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Bing now has Voice Nav!

I already posted this in the Tmobile US HD2 section but just in case you're not looking there... Bing has added Voice Nav with turn by turn directions!
http://www.bing.com/community/blogs...05/11/updated-bing-app-for-windows-phone.aspx
http://pocketnow.com/software-1/bing-for-windows-mobile-now-has-real-navigation-features
It appears to work really well for folks in the US... other countries ymmv for now. This is a great FREE app for Windows Mobile! Now I don't have to buy CoPilot Live!!!!!

Yes yes yes!!!!

thanks this is great

GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...

eenbox said:
GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
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Never hurts to have a backup, and it does look very nice....
Its about time thougt that MS sorted our this US only BS, you cant compete if you dont actually have a working product.

sadly still only support for US, UK, Italy, France Still I use GMaps when travelling, it's just easier to handly then iGo and it has phone numbers etc. matching your destination.

d3l1 said:
sadly still only support for US, UK, Italy, France
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The UK version is probably the worst app you can get for the HD2. This new US version looks a lot better and works to a certain degree in the UK but navigation doesn't work outside US and the voice search is next to useless as I don't say say "have a nice day y'all" on the end of each search (needs an American accent probably)

djingonthenet said:
The UK version is probably the worst app you can get for the HD2. This new US version looks a lot better and works to a certain degree in the UK but navigation doesn't work outside US and the voice search is next to useless as I don't say say "have a nice day y'all" on the end of each search (needs an American accent probably)
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Lol! Hopefully MS will continue to make improvements and add regions to the app... I'm very, very impressed with the new version and the voice input works very well for me... (I don't end my sentences with "have a nice day y'all" either , maybe the version you downloaded was corrupted, hehe).
have a nice day y'all!

eenbox said:
GARMIN XT and any not DATA plan dependent navigation is and will always be better than Bings, GoogleMaps, AndroidNavis, etc...
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I agree, but... A) this is free! B) I already own a GPS but no longer have to carry an additional piece of consumer electronics along with me. C) I have the (unlimited) data plan anyway so no downside for me in using it...
ymmv of course.

For those who can't find the download link it's m.bing.com/download

something is moving in Froyo development

Hope this will be of interest for someone.
I'm Italian, and as other italian owners of nexus one with the beta of Froyo, today we found some news
First, no we can just speak for writing sms and email, when keeping pressed the search button still italian speech recognition desn't work, same when searching the web.
Second, finally now we have the google navigator, we can input the destination just speaking and works fine, we can also search the web for something and launch the navigator.
This is of course a great signal, because in my opinion if Google will be able to offer all the services that are already available for the USA customers in the others countries, then Apple will have some problem selling his next product.
Why spent 600 and more euros for a phone, that is of course well assembled and with good materials, while with 499€ you can get a phone that has much more features? The free navigator is a real killer features that we really missed.
Ciao!

Same for Germany

That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.

Yup.
Canadians now have access to the full set of map features. Took long enough, but I am certainly grateful!

I'm actually surprised we (UK) got it before Canada.
Enjoy it though, it's great!

Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.

Clarkster said:
That isn't FroYo development. It is just the latest update to Google Maps. Added 11 more countries for navigation and more languages for voice.
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Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice

velenox said:
Yes and no.
They updated maps and navigation now that are going to release Froyo.
As I said they are now offering all the goodies of android also in other countries.
It's a good sign, to me looks like that with Froyo they want release a great product and now they can.
As for the navigation I'v tryied it a bit and to me looks very nice
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incorrect.
This has nothing to do with Froyo. One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates

khaytsus said:
Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Does this mean I shouldn't use the Navigation software?

khaytsus said:
Now more countries can follow asinine directions from Google Nav. Enjoy!
Last weekend I gave Google Nav a try... It wanted me to drive 5 miles down a country road and drive through a gated community rather than go down the main road 50 feet away and drive half a mile to my destination. Also one time instructed me to go down a 1 way the wrong way even though Google Maps shows it clearly as 1 way (ie: it knew!)
It's a nice program, and can't beat the price, but it comes with a large grain of salt.
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Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.

walie said:
incorrect.
One of my phones is running android 1.6 and it got the updates
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Incorrect as well.
Your phone running android 1.6 did not get the updates. Google simply modified their servers to allow Navigation in your region/country.
It has nothing to with updating the Maps version on your phone. If you are in a non nav region, you can see this simply by loading a map with directions in the USA and NAV will be available.
But you are right about is not being Froyo specific.

blisk said:
Ahh google maps has *some* issues but I think you either have an old version, didn't look at the alternative routes, or marked something like no tolls. Google navigation has been awesome for me, the only thing its been wrong on is the location of a couple of stores... one was on the wrong side of the street, the other was in the next shopping center. It'll get better as you can report stuff like that, which I did, and the more that use it the smaller those problems will happen. I've used it for a lot of stores though so I think you might want to give it another try with different locations and check your settings. Also make sure you updated it from the marketplace and aren't using the stock maps.
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Yes, Google Maps is the latest, 4.2.0.. And I haven't checked any options at all in the options, I actually didn't see any when I quickly looked. Only reason I used it actually was I was using a geocaching program which popped it up for navigating to a geocache so I let it do its thing.
FYI, this isn't a case of "geocache in the middle of nowhere" in case you're familiar with it, navigation to them can be tricky or wind up in the wrong spot. Nothing like that, I was actually leaving one place and driving to another one a few miles away and it was telling me to drive way out of the way down a narrow road then left into a closed gated community.
Later I was driving downtown and it suggested I turn into a 1 way street...

mariolopezjr said:
Does this mean I shouldn't use the Navigation software?
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I would say use it, with common sense. Just like any navigational software.

How's the navigation compared to other competitions such as Nokia's Ovi Maps and Bing Maps?

perhaps I have not expressed my idea very well. I thought that before releasing Froyo, Google wanted to make all services already available in USA, also in other countries. This make sense, because in Europe we missed this features, voice search, navigation, etcetera...
So why release Froyo without offering all the goodies also in other countries?
If Froyo will be released tomorrow I'll be very happy to enjoy the new software, but honestly I'm happy for the navigator totally integrated with the phone.

Guys, please post in appropriate threads instead of starting a new one.
Google Maps Navigation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698539
Speculation:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696736
Let's help keep the forum clean and organized, which benefits everyone.
Thanks!

Google Now - spoken responses

So I've seen these videos online where Google Now answers pretty much any questions you throw at it (youtube vid 40+ questions or something).
The issue is all my google now seems to do when I ask it something is simply do a google search and show the results as if I had typed it =/, no cards, no voice just a plain old google search.
Is this normal for the UK version or something?
Is there some region issue where only US customers get proper google now functionality?
Not that this would surprise me based on the situation with magazines, play movies and play music.

No problems here...
Just wondering, it sounds like you are blaming Google for the lack of magazines/music/films.
You do know it's not them, it's the content publishers right? I know it's fashionable to hate Google, because Apple said so, but really......

Brad2607 said:
So I've seen these videos online where Google Now answers pretty much any questions you throw at it (youtube vid 40+ questions or something).
The issue is all my google now seems to do when I ask it something is simply do a google search and show the results as if I had typed it =/, no cards, no voice just a plain old google search.
Is this normal for the UK version or something?
Is there some region issue where only US customers get proper google now functionality?
Not that this would surprise me based on the situation with magazines, play movies and play music.
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Check and see in Google now settings and make sure you are set for English Us.
Sent from my Nexus 7

It doesn't speak responses for everything. For example, it'll tell you who the president is but not who the current state senator. Try the weather, sports or ask the humidity etc.

CrazyPeter said:
No problems here...
Just wondering, it sounds like you are blaming Google for the lack of magazines/music/films.
You do know it's not them, it's the content publishers right? I know it's fashionable to hate Google, because Apple said so, but really......
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Oh no I don't blame Google and no way hate them, I love Google and Android lol. Now apple that's another thing them, I hate lol.
OK thanks I changed language to English US hopefully that will help just seemed strange the way it only seemed to doing regular Google searches.
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I've had to ask mine a question 2 or 3 times for a card to turn up, rather than a Google search. (It does understand me each time as well)

If you use Google Chrome and sign into it with your Google account. Anything you type and search in Chrome is available for GNow to use. Really helps with cards and responding.

I dunno, mine is pretty spot on. I load it up, say "Google", it listens, converts to text really accurately, and gives me spot on answers. The only thing I hear her say is "Calling".
Yea I remember it speaking more then it does.

Is there a way to teach it "Call home" and use GrooveIP to dial? All I get is "this device can not perform that action". Doesn't seem to respond to "Open GrooveIP"... thought it opened apps.

tcat007 said:
Is there a way to teach it "Call home" and use GrooveIP to dial? All I get is "this device can not perform that action". Doesn't seem to respond to "Open GrooveIP"... thought it opened apps.
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I don't think it opens apps... tho that should be a standard android feature before too long, if we think about it.
-Ara

I can have this with language set to English UK.
Make sure you have g-now enabled, open g-now>settings>Google now> On(top right)
Try asking it something simple like 'what's the whether?'
Also note that currently it does not seem to work with UK sports.

CrazyPeter said:
No problems here...
Just wondering, it sounds like you are blaming Google for the lack of magazines/music/films.
You do know it's not them, it's the content publishers right? I know it's fashionable to hate Google, because Apple said so, but really......
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Magazines and music is not available outside the US. Just books and movies for us.......
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Western Style Keyboard

Hi,
I have a Dual Sim N9002 version and others, like me, have been figuring out what we can and can't do with our version. We've been using this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46614873
We have phones aimed at the Chinese market, which means Chinese bloatware, keyboard and other annoyances (to westerners). My biggest annoyance is with the keyboard really. I have found a solution but can't help feeling it's a bit of a long workaround.
Ideally i would like the standard Samsung keyboard that comes with USA or Europen version (I have seen it in Youtube vids). Instead I am using Google keyboard and Stylus Beta. It's not hard to switch between those two (space bar hold) but I get the impression the Samsung one would be more convenient.
I have seen the app on play store, which seems to show the western version, but when I try to install it I can't because it's 'installed'. Well yeh it is, but it's the Samsung Chinese IME. It looks different but the most annoying thing is it doesn't add spaces between words (cos it's supposed to be charactercharactercharacter like their written language. The western version look very much like Stylus Beta, which I think is great but might be limited.
Any ideas on what i can do?

Blizzaa said:
Hi,
I have a Dual Sim N9002 version and others, like me, have been figuring out what we can and can't do with our version. We've been using this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46614873
We have phones aimed at the Chinese market, which means Chinese bloatware, keyboard and other annoyances (to westerners). My biggest annoyance is with the keyboard really. I have found a solution but can't help feeling it's a bit of a long workaround.
Ideally i would like the standard Samsung keyboard that comes with USA or Europen version (I have seen it in Youtube vids). Instead I am using Google keyboard and Stylus Beta. It's not hard to switch between those two (space bar hold) but I get the impression the Samsung one would be more convenient.
I have seen the app on play store, which seems to show the western version, but when I try to install it I can't because it's 'installed'. Well yeh it is, but it's the Samsung Chinese IME. It looks different but the most annoying thing is it doesn't add spaces between words (cos it's supposed to be charactercharactercharacter like their written language. The western version look very much like Stylus Beta, which I think is great but might be limited.
Any ideas on what i can do?
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Could get SwiftKey :silly:

jaythenut said:
Could get SwiftKey :silly:
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Swiftkey has handwriting mode?

Blizzaa said:
Swiftkey has handwriting mode?
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Here you go https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.resourcemanager

jaythenut said:
Here you go https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.visionobjects.resourcemanager
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I did say "I have seen the app on play store, which seems to show the western version, but when I try to install it I can't because it's 'installed'. " but here re some pictures to prove it.

Blizzaa said:
I did say "I have seen the app on play store, which seems to show the western version, but when I try to install it I can't because it's 'installed'. " but here re some pictures to prove it.
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http://db.tt/PIQoxHOT try this one but can't guarantee it going to work

Chinese malware / spyware app built-in in the system of my s10+

Just realized that the built-in Storage Analysis function in Device Care settings is powered by 360 Security.
As far as i know this is an app written by the Chinese and is highly probably comtaining hidden spyware that send confidential data to the Chinese government.
Any chance we can disable it, so that even clicking into that menu won't do nothing? I rather not use that funciton but to be safe. I was trying to use adhell to disable something but couldn't identify which system app is it.

moonset said:
Just realized that the built-in Storage Analysis function in Device Care settings is powered by 360 Security.
As far as i know this is an app written by the Chinese and is highly probably comtaining hidden spyware that send confidential data to the Chinese government.
Any chance we can disable it, so that even clicking into that menu won't do nothing? I rather not use that funciton but to be safe. I was trying to use adhell to disable something but couldn't identify which system app is it.
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Hey there,
is there any hard evidence, that it sends package data to chinese-based servers, other than those mentioned regular update requests/database updates? AdGuard firewall log or something would be helpful. :good:

more2come said:
Hey there,
is there any hard evidence, that it sends package data to chinese-based servers, other than those mentioned regular update requests/database updates? AdGuard firewall log or something would be helpful. :good:
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thanks, i will try adguard.
Generally I don't trust any software/apps from PRC, it wouldn't harm.

moonset said:
thanks, i will try adguard.
Generally I don't trust any software/apps from PRC, it wouldn't harm.
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One shouldt always be sceptical when it comes to personal data. There have been incedents with data extraction in the past, older Xiaomi smartphones running dated firmwares were collecting personal data and sent it back home to chinese servers.
On the other hand, the amount of data Google collects from each and every Android device is quite terrifying. And I don't think that Google is the most trustworthy company in the world...

more2come said:
One shouldt always be sceptical when it comes to personal data. There have been incedents with data extraction in the past, older Xiaomi smartphones running dated firmwares were collecting personal data and sent it back home to chinese servers.
On the other hand, the amount of data Google collects from each and every Android device is quite terrifying. And I don't think that Google is the most trustworthy company in the world...
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oh yes, i believe Google is collecting my data as much as I believe in I am a child of my mom.
But it comes down to reputatuon and which one is more harmful. Google is a commercial cooperate, and PRC? lol
I am using android anyway, so no matter what google has got my data, why share another copy with the Chinese?

But Samsung isn't a Chinese company, so why would they do this? I could understand if this was Huawei or Xiaomi.

Slash8915 said:
But Samsung isn't a Chinese company, so why would they do this? I could understand if this was Huawei or Xiaomi.
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Probably because Vietnam isn't the home of a security software company. ? China... Vietnam, you're probably splitting hairs anyway.
BTW, where was your phone manufactured. In the US they use McAfee which is probably my most unfavorite next to Norton.

OP drank the Kool-Aid trump is serving at his house party.

Slash8915 said:
But Samsung isn't a Chinese company, so why would they do this? I could understand if this was Huawei or Xiaomi.
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this is also my question... why did they use codes/apps that were written by a chinese company anyway...

fear mongering?

moonset said:
this is also my question... why did they use codes/apps that were written by a chinese company anyway...
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I guess the main reason is that there's no other good alternative in the market. Maybe there's better option but will you pay for that?
The hilarious thing in this post is that the "blind-love" to google, which makes my day My 2 cents are that in S10 there are more parts comes from Chinese venders than ever, so if you are afraid of that, maybe the best way is not use a mobile at all.

moonset said:
Just realized that the built-in Storage Analysis function in Device Care settings is powered by 360 Security.
As far as i know this is an app written by the Chinese and is highly probably comtaining hidden spyware that send confidential data to the Chinese government.
Any chance we can disable it, so that even clicking into that menu won't do nothing? I rather not use that funciton but to be safe. I was trying to use adhell to disable something but couldn't identify which system app is it.
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ah ah ah .. I don't know from where you're from but as far I know, the WORST and BIGGEST spy are the usa : do I need to remind you about julien assange, chelsea mannings and many more ? Or the echelon program and so many we aren't even aware of ? (not to mention data collecting/selling by facebook/apple/google...) (I'm also not speaking of the stinky ****ty messy smelly bad **** they're doing all around the world, wars, geo politic business/manipulation just for the sake of them being able to keep on goin' in the good 'ol american way of life...)

charlene17 said:
ah ah ah .. I don't know from where you're from but as far I know, the WORST and BIGGEST spy are the usa : do I need to remind you about julien assange, chelsea mannings and many more ? Or the echelon program and so many we aren't even aware of ? (not to mention data collecting/selling by facebook/apple/google...) (I'm also not speaking of the stinky ****ty messy smelly bad **** they're doing all around the world, wars, geo politic business/manipulation just for the sake of them being able to keep on goin' in the good 'ol american way of life...)
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Thanks for a post that is almost 100% BS and factually wrong. Julian Assange was Australian and he was a fugitive from a British arrest warrant. Chelsea Manning leaked intelligence documents and as far as I know wasn't involved in cyber crime. Where your hatred of the good 'ol American way of life originates I don't have a clue but apparently it didn't originate in school.

you guys might not know much about china and privacy in china, so just think steal personal data is a joke, as a guy who live in Hong Kong, i can tell you this is much more scary than you though, just like the huawei 5G in US now, many years ago, people in HK already know china company will steal data , but US just realise this recently...

charlene17 said:
ah ah ah .. I don't know from where you're from but as far I know, the WORST and BIGGEST spy are the usa : do I need to remind you about julien assange, chelsea mannings and many more ? Or the echelon program and so many we aren't even aware of ? (not to mention data collecting/selling by facebook/apple/google...) (I'm also not speaking of the stinky ****ty messy smelly bad **** they're doing all around the world, wars, geo politic business/manipulation just for the sake of them being able to keep on goin' in the good 'ol american way of life...)
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what you said about USA might be true but at least they have freedom of speech.
Do you know in China certain words / phrases which speak the truth about PRC (such as 4th June 1989) or Xi Jinping's nickname, are filtered and monitored on EVERYBODY's phone and EVERY apps, so that you cannot even send those words out and police officers could just turn up at your door to arrest you.
Also, i havent seen any partnership between organizations like facebook and google with the US government... but Huawei, QQ (360 security), Xiaomi?? HAHAHAHAHA

chya83 said:
I guess the main reason is that there's no other good alternative in the market. Maybe there's better option but will you pay for that?
The hilarious thing in this post is that the "blind-love" to google, which makes my day My 2 cents are that in S10 there are more parts comes from Chinese venders than ever, so if you are afraid of that, maybe the best way is not use a mobile at all.
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there is no blind-love to google, maybe just blind-hate to Chinese companies.
i cannot live without a mobile, so i pick the "better" option.

A bit like the call screening function Hiya on the devices and also another call screening option on T Mobiles end that one cannot disable. They all steal and share the data.
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About the most misinformed, xenophobic thread I've had the misfortune to read on Xda in a long time. Keep it up guys, it's a good look.

kurosawa79 said:
About the most misinformed, xenophobic thread I've had the misfortune to read on Xda in a long time. Keep it up guys, it's a good look.
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LOL, that's what happens when kids get phones.

I'm no longer using a smart phone because of this Chinese software in my s10+. I'm switching back to my brick phone