Chinese malware / spyware app built-in in the system of my s10+ - Samsung Galaxy S10+ Questions & Answers

Just realized that the built-in Storage Analysis function in Device Care settings is powered by 360 Security.
As far as i know this is an app written by the Chinese and is highly probably comtaining hidden spyware that send confidential data to the Chinese government.
Any chance we can disable it, so that even clicking into that menu won't do nothing? I rather not use that funciton but to be safe. I was trying to use adhell to disable something but couldn't identify which system app is it.

moonset said:
Just realized that the built-in Storage Analysis function in Device Care settings is powered by 360 Security.
As far as i know this is an app written by the Chinese and is highly probably comtaining hidden spyware that send confidential data to the Chinese government.
Any chance we can disable it, so that even clicking into that menu won't do nothing? I rather not use that funciton but to be safe. I was trying to use adhell to disable something but couldn't identify which system app is it.
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Hey there,
is there any hard evidence, that it sends package data to chinese-based servers, other than those mentioned regular update requests/database updates? AdGuard firewall log or something would be helpful. :good:

more2come said:
Hey there,
is there any hard evidence, that it sends package data to chinese-based servers, other than those mentioned regular update requests/database updates? AdGuard firewall log or something would be helpful. :good:
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thanks, i will try adguard.
Generally I don't trust any software/apps from PRC, it wouldn't harm.

moonset said:
thanks, i will try adguard.
Generally I don't trust any software/apps from PRC, it wouldn't harm.
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One shouldt always be sceptical when it comes to personal data. There have been incedents with data extraction in the past, older Xiaomi smartphones running dated firmwares were collecting personal data and sent it back home to chinese servers.
On the other hand, the amount of data Google collects from each and every Android device is quite terrifying. And I don't think that Google is the most trustworthy company in the world...

more2come said:
One shouldt always be sceptical when it comes to personal data. There have been incedents with data extraction in the past, older Xiaomi smartphones running dated firmwares were collecting personal data and sent it back home to chinese servers.
On the other hand, the amount of data Google collects from each and every Android device is quite terrifying. And I don't think that Google is the most trustworthy company in the world...
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oh yes, i believe Google is collecting my data as much as I believe in I am a child of my mom.
But it comes down to reputatuon and which one is more harmful. Google is a commercial cooperate, and PRC? lol
I am using android anyway, so no matter what google has got my data, why share another copy with the Chinese?

But Samsung isn't a Chinese company, so why would they do this? I could understand if this was Huawei or Xiaomi.

Slash8915 said:
But Samsung isn't a Chinese company, so why would they do this? I could understand if this was Huawei or Xiaomi.
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Probably because Vietnam isn't the home of a security software company. ? China... Vietnam, you're probably splitting hairs anyway.
BTW, where was your phone manufactured. In the US they use McAfee which is probably my most unfavorite next to Norton.

OP drank the Kool-Aid trump is serving at his house party.

Slash8915 said:
But Samsung isn't a Chinese company, so why would they do this? I could understand if this was Huawei or Xiaomi.
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this is also my question... why did they use codes/apps that were written by a chinese company anyway...

fear mongering?

moonset said:
this is also my question... why did they use codes/apps that were written by a chinese company anyway...
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I guess the main reason is that there's no other good alternative in the market. Maybe there's better option but will you pay for that?
The hilarious thing in this post is that the "blind-love" to google, which makes my day My 2 cents are that in S10 there are more parts comes from Chinese venders than ever, so if you are afraid of that, maybe the best way is not use a mobile at all.

moonset said:
Just realized that the built-in Storage Analysis function in Device Care settings is powered by 360 Security.
As far as i know this is an app written by the Chinese and is highly probably comtaining hidden spyware that send confidential data to the Chinese government.
Any chance we can disable it, so that even clicking into that menu won't do nothing? I rather not use that funciton but to be safe. I was trying to use adhell to disable something but couldn't identify which system app is it.
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ah ah ah .. I don't know from where you're from but as far I know, the WORST and BIGGEST spy are the usa : do I need to remind you about julien assange, chelsea mannings and many more ? Or the echelon program and so many we aren't even aware of ? (not to mention data collecting/selling by facebook/apple/google...) (I'm also not speaking of the stinky ****ty messy smelly bad **** they're doing all around the world, wars, geo politic business/manipulation just for the sake of them being able to keep on goin' in the good 'ol american way of life...)

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ah ah ah .. I don't know from where you're from but as far I know, the WORST and BIGGEST spy are the usa : do I need to remind you about julien assange, chelsea mannings and many more ? Or the echelon program and so many we aren't even aware of ? (not to mention data collecting/selling by facebook/apple/google...) (I'm also not speaking of the stinky ****ty messy smelly bad **** they're doing all around the world, wars, geo politic business/manipulation just for the sake of them being able to keep on goin' in the good 'ol american way of life...)
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Thanks for a post that is almost 100% BS and factually wrong. Julian Assange was Australian and he was a fugitive from a British arrest warrant. Chelsea Manning leaked intelligence documents and as far as I know wasn't involved in cyber crime. Where your hatred of the good 'ol American way of life originates I don't have a clue but apparently it didn't originate in school.

you guys might not know much about china and privacy in china, so just think steal personal data is a joke, as a guy who live in Hong Kong, i can tell you this is much more scary than you though, just like the huawei 5G in US now, many years ago, people in HK already know china company will steal data , but US just realise this recently...

charlene17 said:
ah ah ah .. I don't know from where you're from but as far I know, the WORST and BIGGEST spy are the usa : do I need to remind you about julien assange, chelsea mannings and many more ? Or the echelon program and so many we aren't even aware of ? (not to mention data collecting/selling by facebook/apple/google...) (I'm also not speaking of the stinky ****ty messy smelly bad **** they're doing all around the world, wars, geo politic business/manipulation just for the sake of them being able to keep on goin' in the good 'ol american way of life...)
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what you said about USA might be true but at least they have freedom of speech.
Do you know in China certain words / phrases which speak the truth about PRC (such as 4th June 1989) or Xi Jinping's nickname, are filtered and monitored on EVERYBODY's phone and EVERY apps, so that you cannot even send those words out and police officers could just turn up at your door to arrest you.
Also, i havent seen any partnership between organizations like facebook and google with the US government... but Huawei, QQ (360 security), Xiaomi?? HAHAHAHAHA

chya83 said:
I guess the main reason is that there's no other good alternative in the market. Maybe there's better option but will you pay for that?
The hilarious thing in this post is that the "blind-love" to google, which makes my day My 2 cents are that in S10 there are more parts comes from Chinese venders than ever, so if you are afraid of that, maybe the best way is not use a mobile at all.
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there is no blind-love to google, maybe just blind-hate to Chinese companies.
i cannot live without a mobile, so i pick the "better" option.

A bit like the call screening function Hiya on the devices and also another call screening option on T Mobiles end that one cannot disable. They all steal and share the data.
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About the most misinformed, xenophobic thread I've had the misfortune to read on Xda in a long time. Keep it up guys, it's a good look.

kurosawa79 said:
About the most misinformed, xenophobic thread I've had the misfortune to read on Xda in a long time. Keep it up guys, it's a good look.
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LOL, that's what happens when kids get phones.

I'm no longer using a smart phone because of this Chinese software in my s10+. I'm switching back to my brick phone

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Checking for updates (way I do it)

I thought it was common sense, but my buddy with a G1 was like "I didn't know you could do that!?"
OK... so... Go to MarketPlace, Menu key--My Downloads.... if it says installed, you're all good. If it says Install and is a program you HAVE installed? Click it. Will overwrite the old version automatically.
That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
neoobs said:
That is one way.... but a new app on the market it makes it one step easier. Install aTrackDog... I used the way you described before this came out... it makes your life soo much easier.
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Yeah, have heard it doesn't update that fast?
There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
jashsu said:
There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Oh wow.. thanks! That's even worse!
Some apps (Twitdroid is a good example) alerts you if there's a new update; and most apps have contact details for the developer, so maybe drop them an email and ask for some auto update code to be added into your favourite apps? Bummer though, you still have to go into the market to update them.
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There are some reasons not to use aTrack Dog. I'm manually updating my apps for now. Maybe Google will refine the Market app with an update feature later.
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Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
neoobs said:
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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True, I suppose it is a matter of personal preference. Since I only have a half dozen apps installed on my G1, it's rather trivial to just check the download list. I balance that against having yet another app installed, not to mention having my app installation habits data-mined by aTrackdog.
neoobs said:
Good point but then again... I personally want to know about others beta's, I think aTrackDog should do something thou... make it so all apps are defaulted to not update.
Either way I don't see any real reasons to not use it except that you should know it may show a beta version. The updates are fast usually everytime I open it there is at least one program on there.
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I am not a developer but can see a potential for an exploit on this maybe? Sending out info isn't ever really a good idea. Even if it's set to only send out this and that data, I have seen exploits take advantage of less.
Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
neoobs said:
Both valid points, but then again look at the stuff I can't uninstall LOL that can send out just as much info. Everything is a risk, and honestly maybe application mining my G1 is a good thing, might lead to more big name developers wasting money to make quality apps for cheap/free. Never know might make MS want to make an office suite... or better yet... openoffice doing it.
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
aTrackDog work nice
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Yeah I wouldn't really hold my breath on OpenOffice for Android. Aside from the fact that most desktop apps have to be completely retooled to function in a mobile context, i'm sure Sun isn't too happy about Google brewing up Dalvik based on Java (which quite directly competes with J2ME). Dataviz is already working on an Android version of DocsToGo.
Of course if Google were to put more of their engineers on Android/mobile development, maybe we could see Google Docs for Android. Let's hope those Christmas Bonus Dreams lead to more apps Googlers make in their 20%.
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Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
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Isn't openoffice made publically? (not the source but the actual development is by the general public) wouldn't that mean if enough got an android they could do it? LOL
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Actually it is an open source project. However project leaders have very broad discretion to guide the direction a project takes. A good example would be the Android Open Source Project.
And I bust up over the G1 for all Google employees. But then again that article made it sound like every employee normally gets 20,000 for Christmas *cough*bull*cough* I bet only the high ups got anywhere close to that and probably the lowers got 100 dollars and maybe some free software or something.
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Yeah the average Googler received a $1000 holiday bonus last year.
wow 1000 dollar bonus... that is really good... but I understand why that is cut in half this year especially with the way the economy is.

[NEWS] Pandora Receives Subpoena in Industy Wide Inquiry

US federal prosecutors have launched a criminal investigation into suspected privacy lapses in the “apps” that run on Apple and Google smartphones, according to the maker of one of the most popular mobile applications.
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sounds interesting but I don't want to register to read the article..
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sounds interesting but I don't want to register to read the article..
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I didn't have to register to read it. Sorry about that.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/04/federal-prosecutors-investigating-pandora-other-smartphone-apps/
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703806304576242923804770968.html?mod=e2tw
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I didn't have to register to read it. Sorry about that.
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Np! Just saying. I did find it on engadget later that day. This will be interesting for the mobile phone industry for sure.
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While I hate to see Pandora be the target of this, it's still a good thing. On ANY PC the uncontrolled and sometimes (on phones) unknown transmission of personal and location data would be outrageous and flagged immediately as a virus by any AV program. I understand that they need to make revenue from these free apps somehow but at what cost? Not to mention most paid apps still transmit data.
Why not provide a way of killing the data transmission? You have that option on almost every program on a PC, why not here? Or maybe give the option of ads or data transmission. The modern smart phone isn't just a toy for a lot of people anymore, it's their life and also a necessity because it holds every bit of information about them.
Google also needs clear cut explanations in the market of what exactly an app accesses with the given permissions. So an app needs access to my sdcard.... why? What's it doing that requires this access? Something like that. The current setup is too generic; Phone... okay, what the hell does that even mean? It just needs to be more informative or they need to change the permission structure so there are more specific permissions so 'Phone' doesn't give access to 20 different things.

Is Samsung spying on us with the Note and other devices?

I just saw this news and I am floored by this. I am a firm believer in my right to privacy and this is just absurd.
http://gizmodo.com/5863849/your-and...u-do?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
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No. Only affects US carrier-supplied phones from what I've read elsewhere.
If you bought the phone outright and it's loaded with non-carrier branded firmware you wouldn't be affected.
I haven't used a carrier-supplied phone (esp one that wasn't wiped with a custom rom) for years so I can't comment if such practices are also common by Operators in countries other than the US.
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I just saw this news and I am floored by this. I am a firm believer in my right to privacy and this is just absurd.
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That's disgraceful.
I hope the mainstream press makes a fuss about it.
I couldn't believe it when I read about this and watched the video this morning. First thing I did was check if it was on my Note. Thankfully not!
Wow thats worse than apple
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Currently 141 MILLION and a third phones on their Carrier IQ network??? OMG
Let them look. I've got nothing to hide!!
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Prozac69 said:
Let them look. I've got nothing to hide!!
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That is your first mistake.
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Well there is some evidence its on samsung devices as epic 4g as its HTC made. Now reports are it was included in 3.1.3 iOS but disabled only working in debug mode. Now I wonder if its just a debug mode thing since in order to capture we need debug. Also worried its called something else on the phones. What's tracker in our apps??? I'm not fresh loaded but maybe someone else can research now that this cat is out of the bag.
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Can someone here who is rooted and running the original Note firmware install the Logging Test app and check if CIQ is on the Note?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17612559
edit: It looks like CIQ is not installed on the Note.
Guys before u take up arms just think about all the apps that you install.
Most, if not all have access to your personal info.
I am sure every carrier will use the info to do study how the general popluation is doing ( not true always though ) but what about the the people who get all ur contacts and email info...
If u use internet , forget about all privacy... its not there anymore
Really? Have you even read what's going on, and watched TrevE's video? The thing here is that we can't opt-out, we didn't know that CIQ did this, the logs are not encrypted and it also logs your web history and passwords.
If you are OK with this i feel sorry for you. This is spying.
But again, it doesn't look like the Note has this.
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Really? Have you even read what's going on, and watched TrevE's video? The thing here is that we can't opt-out, we didn't know that CIQ did this, the logs are not encrypted and it also logs your web history and passwords.
If you are OK with this i feel sorry for you. This is spying.
But again, it doesn't look like the Note has this.
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We are right to be concerned. If you don't speak up about privacy concerns, even when they don't directly affect you, then we will come to a time when these types of apps and disregard for personal privacy are so prevalent that there will be nothing we can do.
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Homeland Security...
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Wow thats worse than apple
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how so? It was in iOS and Apple has a much better control over their firmware than any other manufacturers who bend over backwards to US carriers.
Also read what apple said carefully.
We stopped supporting CarrierIQ with iOS 5 in most of our products and will remove it completely in a future software update. With any diagnostic data sent to Apple, customers must actively opt-in to share this information, and if they do, the data is sent in an anonymous and encrypted form and does not include any personal information. We never recorded keystrokes, messages or any other personal information for diagnostic data and have no plans to ever do so.
what the hell does it mean by "most" and does this mean all iOS4 devices will have carrier IQ builtin?
I'm pretty disgusted by this Carrier IQ. Whether they do or do not review the information but they have no right to collect personal information without our consent
iPhone 4 still running Carrier IQ:
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-4-but-we-dont-read-your-e-mail-and-texts.ars
It really comes down to the carrier is where our privacy is dug into by the contract we sign. I do not agree about this and will only buy in contract phones or switch to ios in the future. Shame on the carriers!
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This seems a fairly balanced article (surprisingly from CNN):
http://money.cnn.com/2011/12/01/technology/carrier_iq/index.htm
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A good reader comment from the Washington Post:
Do you perform online banking on your mobile device? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned your Login ID and Password despite being securely protected via HTTPS.
Do you carry your mobile device everywhere you go? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned where you family lives, where you work, where your daughter or son goes to school, where your relatives live during the holidays, and where you take your daughter or son to the park, etc..
Do you share your private and secret information through text messages across your spouse, your son or your daughter? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned all about them and you thought no one else would ever know.
Do you use secured data storage apps on your mobile phone? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned your social security numbers, all bank account numbers, all credit card numbers, secret security codes, and all your login IDs and Passwords you use for work and at home. They also know the server location or name and know how long they have left before your passwords expire.
Do you store all the contact numbers of your family members and relatives on your mobile device? If yes, then Carrier IQ has learned your spouses contact number for both mobile and work, your daughter's or your son's number, your grandfather's or grandmothers, your sisters and brothers, your office mates, your employer, and everyone else you've entered into your mobile device.
Now, can you imagine the kinds of illegal and unlawful activities this kind of power and information can do to harm you, your family, your children, your employer, your coworkers, your loved ones simply by using social engineering methods to connect the dots to find all of your weak spots and personal vulnerabilities?
So when Apple says they stopped suppirtung in most iOS 5 products is that because its not installed on ipod nanos and touches...just the iphone 4 and 4s...right? See i think they were very sneaky with their wording... Its not like they said its installed on this this and this, is it.
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The Verge have a great Story stream page on Carrier IQ for anyone interested in a general overview or dig deep on this topic.
personally I found it unacceptable to have a key logger rootkit installed on my smart phone. I use my phone to do online purchases, access my work emails and check my bank accounts.
I'd not buy a computer with rootkit installed, so should a smart phone perform similar functions be any different.
Carrier IQ so far have not answered even the basic questions of what information is being tracked, how the information is stored and if our personal information is being kept safe.

Best Antivirus for ICS

Can someone suggest best antivirus for ICS?
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None. Antivirus software for Android = a scam to make the antivirus vendors money.
Just read reviews for apps before installing them from the Market. Malware is usually pretty obvious.
Norton,avast,dr.web they were tested by some big world company wich test antiviruses so type at google best android's antivirus
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Entropy512 said:
None. Antivirus software for Android = a scam to make the antivirus vendors money.
Just read reviews for apps before installing them from the Market. Malware is usually pretty obvious.
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Not really true. If you are tech savvy enough to be sure you don't have anything with malware then best of luck to you. You are well respected on this forum so I'm sure you'll be fine.
I'm technically minded and a software programmer by trade but I couldn't be sure that any app on the market is safe without fully reverse engineering it (which I'm not eating my time attempting) and even then some sneaky developer could push something dodgy out in an update so I'd have to check them too.
Also checking apps doesn't protect you from dodgy messages, emails, etc.
So, I have AVG on all my Android devices just in case. It uses very little resources and has caught a couple of suspect things over the last 6 months since I moved to 'Droid!
I am using Kaspersky Mobile Security. Very System friendly.
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I am taking the small risk of a data leak over a performance loss, so I am currently not running one, having said that I do run it on my pc :-/
emuX said:
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I'm technically minded and a software programmer by trade but I couldn't be sure that any app on the market is safe without fully reverse engineering it (which I'm not eating my time attempting) and even then some sneaky developer could push something dodgy out in an update so I'd have to check them too.
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It's not about needing to reverse engineer code!
It's more about paying attention to the permissions that the app requests when you go to install it and deciding if they are appropriate.
For example, an app that just makes farting noises almost certainly doesn't need access to your contacts, and services that cost you money.
Some people think that an Android antivirus program will protect them against such threats, and they will if the application has been "blacklisted". However, most of these programs rely on blacklists, so until a particular application is flagged as malware, you are still at risk!
The moral of the story is, nothing beats eternal vigilance!
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emuX said:
Not really true. If you are tech savvy enough to be sure you don't have anything with malware then best of luck to you. You are well respected on this forum so I'm sure you'll be fine.
I'm technically minded and a software programmer by trade but I couldn't be sure that any app on the market is safe without fully reverse engineering it (which I'm not eating my time attempting) and even then some sneaky developer could push something dodgy out in an update so I'd have to check them too.
Also checking apps doesn't protect you from dodgy messages, emails, etc.
So, I have AVG on all my Android devices just in case. It uses very little resources and has caught a couple of suspect things over the last 6 months since I moved to 'Droid!
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And neither will these 'antivirus' software help if a developer slips something in, the truth is the best thing you can do it check comments malware is far less a problem on android then Windows, these companys simply try to sell you this software as so many people are used to needing it on windows they think android is the same.
All the apps do is detect known 'black listed' apps which are either not going to be on the market or have bad comments already.
While the main reason for these apps is pointless I will say some of the extra features are quite useful including device tracking etc.
However I would never buy one of these apps for sure
Avast Free s the best, enough said.
John
Tinderbox (UK) said:
Avast Free s the best, enough said.
John
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Yep
The additional 'Theft Aware' software, is free as well
emuX said:
Not really true. If you are tech savvy enough to be sure you don't have anything with malware then best of luck to you. You are well respected on this forum so I'm sure you'll be fine.
I'm technically minded and a software programmer by trade but I couldn't be sure that any app on the market is safe without fully reverse engineering it (which I'm not eating my time attempting) and even then some sneaky developer could push something dodgy out in an update so I'd have to check them too.
Also checking apps doesn't protect you from dodgy messages, emails, etc.
So, I have AVG on all my Android devices just in case. It uses very little resources and has caught a couple of suspect things over the last 6 months since I moved to 'Droid!
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You my friend, are to paranoid.
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You my friend, are to paranoid.
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Better that than having all my account details hacked because some dodgy app is snooping.
Responding to the others who replied to me...
If you choose a reputable AV company like AVG or Norton you should be safe.
And, you can't tell much from the permissions. Yes, if the app asks for access to your contacts and phone identity then you could just not install it, but what if it was an alternative dialer that was ad supported? - then it would need internet access and permissions to read your phone details (like Go Dialer) and then you are stuffed.
I've got a door at the front of my house. Even though I live in a good area and have neighbours around most of the day, I still lock it!
foxmeister said:
It's not about needing to reverse engineer code!
It's more about paying attention to the permissions that the app requests when you go to install it and deciding if they are appropriate.
For example, an app that just makes farting noises almost certainly doesn't need access to your contacts, and services that cost you money.
Some people think that an Android antivirus program will protect them against such threats, and they will if the application has been "blacklisted". However, most of these programs rely on blacklists, so until a particular application is flagged as malware, you are still at risk!
The moral of the story is, nothing beats eternal vigilance!
Regards,
Dave
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emuX said:
I've got a door at the front of my house. Even though I live in a good area and have neighbours around most of the day, I still lock it!
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To use your analogy, your "antivirus" app is like a bouncer on your front door. If a known threat pitches up and wants to come in, the bouncer will stop them, but for new and unknown threats, he'll happily wave them through.
Given that reputable app stores like Google Play or Amazon are quick to remove known threats, all you've done is bought yourself a false sense of security! Good luck with that!
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Dave
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I was just asking about this kind of thing just the other day.
Here is what I found (http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/android/)
The Best stuff at the moment seems to be
avast! Free Mobile Security
F-Secure Mobile Security
Kaspersky Mobile Security (Lite)
. . . .McAfee Mobile Security >_> (Apparently...)
and
Zoner AntiVirus Free
I'm using COMODO on Android (good antivirus, real time scaner and great anti theft options) and on PC i'm using COMODO Internet Security (antivirus+firewall+sandbox). It's free both on Android and PC.
Avast
Avast...without doubt.Run it on my PC too.
I'm using LBE to adjust/monitor permissions for apps. I don't think antivirus programs will do you any good.
Avast is the best in my opinion. Even though its a really good AV and its also free I still dont use one. Don't need one on my mobile.
Even on Windows I never get viruses.
Most malware and viruses come in with dodgy emails and dodgy websites. Avoid those and you'll be fine.
I just use Avast even though I like it more for the Anti-theft feature than the actual anti-virus feature.

Anyone else nervous about new Google Assistant?

The pixel seems like I good phone but I'm a little apprehensive about the new assistant app. I'm sure it will arrive on all phones eventually. I really don't want google to always know where I am, how long i was there, where I'm eating, if I'm moving around, what I'm buying, watching on tv, and searching for. Full access to my texts, emails, and friends. Best case scenario is they use/sell all my life's info to a marketing company. They should call the app Snowden assistant. My life is boring, but they don't need to know that. Google is becoming too invasive just to change your money into consumer products. And all Nouget kernels are locked, so without a leak, you become a Google Ad Slave without any self protection. I don't like it.
if you think that's bad it get worse i call tmobile yesterday wifes phone. acting up
they new everything that was on and how many pictures were on phone and the list goes on .they same said 1st issue you have developers on which is bad second that wifi was on and needed to be off for more diagnostic. so any way don't be too worried of google as tmobile also knows what's on your phone
This is why I personally feel root should be option on all devices. Are we to trust all the hands in our private cookie jars? I personally feel more secure with my control of my device than with large companies that are constant targets of hackers. I'm glad we have more control over what apps can access in android 6 and and 7, but still no real control what the carriers and their friends can access about our lives and what they do that info. It will be interesting to see if people end up caring enough about their privacy or maybe I'm just being too sensitive about it.
1iwilly said:
if you think that's bad it get worse i call tmobile yesterday wifes phone. acting up
they new everything that was on and how many pictures were on phone and the list goes on .they same said 1st issue you have developers on which is bad second that wifi was on and needed to be off for more diagnostic. so any way don't be too worried of google as tmobile also knows what's on your phone
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This is why I disable the My T-Mobile app it is how they gather all this information. If you root the app will even try to request root permissions which is insane.
XmentalX said:
This is why I disable the My T-Mobile app it is how they gather all this information. If you root the app will even try to request root permissions which is insane.
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Indeed. I have the unlocked S7 Edge .. no carrier or Samsung bloat installed. This Big Bro crap is just that .. crap. They also load up a diag process as part of the MyTmobile app. You don't opt out of their network testing and disable that process .. it will eat your network connection and system resources. It hit my Note 7 and made it unusable for 40 minutes. I noticed the data arrows going mad and figured this was the problem. It was. I disabled all the TMO software and this separate process and everything was good .. then recall. Not a good month all the way around.
Bubba Fett said:
The pixel seems like I good phone but I'm a little apprehensive about the new assistant app. I'm sure it will arrive on all phones eventually. I really don't want google to always know where I am, how long i was there, where I'm eating, if I'm moving around, what I'm buying, watching on tv, and searching for. Full access to my texts, emails, and friends. Best case scenario is they use/sell all my life's info to a marketing company. They should call the app Snowden assistant. My life is boring, but they don't need to know that. Google is becoming too invasive just to change your money into consumer products. And all Nouget kernels are locked, so without a leak, you become a Google Ad Slave without any self protection. I don't like it.
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Don't worry, Google Assistant is exclusive to Pixel phones. Google probably doesn't need Assistant to know everything about you anyhow.
XmentalX said:
This is why I disable the My T-Mobile app it is how they gather all this information. If you root the app will even try to request root permissions which is insane.
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Dr. Fed said:
Don't worry, Google Assistant is exclusive to Pixel phones. Google probably doesn't need Assistant to know everything about you anyhow.
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And once the Pixel folks have worked out the kinks by beta testing it .. it'll get pushed out to everyone.
Anyone who thinks the Pixel will sell enough to make it work Google doing it as an exclusive feature is just nuts. Also, the folks who created Siri just got bought by Samsung so most likely by summer '17 we'll all be saying "Hey, Viv!" and all that silliness.
1iwilly said:
if you think that's bad it get worse i call tmobile yesterday wifes phone. acting up
they new everything that was on and how many pictures were on phone and the list goes on .they same said 1st issue you have developers on which is bad second that wifi was on and needed to be off for more diagnostic. so any way don't be too worried of google as tmobile also knows what's on your phone
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Well, when you first get the phone, at the beginning the t-mobile app ask if you give them permission to collect data to "easily diagnosed" issues on your phone ...you have the option of denial or acceptance on that....or you also can disable the t-mobile app on app manager
farru503 said:
Well, when you first get the phone, at the beginning the t-mobile app ask if you give them permission to collect data to "easily diagnosed" issues on your phone ...you have the option of denial or acceptance on that....or you also can disable the t-mobile app on app manager
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I kinda wondered what that does. You still have to opt out of maps, chrome, google app and Google account to fully unhook from google. There are many sub menu options in Google account especially.
Bubba Fett said:
I kinda wondered what that does. You still have to opt out of maps, chrome, google app and Google account to fully unhook from google. There are many sub menu options in Google account especially.
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Well at least Google gives their customers the options to turn off all of that... you just need patience to go over and READ descriptions of every single option...Google puts everything there for ppl to choose...it's just ppl are too lazy lol
What's irritating me, and I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but ever since Google stated only the Pixel would have this feature, Google Now has been crippled on Samsung phones. Used to get news, all sorts of info, now when I go to Google Now, I only get the sports teams I follow and location based stuff. I think Google is pulling a stunt to push people to the Pixel. Not cool.
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