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Did some googleing and didn't find much except for some maybes and some oddities that i'm not too sure about so I thought I might come to the experts. I would love to have a small 7" double din head unit in my car running gingerbread or better android on it and tether it to my phone. That way I could add pandora/youtube/siriusxm/navigation/market/fruitslice whatever...
Anyone know of anything out there?
There's a couple on the market I've seen. Many are out there as concepts. In the Barnes &Noble nook forums there is guy who did a write up on how he installed a nook in the dash of his jeep. It's a 7 inch screen and fits with a little Modding. I'm surprised you didn't find any on your search.
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Shinare said:
Did some googleing and didn't find much except for some maybes and some oddities that i'm not too sure about so I thought I might come to the experts. I would love to have a small 7" double din head unit in my car running gingerbread or better android on it and tether it to my phone. That way I could add pandora/youtube/siriusxm/navigation/market/fruitslice whatever...
Anyone know of anything out there?
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Dynavin
Ca-fi
Bybyte
Those are the main ones people have been "keeping an eye on" since last year.
After talking with some friends that are in to car audio, I've deemed them all to be subpar for my needs so i just got a 32gb sammy tab plus, 64gb microsd card, and a $30 dash kit that i will mod for mounting. I think the three key things that a real head unit has over mounting a tablet are: 1) easy back up camera solution 2) satellite radio 3) built in bluetooth handsfree. 1 and 3 are possible, just not the easiest, and i have no use for number 2 since i dont subscribe.
*edit* - just realized i had subscribed to the thread boborone is referencing Nook Color in Jeep Wrangler
There is also the more mainstream AppRadio from Pioneer. Search it since I can't post links yet.
I have the Erisin 777A for the past 4 months, generally quite happy about it but wants better sound quality.
Clarion has announced an android head unit, the mirage, http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/28/clarions-android-running-mirage-ivi/
This one has potential, maybe upgrade is in the works for me.
I have been search and I have decided on mounting a tablet as well I just wish there were companies who make custom mounts to make it look OEM
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I have the Erisin 777A for the past 4 months, generally quite happy about it but wants better sound quality.
Clarion has announced an android head unit, the mirage, http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/28/clarions-android-running-mirage-ivi/
This one has potential, maybe upgrade is in the works for me.
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Nice. That's what I want. Too bad its release is in q4. :-(
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Has anyone tried any of these or know if they would be any good hardware wise?
How about the possibility of custom roms or even rooting them?
This one seems the better choice in the fact it's a removable tablet. Not because I want a tablet but because it would be easier to bring into the house for flashing purposes. Never heard of it's CPU mind?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321013490466
This one is quite a nice looking one with non removable screen. Has a Cortex A8 which I've heard of at least
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121016519547
So what's your views and opinions?
So no comments then? I'm really hankering for an Android unit in the car. Will beat the socks off the crappy 2din wince unit i have. The software on that is so cumbersome and doesn't match throughout the different modes.
Ok just found this Parrot Asteroid 2DIN. Looks very good but not available yet.
http://www.slashgear.com/parrot-asteroid-in-car-nav-entertainment-systems-revealed-09207612/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dH3-VAfqjEw
Also after watching some video's of the unit with pad I posted previously it seems that most of the main functions are handled by an internal process in the unit (maybe wince?) which then outputs video and control via the tablet. This has kind of put me off a little bit.
So after watching some other video's of the Ca-Fi I think I am going to go with one of these. The new one is upgraded to 2.3 Android, capacitive touchscreen and a 1ghz processor. So saving my pennies now!!!!!
http://ca-fi.com/en/archives/1027
Okay all this talk of android double din, well I have a double din unit in my car, all self fitted, it has 2 sd slots, 1 for GPS and the other for sd card for media, but was wondering if any of these slots can be used to "install" new os onto the unit.
How does the Os get installed onto these, there must be a way.
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Ok just found this Parrot Asteroid 2DIN. Looks very good but not available yet.
Also after watching some video's of the unit with pad I posted previously it seems that most of the main functions are handled by an internal process in the unit (maybe wince?) which then outputs video and control via the tablet. This has kind of put me off a little bit.
So after watching some other video's of the Ca-Fi I think I am going to go with one of these. The new one is upgraded to 2.3 Android, capacitive touchscreen and a 1ghz processor. So saving my pennies now!!!!!
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Try Componentality Celebrity, it might be what you need. Do you need 2-DIN?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015...VD-player-GPS-Stereo-Wifi-3G/32297415686.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...al-dual-system-carpad/1422130_2034998210.html
any good?
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http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015...VD-player-GPS-Stereo-Wifi-3G/32297415686.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...al-dual-system-carpad/1422130_2034998210.html
any good?
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There's a whole thread about the Newsmy CarPad2 here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2865525
Hey guys,
There's a bunch of Android-based devices out there in the market. I'm looking for the best one that's available - are you able to recommend some unit?
I was hoping to buy the Parrot RNB6, but it seems it's an abandoned project.
Has anyone ever seen any specs on pre out voltage on any of these units? Or even better a digital out? They seem to be all about software on the specs minus the 55w x 4 channel spec, the biggest gripe I have the with main manufacturers of hu out there right now is you either get a nice ui and imo poor pre out voltage or a really terrible ui that is almost unbearable but high voltage, which in turn leads to higher volume and clearer audio. This is what I have found at my price range anyways and am not really willing to drop $2k on a head unit at this point. Anyways i am trying to look through all the links on this page but any help would be appreciated
Edit: guess it's 2/2 pages and not 22 pages haha, guess I did check them all
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Also depends on what car you have.
Erisin have a whole range of Android units with good reviews.
I have this one for Audi A3
http://www.erisin.com/erisin-es9783...-sat-nav-1080p-autoradio-audi-a3-s3_p517.html
Or one with a removeable Pad
http://www.erisin.com/erisin-es8035a-2-in-1-car-pad-unit-android-tablet-gps-3g-wifi_p389.html
Plus a whole lot of posts on similar.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2660662&page=1101
Baz
I have Audi S6 C5 and just need a regular 2DIN unit - it will fit. However, the chinese stuff I'm looking at other threads in this forum seem very crappy and of low quality.
Is there something that can be really reliable, working fast and with good audio quality?
headunit 4.4.4 quad core 3188
I have had mine for more than 6 months
Sound is great ram is only 1gb so app installs stop after pandora and waze, and one or 2 other items
I use a wifi hotspot, on tmobile, $10/month no limits.
pandora now works no matter who drives car, and NAV youtube etc
Not sure newer version of android would help, more ram would help more
I'm in the market for a new HU and I've been following a lot of threads at XDA from the Pioneer based hacks to AppRadio to the Newsmy HUs to now the new Joying 5.1.1 and the octa-core InDashNet units. I've been looking at those last two machines pretty intensely, but I'm trying to weigh the benefits of both.
The InDashNet HU have far more robust components, but they are so new that there are plenty of bugs to be worked out along the way. The Joying units seem to have decent support (for Chinese HU), but I'm a bit more concerned buying into a unit that is using components that are seem like a generation or so behind the InDash unit.
Any others out there with the same dilemma? How did you resolve this? Thx.
I think it's a matter of jumping in, I have had mine JY unit since August and have had many hours of usefulness out of it..
Thus it's coming up to 12 months.. so if I get another 12 months I am happy as Larry..by then it will be time to upgrade as this is a market segment that is only going to grow and get better and better..
It's like all tech, do you wait for the next best thing or do you suck it up, get what's hot now and and use it, then spin it around after you get tired of it.. and with luck only lose a bit of depreciation.. I know that even if I pulled mine out now and sold it for $200 I have had money's worth..
I think the key is to make sure who ever you buy off is giving you the warranty and support so that if you get a defective unit you can send it back.. as it seems the market is awash with some pretty ****ty units.. thus by dealing with someone that has got some cred already you will save yourself some heartache if the unit has a problem...
Depending on what unit you get, Joying can also be WAY cheaper than In-Dash. For example, another thread on here has a link to the Universal fit from Joying on Amazon for like $260. The IN-Dash without a sale or discount is over $400.
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Depending on what unit you get, Joying can also be WAY cheaper than In-Dash. For example, another thread on here has a link to the Universal fit from Joying on Amazon for like $260. The IN-Dash without a sale or discount is over $400.
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That's what I'm seeing too. I'd go with the universal fit model anyway. But having the latest processor/ample amounts of RAM is important too. I'd rather spend more if the Joying unit is choking on itself a year from now. I'd suspect I'd get a longer life out of the model with newer components.
When I bought my Joying they (along with 3 other manufacturers I was shopping at the time) told me the quadcore may not work with 5.1 or newer versions of Android - not ever. Of course they appear to work now so maybe they were full of sales fluff. Regardless, with an OctaCore to support 5, 6, and eventually 7.0 or greater (InDashNet confirmed to me that I would be able to go 6 and 7 when ready) I at least feel that I won't have to buy another unit for my current car unless I really wanted to. Plus, I get responses from InDashNet with better detail. There are slight issues as their platform is newer, but it is definitely quicker and the bugs appear easy to fix.
how often do InDashNet upgrade their platform?
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how often do InDashNet upgrade their platform?
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Once already with another coming soon that they are already testing internally.
So which one would you recommend? The InDashNet units also have far less capable amplifiers. Only supplying 25w per output :/
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So which one would you recommend? The InDashNet units also have far less capable amplifiers. Only supplying 25w per output :/
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I like InDashNet but would wait a couple of weeks to see if the latest updates solve the problems. Both are likely comparable in terms of amplification as it all boils down to RMS rating (ignore max)...you can always add an external one for $50 (plus cabling) and those are easier to install than a head unit.
I was emailed 85W x 4 by InDashNet so I don't know why is says 25W on the InDashNet forum post #1. I use 2 amps myself (1 for front/rear and 1 for subwoofer.)
Personally, I think you should always buy on the back end of technology and not go with the latest. This gets you far far more peformance/$. I would go with the $250 joying and if you want to upgrade in a few years, do it when the octocores are as common and available from as many sources as the quad cores are today and they will also then be as cheap.
If you go with pretty much the only one available today, in 1-2 years you will be sorry you did not wait because someone will come out with a better design that is more refined and has a few more features than the ones available now, but you will have spent so much on the one now, you will not want to upgrade for a long time until you get your "money's worth" out of it first.
Normally this is very true. In fact, if you buy on the back end of this market there are some great dual core units out there. However, they do not work with the latest Android 5.x either and the support from the vendor to upgrade that software is long gone not to mention Android app vendor support. I already can't use some apps who now only support 6.x products. So I did consider what you said but I'll take new if it works good enough knowing that it will see revisions that improve it. Plus, now that I've used OctaCore vs Quad the speed is so much closer to the Japanese units I grew up on.
The Joying HU seems quite fine but I'm afraid 1GB of RAM for android is not enough. Maybe I'm wrong, do you have it? How does it perform?
Also, we all take it for granted, but boot-up time for this is super crucial, if it takes more than a few seconds it's kinda annoying.
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Normally this is very true. In fact, if you buy on the back end of this market there are some great dual core units out there. However, they do not work with the latest Android 5.x either and the support from the vendor to upgrade that software is long gone not to mention Android app vendor support. I already can't use some apps who now only support 6.x products. So I did consider what you said but I'll take new if it works good enough knowing that it will see revisions that improve it. Plus, now that I've used OctaCore vs Quad the speed is so much closer to the Japanese units I grew up on.
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what apps do you use that only support android 6? Marshmallow is on less than 10% of devices:
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/android-marshmallow-adoption-10-percent/
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The Joying HU seems quite fine but I'm afraid 1GB of RAM for android is not enough. Maybe I'm wrong, do you have it? How does it perform?
Also, we all take it for granted, but boot-up time for this is super crucial, if it takes more than a few seconds it's kinda annoying.
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outside of in-dash, very few of these head units have 2 gig, the Ownice C200 and one Pumpkin unit is about it. The S160 from RoadNavi only has 1 gig, but Kotix made a ROM that gives you more RAM
There are a few I wanted to download and try. AUPEO for one. IFTTT as well. Those come to mind. I can't remember every one that I looked to try off the top of my head but there were are good 4 or 5. Not a big deal I guess.
Lookd into Android Head units a couple of years ago (gave it up because they were all pretty terrible to be honest at the time - borderline useless). Amazing that so little has happened since 2013/2014. Most units still rely on the same old awful Rockchip SoC and comes with 1GB of RAM paired with a terrible UI and Android 4.x.
Another sad thing is that most of these units only support Bluetooth 2.1 (Joying included). Bluetooth 4.x offers better audio quality.
Thanks for pointing out the currently best units available on the market @dunksalot. I'm probably going to buy a cheap Joying 5.1.1 and simply live with the lag (?) when switching between apps. It'll probably take quite some time before anything with Cortex A15 or Cortex A72 paired with 2-4GB of RAM becomes available.
I did have Android Auto-support on my wishlist (that way the specs wouldn't have mattered), but that seems impossible to find outside pioneer and kenwood units, which are USD600-USD1900+.
Edit: Or is it better to wait a bit longer? It seems that Joying are working on units with 2GB of RAM according to their FB page, they won't say anything more about it though:
>old awful Rockchip SoC and comes with 1GB of RAM paired with a terrible UI and Android 4.x.
Actually after having a 4.4.1 for a year and now a 5.1.1 head unit for about 6 months I would dispute that.
a) The quad core Rockchip CPU is pretty capable and has run nearly everything I have thrown at it smoothly from every GPS app I have ever tried to HD movies, to Kodi streaming, Netflix, MP3's, all while recording a front dash cam constantly in the background as well.
b) The 1GB RAM is not a big deal. That is what most phones had for a loooong time, and Android is more than able to run with that ram.
c) The UI that is on the KD and Joying units is actually VERY good. It does exactly what it needs to do, and is perfect for the car. I have tried others and they all are not as good, or get in the way of use in the car.
d) Having Android 4.4 vs 5 is not a big deal either. Android 4.x is still the most used version of Android around the world, and is the most stable version as well. I have found 5.1 to be slightly better, and have noticed one bug disappear, but honestly its really marginal a difference. Android 4.x runs every single piece of software I run on 5.x just fine.
e) Android auto seems like a HACK to me so they can sell very low powered head units and push all the work down to the phone. I don't see all that much benefit compared to having a fully capable android device in the dash instead. I would rather have my dash unit be powerful enough to do everything I want it to do instead of having to juggle two devices.
I have frankly been amazed at what I have been able to get out of a $250 that is basically the same price, as if I had done what I was originally going to do and just upgrade my factory car radio to a major brand simple radio with an AUX input for my mp3 player.
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>old awful Rockchip SoC and comes with 1GB of RAM paired with a terrible UI and Android 4.x.
Actually after having a 4.4.1 for a year and now a 5.1.1 head unit for about 6 months I would dispute that.
a) The quad core Rockchip CPU is pretty capable and has run nearly everything I have thrown at it smoothly from every GPS app I have ever tried to HD movies, to Kodi streaming, Netflix, MP3's, all while recording a front dash cam constantly in the background as well.
b) The 1GB RAM is not a big deal. That is what most phones had for a loooong time, and Android is more than able to run with that ram.
c) The UI that is on the KD and Joying units is actually VERY good. It does exactly what it needs to do, and is perfect for the car. I have tried others and they all are not as good, or get in the way of use in the car.
d) Having Android 4.4 vs 5 is not a big deal either. Android 4.x is still the most used version of Android around the world, and is the most stable version as well. I have found 5.1 to be slightly better, and have noticed one bug disappear, but honestly its really marginal a difference. Android 4.x runs every single piece of software I run on 5.x just fine.
e) Android auto seems like a HACK to me so they can sell very low powered head units and push all the work down to the phone. I don't see all that much benefit compared to having a fully capable android device in the dash instead. I would rather have my dash unit be powerful enough to do everything I want it to do instead of having to juggle two devices.
I have frankly been amazed at what I have been able to get out of a $250 that is basically the same price, as if I had done what I was originally going to do and just upgrade my factory car radio to a major brand simple radio with an AUX input for my mp3 player.
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Interesting, so maybe I won't be disappointed if I go down the Joying path. It's not very expensive as you point out, so upgrading in a year or two wouldn't be a pain. Thanks.
I'm not in a big rush though, so I'll probably wait a few more months before jumping on the train.
So far, in all the searching I've done thus far before registering, I couldn't seem to find anything that really satisfied my wonders about these headunits.. The best versions seem to be the 4.4.x headunits, as it seems most people have problems with 5.1.x headunits (ie, lagging, crashing, etc) and there's now a few 6.0 headunits (Ownice C500 and Pumpkin I believe has one).
My problem with the 4.4.x headunits are that they all seem to carry 1GB of ram. 2GB seems to be the sweet spot, but is only found on a FEW of the 5.1.x headunits which inevitably seem to fail due to the seemingly awful roms. That being said, I'm highly interested in the Ownice C500 due to built in 4G (with sim slot), 2GB ram and a choice between 4core/8core (I'd be fine with the 4core, I plan on simply only listening to music and not running any apps except torque).
The problem with Ownice is that it changed name from Winlink directly to Ownice and dropped the old moniker, and I'm not too sure why. Pumpkin seems okay, but everything is 1GB ram I believe. Joying seems good, but it seems they have quite a few issues too. I know that none of these will be GREAT (price v quality issues, etc) but which do you guys feel are best? I'm super picky and don't make decisions until I know for certain that I'm getting exactly what will work for my needs.
Maybe I should create a poll?
Also, I'm quite attracted to the Newsmy Carpad but it seems they have some MCU issues and it doesn't seem to be the most premium headunit.
edit: I know that most of these units are mass produced by the same manufacturer, not sure whether to call these companies "manufacturers" or "distributors."
If you are so picky...then don't go to any of them.
All have more or less something wrong....but if you check for the price.... the mtcd type units (2gb ram) is under my opinion the best choice
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If you are so picky...then don't go to any of them.
All have more or less something wrong....but if you check for the price.... the mtcd type units (2gb ram) is under my opinion the best choice
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Well, in that case I might as well jump on a C200 and install a Malaysk rom or just pull the trigger on a C500 since I've got an extra LTE sim/line open and active.
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Well, in that case I might as well jump on a C200 and install a Malaysk rom or just pull the trigger on a C500 since I've got an extra LTE sim/line open and active.
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Do Malaysk cook roms for c200?
AFAIK only cooked for MTCB and mtcd rk3188 chip.
C200 is not MTCD
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I'm thinking the same things as you!
Mainly the issue with bluetooth, and handsfree mic is disturbing.
Apperantly JBL has a model on their way. CP100 which is a Carplay / Mirrorlink / Android Auto Head Unit. It has been delayed since 1Q 2016 so maybe it will hit the market soon?
It's 399$ though - but maybe the higher price is going to be shown in better stability and higher quality..
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I'm thinking the same things as you!
Mainly the issue with bluetooth, and handsfree mic is disturbing.
Apperantly JBL has a model on their way. CP100 which is a Carplay / Mirrorlink / Android Auto Head Unit. It has been delayed since 1Q 2016 so maybe it will hit the market soon?
It's 399$ though - but maybe the higher price is going to be shown in better stability and higher quality..
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Don't forget the Sony XAV-AX100 is being released right about now.
A little more expensive but a good looking unit.
I'm trying to figure out my next move and it's hard at the moment.
I bought a cheap MTCD to replace my Newsmy that died earlier this year but there are a few things bugging me, like the Bluetooth that people can't hear me through and the broken h.264 decoding.
Still deciding if I try another unit like the Joying 2gb or Ownice C500 or do I just go with a Sony or Kenwood unit and know I'll get decent quality..
decisions, decisions...
Mogelmose said:
I'm thinking the same things as you!
Mainly the issue with bluetooth, and handsfree mic is disturbing.
Apperantly JBL has a model on their way. CP100 which is a Carplay / Mirrorlink / Android Auto Head Unit. It has been delayed since 1Q 2016 so maybe it will hit the market soon?
It's 399$ though - but maybe the higher price is going to be shown in better stability and higher quality..
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I'll have to look that up, does it run Android on its own though? I'd really like to have Torque as I drive a Subaru and would like to make sure she's not gonna die on me (132k and tickin along).
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Don't forget the Sony XAV-AX100 is being released right about now.
A little more expensive but a good looking unit.
I'm trying to figure out my next move and it's hard at the moment.
I bought a cheap MTCD to replace my Newsmy that died earlier this year but there are a few things bugging me, like the Bluetooth that people can't hear me through and the broken h.264 decoding.
Still deciding if I try another unit like the Joying 2gb or Ownice C500 or do I just go with a Sony or Kenwood unit and know I'll get decent quality..
decisions, decisions...
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The AX100 looks promising but it doesn't run Android on its own sadly! The benefit of mirroring both Android and iOS is awesome though. Not too sure if I'd prefer having CarPlay to rely on or if I'd rather have a standalone unit that I can tether BT for calls.
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Do Malaysk cook roms for c200?
AFAIK only cooked for MTCB and mtcd rk3188 chip.
C200 is not MTCD
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Hmm. I thought I had answered you but apparently not. I thought the C200 was an MTC headunit due to running an rk3188 AFAIK??
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The AX100 looks promising but it doesn't run Android on its own sadly! The benefit of mirroring both Android and iOS is awesome though. Not too sure if I'd prefer having CarPlay to rely on or if I'd rather have a standalone unit that I can tether BT for calls.
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No, the JBL and Sony don't run Android themselves.
Personally, I'm realizing that apart from being able to customize it a bit more, I don't care for most of my usage.
Android Auto or Carplay running on good hardware that gets the basics right is almost more important to me now.
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Hmm. I thought I had answered you but apparently not. I thought the C200 was an MTC headunit due to running an rk3188 AFAIK??
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No. It is not MTCD unit.... completely different mcu.... even having same rockchip soc
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If you want to run CarPlay or Android Auto, the sweet spot price/performance wise is the Pioneer AVH-4200NEX.
Costs twice the typical Chinese android head unit ($500), but it's rock solid reliable.
On the other hand , the MTCB or MTCD units are far more customizable. And cheaper.
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If you want to run CarPlay or Android Auto, the sweet spot price/performance wise is the Pioneer AVH-4200NEX.
Costs twice the typical Chinese android head unit ($500), but it's rock solid reliable.
On the other hand , the MTCB or MTCD units are far more customizable. And cheaper.
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Yeah those NEX units are SWEET, but I'm a broke college student so I can JUST afford a Chinese unit. I definitely would've splurged on a NEX or the AX100 if I had the money (which I don't). :\
That's why I'm looking to figure out the general feelings about which manu.'s are best and what everyone feels is the best unit or MCU/Android Version combo.
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No, the JBL and Sony don't run Android themselves.
Personally, I'm realizing that apart from being able to customize it a bit more, I don't care for most of my usage.
Android Auto or Carplay running on good hardware that gets the basics right is almost more important to me now.
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I would love to customize but im startin to realize it's just the geek side of me that thinks that. After all i just want hassle free in car entertainment and Auto / Carplay delivers that.
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If you want to run CarPlay or Android Auto, the sweet spot price/performance wise is the Pioneer AVH-4200NEX.
Costs twice the typical Chinese android head unit ($500), but it's rock solid reliable.
On the other hand , the MTCB or MTCD units are far more customizable. And cheaper.
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The Pioneer AVH-4200NEX is way too expensive compared to the JBL and Sony mentioned in this thread.
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I would love to customize but im startin to realize it's just the geek side of me that thinks that. After all i just want hassle free in car entertainment and Auto / Carplay delivers that.
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That's my issue too. I've had a couple of units, thinking i'll write my own launcher and stuff and have a great time..
In the end, I spend so much time fighting with the basics to just listen to the radio or make a phone call.
Android Auto / Carplay is the changer for me with decent maps, phone and messages without the hassle.
I'll probably still play around with a tablet in the car or something, but the main unit will be a brand name one that handles all the day to day stuff.
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I would love to customize but im startin to realize it's just the geek side of me that thinks that. After all i just want hassle free in car entertainment and Auto / Carplay delivers that.
The Pioneer AVH-4200NEX is way too expensive compared to the JBL and Sony mentioned in this thread.
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Several places sell these Pioneer NEX and the equivalent Kenwood units (factory rebfurb) for $50-100 less.
Pioneer also has a cheaper option, the Appradio, which deletes the DVD player and some other features, but still gives you good Bluetooth and CarPlay. They do not advertise Andoid auto, but it has good Android support.
Crutchfield has it on sale $499 after rebate.
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_130SPDA120/Pioneer-SPH-DA120-AppRadio-4.html
JVC is coming out with a new DVD head unit that supports CarPlay, but they are not supporting Android Auto yet, apparently. JVC is actually owned by Kenwood, and most people are satisfied with their higher-end models.
That Sony looks interesting, have not heard much from the people who have gotten it though. It's brand new...the Pioneer and Kenwoods are in their third gen CarPlay/Andoid auto models and have worked though many little bugs it seems.
The JBL Android auto head unit seems to be infinitely delayed.
The JBL Android delay could be connected to the Harman (Who owns JBL) is about to be sold to Samsung.
Samsung wants Harman so they can compete in "connected technology" which in my terms also include Head Units.
I'm from Denmark, the Pioneer AVH-4200NEX is not sold here.
The frequencies used in some other countries, like Europe, are even (102.8).
The frequencies used here in the US are odd numbers (102.7) and can not be changed.
I guess that's why it's an US only Head Unit.
THe SPH-DA120 is sold here. It looks promising. It doesn't support Android Auto though.
So i'm thinking.. How bad can it be?
You need a HDMI cable, an HDMI adapter. Then you need to setup som funky Bluetooth settings. And after all that **** you can stream music and talk on the phone. No Navi-mirroring etc.
No way i'm going to buy an Iphone to get this to work. So the DA120 is still a no go.
Take a look at this youtube video to see what i mean https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvTU7fVnmRs
Can someone please tell me why it so hard to put in "Hassle free" and both Wireless Android Auto and Wireless Apple Carplay in to a Head Unit
Hey all, I own a 2017 Honda Civic with the Android based infotainment unit. The unit is quite slow and laggy at times when I have my apps I wish to have running on it installed (Google play services, Igo, PlayerPro & tunein radio)
So I am in the market for a good and reliable Android radio, preferably a unit with 2+gb or ram and a decent amount of internal storage.
Anyone else out there been looking? I've looked at Phoenix and ownice but I haven't gotten firm answers to my questions I've had and there hasn't been a lot on reviews after a few months of ownership.
In the past I've owned a offbeand rockchip unit, a crappy newsmy & Indash units. So I've done my share of owning horrible units and seeing how I plan to keep this car for a while I'd like to get a unit that will last a while as well.
Joying seems to be the brand I hear about often in here, sadly they don't have a unit for my year civic.
Edit. I did some searching and found this...
Dasaita 10.2" Android 8.0 Car GPS Radio Player for Honda Civic 2015-2016 with Octa Core 4GB 32GB Auto Multimedia Stereo video 4G
http://s.aliexpress.com/7bQFfI7n?fromSns=
It's running a px5 octacore. Seems like these guys seem to know their stuff from research?
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Well I took a leap and bought the unit. Huge mistake. The unit is flawed. Horrible FM reception, the audio goes out completely on the radio whenever the automatic doors lock or unlock and have been totally left high and dry by the company and Quick Yaun who is the representative from them.
Flat out acoid this company and their garbage. Apparently Pheonix audio in the USA is the same company under a different name. So I would also avoid them as they are just a reseller of dasaita
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Well I took a leap and bought the unit. Huge mistake. The unit is flawed. Horrible FM reception, the audio goes out completely on the radio whenever the automatic doors lock or unlock and have been totally left high and dry by the company and Quick Yaun who is the representative from them.
Flat out acoid this company and their garbage. Apparently Pheonix audio in the USA is the same company under a different name. So I would also avoid them as they are just a reseller of dasaita
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That sucks man. I cant stand our radios. Old ass OS with just as old hardware in a brand new car.
It's true! My factory unit works OK with a few add-on programs but anything past having Igo & tune in radio installed the thing starts to lag badly. I attempted to put the store, music and services on the unit but that brought the thing to a crawl. For now I'm back using the 8 year old radio in my next to new car till the replacement mainboard comes for the dasaita unit. Here's hoping it works otherwise I wasted a good chunk of change in a radio that's a doorstop lol.
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I believe the slowdown is coming from google play services, dont install Google Play Services as it i will deeply bog down the HU.
Hey guys,
Came across this forum by accident, cool to see soemthing like that.
So I'm looking for a new head unit for my car, and I'm really not sure what I should be looking for and would like to get some suggestions.
I can only buy from aliexpress/ebay/amazon.
So my budget is fairly small, and generally I don't really need something that good, I'd like to spare as much as I possibly can, but also get something that will be decent enough so I won't simply throw all my money away.
My max budget is around 160$, but if it will be good enough, I'll prefer spending 80$ instead.
I'll mostly use it for bluetooth(music) + navigation(waze), so I don't really need anything that powerful, on the other hand, my current multimedia system I got really sucks, the touch is barely responsive, and it takes so long to load anything, so that's something I won't compromise on.
One question I have, I currently have a sim card for my multimedia system, now I don't really need internet connection generally, but I do need navigation(with waze), how does that work exactly? Do I need internet connection for that? And if I want to download something from google play, how do I do that?
I've seen a few systems on aliexpress, but I'm not sure which one I should get, the main difference I've seen is mostly between 1GB ram and 2 GB ram. How big is the difference? I believ 2 GB of ram will be more than enough for me, but the prices for 1 GB ram is much lower, and I wonder if that will simply be enough for me.
Thought about something similar to this one: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2G-...85-4a78-9653-da0c68702c7e&transAbTest=ae803_3
Looks fairly good, I'm just not sure I want something that's not pure android, I don't know what android version it's etc.
Seen this as well: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New...74-456c-97da-b4e0fcb83c10&transAbTest=ae803_3
Looks nice, but there is only 1 review, and I can't really know if it's a good product.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2-d...40-4e04-bedc-efc0da8d899a&transAbTest=ae803_3
This one seems to have nice reviews, but it's only 1 GB of ram.
Anyway, would like to get some suggestions please, thanks!
Anyone?
I think you'll find whatever you pick at those price points will have bugs, even the more expensive ones will have them too. For what you want, I would be OK with a quad core 2gb ram unit, with a 16gb rom. Unless you are loading music or will have lots of app data you'll never use 32gb in the car.
The first one I wouldn't pick solely on the processor. I have no idea what a K6 is The fact that it doesn't say Pure Android means nothing. It is
Of those three I would pick the first one. That said for my low budget units I've had good luck with the Hizpo 4 core units. Waze crashes every now and then but it's no big deal.
Like this one:
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bb1v4tkc
To use waze you need to do one of three things. Connect it to wifi and load offline map before you go anywhere, connect the unit to your phones wifi hotspot, or buy a sim dongle and connect it to the units USB. There are units you can put a sim card in but not at the prices you are looking at.
Hope this helps
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A unit with 2GB RAM should be running fast enough for most apps. I was lucky to pickup a T8 processor unit from amazon with 8 core/32G storage /2GB ram. It costed me very little but a week later the price increased by $100 more than what I had paid on amazon.
I would suggest to get the newest model PX30 for ~$145, such as
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/AUT...For-Nissan-Toyota-Volkswagen/32870680923.html
You may try this one on amazon with 8 core/2GB RAM/32G storage, <$100
https://www.amazon.com/2DIN-Universal-OctaCore-RAM-Storage/dp/B07B3NGM3T
Discussion thread of this unit on xda is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ashnet-octa-core-lollipop-head-units-t3353188
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I think you'll find whatever you pick at those price points will have bugs, even the more expensive ones will have them too. For what you want, I would be OK with a quad core 2gb ram unit, with a 16gb rom. Unless you are loading music or will have lots of app data you'll never use 32gb in the car.
The first one I wouldn't pick solely on the processor. I have no idea what a K6 is The fact that it doesn't say Pure Android means nothing. It is
Of those three I would pick the first one. That said for my low budget units I've had good luck with the Hizpo 4 core units. Waze crashes every now and then but it's no big deal.
Like this one:
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/bb1v4tkc
To use waze you need to do one of three things. Connect it to wifi and load offline map before you go anywhere, connect the unit to your phones wifi hotspot, or buy a sim dongle and connect it to the units USB. There are units you can put a sim card in but not at the prices you are looking at.
Hope this helps
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A unit with 2GB RAM should be running fast enough for most apps. I was lucky to pickup a T8 processor unit from amazon with 8 core/32G storage /2GB ram. It costed me very little but a week later the price increased by $100 more than what I had paid on amazon.
I would suggest to get the newest model PX30 for ~$145, such as
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/AUT...For-Nissan-Toyota-Volkswagen/32870680923.html
You may try this one on amazon with 8 core/2GB RAM/32G storage, <$100
https://www.amazon.com/2DIN-Universal-OctaCore-RAM-Storage/dp/B07B3NGM3T
Discussion thread of this unit on xda is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...ashnet-octa-core-lollipop-head-units-t3353188
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That's really helpful, thanks to both of you! I actually looked at the HIZPO one for really long time, and generally it just seems exactly what I need, fairly cheap, android 8, seems pretty good, have buttons.
Regarding the octa core head unit. It ends up with around the same price of the HIPZO including shipping, but one thing I quite fear of is the android version, which is only 5.1, I don't think there's actually a big difference, but it's a risk waking up one day finding that some of the apps you need are no longer supported, what do you guys think? Is it actually a real concern or not?
Also, the HIPZO looks fairly better to me than the PX30, what do you think? A spinning volume button is a huge plus for me.
Thanks again!
msacco4 said:
That's really helpful, thanks to both of you! I actually looked at the HIZPO one for really long time, and generally it just seems exactly what I need, fairly cheap, android 8, seems pretty good, have buttons.
Regarding the octa core head unit. It ends up with around the same price of the HIPZO including shipping, but one thing I quite fear of is the android version, which is only 5.1, I don't think there's actually a big difference, but it's a risk waking up one day finding that some of the apps you need are no longer supported, what do you guys think? Is it actually a real concern or not?
Also, the HIPZO looks fairly better to me than the PX30, what do you think? A spinning volume button is a huge plus for me.
Thanks again!
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The processor of HIPZO unit seems to be T3 based on description. If true it wouldn't be as good as T8. PX30 is a newer MTCD/E unit, and is much better than T3/T8 units based on my experience. It comes with Android 9 as well.
yves31 said:
The processor of HIPZO unit seems to be T3 based on description. If true it wouldn't be as good as T8. PX30 is a newer MTCD/E unit, and is much better than T3/T8 units based on my experience. It comes with Android 9 as well.
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I see, how big is the difference? Usability is the most important thing to me, as I really hate the need to mess with stuff too much while driving, and you can't really distinguish the touch buttons in the PX30 without looking(or guessing).
Because of that, volume button, skip songs etc is really important to me, I can buy external wheel controller maybe and then it could be great. (Costs around 20$ though)
What about the octa core head unit? How cruicial is the android 5.1? I probably won't use much, but waze is very critical to me.
BTW, what is MTCD/E?
Thanks
I wouldn't buy a 5.1 unit now. Yes a T8 is better, the place you'll notice this the most is if you move the maps around with your fingers a lot, or when using video. The T8 isn't a lot faster than a T3, but it has more cache that will speed up anything that requires intensive video movement. My T3 2gb Hizpo is no iPhone 7 and it never will be, but it doesn't need to be I have tried all the latest processors and even 4gb ram units. For sure they are faster but not so much faster that justify the prices I don't think. But I've had the benefit of using and trying many different units. Actually if I could buy a Ownice C500 again with Android 7 I would do it. It's a very fast unit in its current Android 6 rom, but I don't really like the radio. I don't personally like most of the Android 8 look and feel.
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One thing you can do is get a remote steering wheel control unit and use it to control forward back volume etc. The connect to the key 1 key 2 wires on the head unit for cars that don't already have steering wheel controls.
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velocity4 said:
I wouldn't buy a 5.1 unit now. Yes a T8 is better, the place you'll notice this the most is if you move the maps around with your fingers a lot, or when using video. The T8 isn't a lot faster than a T3, but it has more cache that will speed up anything that requires intensive video movement. My T3 2gb Hizpo is no iPhone 7 and it never will be, but it doesn't need to be I have tried all the latest processors and even 4gb ram units. For sure they are faster but not so much faster that justify the prices I don't think. But I've had the benefit of using and trying many different units. Actually if I could buy a Ownice C500 again with Android 7 I would do it. It's a very fast unit in its current Android 6 rom, but I don't really like the radio. I don't personally like most of the Android 8 look and feel.
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One thing you can do is get a remote steering wheel control unit and use it to control forward back volume etc. The connect to the key 1 key 2 wires on the head unit for cars that don't already have steering wheel controls.
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Really like the way you explain. Yes I have also thought about getting a remote steering wheel control unit for almost every head unit I wanted.
If I'm going to need to get it anyway, it doesn't matter much whether I have controllers on the head unit or not.
Would you still pick the HIPZO over the PX30?
I'm actually still using nougat on my phone and really like it, the issue I might think of is compatability, but with android 7 I doubt it will happen very soon.
As for the radio.. Well I'm not going to use the radio at all probably, that's why I have my phones music for.
Do you have other recommendations maybe?
Thanks a lot for the reply!
From what I've read about PX30s, I don't think its any better or worse than a T3 unit. Pick the one you like the most
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