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I'm planning to root my Huawei P8 Lite and remove all Google apps. I have some questions about this.
Since I will be using the stock ROM which was designed to be used with Google apps, what are the implications of removing them?
For example, there are some entries in settings that concern Google apps (keyboard, location, search, etc.). What will happen to those after I remove all Google apps?
I have never used stock ROM without Google apps so far, only CyanogenMod without Google apps on my old phone.
Also, what would be the best way to remove Google apps? I have have one way (olivier-m on GitHubGist, can't post a link), but it seems that this list is for ICS and JB. Is that list valid for Lollipop?
Thanks for help.
You need to root and get a root unistaller.
ward0 said:
You need to root and get a root unistaller.
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Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?
If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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bujamin said:
Yes, but how will that affect functionality of the phone?
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Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.
PCSE said:
Obviously you will have to find a way to get your apps and updates. Further you should ensure that you have a different keyboard than the google one activated prior to deletion as well as a browser besides chrome etc.
Also make sure to always do a full backup before trying stuff like this. If it shouldn't work you can still ask us for further advice and reflash your backup.
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I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
headnotfound said:
If you don't want Google Apps, by an iPhone.
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Thank you, your contribution to this thread is invaluable.
bujamin said:
I already have all the alternative apps ready, I've been using F-Droid on my old phone for the last 2 years so that part is taken care of.
Thanks for the tip about the keyboard, I didn't know that. And of course, I will do a backup before trying anything.
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It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.
Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements
PCSE said:
It'd be cool if you could keep us up to date on your experiences, since I'm personally interested in this matter.
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I will. My plan is to backup, root, uninstall Gapps and replace them with F-Droid + open source alternatives. I'm very busy though so it might take few days, just so you know.
Update: I gave up from removing Gapps for time being because I wasn't able to successfully root my phone. I will probably wait until the end of the year until there are more options available (rooting and ROMs). Until then, I disabled Gapps and I'm using alternatives from F-Droid.
mfbcool said:
Nothing bad would happen. I personally keep only Play Store and Google Play Services. I don't need other Google crap such as News Stand, Play Books, Play Music, Gmail, Drive, Youtube and especially Play Movies, Hangouts and Photos. I keep Play Store to buy apps basically and Play Services for in game achievements
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I hope you're right. Of course, I'll make a backup just in case.
I have finally rooted my P8lite and went on a quest of removing Google apps and other bloatware. I removed every app with Google in its name and soft bricked my phone. Luckily I managed to restore it and now I'm trying again, more carefully.
I will consult these lists:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1487073
http://blog.burrowsapps.com/2014/03/what-android-apps-are-safe-to-remove.html
http://androidforums.com/threads/bo...-de-bloat-your-boost-mobile-galaxy-s3.778877/
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.
bujamin said:
However, I would like input from someone knowledgeable on this subject because these lists are either not completely up-to-date not specifically for Huawei.
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I rooted my phone and removed a lot of (system) apps and bloatware. I didn't make a list of all the apps I removed, but I can advice you to install Link2SD app and use the "Freeze" function for apps that you're unsure if they can be deleted. If you freeze the app and there's no strange behavior, it's probably safe to remove...
Hi Please help me, my google play store does not want to download anything, i tried factory restart and clearing the cache and clearing the data, but still not luck.
TIA
I decided today to remove more stuff from my V20. I found out that it has samsung push services installed.
What would be affected if I remove it?
Samsung push would be effected.
Samsung gear watch maybe?
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As stated, you either have a Samsung device you've tried connecting to it or it's an app that came over from a previous device by way of a backup and restore service such as you Google account. Samsung Push is not something pre-installed on your LG device.
@TempezT would you like to create a list of apps you have disabled or removed? A debloat list of sorts. T-Mo H918 here.
CHH2 said:
As stated, you either have a Samsung device you've tried connecting to it or it's an app that came over from a previous device by way of a backup and restore service such as you Google account. Samsung Push is not something pre-installed on your LG device.
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Thank you for clarify that out.
dfogelstrom said:
@TempezT would you like to create a list of apps you have disabled or removed? A debloat list of sorts. T-Mo H918 here.
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I disable the following:
T mobile ID
Android pay
Cloud print
Drive
Google play music
Google play MOVIES AND TV
Hang outs
In apps
Lookout
Removed
T mobile TV
Penup
And some other apps I don't remember right now. As mention by CHH, some apps came from my N7 so I don't know which ones came stock on my V20.
TempezT said:
I disable the following:
T mobile ID
Android pay
Cloud print
Drive
Google play music
Google play MOVIES AND TV
Hang outs
In apps
Lookout
Removed
T mobile TV
Penup
And some other apps I don't remember right now. As mention by CHH, some apps came from my N7 so I don't know which ones came stock on my V20.
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Cool man, we should keep a list updated on all safe apps as we disable them. Some are not as safe as these, but I'm not sure which ones are and aren't lol
This might assist a few of you with the SM-G9550 who're in China (mainland)
This is just a post for noobs (like me) who inevitably pick this phone up while in mainland China and mistakenly realise that it comes with no google framework or playstore and need help. No need to flash HK firmware through ODIN and worry about the consequences. I simply went to my vpn provider (not needed if outside of china), and downloaded my vpn's apk from their site. Installed it without hassle.
Then went to a site called APKmirror, downloaded their suggested diagnostic app (Droid hardware app), which is found on the third last section of their FAQ page (as of this post's date). Then I searched in APKmirror's site for framework, google services, and the play store itself. found suitable ones and downloaded to my laptop. Then from my computer, plonked them onto the phone (had to use Airdroid as my macbook didn't connect to phone), and installed the services framework, then play services and lastly the play store apks. At least I think that's what I did ... Might have not even needed to put the play services on now that I think about it.
Hope this helps.
Cheers.
Google play services already preinstalled，we just need to have VPN to work.
surprisingly found inbuilt Radio which is missing in international version ?
I have only concern with GPS ! everything in Chinese ?
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ran816 said:
Google play services already preinstalled，we just need to have VPN to work.
surprisingly found inbuilt Radio which is missing in international version
I have only concern with GPS ! everything in Chinese
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Yes I suppose so, as mine came with some sort of Google out of the box... But it was a neutered variety. Only let me download some Google apps from Samsung store. Couldn't get play store to work, or some other things working, and Google Chrome wouldn't allow log in. So... Not sure why yours allowed different access levels with just VPN.
I didn't look at GPS but noted Chinese in weather app.. I just changed my weather app to my preferred one and now have English weather. Samsung service app is Chinese, but... I don't really use it anyway.
Cheers.
The HK version also identifies as SM-G9550. I suppose there is something to work out between the two for you to get your Chinese version completely international
In my SM-G9550 Hongkong model, continuous Intra band Carrier Aggregation is not working for Band3 (1800MHz). I bought it from HK and using it in Cambodia
Google play service has already installed in phone,just download a Play store app and VPN
hoped this variant to be standard
Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks
halifage said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a stock ROM without any Google apps or services.
I want to test the phone without Google and see if it is usable.
Is there a script I can use to remove all Google files from the phone?
Thanks
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Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.
strongst said:
Are you aware of it? You can't use the same apps with the same behavior as before. It's not a big deal. messenger apps for example uses google play services for instant messaging. Many other apps are unreliable without play services.
But you need to root your stock rom and can freeze Google play services(only this one is enough for first testing). It's the main service/app that's needed for every other Google service/app/connection.
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vielen Dank
I am fully aware of the repercussions. I want to dive in and delete the files, not just freeze them.
I've used the terminal debloater as suggested by @rajatgupta1998 but it doesn't offer the option to delete lib, jar, xml and other files.
At least i don't get the black screen after deleting, which is better than all scripts i flashed so far.
You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
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You could try NanoDroid, but make a backup before.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk/module-nanomod-5-0-20170405-microg-t3584928
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vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.
halifage said:
vielen Dank,
But i'm not actually looking install microG or any other form of GApps.
I just want to delete the ones that come with the stock ROM to have a Google-free stock ROM.
It seems certain files (like Google Services Framework) cause the phone to be stuck at black screen during boot.
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As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.
strongst said:
As I wrote before, you can do the following on stock rom: just freeze/delete Google play services app and you cut every Google communications. You can't execute play store, YouTube, drive, accounts or whatever Google app. You'll see no Google play services wakelock anymore. If framework files are there after that doesn't matter.
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Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.
halifage said:
Thanks.
Looks like my only option so far.
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Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes
strongst said:
Just do this test and see if it's suitable for your purposes
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Testing now.
@strongst It's actually kinda like having the best of both worlds. It turns out some apps that required the maps API still works, including Maps (from Google).
The added bonus is that is can switch play services on at will.
I just deleted Google apps that i don't use.
Phone has been working without any issues at all. I have very few apps (whatsapp, automateIt, etc). i use xperia keyboard, FOSS apps like new pipe (for youtube), Dnotes (for keep), yalp store (for playe store).
Battery life and SOT have almost doubled.
Just what it says. I have had enough with google. Is there a rom, Cyanogen etc that can completely get me off of google?
Almost all ROMS ship without any google. You have to add the google yourself. Keep in mind with out the google crap you wont have Play Store, etc to get apps in.
You could also look into something called MicroG. Its a replacement of actual google services. The ROM has to support it but not sure which ones do.
Good luck going Google-less. Let us know what you ultimately do. I may jump ship one day too. However, I am too locked in.
Scott said:
Almost all ROMS ship without any google. You have to add the google yourself. Keep in mind with out the google crap you wont have Play Store, etc to get apps in.
You could also look into something called MicroG. Its a replacement of actual google services. The ROM has to support it but not sure which ones do.
Good luck going Google-less. Let us know what you ultimately do. I may jump ship one day too. However, I am too locked in.
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Appreciate your response. I too fear I am tied to them as well. I'll look in to your suggestions. But I need apps to work. I feared that play services/market haven't really been replaced by a third party yet. I will let you know what I come up with and thanks for the jumping off point.
You might check into a debloater to help. Tomatato has a couple and xxx no limits rom. You can get rid of most of google without losing google services and alot of you other aps.
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I'm Google free on Havoc right now. I've been bouncing back and forth between completely without anything Google to having play services installed (with permissions cut down and firewalled from internet access) for years. One thing I have noticed with newer ROMs, I can't delete Gboard, other keyboards won't come up with the phone just turned on lockscreen. I keep it installed (and firewalled), and use Anysoft as my default.
It kind of depends on what you're looking for - if you're open to finding all new apps, try going completely without. If you're completely dependent on some apps on play store, there are other ways to get free apps than the Google play store (f-droid, apkmirror, etc), and a lot of them do work without play services, regardless of what they say in the dependencies. You just get annoying messages sometimes.