problems on stock CM 13(officially supported device), I run SynergyOS which is cm based so I can undervolt and underclock. You can get S Health on CM ROMs if you go that route.
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Hello guys, I would like to know from you if its worth it to flash a customrom on my mia1. I've been using it since one year now , and i have keept it stock, just the camera2api for gc.
And over all i've been happy with it.
And have 0 experience with A/B partition phones ,my previews phone was nexus 6.
Is it easy to flash twrp and than a custom rom ?
Any suggestions would be apreciated :victory:
Depends what extra feature you seek.
I use stock happily with xposed
I'll probably use a custom ROM once Xiaomi drops update and support for Mi A1.
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I'll probably use a custom ROM once Xiaomi drops update and support for Mi A1.
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Thats what i've been thinking too , its not that i need any more features , im used to stock android.
In my opinion, nowadays smartphones already have many cool features and don't really require custom mods, like root or custom roms, however there are still a few but pretty strong reasons why you would like to flash a custom ROM:
- You'll always have the latest Android OS and security patches without having to wait like on stock ROM
- You'll have a wide range of customization possibilities so you can set your Mi A1 just on the style you want
- You'll also have the possibility of using custom Kernels which can give you better performance, specially in gaming or if you're more of a battery guy, they'll focus more into battery, depending on what you're looking for
- You'll be able to root your device which also opens many possibilities (mainly using root apps) but it's also pretty useful specially with that magisk modules thing which allow you to install things like the stock Mi A1 camera on custom ROMs, apps like Viper4Android (which is an equalizer with premium sound quality), etc.
Last but not least, keep in mind that the stock ROM already is very smooth and has a great battery life, so don't expect custom ROMs to be better than that, from my experience I can tell that custom ROMs are pretty close or equal, but I haven't found a ROM that gives better battery life than stock (maybe there are some or maybe it just needs some kernel tweaking, however I'm not really into kernel tweaking lol)
My advice: If you're looking for latest updates or customization, go ahead and flash a custom ROM, every other thing can be done on stock, keep in mind that the stock ROM can also be rooted or flashed with a custom kernel
I'm actually using NitrogenOS with Moun kernel and I couldn't be more satisfied, ROM feels stable, smooth and has a fairly decent amount of customization along with latest Android 9.0 and latest security patches without having to wait for them like on stock ROM.
Aaaaand also keep in mind that if after trying custom ROMs you don't like them, you can always come back to stock, like if you've never flashed a custom OS, so I would try it out, if you want I can guide you through the whole process on telegram
Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer:
Xiaomi seem to not be that good with speed & quality of updates. I haven't experienced many bugs myself but just the fact how slow updates are compared to custom ROMs and the fact that Magisk doesn't work properly on Stock made me just forget about it and flash a Custom ROM.
The question has to be asked.... What do you want you don't already have?
If a custom rom offers a feature you need then yes do it otherwise I have to ask why would you want to?
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In my opinion, nowadays smartphones already have many cool features and don't really require custom mods, like root or custom roms, however there are still a few but pretty strong reasons why you would like to flash a custom ROM:
- You'll always have the latest Android OS and security patches without having to wait like on stock ROM
- You'll have a wide range of customization possibilities so you can set your Mi A1 just on the style you want
- You'll also have the possibility of using custom Kernels which can give you better performance, specially in gaming or if you're more of a battery guy, they'll focus more into battery, depending on what you're looking for
- You'll be able to root your device which also opens many possibilities (mainly using root apps) but it's also pretty useful specially with that magisk modules thing which allow you to install things like the stock Mi A1 camera on custom ROMs, apps like Viper4Android (which is an equalizer with premium sound quality), etc.
Last but not least, keep in mind that the stock ROM already is very smooth and has a great battery life, so don't expect custom ROMs to be better than that, from my experience I can tell that custom ROMs are pretty close or equal, but I haven't found a ROM that gives better battery life than stock (maybe there are some or maybe it just needs some kernel tweaking, however I'm not really into kernel tweaking lol)
My advice: If you're looking for latest updates or customization, go ahead and flash a custom ROM, every other thing can be done on stock, keep in mind that the stock ROM can also be rooted or flashed with a custom kernel
I'm actually using NitrogenOS with Moun kernel and I couldn't be more satisfied, ROM feels stable, smooth and has a fairly decent amount of customization along with latest Android 9.0 and latest security patches without having to wait for them like on stock ROM.
Aaaaand also keep in mind that if after trying custom ROMs you don't like them, you can always come back to stock, like if you've never flashed a custom OS, so I would try it out, if you want I can guide you through the whole process on telegram
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I ve been using custom rom since my firet android phone the s3 and still have it , i have 4 phones now i9300, i9505, nexus 6 all are on custom rom, and mia1, i ve been afraid to tweak mia1 becouse of a/b partition , but also havent felt the need yet, becouse till now xioami has released the updates in time (even though at the end of the month, on nexus 6 it was the same)
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The question has to be asked.... What do you want you don't already have?
If a custom rom offers a feature you need then yes do it otherwise I have to ask why would you want to?
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Mostly i would like on screen buttons , and the headphone volume got lower on oreo, in nougat it was great , this are the only reason i would like to try a custom rom
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Mostly i would like on screen buttons , and the headphone volume got lower on oreo, in nougat it was great , this are the only reason i would like to try a custom rom
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I guess rooting would be enough then. You can change both with magisk (or build prop settings afaik).
I liked LOS to try out something new but came back to stock. Now I am thinking of rooting again for bt volume.
Another great reason is camera2 for google camera. Way better than stock IMO
Better flash custom roms after xiaomi drops the updates. Like after a year Pie updates.
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I guess rooting would be enough then. You can change both with magisk (or build prop settings afaik).
I liked LOS to try out something new but came back to stock. Now I am thinking of rooting again for bt volume.
Another great reason is camera2 for google camera. Way better than stock IMO
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Or xposed
orgert said:
I ve been using custom rom since my firet android phone the s3 and still have it , i have 4 phones now i9300, i9505, nexus 6 all are on custom rom, and mia1, i ve been afraid to tweak mia1 becouse of a/b partition , but also havent felt the need yet, becouse till now xioami has released the updates in time (even though at the end of the month, on nexus 6 it was the same)
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Don't be afraid of A/B Partition, CosmicDan TWRP very easy to use