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[News] Leeco will probably start selling the Le Max 2 in the US on October 19th.

As it hasn't been posted yet:
http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/7/13207064/leeco-us-product-launch-leak-smartphones-tvs-vizio
So Leeco will start selling its products in the USA on October, 19th.
"Le Max2 will be available for $289 after a $60 discount, while the Le S3 appears to be a rebranded Le 2 that will sell for $169"
Hopefully this will boost sales and lead to more software development. At that price, the phone will undercut the popular Axon 7 and Oneplus 3.

beware phone fingerprint scanner do not work either from starting or after few days. 8 out of 10 devices are faulty fingerprint scanner. they are selling this faulty devices not only in india but also in china. everywhere all the users are complaining about the faulty hardware.
check the link below of their official Le forum where all Chinese users are complaining about the the faulty hardware.
https://translate.googleusercontent...1.html&usg=ALkJrhjBQQEbfOlaP5nkQ8joW-vkIH-gUA

Today is the 19th. Would love to get a copy of the Official USA rom. I know the beta has been floating around out there....
EDIT: USA Lineup has now been revealed on the LeEco USA website. No Le Max 2.
http://us.lemall.com/us/leeco_phone/index.html

Any rumours of the axon 8?

It's only a month from when last year the axon 7 was announced. Doing some Internet searching doesn't bring up anything as yet.
Does anyone know if we are to get an Axon 8 shorty?

@front firing speakers
Probably because it isn't gonna be called axon 8, but axon gigabit

front firing speakers said:
It's only a month from when last year the axon 7 was announced. Doing some Internet searching doesn't bring up anything as yet.
Does anyone know if we are to get an Axon 8 shorty?
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There was a prototype exhibition of a gigabit phone, but I'm not sure if this is really a flagship for this year. Most articles acknowledge that this is more of just a concept showing ZTE has the tech in development rather than a concrete flagship for this year. Currently it seems like ZTE has not announced anything new for the Axon line this year. Maybe it will be announced later? Or they're just going to focus on refining the Axon 7 for some time?

Nik2424 said:
@front firing speakers
Probably because it isn't gonna be called axon 8, but axon gigabit
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tupurl said:
There was a prototype exhibition of a gigabit phone, but I'm not sure if this is really a flagship for this year. Most articles acknowledge that this is more of just a concept showing ZTE has the tech in development rather than a concrete flagship for this year. Currently it seems like ZTE has not announced anything new for the Axon line this year. Maybe it will be announced later? Or they're just going to focus on refining the Axon 7 for some time?
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Besides they were clear that it was only a prototype and a specific model using this technology would be available until next year.

I think eventually will see successor guess within next 1-3 months it's reasonable time being.
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I'm sure we'll be hearing something very soon.
I won't be upgrading from my Axon 7 for at least another year, but when I do upgrade, I hope that ZTE puts up a fight for my money.

paatha13 said:
I think eventually will see successor guess within next 1-3 months it's reasonable time being.
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Valentyn_L said:
I'm sure we'll be hearing something very soon.
I won't be upgrading from my Axon 7 for at least another year, but when I do upgrade, I hope that ZTE puts up a fight for my money.
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I think that ZTE is not releasing anything this year, or at least not until the end of year. By now all the specs were leaked last year and May was the date to release the Axon 7, so I highly doubt they are working on something else, or they have it really hidden.
Another thing is that they are still putting all the effort into the Axon 7, which is a good sign that they plan to continue to have this device as the company's flagship for the moment.

That's what I thought and basis for my question. Do rumours yet looks like no phone

front firing speakers said:
That's what I thought and basis for my question. Do rumours yet looks like no phone
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Actually I just read somewhere, maybe on xda that when someone asked why the axon max(6gb ram 128gb storage version of axon 7) was no longer being sold and apparently the rep told them that they were working on a new phone that would be ready by the summer so they had stopped production of the axon max. I don't know how much weight that statement holds but definitely something to keep an eye out for.

Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
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paatha13 said:
Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
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* Especially since the OnePlus 3 hardware specs this last year were not even comparable to the ZTE Axon 7 -- no 1440p AMOLED, no award winning DAC, no front-facing speakers, no BMW-designed frame. That first spec -- 1440p -- is what separates the serious players from juveniles in my mind. I've had 1440p AMOLED since 2014, and I'm not downgrading back to 1080p. OnePlus 3T (end of year update) was better, but still no 1440p AMOLED.
Yes, I can see a difference. If you want 1080p, there's a 100 companies selling 5.5" 1080p generic slabs. Go get one -- just don't tell me there's no difference. All the major players -- LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Google, etc offer 1440p. Whereas every "budget" Chinse company offers 5.5" 1080p slabs. Dime a dozen as they say.
This year, allegedly OnePlus will finally offer 1440p AMOLED with their OnePlus 5, so we'll see.
* If ZTE had offered Qi wireless if the Axon 7, I would have bought 3 of them. Qi wireless is more important to me than "all metal". I put cases on my phones anyway. Put glass or ceramic back on the phone so we can have Qi wireless.
As for "improvements"? Besides Qi wireless, ZTE Axon 8 needs a BIGGER battery. 3250 mAh is not enough. I have a 3900 mAh battery on my 5.2" 1440p AMOLED Moto XT1225. This phone needs AT LEAST 4,000 mAh. Nobody is begging for credit card thin phones. Everybody wants a BIGGER battery.
Also, add backlighting to the capacitive buttons -- and space them wider apart.
* ZTE Axon 8 is probably going to be delayed from last year's Axon 7 launch date due to the shortage of Snapdragon 835 chips. That's why LG went with the Snapdragon 821 -- because otherwise they would be waiting until summer to launch their phone.
ZTE Axon 8 will be one of the five phones I'm watching in the 2nd half of 2017, to replace my Moto XT1225:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/general/2017-phones-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950

I'm planning on buying a new smartphone Q4 2017.
I'm hoping there will be a ZTE Axon 8, so I can then weigh up against OnePlus 4/5 and Huawei Honor 9.
My understanding is that the ZTE Axon 7 is an excellent phone, so things are looking good.
For those of you not looking to upgrade from your Axon 7s, let hope the Axon 9 will be a beast (if you plan to upgrade after 24 month period).

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* Especially since the OnePlus hardware specs this last year were not even comparable -- no 1440p AMOLED, no award winning DAC, no front-facing speakers, no BMW-designed frame. That first spec -- 1440p -- is what separates the serious players from juveniles in my mind. I've had 1440p AMOLED since 2014, and I'm not downgrading back to 1080p.
All the major players -- LG, Samsung, Motorola, HTC, Sony, Huawei, Google, etc offer 1440p. Whereas every "budget" Chinse company offers 5.5" 1080p slabs. Dime a dozen as they say.
This year, allegedly OnePlus will finally offer 1440p AMOLED, so we'll see.
* If ZTE had offered Qi wireless if the Axon 7, I would have bought 3 of them. Qi wireless is more important to me than "all metal". I put cases on my phones anyway.
* ZTE Axon 8 is probably going to be delayed from last year's Axon 7 launch date due to the shortage of Snapdragon 835 chips. That's why LG went with the Snapdragon 821 -- because otherwise they would be waiting until summer to launch their phone.
ZTE Axon 8 will be one of the five phones I'm watching in the 2nd half of 2017, to replace my Moto XT1225:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-maxx/general/2017-phones-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950
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Me too have top priority Axon 8 but meanwhile I will try Galaxy S8 while keeping current Axon 7.
As for what I want is AOD feature,improved camera performance(low light and video recording witch struggling right now) and if ZTE keep current form factor I would prefer bottom navigation button to be backlight
Also LED notification support more color than just red or green as today.
Of course keeping all the positive deliver today.
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Actually the the new zte device is zte axon 8 a2018 zte releases in may as always

musicman5844 said:
Actually the the new zte device is zte axon 8 a2018 zte releases in may as always
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That's the Axon 7S, but maybe they will launch it as Axon 8 on international market.
Let's see, because is not kind of big improvement over the actual Axon 7.

Galaxo60 said:
That's the Axon 7S, but maybe they will launch it as Axon 8 on international market.
Let's see, because is not kind of big improvement over the actual Axon 7.
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Actually read again a2018 , https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...8-gets-certified-zte-axon-8-flagship.html/amp

musicman5844 said:
Actually read again a2018 , https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.an...8-gets-certified-zte-axon-8-flagship.html/amp
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Actually, read again:
"This handset is extremely similar to the ZTE Axon 7s which was announced quite recently"
As I said, it seems they just renamed it for global market, and wouldn't be the first time a company does this. Is sad, because I was expecting kind of better design and larger battery, because everything else is good enough already. Still I appreciate they kept the speakers.

paatha13 said:
Since will see oneplus 5 within 2 months guess ZTE wouldn't want to miss the party and let onleplus to play by its own on that 400-450 price segment category.
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ZTE Axon 9. Likely to be announced in October. Yes, they are skipping over 8 and going straight to 9..
All my information is from an XDA member who participated in a focus group in Germany, and he relayed what ZTE managers told him.
See this page (page 13):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...s-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13
Specifically this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73686747&postcount=121

Galaxo60 said:
Actually, read again:
"This handset is extremely similar to the ZTE Axon 7s which was announced quite recently"
As I said, it seems they just renamed it for global market, and wouldn't be the first time a company does this. Is sad, because I was expecting kind of better design and larger battery, because everything else is good enough already. Still I appreciate they kept the speakers.
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They've omitted stereo speakers on Axon7s.?

ChazzMatt said:
ZTE Axon 9. To be announced in October. Yes, they are skipping over 8 and going straight to 9..
All my information is from an XDA member who participated in a focus group in Germany, and he relayed what ZTE managers told him.
See this page (page 13):
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mo...s-to-replace-2014-quark-droid-t3597950/page13
Specifically this post:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73686747&postcount=121
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Yes I’ve read this at V30 thread.
Well we shall see next month.
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If I buy Pro 3, will get current software

I have a Pro 3 and thinking of buying another for backup and testing. Maybe try flashing 7.0 or 8.0 ROM.
Originally, when I bought Pro 3 in November 2016, there were issues fixed by at least 2 OA Updates.
IF I buy one now, is software up to date?
Know that Le Eco US website down.
After a year, my current Pro 3 is still working great. Yes, it would have been great to have upgraded software, but apps seem current and works fine.
Bought it for $249, so very happy. Saw new on Amazon for $199.
Tempted to buy.
Any current information you can give me would be appreciated.

bramgoodwin said:
I have a Pro 3 and thinking of buying another for backup and testing. Maybe try flashing 7.0 or 8.0 ROM.
Originally, when I bought Pro 3 in November 2016, there were issues fixed by at least 2 OA Updates.
IF I buy one now, is software up to date?
Know that Le Eco US website down.
After a year, my current Pro 3 is still working great. Yes, it would have been great to have upgraded software, but apps seem current and works fine.
Bought it for $249, so very happy. Saw new on Amazon for $199.
Tempted to buy.
Any current information you can give me would be appreciated.
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Still stuck on marshmallow. But we have a couple of nougat roms that are really good and stable

No, since LeEco is pretty much dead now, in North America and China. However, new Le phones are being released which is hilarious to me. A phone with 6 gigs of RAM with a Snapdragon 821 stuck on Marshmallow. lmao
Wait for Black Friday. You might get one for under $150.

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No, since LeEco is pretty much dead now, in North America and China. However, new Le phones are being released which is hilarious to me. A phone with 6 gigs of RAM with a Snapdragon 821 stuck on Marshmallow. lmao
Wait for Black Friday. You might get one for under $150.
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How hard is it to learn to flash one of the ROM'S. I am technically experienced, but never done it, so don't want to brick phone.
Any hand holding around to help?
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I think the le pro 3 is the best phone for flashing. Just tick OEM unlock in dev options. Then open the bootloader with ADB and flash twrp. After this you are ready to flash what you want. In comparsion to a Samsung or Sony its pretty easy.

Worthy Successor to Nexus 5X?

OK so the N5X is 3 years old now... any new phones out or coming out that are similar in price (budget-mid price range), and will have similar custom ROM support?
Just curious, as my N5X is still going strong, but there seems to be a roadblock on getting Android Pie to be fully functional in the few attempts I see (encryption?)
I've been keeping an eye on the new Nokia #.1 devices, and other similar specc'd phones.
Thanks.

I think OnePlus 5T or OnePlus 6 is a true worthy successor

meciu99 said:
I think OnePlus 5T or OnePlus 6 is a true worthy successor
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Perhaps in function, but they cost quite a bit more.

meciu99 said:
I think OnePlus 5T or OnePlus 6 is a true worthy successor
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I replaced my Nexus 5x with an Essential PH-1 on Prime day. This is the first non Nexus device I ever owned but it's very much a spiritual successor to the Nexus lineup. I am waiting for it to go back on sale again so I can pick one up for my mom.
I would consider something like the OnePlus/Oppo if it were available on Sprint but unfortunately my device selection is limited being on this provider.

btux81 said:
I replaced my Nexus 5x with an Essential PH-1 on Prime day. This is the first non Nexus device I ever owned but it's very much a spiritual successor to the Nexus lineup. I am waiting for it to go back on sale again so I can pick one up for my mom.
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Those are still pretty spendy at $400+. I'm looking for the $300 or less range, same as the 5X was. I really can't see spending that much for a phone, as I'm not quite as hooked into it as some seem to be, I just need a nice reliable device I can customize easily like the 5X.

Nokia 7+ or Xiaomi Mi A2. Both Android One.

Nokia 7.1 (processor isn’t very good though), Nokia 7.1 Plus (awesome if launches globally near China price) or Nokia 8.1 (TBA).

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Nokia 7.1 (processor isn’t very good though), Nokia 7.1 Plus (awesome if launches globally near China price) or Nokia 8.1 (TBA).
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Yeah I was looking at the Nokia phones as well. I'm in the US, so want to purchase them here so they have a warranty valid in the US.

Any more thoughts on this topic as the holiday sales are upon us?

@g90814: try Cypher OS in the meantime

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@g90814: try Cypher OS in the meantime
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I did... a little quirky, kept locking up, other little issues. I don't think Pie will be viable for the N5X in the long run.
Right now I'm running latest Oreo stock but rooted with Magisk and Franco kernel.
I'm asking about new phones, not ways to keep my old phone running.
Thanks.

@g90814, you're welcome

The Pixel 1 and Pixel 2 prices are about 300-500 bucks now. And that is very good.

vdhero said:
The Pixel 1 and Pixel 2 prices are about 300-500 bucks now. And that is very good.
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Older phones. I'm looking for more current ones.

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Older phones. I'm looking for more current ones.
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you can try the Xiaomi Mi 8 SE or The Pocophone F1 the Poco has a flagship specs with snapdragon 845 but its camera is not pretty good because Xiaomi just nerf the Poco's camera in the stock camera so you have to install a google camera. Mi 8 SE has snapdragon 710 which is quite rare and according to some people, it's a Snapdragon 845 with a weaker GPU.

vdhero said:
you can try the Xiaomi Mi 8 SE or The Pocophone F1 the Poco has a flagship specs with snapdragon 845 but its camera is not pretty good because Xiaomi just nerf the Poco's camera in the stock camera so you have to install a google camera. Mi 8 SE has snapdragon 710 which is quite rare and according to some people, it's a Snapdragon 845 with a weaker GPU.
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Xiaomi Mi 8 SE not available in US as of now unless you want it shipped from China.
Pocophone is an option, but a little expensive for my tastes ($345 for 64GB model) and not available with US warranty (yet).

g90814 said:
Xiaomi Mi 8 SE not available in US as of now unless you want it shipped from China.
Pocophone is an option, but a little expensive for my tastes ($345 for 64GB model) and not available with US warranty (yet).
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From everything I found, at that price point, the Pocophone is the best one, anything cheaper is way worse and not many things a little bit more expensive like at $400 or $500 are still not as good as it is. You don't really have to worry about warranty if you buy on Amazon though, if Xiaomi don't give you warranty, Amazon will as well as the resellers so don't worry about that. Bellow that 300 bucks, you may also get some other Xiaomi phones with good specs but most of them are using snapdragon 6xx which is not quite good.

Essential phone is truly the lowest price replacement of good quality.
I wouldn't recommend that pocophone for anyone in America because it doesn't work on Verizon or Sprint.
The pixel phones are all decent, but they have major hardware issues and look ugly.
LG makes the best looking and some of the most feature rich phones, but can't ever update software. (V30 is just an awesome phone form factor tho)
If I had to recommend a few replacements these would be it:
Galaxy s8 or newer Samsung flagships (TouchWiz is better than stock Android in 2018 amazingly)
Essential phone
LG v30*
Oneplus 6t (No other OnePlus phones though because the rest are beat by Galaxy s8/s9 and the essential phone at every price point)
*For v30 you must be a regular headphone jack user. That quad dac is amazing. Makes a $10 pair of headphones sound like $150, and regular car speakers sound like a full on audio upgrade. Being an LG there is next to no software support and no dev support, but the audio almost makes up for it.
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Other option to consider however....
Downgrade to upgrade.
The 5x sucks you'll be happier with a Galaxy note 4, note 3, or a Nexus 6 as they are all faster and better phones in 2018 due to having 3gb of ram.
Plus they have great dev support and in the note devices extended batteries that can last a long time. Going from a Nexus 5x to any flagship with 3gb or more of ram in the last 5 years is really a massive upgrade. That 1gb of ram is the difference between usable and unusable.

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Downgrade to upgrade.
The 5x sucks you'll be happier with a Galaxy note 4, note 3, or a Nexus 6 as they are all faster and better phones in 2018 due to having 3gb of ram.
Plus they have great dev support and in the note devices extended batteries that can last a long time. Going from a Nexus 5x to any flagship with 3gb or more of ram in the last 5 years is really a massive upgrade. That 1gb of ram is the difference between usable and unusable.
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Thanks for all that, Nascar. Lot's to consider, but the 'downgrade to upgrade' is a valid point. I was eyeing some refurb Galaxy s# phones, maybe I'll go for that.

I have bought a OnePlus 6 with the discount from Black Friday (and that will be valid until Christmas, I think). It is exactly the same price as the Nexus 5x 32gb originally.: $429,00. In this sense I think it is a proper successor. It is a little big, though.
And I disagree with the post above. The S8 is a great phone, but it is worse than the OnePlus 6 in most aspects but the camera.

Why such a big price increase for the 8 Pro this year?

I'm a big OnePlus fan myself, but I have to question the big price hike for the 8 pro this year, even compared to last years OnePlus 7 Pro.
OnePlus made their name by selling near flagship spec'd phones, but minus some features, and had a near vanilla stock Android UI, and all that for a super budget affordable price. I bought the OnePlus One for $299, and LOVED that phone, at that time flagships like the latest iPhone 6 Plus and Samsung Galaxy were selling for $749.
I get it, that super cheap price wasn't going to last forever with OnePlus, and I expected some creep up in pricing each model, but F me, not $1,000+ now. Sorry but screw that price for a OnePlus phone, or heck any phone for that matter. I think a fair price for the OnePlus 8 Pro should be like in the $699 / $749 range.
Some of their best models and pricing at launch;
OnePlus One was $299/$349 @ launch
OnePlus 3T was $439 @ launch
OnePlus 5T was $499 @ launch
OnePlus 6T was $549 @ launch
OnePlus 7 Pro was $669 @ launch
OnePlus 8 Pro is currently $900+
So it seems each year OnePlus increased the price anywhere from $50 to $100 annually. Lets do the middle which would be $75 per year, so 6 years later that's approx. $450, add that to the $300 price of the original OnePlus One, and that would put the OnePlus 8 Pro @ approx. $750, which to me is fair, not bad. But $1,000 NO WAY.
My question, the 7 Pro was $670 @ launch, now the 8 Pro is $900 @ launch, that's a huge jump up in price between the 7P and 8P, by far their biggest leap in pricing between model years. Because OnePlus have been on an annual trend of $50 to $100 price increases each year, then all of a sudden a massive $225+ increase from last year.

theres alot of things added that upped the price of the phone, 5g , chipset , display , water rating , wireless charge, refresh rate and more. if you think they can just lower the price of the phone whats the point of having a businses if theyre is no profit. at least i can say even they have this profit margin on it its not like iphones price range.

It's all in the marketing...
We always saw OnePlus as offering Flagship killers to compete with the big companies, Apple & Samsung. What better way to gain a following than offer phones that compete with the latest flagships and are priced starkly lower?
OnePlus has just been introduced to the market, relative to the big boy brands. But now they are moving into actually competing with the flagships, it's no longer Apple & Samsung, now OnePlus will be among them. The OnePLus 8 Pro is the company's very first true flagship. It offers things that every OnePlus device to date didn't; Wireless Charging, IP65 water & dust resistance rating, 120hz display, a massive camera upgrade, and of course 5G.
Simply put, OnePlus is moving into its new home, into true flagship territory.

The main thing is the inclusion of the 5G radio on all the models. Qualcomm broke out the radio portion of the chipset into a discrete unit, further adding to the price.

Waterproof
Wireless charging
5G (main reason, separate chip)
Screen
CPU / GPU
It'll stop now, this is their go to price. Won't go much higher.

It's a top of the line phone at the moment with all the latest hi-tech features that brings it over the other top brands and phones.

IP68 and some other certifications for selling officially at west. Because in india and china phone starts from 700USD. With same specs. And oneplus is expanded their business around world this year too much. Thats why they need to collect some money from west this year. And if you are located in US buying oneplus is just idiotical thing. You can get S20+ with snapdragon+mmwave support. But in EU we cannot get snapdragon S20+. Thats why it's sells in here.

I was a user of the Oneplus One and I bought it for € 300 + shipping its 64GB version. It was my everyday phone for 3 years until I sold it and bought myself a sagit. At that time I saw the tendency to raise prices, the price I think I remember increasing by about € 30 and so on, without technological justification. For implanting an nfc chip (value of € 0.0001) the prices increased by € 30 or more. For every euro or dollar that increases in production, they multiply it in an exaggerated way. I calculate that the profit margins on the phones can be 500% or more. In some cases they are creating unnecessary needs to raise prices more and more. They are looking for our limit and want to considerably separate the high, medium and low ranges. The financing of cars, telephones ... etc is being promoted. This matter is long to explain, but basically we users have to plant ourselves before it is too late, I would not like that in 5 or 10 years I will have to mortgage myself to buy a phone just as they are doing with cars. Our best weapon is not to spend more than € 400 and custom ROMs so that the durability of our phone is more than 5 years. Sales have to go down, we have to buy cheaper phones and keep our old phones as best we can. It's the best we can do to make this irreversible (although I think it already is). Long live custom ROMs and their developers, heroes.