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So, Ars Technica just published its review of the Galaxy S7, which goes super in-depth. And in it, some things aren't surprising: the intl 8890 spanks the US 820 models, but here's the one that's surprising.
Not surprising
Rather surprising
Very surprising
So not only does the Exynos have noticeably better benchmark performance, it also lasts longer on a charge. And while the E8890 was tested in the UK labs, while the US labs tested the S820 version, the difference should not be that big. And with the early reports of the S820's GPU being noticeably better than the E8890's proven wrong in that same review (it is slightly better, but with differences of only 1 or 2 fps), it begs the question why Samsung didn't go all Exynos again, especially since it home-grows these chips, it theoretically should be cheaper for them to just use these. I know Samsung has a partnership or something with Qualcomm, but when your product is better than theirs in every way, doesn't it just make more sense to go with the better one?
I'm happy Australia gets exynos
sigh. typical.
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The thing is, and always seems to be, that a quick search on Google for Snapdragon VS Exynos S7 performance shows plenty of legitimate tests that swing either way in favor of one or the other depending on which test(s) you believe. The above illustrated (in the OP) is just one of the tests. Many will show results in favor of the Snapdragon. Generally speaking, the pattern seems to support the Exynos being slightly better at intense gaming while the Snapdragon seems to be slightly better at day-to-day tasks.
That being said, I think it's ridiculous to split hairs when it comes to slight performance differences that 99.5% of most users will never notice. It's not a topic worth arguing about (though many still will). It just comes down to whose test do you want to believe over the next guys. Debating such small differences can be fun, but it won't make one variety of S7 any better than the other at the end of the day.
Here is just one of the many examples that show results a bit different than in the OP:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s7s-snapdragon-820-vs-exynos-8890-preliminary-showdown-2334571
Again, for every site that shows one shine above the other there is another site that will show it differently. Either way, either processor, the S7 is a great phone (if your not a developer in the US).
Real world use there is no difference
Would love the exynos version
Performance: Similar
Batterylife: Exynos way ahead
It's obvious after reading the battery life threads, Exynos version is much better.
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Performance: Similar
Batterylife: Exynos way ahead
It's obvious after reading the battery life threads, Exynos version is much better.
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Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
hung2900 said:
Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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It's not a totally fair fight, S7 always has slight edge over S7 edge. I don't have any theory to support this, but I've read a lot of S7/edge benchmark and S7 always have 300->1k point higher than S7 edge
Still, 6 or 7 second lower in some game loading is a noticeable margin. Also, in this video, he only tested app loading time so it's not the end of the story. He said that he's gonna upload a new video about real FPS performance then, we shall see if Snapdragon can make a come back.
And one reason why Samsung use Snapdragon variant in US is due to LTE network spec that only Snapdragon chip support or sth. Also can't remember where I read that )
hung2900 said:
Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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I have no clue what he is saying in that clip, is he running an SD-card on either phone and do he have any apps moved to those SD-cards?
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I have no clue what he is saying in that clip, is he running an SD-card on either phone and do he have an apps moved to those SD-cards?
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He didn't say anything about that. He just install 20 same games and apps on both devices, and then use same 3G network carrier (which is Mobifone - Vietnam) and then speed test their loading time. I don't think he used SD card at all. Most of the time he just said that he though Snapdragon version should be faster but apparently it's not. Also, some app, like Dictionary and Chicken invader, the S7 Exynos doesn't restart the app, just normal resume, while S7 Edge SD820 need to restart the app. That's all about it.
wow, sd820 performance in that video is horrible.
Anyone know if Samsung pay works In the US on the exynos galaxy s7
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Anyone know if Samsung pay works In the US on the exynos galaxy s7
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You should ask that in the S7 Help section rather than take this thread off-topic.
hung2900 said:
Performance: Nope, Exynos version is simply much better. Forget about the benchmark. Look at the real world test.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI7jkyRwa8A
(S7 - Exynos, S7E - S820)
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That is literally one of the worst attempts at a comparison video I have ever watched (partially watched anyway). If people are going to do real world tests...they need to do them correctly.
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That is literally one of the worst attempts at a comparison video I have ever watched (partially watched anyway). If people are going to do real world tests...they need to do them correctly.
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Sounds like you're losing sleep over it. I couldn't resist.
Exynos-powered Galaxy S7 appears to be faster than its Snapdragon 820 counterpart
If you take the two side-by-side comparisons uploaded to YouTube into account, it appears that the Exynos 8890 variant of the Galaxy S7 is actually significantly more powerful than the Snapdragon 820-driven Galaxy S7. Not only does this model boot and open applications faster but it also renders video at a significantly faster rate.
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Side by side cool, but in real world use there is no difference. The exynos has better battery life
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Must hurt to see the device you own doing crappy and so very easy to throw out "O thats not a valid comparison".
Have you been under a rock ? Many many many have reported, lag, heat, jittery slo mo, crappy battery life, crappy audio for the subpar built in Qualcomm DAC. with the SD820 S7 implementation.
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Are you 5 years old? Comparing a foriegn S7 against an American S7 Edge...knowing the Edge has more things running in the background due to "Edge" specific functions, as well as the modem limitations in a foriegn land and that is a good comparison?
Go troll elsewhere.
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Are you 5 years old? Comparing a foriegn S7 against an American S7 Edge...knowing the Edge has more things running in the background due to "Edge" specific functions, as well as the modem limitations in a foriegn land and that is a good comparison?
Go troll elsewhere.
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Why are you so salty?
The thing is both devices are Int versions (G9350 and G930F), so your argument about "modem limitation" is not valid.
And about the edge features, here is the evidence that it is negligible.
https://youtu.be/28FjDWmLli8
Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
First off, I have the Exynos version. While the S8 is my first Android phone, I have never had any issues whatsoever with Touchwiz. I've maybe once had an app crash, never had random reboots and the stutters are only present in apps such as the Play Store where content is loaded as you browse. Performance is absolutely amazing. I always hestitated going Android because of the issues you are describing, but I absolutely don't regret switching over. The UI is as fluid as it can be, games are smooth, battery is fine (I'm not a heavy user but I can use my phone for 2 days before having to charge). Debloating the S8 would mostly be getting rid of Bixby and carrier apps. Other than that there aren't too many things to remove imo. From what I've read, many people that complain about Touchwiz being unstable are people that mess with Package diablers while not knowing properly what to disable. This causes weird issues, stutter, lag and whatnot. I can't tell you whether it used to be bad of my own experience cause I've never really used a Samsung phone before. Imo the S8 is one of the best devices around, for a reasonable price. If future Samsung phones will continue to be as good, I will upgrade without a second thought.
ImbaWind said:
Hi all Samsung Galaxy S8 users, I'm currently going to purchase a new device as my daily driver. However, I'm wondering if I should purchase Oneplus 5 or S8.
Oneplus 5 is using OOS which is a slightly modified AOSP rom which I will surely love but the S8's screen is really gorgeous and more 2017-ish.
I'm curious about the long-term performance of S8, since S8 is using TouchWiz which is a heavily skinned version of Android and is notorious for its instability such as force close on apps/random reboots/random stutters and so on as well as performance drawback.
I'm looking for a device which is capable of gaming, fluid UI and last me a day with mixed usage. Since there's no LOS available for the S8 yet, I will have to debloat the ROM if I purchased it so I'm looking forward to anyone's comments regarding the performance improvement(if there's any) after debloating the S8.
So for those who have used S8 for months, what's your thoughts? Do you regret buying this phone? Will you buy an Oneplus 5(any other phone) instead if you were given another chance?
**My location's S8 will be an Exynos version.
**Currently using Oneplus One
Thanks in advanced for every comment.
**** If there is any Chinese users here, I wonder how's the 王者荣耀 (Chinese version of Mobile Legend) runs on this phone?
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
You can get s8 almost same price as op5 .so many deals going on. I'm enjoying my s8 plus avgrat battery after using 4 month it's going strong never had profirmance issue it's smooth as buttery .
Best camera best screen best look. Speaker is loud. I recommend buying s8 plus but if it's big for u s8 is good too
Ok, short answer, we have a OnePlus 3 and the person using it is not gonna buy a future release. The phone is fine and all that, but he isn't impressed or satisfied by it either.
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Purchased both of them beginning of this month.
OP5 came earlier, so I had some time to use it as a daily phone. Very nice and speedy phone. Everything looked very good, and I thought it would be excellent successor to my previous Oneplus x, which I liked more than a year long (actually still like it).
Then came the Samsung S8. It was not so easy to switch from vanilla Android regarding overall settings , but at the end I liked the Samsung add-ons in Settings, sicne it's really very well organized.
To sum up the reason why I sold OP5 and am now very happy with S8:
S8 is more compact, especially the width of the phone makes it easier to handle one handed.
The Samsung screen is absolutely fantastic, and in direct sunlight waaay better then OP5.
Despite not having two cameras, photos on the S8 are much better, and video recording in low light is incomparable. S8 has OIS!
This phone has a lot more options (features), which I found really useful - like: Bluetooth 5 (nice when you have more then one device connected i.e. external speaker and
BT headset). HDR video support and a lot of options to set the color temperature of the display. Water resistance and wireless charging are also important to me.
There are however some things I needed to change to be satisfied with S8, and luckily it was quite easy. I replaced the phone dialer and contacts applications with stock one from Google.
And - definitely a drawback in S8 compared to OP5 is the screen width, so you will have less information on the screen regarding one line, but more of them are present since the display is much taller.
Regarding pricing, I bought the S8 (new) on ebay for 535EUR and OP5 costs 499EUR. so there is not much difference at this moment.
My 2cents.
Appreciate every comment, thanks!
jonny908 said:
I do recommend S8. I'm coming from LG v10 which was 5.7 size. S8 is 5.8 but it is smaller due to nearly frame less screen. Now I'm mad at myself I didn't buy S8+...
Regarding the OP5. I've heard it's not that much of improvement of OP3T. Also, the camera is not as good as in Samsung. Just watch comparison videos or photos.
My vote: go for S8+. S8 feels like 5.3 inch. I think s8+ will be like 5.7. And trust me, watching movies on this gorgeous display is worth the extra money. You won't be disappointed. I've heard that Samsung lowered S8 and S8+ prices to attract the new Iphone lovers.
Cheers!
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Thanks for your reply! I'd prefer smaller one tho, looks like easier to navigate through the screen.
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I own a S8+ for months and in my opinion you should buy a OP5! Less money and a really nice comunity support with custom roms and kernels, .... thats all for less money. You´ll get the fastet device on earth at this moment. All things Samsung sells are to expensive for that money they want... Some of my friends own a OP5 and I really enjoy to play with that phones. Mine and their are rootet and debloated
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Thanks for your comment! In my country, if I want to buy the top spec OP5 from official retailer vs S8, it's only about 100 USD difference. And yeah, OP5 community support is better but I'd rather stick to one stable rom than flashing possibly bugged open betas etc. So what's your experience with S8? Do you enjoy using it? How it differs from OP5 in terms of performance after debloating/custom rom etc?
I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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I'd get it again. If I had more time, I might have figured out how to get an Exynos model, but I also probably wouldn't have noticed the difference. I'm happy with my pre-order 256 GB card.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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Exynos is always the better one, in every Samsung variant. Also I think Exynos version of S8 was the first to be rooted, Snap had some issues.
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So you think Exynos version is better over the SD version?
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I've always heard it's a bit snappier. You also usually have more options for stable root if you want to go that direction.
It's a little bit faster and the bootloader can be opend easy!
I was also on the same boat, bought s8 never looked back.
No lags at all, superb battery life, no heating issues, basically everything i feared that i would see are gone. But i bought this even more for the resale value.
When oneplus decides to take things seriously i will spend my money on them, till then samsung all the way up.
If i were to decide again now however i would seriously consider lg v30.
My Note 4, which was repaired some months ago for the dreaded EMMC error, is really starting to feel old now. I've had the thing for three years and I've grown tired of Marshmallow and Samsung's prior heavyweight Touchwiz. I recently purchased a Tab S3 and am liking the newer experience so I'm thinking it's time to replace my phone.
Honestly, the 8 series (S8, S8+, Note 8) doesn't appeal to me very much. I do like a physical home button, and the super-tall screens in the 8 series seem, well, off. Thus my interest in the S7 Edge. Nougat is available now, so that's good, and supposedly Oreo will arrive eventually. I'm a T-Mobile customer. My research indicates the S7 Edge supports all necessary LTE bands. B&H is selling new SM-G935F (international variant) S7 Edges for $500.
So I'm wondering if it's reasonable to buy an S7 Edge here in the early days of 2018, nearly two years after the phone was released?
Why don't you consider the A8 2018. I know it doesn't have a home button, but it feels more like older Galaxy phones.
I have G935f, it's still a beast with little to no lag.
Well it depends on what you want.
I personally think the S7 edge trumps the S8 in every way that I care abuot
Pretty much the same processor and therefore speed.
has the sexy curved screen
Bigger battery and more battery life
Pretty much the same UI, can make it exactly the same by using an S8 port if you wish. Just simply using the S8 launcher is enough for me.
physical button
front mounted fingerprint sensor (that also isnt always on and wasting power, although this can be modded)
Many well established ROMS, kernels, mods etc. (come on, you're on XDA )
more affordable
Oreo is still coming for s7 edge
Some cons to think about
even though the camera hardware is the same, the software is different and the s8 has better night time photos
alot of developers are updating to the 8 series and so they either no longer develop for s7 edge or they cant test with their own devices - development is slowing down for S7 edge
S8 will be updated by samsung for longer and have continuous development for longer
@SteveRiley
$500 is too much imo
What do I want? Well, I've managed to tabletize a fair amount of stuff I used to do on a phone: browsing web sites, reading books, watching movies, managing finances, shopping online. I use the phone for -- shockingly -- a lot of phone calls (daily interactions with clients), texting, listening to music, and spur-of-the-moment email replies. The camera is irrelevant to me: I'm simply not one who takes photos. But a big battery is certainly a plus. And yeah, my early XDA days were filled with rooting and ROMing; lately, though, I've not found that to be as necessary as before.
The A series did catch my eye. IIRC, it has a lower resolution screen. 1920x1080 is just low enough to be annoying even if I'm not staring at the thing all day.
Yeah, $500 is a bit much for a two-year-old phone. Perhaps I'm a good candidate for checking Swappa.
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What do I want? Well, I've managed to tabletize a fair amount of stuff I used to do on a phone: browsing web sites, reading books, watching movies, managing finances, shopping online. I use the phone for -- shockingly -- a lot of phone calls (daily interactions with clients), texting, listening to music, and spur-of-the-moment email replies. The camera is irrelevant to me: I'm simply not one who takes photos. But a big battery is certainly a plus. And yeah, my early XDA days were filled with rooting and ROMing; lately, though, I've not found that to be as necessary as before.
The A series did catch my eye. IIRC, it has a lower resolution screen. 1920x1080 is just low enough to be annoying even if I'm not staring at the thing all day.
Yeah, $500 is a bit much for a two-year-old phone. Perhaps I'm a good candidate for checking Swappa.
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If you use your phone for functions that dont require Exynos Octa, you dont have much interest in the development scene and you dont want to pay that much for an old model, then the S7 edge is probably not for you (although I pretty much see it as an affordable S8). The S7 edge also defaults at 1920x1080 as samsung and a few tests I read about has shown that people pretty much cant tell the difference at the normal distance we hold our phones (apparently its for VR where the phone is literally on your face).
I say get The A series and save $$$, have essentially the same pixel density and miss no functions that you describe.
Also on a side note, they definitely have opened up the functions and features a bit more, but once I went to custom ROMs, I can't go back haha too much goodies in the custom ROMs for me. I think I lasted 6 weeks before I couldnt handle it anymore.
At the moment s7e is best value for money, with good hardware, camera, functions and battery. I recommend
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The S7 edge also defaults at 1920x1080
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Hm, that doesn't seem to align with what I've read elsewhere:
* 5.5 in (140 mm)
* 210 ppcm (534 ppi)
* Quad HD Super AMOLED
* 2560×1440 pixel resolution (16:9 aspect ratio)
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Hm, that doesn't seem to align with what I've read elsewhere:
* 5.5 in (140 mm)
* 210 ppcm (534 ppi)
* Quad HD Super AMOLED
* 2560×1440 pixel resolution (16:9 aspect ratio)
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It has the pixels to do so, but on Nougat, the default resolution is 1920x1080, optionally scalable up to 2560×1440. They claim that this is to save battery - people say conflicting things about whether it does significantly save battery or not. Tests have shown that people can't really tell the difference at normal distances. I can't really. The 2560×1440 resolution option has been said to be more useful for Samsung VR which the S7 edge is capable of.
I mean ,will it run pubg smoothly without getting too hot and sot.does a lot of dev still stay on s7?
I won't reccomend getting an s7 edge now. The phone is really old. Yes a few devs support this device. It can run pubg on low to medium settings but it gets quire warm to the touch and the battery isn't as good compared to other devices out right now.
P.s: I have a S7 edge.
UsmaniMustafa said:
I won't reccomend getting an s7 edge now. The phone is really old. Yes a few devs support this device. It can run pubg on low to medium settings but it gets quire warm to the touch and the battery isn't as good compared to other devices out right now.
P.s: I have a S7 edge.
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what this above said.... buy latest phone. never think of buying older then a year model..
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what this above said.... buy latest phone. never think of buying older then a year model..
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I recently bought a used s7 edge and have to say I'm 100% happy - why buy a newer, expensive model when the older ones cost a fraction and you can treat/use it accordingly? The s7 has about the same cam as s8/s9, and the 12mp sensor is just fine.
The phone is great for normal usage, though it doesn get warmer on heavy cpu/gpu usage - I dunno about the newer models. The s7 certainly has enough punch for everything I can imagine I'd use on a tiny screen.
The main reason for me buying it is a very active dev scene, with easy installation and regular security updates for multiple 3rd party roms like Lineage: https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development
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I recently bought a used s7 edge and have to say I'm 100% happy - why buy a newer, expensive model when the older ones cost a fraction and you can treat/use it accordingly? The s7 has about the same cam as s8/s9, and the 12mp sensor is just fine.
The phone is great for normal usage, though it doesn get warmer on heavy cpu/gpu usage - I dunno about the newer models. The s7 certainly has enough punch for everything I can imagine I'd use on a tiny screen.
The main reason for me buying it is a very active dev scene, with easy installation and regular security updates for multiple 3rd party roms like Lineage: https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development
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I rooted the phone bec of lineage. As i was using lineage aokp os on s4 mini, it was so smooth. So i thought it would be like using windows xp from Pentium 4 to core i5. But sadly that wasn't the case, i hardly see any need going to lineage os, as its alot buggy and unusable for me compare to stock. So when i said new phone, they have better finger prints, better face scanning and better battery too. They wont have edge or samsung health but i hardly use those. My sot just for watching youtube indoor with 40% brightness is 7hours plus and out is 5hr plus. Dont get me wrong, i love my s7 edge. And i will be using it till it dies.
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I recently bought a used s7 edge and have to say I'm 100% happy - why buy a newer, expensive model when the older ones cost a fraction and you can treat/use it accordingly? The s7 has about the same cam as s8/s9, and the 12mp sensor is just fine.
The phone is great for normal usage, though it doesn get warmer on heavy cpu/gpu usage - I dunno about the newer models. The s7 certainly has enough punch for everything I can imagine I'd use on a tiny screen.
The main reason for me buying it is a very active dev scene, with easy installation and regular security updates for multiple 3rd party roms like Lineage: https://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/development
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Agree. Save your money, buy a used device for less cost. The S7E is a fine device. Unless you plan to interface with the space station while watching movies, chatting up your buddies and playing games all the while, then yes, you might want a newer phone.
Would you say that the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Samsung Galaxy S20 FE exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Good speed, but not as fast as the regular S20. I don't do any heavy gaming, but some apps open slightly slower with the FE. Reduced RAM?
Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed
Using a Dual-SIM Exynos FE 6/128: G780F/DS.
Speed is great so far, but this is my first modern "flagship" phone though, so can't really compare it to anything.
Screen on time is not great though. 4.5 hours after a week of use.
I have no issues thus far with speed
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Just bought it and quite disappointed with its battery and speed
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?
very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.
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very slow. I'm so disappointed. my note 10 was faster. despite the 120hz (which feels incredible) the inconsistency gives me literal actual nausea. the frame rate stays at 120hz for 0.2-0.5s at first during scrolling then drops down to 30-20fps... when I set it to 60hz it's obviously slower but i prefer it because it just feels more consistent. it's nicer on the eyes.. very sad and dissapointing.
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Do you have Exynos or Snapdragon?
It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon. My brother was the one who actually got it and said it but the package doesn't say 5g. The model number is G870f/ds. And had 128gb of storage and 8gb of ram
The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time. It still lags but it's usable now. It has the good old samsung/xiaomi (I never used a non samsung/xiaomi android phone since other phones are not available here) stuttering. When I scroll there's like 3-4 frames that daty stuck for 200-100ms. It's very noticable but nothing like the mess it was at first (I had literal nausea using it)
Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software
AmyTheBun said:
It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
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Yes.
AmyTheBun said:
The major horrible lag went away after letting the phone sit on the table for some time. It was very new at the time.
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If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Installing everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
AmyTheBun said:
Is the snapdragon that much better really btw?
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AmyTheBun said:
Overall the smoothness is nowhere near a 3 year old iphone x with 80% battery health (my brother uses his a ton.) But the higher refresh rate is sooo nice. It's hard to say which I prefer but the iphone feels better honestly
It's just sad to see a great 120hz panel ruined slightly by bad software
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Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).
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Yes.
If you've just installed all the apps you're using on your new phone, of course it's going to take a few hours to days for everything to settle down, as well as a few other restarts. Then it only makes sense to comment on his behavior.
Plugging in everything you had on your previous phone at the same time is not the best course of action. By gradually adding one application at a time, you can more easily detect one that has a serious problem, for example, with the A11, or with the phone itself.
However, if you are lagging without installing other apps, something is completely wrong.
Yes.
Strange. For me, my new Samsung (Snapdragon 865, 6/128GB) is the smoothest phone I've ever had. My previous phone was Asus ZenFone 6 (Snapdragon 855, 6/128GB).
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I'm not sure what you mean by plugging but I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos ( it's been a day and a restart yesterday and honestly still. It lags but it's usable. I'll upload a video on youtube. If you're interested reply so I'll get a notification about it (it's gonna take a bit to upload)
Have you ever used a new iphone? Iphone x or newer. My iphone X was sooo smooth in comparison. Not to mention the far lower latency (input delay.) Overall the phone felt nicer on my eyes and brain to use despite the 60hz. But it wasn't as "fluid" as this one. But the consistency made up for it. And not to mention the thoughtful detailed animations that follow your fingers acceleration and speed etc.
I've been spoiled by an iphone x before and I'm quite sensitive to stutter tbh!
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this is the s20 fe. now that I see it in slow motion it's embarrassingly awful. I'm uploading a slow motion of proper 120hz without stutter too.
> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds
_jis_ said:
> I installed cpu z and it's actually exynos
Then this wasn't true and you only have the 4G version (SM-G780F):
> It's 5g so I think it's snapdragon
> The model number is G870f/ds
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Yeah sadly the person at the store either made a mistake or lied to my brother. I wasn't there to confirm
But the video I attached shows the issues. It's outright embarrassing that samsung is this bad still. It takes actual skill to make such a fast processor this slow.
If you check my channel you can see what proper 120hz looks like in comparison. I was too lazy to attach the videos
activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.
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activate your developer options @AmyTheBun by going to settings / about phone / software ...and tap on the build number 7 times in a row. this gives you an extra menu called developer options. inside that, near the top you'll see running services.
click running services after the phones has become slow and see what's using CPU and ram.
your phone performance is not normal. if it's not something like an old out of date app causing problems I'd take that phone back for a refund.
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smart pass was on the top. nothing special was using too many resources.
the video was in slow-motion btw.
oh and mine is exynos... we have no other choice where I live. not even a single snapdragon model!
I had the 5g version of the fe, it was complete **** so much it was slow. I instantly sold it back. Lots of stuttering, my old s9 was feeling faster (in Android). I then tried the 4g version of the s20 fe (exynos) and was surprised by how snappy it was. The menus where opening quickly, swaping between apps was a breeze. I was impressed.
So there sure is a rat under the carpet with Samsung, maybe software problems, maybe cpu/hardware/chipset problems, maybe both.
I have the 5G/Snapdragon version (recent firmware) and it's fast enough. The 120 Hz screen is smooth, all apps running smoothly including those with heavy JS graphics, which were garbage on my previous phone, A6.