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Hi all,
Had a quick search round these parts to see if anyone has ask about it, and apparently now
I've noticed that the touch flo interface has become really slow again, most notably when bringing down the notification area; it's a good 5 - 8 seconds before it comes down to where my finger is! Another way I can judge it is by playing ThrottleCopter, any lag makes the game unplayable...
The first time, the culprit was Last.fm's offcial app, and gettign rid of it made it all spring-chicken again, but I haven't downloaded any new apps of late...
*Please* don't tell me I need to reboot my phone every week or so to stop it being laggy; That's why I ditch my Tytn II !!!
Many thanks for any help provided, and if you require more info (I'm guessing an app list, or ROM version [Stock from T-mobile]), ask please!
...Does no one else have this problem? It's really bugging me, insofar as that it's becoming unusable without rebooting it again, and not placing calls when tapping a contact in the call history list.
Do you use Peep ?
If you are, log out of Twitter via the social networks section in Settings and try another client like Twidroid (which uses its own independent login)
Made a huge performance difference to me on the initial stock Orange firmware.
Else wait for the T-Mobile v2 firmware or go MoDaCo.
@Joemax:
I don't use Peep or Twitter, and have made sure it's "logged out" in the settings menu, but can't access the Peep settings menu as I haven't (ever) logged on.
Thanks for the reply, as I quite keen to find the source of the problem. The only other thing I've heard thus far is that rooting the phone _can_ give a speed boost, but it's not been confirmed?
Rooting on its own won't speed up your Hero or any handset as far as I know.
But if you root and then replace the firmware with MoDoCo's you will see a speed boost. His ROM is based on the latest HTC firmware release.
The other thing would be to turn off all the background notifications that apps you have put on the Hero are setup to do... not the stock ones, but apps from the Market you have loaded.
Some of these put persistent information in the Notifications panel and these may be slowing down the handset before showing you the panel.
Then enable them one by one gradually until to find the likely culprit.
Some battery monitoring apps and task manager / switching apps, do use too much of the CPU from what I've read.
Worth a try.
Thanks for the help Joemax.
AFAIK, I don't have any non-stock apps that have any b/g notifications, as there aren't a whole lot of apps on my phone (a couple of games, boring utilities like the compass), but I have got the battery status widget, which may be the culrpit... Fingers crossed
Whenever I have used skype my hero lags. I always have to kill skype even when I exited the app correctly. Maybe this applies for you as well? Did you try to kill some apps (check after each kill if performance is better)? this is how I found out the skype issue.
I have TasKiller Full, and I do kill off apps periodically, and haven't noticed skype in the background, although the Last.fm one kept on coming back even after a force kill .
It's a useful app for me (as I use Skype as my main IM), so I'll onyl get rid of it should it be the fault.
Just checked now, as it goes, and there are no non-stock apps running, as it's still slow - taking about 3 seconds for the notification bar to catch up. As for notifications, the only ones I've noticed since the joemax asked the question is Gtalk, Gmail, and the phone ones (sms, missed calls), and the USB one once plugged in.
Oh dear... it's not looking good to find the source, is it? I mean, short of deleting all non-stock apps and putting them back on one by one...
Hi guys,apologies if this is covered elsewhere but search is bringing up too many random similarities for it to adequately solve this for me and after reading the majority of threads in their entirety, times a ticking and I could do with more concrete data before finally committing to this beast myself
I would have thought that by now there would be a single thread listing the confirmed issues that multiple user's have with their device. Obviously the camera issue is well documented but are there other "issue's" ,that could be accurately described as a fault ,that affect many users?
I appreciate that what would appear to be an awful lot of the claimed faults in the Leo section seem to be down to owners not knowing how to do something that the hd2 is perfectly capable of and as such are usually solved quickly by the knowledgeable dudes on here and also that guy's/gal's aren't likely to start posting that they're perfectly happy with the hd2 therein skewing the general perception of its performance when you browse through the threads on here!
let the battle/flaming/whatever commence
SMS messages not being sent/received randomly.
ageorgiou1984 said:
SMS messages not being sent/received randomly.
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This is not really a problem...
THIS IS A DISASTER
Xeon said:
This is not really a problem...
THIS IS A DISASTER
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I totally agree.
see this thread guys
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588546
There's a spelling mistake in the Wireless controls screen. Under Airplane mode it says Disable all wireless connectionss
jakem said:
There's a spelling mistake in the Wireless controls screen. Under Airplane mode it says Disable all wireless connectionss
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What ROM? UK O2 is fine.
I've got a problem with the youtube links. When in opera or IE, clicking on a video doesn't load up the stock youtube client on the HD2.
Nor does the stock client have a log in so you can see your favourites.
I cant find the stopwatch or the timer app, I've been looking for like 2 days I might just be blind. Any ideas?
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I have read about this issue but not had it happen to me once yet, I have sent about 40 messages since I got the phone from O2 on Friday and I have received about 30. All of them without issue.
Did you get yours from O2 or is it a sim free model from elsewhere with your O2 sim in it?
I get the "disable all Wireless connectionss" here too. Can't say a typo bothers me, but it's a little surprising.
Sim free hd2, ROM 1.43.405.1 (70124) No other problems i've noticed though, but I don't send all that many TXTs.
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what rom? Uk o2 is fine.
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1.43.405.1 (70124) wwe.
Alarm does not work
I can set an alarm, allocate a sound, but the alarm only comes up as a notification. I was late for work dammit!
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I can set an alarm, allocate a sound, but the alarm only comes up as a notification. I was late for work dammit!
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If you rely on WM to wake you up at morning you are a brave man.
Background intermittent hiss when talking
Well its looking good so far then..till now we seem to have:
A) camera pink blobby issue with a hotfix on the way..
B) sms' doing what they want but not what you want also with a hotfix in the wings apparently..
C) some background noise for a few of you
and it's looking good for me as a camera on a phone is a gimmick,I hardly ever send sms and if the background noise can be heard in my truck it'll have to be louder than its volume
Thanks for the comments guys and if anyone else has any others please feel free to add them on
I've managed to lose my opera's multitouch after a bit of tweaking and program installing, though that may well be my fault....
I also have the calendar bug
And I have a weird texting bug whereby sometimes when replying to messages, when I'm trying to type a message in phone keypad mode, when i press the button for a,b,c only 2 comes up and if i try and press another key, then the same. basically, it only outputs numbers.... its very annoying and very hard to solve!
My 'issues' so far....
Camera, pink, and unusable viewer in low light (almost cant see anything).
Battery life, maybe 1 day at best.
WM tick box's way too small for finger touch.
Volume rocker, doesnt work in 50% of my games/apps including you tube!
No haptic feedback in Opera.
No pinch zoom in IE.
Lag when entering text in sms conversation mode.
No sent sms confirmation sound or on screen notification (sent the same message 3 times before i realised it had actually gone!!).
If used to solve above problem delivery reports stay in inbox like messages so every other message is a DR!
Emails do not mark as read unless opened in WM viewer not the sense UI.
No easily accessible task manager.
Programs do not close on exit but minimize so stay running in RAM.
Screen does not rotate in all menu's/apps etc...
Opening internet based Apps does not prompt you as to how to connect ie:WiFi or OTA instead defaulting to OTA unless you have already turned WiFi on.
Facebook App is nigh on pointless, cannot 'like' anything or see comments left, etc..
Windows Mobile is way to prominent and should be buried deep behind the Sense UI, specially as we do not have a stylus!
Whole UI feels messy being not really a WM UI and not 100% Sense UI.
Thats a brutal unbiased honest opinion!
The phone itself, hardware, asthetics, etc... are all excellent but the OS and UI are a long way from the polished experience I expected from a flag ship phone.
Some of these can be fixed with Reg tweaks or 3rd party Apps but............ we shouldnt have to!
Karlos
- Battery drain,
- FM radio reception quality,
- Of course, camera,
- Opera : sometimes displays web pages like Google cache: only text, no images/background
Of all listed problems, the only one I have is the camera. Not even the SMS, every time I send a message, it's delivered right away.
I have one more issue for you. After I changed timezone to Russia which don't have AM/PM time division(clock range is from 00:00 to 24:00), I can't create a new appointment later than 12:00, because in the HTC calendar I don't have an option to setup time later than 12:00 This is very very annoying.
A common complaint from people adopting Android Wear is the quick, single vibration for notifications. I'm one of those people that can't miss important notifications and am willing to be pestered until I acknowledge them.
There are a few good Android apps for making the phone do repeating notifications. One I've recently come across is actually called Repeating Notifications https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.intoorbit.renotify&hl=en
It is elegantly simple and incredibly close to what I think we need but unfortunately, the developer created it pretty much for his own needs and doesn't see himself getting an Android Wear device.
eNotify https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hermes.enotify&hl=en is also pretty close but it has SO many confusing functions it's hard to find one's way around and it only works for SMS and Email (I'm actually only using the SMS part).
In my opinion the perfect app for Android Wear would just sit quietly in the background on the watch or on the phone and monitor the watch for existing notifications and if it saw any it would periodically vibrate until acknowledged.
Additional enhancements would include:
The ability to set which notifications would/would not get repeated (i.e. I don't need repeating notifications for Google Now cards, but I'd want them for SMS, MMS, Missed Calls, Voicemail and some other apps.
The ability to set how frequently, for how long and what vibration pattern would be used.
The ability to set frequency, duration, and pattern on an app by app basis.
I am not a Dev so I don't know if there are technical limitations that would make it impossible but have funded/managed a few dev projects. I would certainly pay regular play store prices for an app that would do that and would even consider funding development to get it going.
Anybody Else?
Any Devs out there that could speak to the feasibility/obstacles?
Any Devs out there that want to give it a shot?
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A common complaint from people adopting Android Wear is the quick, single vibration for notifications. I'm one of those people that can't miss important notifications and am willing to be pestered until I acknowledge them.
There are a few good Android apps for making the phone do repeating notifications. One I've recently come across is actually called Repeating Notifications https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.intoorbit.renotify&hl=en
It is elegantly simple and incredibly close to what I think we need but unfortunately, the developer created it pretty much for his own needs and doesn't see himself getting an Android Wear device.
eNotify https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hermes.enotify&hl=en is also pretty close but it has SO many confusing functions it's hard to find one's way around and it only works for SMS and Email (I'm actually only using the SMS part).
In my opinion the perfect app for Android Wear would just sit quietly in the background on the watch or on the phone and monitor the watch for existing notifications and if it saw any it would periodically vibrate until acknowledged.
Additional enhancements would include:
The ability to set which notifications would/would not get repeated (i.e. I don't need repeating notifications for Google Now cards, but I'd want them for SMS, MMS, Missed Calls, Voicemail and some other apps.
The ability to set how frequently, for how long and what vibration pattern would be used.
The ability to set frequency, duration, and pattern on an app by app basis.
I am not a Dev so I don't know if there are technical limitations that would make it impossible but have funded/managed a few dev projects. I would certainly pay regular play store prices for an app that would do that and would even consider funding development to get it going.
Anybody Else?
Any Devs out there that could speak to the feasibility/obstacles?
Any Devs out there that want to give it a shot?
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As discussed with you, this will all be coming to the next release of lightflow. I'm working on it today and making good progress.
@andrewpmoore has been reporting great progress with additional implementation for wear in Light Flow. I'm excited to see what he releases.
In the mean time, I've stumbled across Vibration Notifier. It doesn't have any LED controls but can push repeating notifications to the watch.
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@andrewpmoore has been reporting great progress with additional implementation for wear in Light Flow. I'm excited to see what he releases.
In the mean time, I've stumbled across Vibration Notifier. It doesn't have any LED controls but can push repeating notifications to the watch.
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I know this is a very old thread but vibration notifier no longer is a wear os app. Any new solutions?
Hi all,
I don't know what Google and especially Samsung were smoking when releasing Android Lollipop, but the new "interruptions" were really a bad idea IMHO.
If Samsung had just copied what Google did there, it would be still ok, but Samsung removed the schedule option in the interruptions menu! Why Samsung, why? I just want to disable all notification between 10pm and 7am, but still be able to receive calls and let my alarm get off at 6:30am.
I understand that what I want can be configured with priority interruptions and it looks like it's working like intended except the scheduling part which was completely removed by Samsung. So now I have to turn priority interruptions on and off manually and if I forget it, some incoming spam mail may wake me in the middle of the night, wtf Samsung!
Is there a way to schedule this switch somehow automatically?
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Hi all,
I don't know what Google and especially Samsung were smoking when releasing Android Lollipop, but the new "interruptions" were really a bad idea IMHO.
If Samsung had just copied what Google did there, it would be still ok, but Samsung removed the schedule option in the interruptions menu! Why Samsung, why?
Is there a way to schedule this switch somehow automatically?
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Yes you are completly right ,Samsung decided to cut even more in the new notification strategy on the Note 4 then Google did originally and no it's not possible to schedule like it is in the "complete" Lollipop release
Seems not a very interesting topic based on the amount of replies in this thread - anyway, I found some "solution" which I'd like to share with you
I remembered that I bought Tasker a long time ago out of curiosity, but as this app is pretty complicated (for me), I never really used it. I just gave it another try and I'm happy that it can deal with "interruptions", so it can be configured to set interruptions to priority mode for a certain period of time which is exactly what I want.
As I still don't like this app, do you know of any other similar apps that can deal with interruptions but have a nice and shiny user interface?
Upgrading from the S5, Chrome Push Notifications were almost always instantaneous, and I never once missed a notification. On the S8, many are delayed and I miss a huge number of them, mostly when my phone is "off" (eg, in my pocket). Anyone else experiencing this, or know how I can fix it? The only thing that has changed is the phone, so it's definitely something with the S8 (or possibly the kernel version running on it). Seems to happen on both wifi and cellular network. I need these notifications, so any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
Update: Here is how to fix the issue of not getting notifications for an application on the Samsung S8, or probably any Nougat device:
Go to Settings -> Apps
Click the : Menu in top right, select -> [Special Access]
Select > Optimize Battery Usage ->
Click the dropdown menu towards the top of the screen that says: "Apps not optimized [v]" -> change to [All Apps]
Add any application you want to get notifications for without delay, all the time. Eg, Chrome, Gmail, Facebook, etc.
Hopefully Google will fix the overzealous battery optimizations soon so we don't have to do this!
Oh boy. I love the phone, but something in the RAM and Battery optimization is killing all background apps, including your Chrome. Drives me nuts, every time I switch between apps and return to previous, its restarted, which means forgots to where I was. Very annoying when reading news, Facebook etc. Seems like there is no fix for it at the moment.
Excluding apps from battery optimization doesn't help at all. Everyone think is Nougat problem, but my S7 edge didn't have the same issue.
I thought I'm the only one with delayed notification issue. I tested the gmail notification on my s8+. The phone was in standby mode on my pocket and I sent the email from another account. No notification until 4 minutes later. With my other phone notifications are instant. I have issues with other app notification as well. The forums apps will not even notify me anymore if someone responded to my post.
It is definitely related to some overly aggressive battery/cpu/ram optimizations on this phone. I also have seen weirdness in other apps, like you guys mentioned. However, one exception is AquaMail, which when I set it back up on this phone during install, it explicitly asked me to click a thing that took me to some deep setting that allowed me to excluded AquaMail from some battery or some other optimization. I don't remember, unfortunately, because I was just trying to get my phone setup, and didn't think it'd be such a widespread issue. I'll try to dig around and see if it still shows a way to get back to that setting, or if there is a way to add other apps while IN that page.
I also have the battery optimization thing to "Off" and it's not monitoring apps (so it says). In developer settings, there's a background apps setting, default is "standard limit", whatever that means, but the largest choice is 4, which seems really small...
This is definitely frustrating, I love the hardware side of this phone, it's amazing, but the software/OS execution seems like a huge miss, almost like it went completely untested live. Hope either they fix these issues soon, or someone figures a way to do so.
The interesting part is that I have too under Battery: Power saving modeto OFF, but that doesn't stop the phone still to put apps to sleep. An hour ago I had a notification that 13 aps will be pit to sleep, even that I have power saving mode to off.
It is very annoying: if I have clicked form something(web page or Facebook, Upday etc) to a link and start reading, but in the mean time I have a message and open it to respond, when I am back to the first app with the open link, it gets reloded to the original page as I have never clicked on the link. Facebook is very good example.
I can't even seem to figure out how to get to a RAM usage screen in settings at all on this phone. I'm curious if it's something sucking down all the RAM causing apps to swap on/off, or it is just an aggressive optimization setting somewhere.
Sounds to me like a Nougat issue rather than anyhting to do with this phone. This is exactly the sort of thing that has worried me constantly since i first heard about this kind of battery saving feature they decided to implement in Nougat.
Have any of you been using Nougat on your previous device without having this issue? If not then I would say it is probably Nougat causing it.
I have similar with bluemail where sometimes it doesnt notify me of hotmail emails very quickly but i put that down to bluemail being a bit slow sometimes since it did it on my S5 too.
This is my first experience with Nougat. stoyank said his S7 on Nougat did not have this issue, fwiw.
I'll take reliable apps over better battery any day of the week. This is pretty ridiculous, and even more so since there doesn't appear to be a way to fix/turn it off!
Update:
Found the settings page:
Settings -> Apps -> : Menu : Special Access -> Optimize Battery Usage -> Apps not optimized [v] -> All Apps
On this page almost everything is listed as "on". I scrolled through, turned Chrome, Chrome Device Library, and Google Services Framework OFF. No idea if this will help, but hopefully it will.
Will let you guys know later today if I missed any more updates. There might be another service needs turned off on this page that I missed. If you're missing updates in one of your apps, try turning that off in this page, and see if it helps. I'm guessing and hoping it does work, because AquaMail was one of the few things listed here as Off (from my config thing I did when I setup the phone) and it always receives emails instantly through push.
Update 2: My wife's S7 apparently has this same issue since it updated. She often doesn't receive facebook notifications since it updated her phone to nougat. She just assumed it was the facebook app that was bugged. Yikes! Not sure how this hasn't become a bigger issue, surely there are tons of people that need reliable push notifications for various apps. Hopefully my fix above works as a band-aid until a broader fix is implemented.
My Galaxy s7 edge was updated to Nougat for good few months before I got the S8. However I have not experienced similar issues. Most of the apps did not need to reload every time I switch between them. I am not bothered about getting an email a couple of minutes late, but browsing news, or wifi streaming music to an external player is non usable at the moment. It looses conection, reload pages, every time I scroll down on Facebook and swithch between apps, it seems as it goes back to the top of the news feed, loosing where I left it.
A week ago I was watching on YouTube a comparison between iPhone, S8, pixel and some other crap, and surprisingly on a speed test and re-opening the already open apps, the Galaxy S8 came as last as it seems that needed to reload all apps again. You can imagine the shock I had, since I don't like iPhone, but it came first, nearly twice faster.
Need a fix soon, as I already give my Galaxy S7 edge to the wife. Can't get it back.
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My Galaxy s7 edge was updated to Nougat for good few months before I got the S8. However I have not experienced similar issues. Most of the apps did not need to reload every time I switch between them. I am not bothered about getting an email a couple of minutes late, but browsing news, or wifi streaming music to an external player is non usable at the moment. It looses conection, reload pages, every time I scroll down on Facebook and swithch between apps, it seems as it goes back to the top of the news feed, loosing where I left it.
A week ago I was watching on YouTube a comparison between iPhone, S8, pixel and some other crap, and surprisingly on a speed test and re-opening the already open apps, the Galaxy S8 came as last as it seems that needed to reload all apps again. You can imagine the shock I had, since I don't like iPhone, but it came first, nearly twice faster.
Need a fix soon, as I already give my Galaxy S7 edge to the wife. Can't get it back.
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Try my suggestion in the post above yours, see if that helps. So far, I haven't missed any notifications, but it's too soon to tell, and I haven't had my phone in my pocket, but on my desk.
I know you can cherry pick some apps and exclude them from being monitored, and power optimised. However, not all apps are listed under "+add apps" for example Chrome, Upday, Facebook and many more.
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I know you can cherry pick some apps and exclude them from being monitored, and power optimised. However, not all apps are listed under "+add apps" for example Chrome, Upday, Facebook and many more.
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Settings -> Apps
Click the : Menu in top right, select -> [Special Access]
-> Optimize Battery Usage ->
Click the dropdown menu towards the top of the screen that says: "Apps not optimized [v]" -> change to [All Apps]
Lander3 said:
It is definitely related to some overly aggressive battery/cpu/ram optimizations on this phone. I also have seen weirdness in other apps, like you guys mentioned. However, one exception is AquaMail, which when I set it back up on this phone during install, it explicitly asked me to click a thing that took me to some deep setting that allowed me to excluded AquaMail from some battery or some other optimization. I don't remember, unfortunately, because I was just trying to get my phone setup, and didn't think it'd be such a widespread issue. I'll try to dig around and see if it still shows a way to get back to that setting, or if there is a way to add other apps while IN that page.
I also have the battery optimization thing to "Off" and it's not monitoring apps (so it says). In developer settings, there's a background apps setting, default is "standard limit", whatever that means, but the largest choice is 4, which seems really small...
This is definitely frustrating, I love the hardware side of this phone, it's amazing, but the software/OS execution seems like a huge miss, almost like it went completely untested live. Hope either they fix these issues soon, or someone figures a way to do so.
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Try my suggestion in the post above yours, see if that helps. So far, I haven't missed any notifications, but it's too soon to tell, and I haven't had my phone in my pocket, but on my desk.
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Lander3 said:
Settings -> Apps
Click the : Menu in top right, select -> [Special Access]
-> Optimize Battery Usage ->
Click the dropdown menu towards the top of the screen that says: "Apps not optimized [v]" -> change to [All Apps]
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Thanks for that. I knew I have seen those options ony Galaxy S7 but struggle to find them on S8( I know how stupid sounds that). I was looking inder wrong menu(battery). Will monitor for a day or so and will see how the phone behave.
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Thanks for that. I knew I have seen those options ony Galaxy S7 but struggle to find them on S8( I know how stupid sounds that). I was looking inder wrong menu(battery). Will monitor for a day or so and will see how the phone behave.
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No problem. It was in a weird spot. Seems to be working great so far, I'm back to instant notifications, something that wasn't happening before. Will give it a few days til I call the all clear.
Still annoying we have to do this at all. Hope Google gets it fixed. I saw people complaining about it back in August, so I'm not too hopeful of anything immediate.
I would say my fix works. I have received every notification in a timely manner. Updating the first post to reflect this.
I resolved my gmail not in push mail mode by simply removing the re-adding the accounts.
I did that on Google Inbox app as I have issues getting any email notifications. Still not receiving any!
I deleted the app, deleted cache, put it as priority, removed from optimize battery list, everything! Still no notifications for email via Inbox! WTF
Posting just to say I already have made sure gmail isn't being put to sleep but I'm also not getting mail notifications reliably on my S8+. Missed work emails on more than a few occasions by hours because of this.
Ok I was able to fix it finally by: Deleting Google Account and re-adding again.
Email (Inbox app) notification work now