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[Q] "Google Services" app suddenly started using unusually high background data

[Q] "Google Services" app suddenly started using unusually high background data
Please see the attached screenshots of data usage for the past three weeks. Two weeks ago I noticed a steep increase in the amount of background data used by Google Services, from the usual 1 ~ 2MB per week to something as high as 16MB per week. From what I can tell using 3G Watchdog, the majority is outbound traffic. I'm a light data user, only turning on 3G when I'm in transit for 2 hours a day to check email and chat on Hangouts. I don't recall changing anything significant on my phone in that period, aside from app updates and upgrading to 4.3 on the 24th. I'm on a light data plan, with only 100MB monthly quota, so this increase is very significant for me. Right now I have the restrict background data option enabled for Google Services to try to curb this new problem, but I'd still like to know what's going on.

to be honest, that usage is very normal, and still considered not much. anything can cause it to go up this little, yes it only went up a tiny bit. your usage, syncing, background notification checks.. id suggest more that 100mb for any smartphone as 100mb isnt really realistic for a smartphone.

simms22 said:
to be honest, that usage is very normal, and still considered not much. anything can cause it to go up this little, yes it only went up a tiny bit. your usage, syncing, background notification checks.. id suggest more that 100mb for any smartphone as 100mb isnt really realistic for a smartphone.
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Yes, it went up a tiny bit in absolute terms, but relatively this is huge. We're talking about 1000% of what was normal for that app, without change in my usage pattern. I hear you though. 100MB a month is crazy low these days, but for what I use my phone for, it had been more than enough for the past 7 months that I've had the phone. I usually end up with 20 ~ 30MB to spare every month.

Shimakaze said:
Yes, it went up a tiny bit in absolute terms, but relatively this is huge. We're talking about 1000% of what was normal for that app, without change in my usage pattern. I hear you though. 100MB a month is crazy low these days, but for what I use my phone for, it had been more than enough for the past 7 months that I've had the phone. I usually end up with 20 ~ 30MB to spare every month.
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20-30mb to spare? really?
yea, in relative terms, it is a huge difference. i average about 250-350mb per day, id never servive with only 100mb.

simms22 said:
20-30mb to spare? really?
yea, in relative terms, it is a huge difference. i average about 250-350mb per day, id never servive with only 100mb.
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Haha, yeah, my friends on unlimited data couldn't believe it either when I told them I survived on 100mb. They use that up streaming a short youtube video. I'm in wifi range for most of the day. When I'm not, I keep it to emails, text chats, and the occasional live transit locator. On the rare occasion when I do browse the web on the go, I use Opera Mini to compress the traffic. It's definitely doable :silly:

I have the same problem as the OP, only my data usage is 450MB in under an hour. This has never used more than 2-3MB per day in all the time I've had an Android phone. I didn't even realize it till I got a message from my service provider saying I have used 80% of my monthly limit. :crying:
On checking data usage, I found the culprit to be Google Services, under which I see Play Services, Services Framework, Account Manager, Contacts Sync, Network Location and Bookmarks Sync. Is there anyway I can find out which of these 6 caused the data download?
My location access is disabled, and so is my App update over mobile data. My gmail and contacts sync are enabled, but I doubt if that would take 450Mb.
I have now restricted background data, but I sure would like to know the reason for this sudden spurt in data usage.
TIA

Some people are reporting around 180Mb/day data wasted by Google Services since 4.3 OTA was launched. Remember the size of the 4.3 OTA update is exactly 179Mb. MOST (if not all) the affected are using custom ROMs.
Can it be the cause? Maybe the OTA is being downloading again and again but it can't finish the installation process due some reason, possibly related with custom ROMs / Kernels / whatever.

trepamuros said:
Some people are reporting around 180Mb/day data wasted by Google Services since 4.3 OTA was launched. Remember the size of the 4.3 OTA update is exactly 179Mb. MOST (if not all) the affected are using custom ROMs.
Can it be the cause? Maybe the OTA is being downloading again and again but it can't finish the installation process due some reason, possibly related with custom ROMs / Kernels / whatever.
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I am using Carbon ROM, but I don't have any notification for any update...besides I thought OTA update will be a foreground process?
Cheers

canveen said:
I am using Carbon ROM, but I don't have any notification for any update...besides I thought OTA update will be a foreground process?
Cheers
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I don't know, but probably yes according to these people wasting data since OTA was released.

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Some people are reporting around 180Mb/day data wasted by Google Services since 4.3 OTA was launched. Remember the size of the 4.3 OTA update is exactly 179Mb. MOST (if not all) the affected are using custom ROMs.
Can it be the cause? Maybe the OTA is being downloading again and again but it can't finish the installation process due some reason, possibly related with custom ROMs / Kernels / whatever.
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I'm on stock everything, although I did manually flash 4.3. If it's downloading the OTA repeatedly, then it's doing it really slowly for me (like 2MB/hour). That's an interesting theory though.

trepamuros said:
Some people are reporting around 180Mb/day data wasted by Google Services since 4.3 OTA was launched. Remember the size of the 4.3 OTA update is exactly 179Mb. MOST (if not all) the affected are using custom ROMs.
Can it be the cause? Maybe the OTA is being downloading again and again but it can't finish the installation process due some reason, possibly related with custom ROMs / Kernels / whatever.
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who's reporting? may you please refer me to it?
my case appears to be the worst among the bunch: Google Services used 4.4 GBs of data since the 27th

I'm on a cm10.1 nightly on a galaxy nexus and over the last 2 days google services has eaten 300+mb of data (approx 180 the first day then 120 the second until I hit my limit). The 4.3 OTA may very well be causing this problem.
Is this a widespread problem? How can we fix it?
---------- Post added 1st August 2013 at 12:36 AM ---------- Previous post was 31st July 2013 at 11:51 PM ----------
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44157799#post44157799
Some further insight into the problem.

Carbon rom here. Same issue. Massive google services data usage in last few days. Like 600mb + a day.
What is going on?

nexus 4 data usage - google services
canveen said:
I have the same problem as the OP, only my data usage is 450MB in under an hour. This has never used more than 2-3MB per day in all the time I've had an Android phone. I didn't even realize it till I got a message from my service provider saying I have used 80% of my monthly limit. :crying:
On checking data usage, I found the culprit to be Google Services, under which I see Play Services, Services Framework, Account Manager, Contacts Sync, Network Location and Bookmarks Sync. Is there anyway I can find out which of these 6 caused the data download?
My location access is disabled, and so is my App update over mobile data. My gmail and contacts sync are enabled, but I doubt if that would take 450Mb.
I have now restricted background data, but I sure would like to know the reason for this sudden spurt in data usage.
TIA
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******* I'm having the exact same problem! my phone has used almost 500mb in the past day and now I only realised when my data provider sent me a warning message!

just lost 735MB in 3 days! nexus 4 CM 10.1.0-RC2
that's gonna cost me...

Just an update on my phone's situation:
Yesterday I flashed the phone back to stock 4.2.2 (including userdata, so everything was wiped), then upgraded to stock 4.3 again using the Google update service this time (I manually flashed 4.3 last time). I then did a factory reset and wiped cache. Initially the "Android OS" app ate up 6MB of 3G data in an hour without me using the phone at all, but all data usage is now back to normal after I turned off wifi network location service. I'm not entirely sure what did the trick, but I backed up and restored all my apps after the wipe using Titanium, so it's unlikely that a third party app was the culprit. I'll keep an eye out to see if the problem does come back, but for now it seems to be fixed. Not sure how this would help those of you running CM rom.

System Update Issue
I've noticed this same issue since i updated all my Google Play applications last 07/30. Before the update, I did not have this high bandwidth consumption.
Anyways, i've been researching in my phone and tried the following solutions:
First, I restricted Google Services background data, this did not work, it was still consuming my data. So I kept researching and found something interesting, i went to About Phone - System Update, and noticed my phone was consistently trying to update to 4.3 JB (which is 183 MB), and after the download was complete, then a "verification failed" error message was displayed.
At this point, i thought, This is probably the cause i've been losing all of my data. I am running ParanAndroid along with franco kernel for some time, maybe this is the reason the update is failing.
So, a rough solution i did to this meanwhile: Go to Settings -> Apps -> All and disable Google Services Framework, this will ensure that the update is not constantly being downloaded, however, many Google applications will have issues.

Try switching off Wifi and Mobile network location in the settings.
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Indeed it all started on 30th for me too. A fix would be lovely! wonder if the latest CM10.1 nightlies have this problem

trepamuros said:
Some people are reporting around 180Mb/day data wasted by Google Services since 4.3 OTA was launched. Remember the size of the 4.3 OTA update is exactly 179Mb. MOST (if not all) the affected are using custom ROMs.
Can it be the cause? Maybe the OTA is being downloading again and again but it can't finish the installation process due some reason, possibly related with custom ROMs / Kernels / whatever.
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I just checked the system updates tab in my settings and it keeps redownloading 4.3 due to it not being able to install correctly. It is redownloading the rom again and again. Does anyone know how to disable the OTA?

[Q] Please help me find the cause of battery drain

My phone's battery has been sucked dry way too fast since ~may 25.
I am and have always been on stock rom, and I only rooted the phone this weekend in order to use BetterBatteryStats and Wakelock Detector.
I estimate that during a day of heavy use for me before the end of may, the battery usage cannot have been much above 5%/h
According to BBS the phone used 6.4%/h over 7h30m this morning with less than a minute of screen on-time.
None of these things have helped significantly:
Disabling automatic syncing
Setting location mode to "device only"
Uninstalling EVERY third-party app except these most essential: Authy, Barcode Scanner, BetterBatteryStats, Dropbox, DSB Wildcard, LastPass, Sleep as Android (and addons), SuperSU.
Factory reset
*Upgrading to Android 4.4.3
Disabling WiFi to see if that would make a difference
Disabling mobile network data
Using recovery mode to wipe cache
My conclusions (please correct me if i'm wrong):
The drain is not caused by any third party app that I have removed without seeing an improvement
The drain is not caused by Google's location service or account syncing
The cause is not Android itself. I used 4.4.2 for 6 months without problems, and I only upgraded to 4.4.3 last week
The problem is independent of location (WiFi and cell towers). During the 7h30m when I collected the data below and got the corresponding graph, I was both at home, at work and commuting between the two, and I can't see any difference on the graph.
The problem is not related to the runtime, because i used ART almost since it was released with android 4.4 and after the factory reset I have used Dalvik
My suspects:
The issue started while the new version of Google Play Services was rolling out. Maybe it ****ed something up?
Batteries consist of multiple "cells" right? Maybe one of them (about 50% I think) broke?
I have uploaded a logfile from BetterBatteryStats below. That data was collected with account syncing disabled, location mode set to "device only" and only the third-party apps mentioned above installed.
Please contribute with any relevant insight or idea, and don't hesitate to ask for more info or propose experiments, to narrow down the possibilities.
Thanks

Styrkefuglen said:
My phone's battery has been sucked dry way too fast since ~may 25.
I am and have always been on stock rom, and I only rooted the phone this weekend in order to use BetterBatteryStats and Wakelock Detector.
I estimate that during a day of heavy use for me before the end of may, the battery usage cannot have been much above 5%/h
According to BBS the phone used 6.4%/h over 7h30m this morning with less than a minute of screen on-time.
None of these things have helped significantly:
*Disabling automatic syncing
*Setting location mode to "device only"
*Uninstalling EVERY third-party app except these most essential: Authy, Barcode Scanner, BetterBatteryStats, Dropbox, DSB Wildcard, LastPass, Sleep as Android (and addons), SuperSU.
*Factory reset
*Upgrading to Android 4.4.3
Disabling WiFi to see if that would make a difference
Disabling mobile network data
My conclusions (please correct me if i'm wrong):
The drain is not caused by any third party app that I have removed without seeing an improvement
The drain is not caused by Googles location service or account syncing
The cause is not Android itself. I used 4.4.2 for 6 months without problems, and I only upgraded to 4.4.3 last week
The problem is independent of location (WiFi and cell towers). During the 7h30m when I collected the data below and got the corresponding graph, I was both at home, at work and commuting between the two, and I can't see any difference on the graph.
My suspects:
The issue started while the new version of Google Play Services was rolling out. Maybe it ****ed something up?
Batteries consist of multiple "cells" right? Maybe one of them (about 50% I think) broke?
I have uploaded a logfile from BetterBatteryStats below. That data was collected with account syncing disabled, location mode set to "device only" and only the third-party apps mentioned above installed.
Please contribute with any relevant insight or idea, and don't hesitate to ask for more info or propose experiments, to narrow down the possibilities.
Thanks
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Have you tried wiping cache and dalvik cache in recovery? Give them a wipe and let's hope that stop the battery drain.

taodan said:
Have you tried wiping cache and dalvik cache in recovery? Give them a wipe and let's hope that stop the battery drain.
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Hey taodan, thanks for the suggesion. :good:
I forgot to mention that I have used ART almost since it was released with Android 4.4, but I haven't changed the runtime since i did the factory reset.
So I have had the battery draining issue with both runtimes, which makes me think that the it is not related to the runtime I'm using.
I have tried wiping cache from recovery at least once, but I can't remember if I did that before or after the factory reset.
Do you still think that wiping dalvik cache will help?
I will update the original post with the info I forgot here.

Identifying perfect CPU utilization

Here are some screen shots of perfect CPU utilization with stock system and a ton of exposed modules.
What you want is OSmonitor to be at 1 and 2 about 50% to 80% of the time on the usage list, but that is more common with custom kernels. With stock, 1 and 3 becomes more common.
What causes hits to the system to keep OSMONITOR from stabilizing in the top ranges of utilization... quite simple; Modules that directly require the system to update screen or pol processes in background. In simple terms, the need for the OS to do the dirty work.
That is why I don't use Tasker, battery performance enhancements, and themed system type mods. Without them I can get 12 hours on a single charge with minimal sleep time, so by identifying how apps effect the system, one does not need to add overhead to correct, just need to do some detective work.
I noticed that Wanam modules use some CPU by poling the system. Even though there are plenty of good xposed modules, some are dirty in how they operate.
Not that they cause some overhead, but how they interact with other modules if used together.
Even if you find a nice app to do some custom work to your device, some use network connections to send data, either to play store, Google services, or to the developer site for debug or usage tracking. I suspect a bit of overhead is why network polling by such apps should be stopped if possible before dumping one or more because they hot on utilization.
One in particular is Solid Explorer. Not only I blocked ads, I had to block the app as well from background network usage. It is easy to find by looking at the usage data in network setting. If you are not using IPC$ or bothering with cloud storage, then by all means kill network usage for the app in question.
Right now, I am looking into Tunnelbear, Samsung's video player, and the stock video player on TouchWiz devices. Both do some odd things but are manageable. Mostly because I know what to expect.
Tunnelbear is now hooked to auto run when on an unsecured network. So it leaves its network service on when not used. Plus registration may stay on after closing. Very messy for programming, even through one may see the app as well made. IMO registration should turn off with the app closing. As for its network service, it should only enable when the option to auto start is enabled. A simple foresight many programmers don't see until pointed out.
Here I don't program and know better... a true programmer should know the processes inside and out before writing a line of code. Maybe resorting back to assembly will brake such programming habbits, that are easy to make with tools to plug away with in programming technique. Yep I know how to program, but I am not a programmer! It's a job that does not peak my interests.
Notice the attached images... the CPU usage will fluctuate but the CPU speeds will hold at one core enabled and at 200Mhz on stock kernel. On custom, it could be down to 100Mhz and any number of active cores depending on the kernel tweaks.

Partial fix for tunnelbear
Since I touched on tunnelbear keeping active connections for registration and network service. I was able to keep network service from being an issue, by preventing the service from running. I also prevented the quicksettings tile service from running as well. Both are not required and for my usage tunnelbear does not work well as a full vpn outside of streaming and messaging, due to the lack of multiple connection limit. So even if I wanted to have tunnelbear auto connect when connecting to a public Hotspot, I would be unable to use the VPN the way i want to.
So far the only issue is the registration service sticking in background once tunnelbear is closed.

Latest vs Older apps
Again I was forced into doing a trial and error run of older app usage vs that of newer and latest app functionality.
Tunnelbear and BBCiplayer were knocked down, for two different reasons.
BBCiplayer had difficulty with downloads completing and clear playback, as it seemed below 720i standards. Had a older good copy in my tibackup backups. That fixed one issue. As for tunnelbear... there was way too many so called improvements that I did not use. Plus having the old and dated version cleared up network service loading, as it did not hook with detecting unsecured networks for VPN auto connection. As for registration being loaded and running, it seems to be a problem since v 100 or so, and all the older ones fail to connect now. At least the registration service will close it's connections when not in ise, unlike the newer versions.
There are many other apps I will not update because of such trouble. I rather have 100% functionality with an app, than to have a bug or two plague what I expect out of it. Plus I don't need all that Facebook, Twitter, and other social stuff tied into what I use. Actually a browser is all I need for social activity if I choose. Disconnecting your devoce from social functionality and syncing. Truely releases your device from the power being consumed by these unnecessary apps, even when they are not in use.
You could freeze them, but it is more of an Inconvenience than what it should be.
At least with a browser, once your done, it's is done with its connection and you did not need the use of a background service.

Idle utilization
I performed a cpu idle during normalization usage stat after tweaking my disabled services and frozen system apps.
The screen shot was done 12 minutes after wake up, screen always on and had just hit 99% on a full charge.

Constant Low Memory [N][all roms]

Hey xda-ers,
I have been plagued by this issue for quite some time and wanted to see if it was just me, or if others share my pain.
Since migrating to Nougat I have found that my phone starts to slow down and freeze after some usage. Typically after leaving some apps open.
The problem immediately goes away once i hit Clear All on the recents, thus I think it is a RAM issue.
In all kernerls or Roms I have tried the problem persists, even if selecting "Aggressive mode" for low memory killer.
I always thought that leaving apps open will not impact ram, as android "understands" theses are not being used (hence why all "ram managers" are just snake oil).
So is anyone else getting this slow down after a few hours of use?
Any tips/tricks to help with this?
TL;DR: how do i fix constant low memory on Nougat roms?

It must be a particular app/set of apps that would be causing this. I see from your signature that you are on Nitrogen OS, as am I. In my particular case, I have never seen more than 1.2GB RAM of the 1.8GB used, the usual average is more in the mid to high 800 Meg range. You could check for yourself in settings, under memory, the current usage is shown. There is a further sub menu in there that shows per app memory used. Check and see if you can identify the culprit.
P.S: I do use Greenify, maybe that keeps the RAM usage low? Maybe someone else can chime in with their usage as well.

Karan.S said:
It must be a particular app/set of apps that would be causing this. I see from your signature that you are on Nitrogen OS, as am I. In my particular case, I have never seen more than 1.2GB RAM of the 1.8GB used, the usual average is more in the mid to high 800 Meg range. You could check for yourself in settings, under memory, the current usage is shown. There is a further sub menu in there that shows per app memory used. Check and see if you can identify the culprit.
P.S: I do use Greenify, maybe that keeps the RAM usage low? Maybe someone else can chime in with their usage as well.
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Hi, thanks for the reply.
I also use Greenify, and when checking the app usage (which i have monitored for a few months), I see that OS uses around 1.2, and chrome and other apps around 100-200mb each.
However, it seems that the moment I have less than 400mb "free" it starts to glitch.
Also, issue persists even with Tesla Rom (which is what i moved to a few months ago).
Maybe this is just the limit of the N4 with newer apps...

For me the android OS is currently around the 350MB mark. Tap on Android OS and see what is using the memory. Maybe the cache is running high for you?

serious battery drain on Android 10

Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!

Not here...

Full charge at 9:00pm and by 6:00am I only see 3% drop, I don't call it a drain
(no root, latest Android Q update, location on, cell data on, bluetooth and NFC off)

Yes there is definitely higher drain on Android 10 overall.
Currently I am on AOSiP10 and getting 3-4% idle drain and about 2-3 SOT less than on AICP Pie. My friend on Stock 10 @ZeroInfinity has noticed a higher drain than Pie as well.
I'm in the process of figuring out what is causing the higher drain.

comp101inc said:
Is anyone having serious battery drain? If so is there a fix for it!!
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No mine is about the same as with Pie (I haven't noticed any difference ... apart from once when I ran it right down I only got about 8hrs of sot (screen on time whereas on pie I'd get about 9 but it wasn't scientific not sure if I had the exact same settings).
Is an app showing high battery usage (Also use hamburger menu to show full system usage which incl standby)(might even be worth also looking at memory usage for each app under developer settings, if nothing stands out under battery for some reason). If very high usage suddenly maybe an app conflict with latest update. Or possibly even a crypto miner or some other malware. You can also check battery usage when booted into safe mode so no third party apps run.

only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10

ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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Custom is always better than stock on this phone.
Wait for the AOSP ROMs to arrive and you will be able to easily get double that SOT time!

ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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I did notice somewhat higher drain on A10, but not too much to worry about. My SOT on a single charge is usually about 5+ hours. Full stock, rooted. I am using WiFi Automatic to disable WiFi when the phone is inactive, so that might be helping, not sure how much...

On AOSiP10 there is no wild battery drain.
My device sleeps like a baby.
My advice? Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!

CamoGeko said:
Stay off stock Android 10 if at all possible!
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Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.

ronFenomeno said:
only got around 2 to 3 hours sot after updating to Android 10
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something must be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)

kt-Froggy said:
Not trying to convince anybody, but I am quite happy on stock. I used to flash custom ROMs a lot, but there is always *something* that doesn't work properly. Could be camera, audio, bluetooth, calls, sensors, whatever... So, optimized stock always seems to work better for me. Especially considering that stock on PH-1 is essentially (no pun intended ) a clean Android, I see no reason to switch. But... To everyone their own.
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What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
Also, my phone was ported from Sprint to T-Mobile and I've only recently got a better grip on changing tower conditions with this APN guide from T-Mobile. I had redundant APNs that may have been slowing connection to changing conditions while in motion or changing towers. Support wasn't much help anytime I called. Vacationing in a rural area with limited and slow data had me looking for a better solution. Even better than before coming back home and surfing internet in a passenger car on the freeway. Deleting the redundant ones was key, I believe.
https://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-2090
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samep said:
What optimizations are you using with Android 10?
I'm getting similar results just using Magisk modules: FDE.AI (plus liboemcrypto disabler for on-demand apps and updates).
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Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...

kt-Froggy said:
Actually, same here - I am using FDE.AI as well. I also use WiFi Automatic to turn off WiFi when the phone sleeps (IMO, it was a dumb move to remove that setting from Android). I am also shutting down Internet access with NetGuard to the apps that have no business with it, and limiting or removing location access to most of the apps.
On my previous devices I had to get rid of the OEM and carrier bloat, but PH-1 is using basically a clean Android, making it much leaner...
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I haven't tried WiFi disabling in years (Juice Defender and profile apps) but I do limit apps' access to Internet with Adguard (unlocked licensed version).
I'll give the WiFi Automatic app a try and see how that goes. I have little use for WiFi outside of those saved networks that auto connect.
Thanks for the reply and suggestion.
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IronRoo said:
something muscat be wrong, maybe old app dicta restored or similar?
The following is fairly normal for me with web browsing & social media (no gaming), I have background scanning set to off for both wifi & Bluetooth but do have an always on VPN as you can see (that battery drain is from other apps using the VPN, not just the VPN)
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mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted

ronFenomeno said:
mine is just a bit weird on the battery usage. the Google play services is the highest usage on the battery but it just use running foreground for an hour. just want to clear the phone cache but it seems that it could not be cleared since my phone is not rooted
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If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & then go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
PS. You can boot to the recovery and wipe the whole cache partition from there

IronRoo said:
If you are sure it's play services you can just go to apps, find it & thin go to "storage & cache" and clear cache or if that doesn't work clear data. (you do not need to be rooted)
However I suspect it's more likely another app is the cause as some apps will use services like location that rely on Google play services which then shows high battryr use but it is these other apps that are actually the cause as they are requesting the service. If you can't work out which tureen on developer option and look under "running services" and "memory" watch hopefully will give you a clue.
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clearing data is the last method for me. if it is possible, i would not do it.
actually, the Google play services don't play to much, the battery just drain when the screen is on. however, i have tried to clear the cache of google play service before, it doesn't help.
there is an update today, just see whether it would improve it or not. would it be the issue of the battery indicator?