Hi all,
I always had Nexus phones, I don't really like samsung.. but this time, I obtained an S6 Edge Plus for nothing, and look into the dev forum, I think this forum is empty of many knowed roms, but the S6 Edge forum is full of tons of roms
My question is WHY ? because this phone is new ? or not many devs are interrested by them ?
Will he have a great XDA support from devs for custom AOSP 6.0 roms ?
I want to know this, because with Nexus and OnePlus phones, I always love to switch and test all custom roms, if I can't make same on this S6 Edge Plus, I will sell them
Thanks a lot
xTremePower said:
Hi all,
this forum is empty of many knowed roms, but the S6 Edge forum is full of tons of roms
My question is WHY ?
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especially that it is the same hardwarev specifications , except the amount of ram, am I wrong?
As far as I know, Samsung has not released the sourcecode for the edge+, making it difficult for devs to build roms for it. Its still possible, but most devs are boycotting the phone in protest against this.
That's why there arent many roms, and it'll probably stay that way. But we will be getting 6.0 sometime in January or February, depending on your carrier.
Yes, but please, STOP Quote entire posts just for that, a simple Quick Reply is Enought
He quoted you because he had one of the same questions you did, many people would have done the same.
Bhavpreet said:
As far as I know, Samsung has not released the sourcecode for the edge+
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it's a joke oO ?
why samsung make this ? it's the same like the normal edge oO
Why he kill his products himself ?
anybody know if it will be released or not ?
if not, i will sell this phone directly ...
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Euh ? there was the offical sources for all version of G928 :
http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=sm-g928
Let's be honest to ourselves here guys, out beloved Moto X Style was officially released in September which means this phone has now been out for at least 3 months and while all the effort that has since been put in this devices by key developers and people from day 1 up till now is very much appreciated and will continue to be appreciated, the development of this device compared to most flagships has been slow motion.
I am just trying to understand what the hell went wrong with this phone that made it end up with such super slow motion development, as when I originally bought the device I was thinking this phone would be at least in the top 20 most active phones on XDA development wise.
It had so much going for it, easy root, easy unlockable bootloader, a pretty much almost complete stock version of android, kernel sources released and motorolas good track record of updating their flagship phones in a timely manner and good hardware to accompany the great bloatware free stock software and a cheap price compared to some other flagships from other companies such as Samsung and Sony
With all this in mind I thought developers would flock to this device and we would have a massive development forum with loads of options between custom roms, mods, themes and other tweaks etc
But this is far from the case and I know the Nexus 6P being released probably had something to do with it, Still this should have been at least in top 20
At first I thought when Android 6.0 MM will be released development will increase then we needed the kernel sources as that was apparently not enough, then we had kernel sources but apart from 1 or 2 roms showing up being in alpha stages nothings changed too much.
This is such a disappointment to say the least.
If only I could understand why this is happening maybe something could be done to fix this or increase the development of this phone, I dont know maybe get some developers from the nexus 6p forums on here some how ...
Any ideas why this has happened and if anything can be done to increase development?
IS THERE ANY WAY WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN GET MORE DEVELOPERS TO WORK ON THIS DEVICE?
djsynth said:
If only I could understand why this is happening maybe something could be done to fix this or increase the development of this phone, I dont know maybe get some developers from the nexus 6p forums on here some how ...
Any ideas why this has happened and if anything can be done to increase development?
IS THERE ANY WAY WE AS A COMMUNITY CAN GET MORE DEVELOPERS TO WORK ON THIS DEVICE?
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I think it's due to a combination of factors, such as :
1) The popularity of the phone/ manufacturer. These figures show Lenovo/Motorloa in 5th place for sales, having a 3.7% market share in Q3 2015
2) The OS (Android) has improved a lot over recent years, to the extent where a lot of people (like me) are happy to stay with stock
3) With phones getting more expensive, more people are put off from unlocking their bootloader due to warranty issues
4) I'm no longer convinced about the benefits of custom ROMs - seems a lot of the time they break more things than they fix. Maybe a lot of other people now think the same.
5) Some apps, for example ones for mobile banking or subscrition TV & Video, will not work with a rooted phone.
In the past I've had various phones from various manufacturers, and I'd say if you get your kicks from installing custom ROMs, then buy a Nexus.
When i had the one plus one there were so many roms that was a brain storm... I prefer some and reliable roms than a plethora where you get confused!!!
2) The OS (Android) has improved a lot over recent years, to the extent where a lot of people (like me) are happy to stay with stock
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4) I'm no longer convinced about the benefits of custom ROMs - seems a lot of the time they break more things than they fix. Maybe a lot of other people now think the same.
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IMO you hit the nail on the head. I love this phone. I had the MXPE 2014 as well, was not a fan. Also owned the original, Loved it.
This MXPE has been great in imo, the lack of development has not been disappointing to me. The stock rom is really pretty good, there are minor tweaks that can be done but most can do these on their own.
I used to be a flash-aholic, but like @GretaLewd has stated...custom roms tend to break things. I'm more in favor of kernel development. But how many different kernels can you have? One way or another they'll be the same.
I also own a Nexus 6P, but my MXPE is my go to device.
I see users complaining about this phone constantly, I really don't think it matters what phone you put in the hands of those users...they would still find fault and complain.
Motorola and Lenovo did good by this device, I just hope they keep up with incrementals for a while.
Isn't the 64bit cpu reason because it takes more work to get cm/aosp roms?
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Good thread. Would love to hear more thoughts
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Ordered the device today. Hope slow development doesn't disappoint me on this device, as others have stated...
I have been using this device for 2 months now. I am happy with it an didn't face a single issue. I can do a little bit tweaking myself using Xposed.
So far the slow development doesn't bother me.
Only buy a device for what it can do out of the box, not what you hope it will be able to do with additional modding and development... Nothing else is guaranteed!
As it stands I'm very happy with my rooted stock Style, not need for custom roms.
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Only buy a device for what it can do out of the box, not what you hope it will be able to do with additional modding and development... Nothing else is guaranteed!
As it stands I'm very happy with my rooted stock Style, not need for custom roms.
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That's a good way to approach Android phones I suppose but I believe
it's still nice to buy a phone that's great out of the box and good development wise, usually flagships tend to have good development and then the mid range and low end phones tend to get smaller developments but I guess there's an exception to everything.
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Isn't the 64bit cpu reason because it takes more work to get cm/aosp roms?
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I doubt that's the reason since 64 Bit has been the standard since Lollipop and pretty much all the flagships have a 64bit cpu since the beggining of 2015 but that doesn't stop other development forums from flourishing.
GretaLewd said:
I think it's due to a combination of factors, such as :
1) The popularity of the phone/ manufacturer. These figures show Lenovo/Motorloa in 5th place for sales, having a 3.7% market share in Q3 2015
2) The OS (Android) has improved a lot over recent years, to the extent where a lot of people (like me) are happy to stay with stock
3) With phones getting more expensive, more people are put off from unlocking their bootloader due to warranty issues
4) I'm no longer convinced about the benefits of custom ROMs - seems a lot of the time they break more things than they fix. Maybe a lot of other people now think the same.
5) Some apps, for example ones for mobile banking or subscrition TV & Video, will not work with a rooted phone.
In the past I've had various phones from various manufacturers, and I'd say if you get your kicks from installing custom ROMs, then buy a Nexus.
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Thank you for your break down on your thoughts of the subject and I must admit you've mention some very valid points here especially Point 1,2 and 5 but I think out of all of these its Point 1 and 2 that are the most significant, I suppose Motorola have a really small market share explains the lack of adoption between developers when comparing to some of the more prominent manufacturers such as samsung.
and The Android Stock OS has improved significantly within the past couple of years adding some new features that previously people had to root their phones to acomplish such as full app permission controls and backing up app data which google does for you now.
You need to follow development before buying a device these days. i.e. always wait at least 1-2 months. If you follow the development forums you would get an idea if developers are interested in said device or not. I for one, bought it right after I found out that AICP (CM12) rom was being developed. I was interested in running CM13 instead of other AOSP variations. And before I got the device the first (almost daily driver) builds were already uploaded.
Once cm is solid quite a few roms will pop up. Won't be long now.
Official MM has only been out for our phone for a little over a month. give it some time it may pick up. either way it's still an awesome phone out the box... and as stated above, once CM13 is stable im sure we'll see some of the other custom ROMs that are based off it.
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2) The OS (Android) has improved a lot over recent years, to the extent where a lot of people (like me) are happy to stay with stock
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This is a great point, but I'd like to add that this is especially applicable to our MXPE. We're really close to stock as it is, so there's little motivation to go ROM to debloat like there is on Samsung, LG, and similar phones. On the flip side, we have a lot of really neat features (active display, approach, accelerator gestures, voice controls) that we would lose if we went ROM.
For me, these two points combine, leaving me with little motivation to ROM my phone, especially since I can could get most of the advantages of CyanogenMod with something like GravityBox, which will allow me to keep the Motorola features (I'm currently unrooted because of the warranty, but I'll be rooted in the future for sure) . Of course, these are my own personal opinions, but I suspect that they reflect at least some of the mindset of this community.
I agree with others, that custom roms are often more trouble than they're worth. The only reason to use them these days is if your device isn't going to be updated to the latest version of Android.
Ever since moto introduced 99% stock android + moto display, roms have been entirely unnecessary for me. I used to rom my phones to gain greater flexibility + customizability. Now that I have stock android + Xposed, I doubt I will ever flash another custom rom again.
I'm still waiting for custom super roms that will make this device best in the market. Why can we have a rom with 1080p display, tweak kernel with better control for heating issue for overall battery life and speed?
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The biggest issue is that developers don't support devices they don't own. With the launch of the nexus 6 (not the 6p) most developers got it and had no need to update to a y newer devices.
Also to the comment that all flag ships are 64 bit this is not the case. If you look the most popular devices as far as developers are concerned are non 64 bit.
Also as android matures you will see less and less roms. As it will be come harder. There are very few real development teams. Most are just kitchen sink roms. A base with tons of cherry picks and a new name. Nothing even worth looking at twice. But more developers are closing up the source of their projects because of these types of roms.
To be honest most users have no point in flashing roms. Only those that like the development side of it will continue to mod roms and flash things.
Hello. I have been looking for custom roms for my Lenovo Tab 4 10 Plus (X704F) for quite a while now and have found nothing so far. Not a single rom or even a mention of one being in development. I really hate the current rom to the point where i have considered selling or giving the tablet away. Am i out of luck or is there still hope for a custom rom?
As an Enthusiest I don't see why we cant get roms as its definitely possible as the device uses stock android we at least have magisk and twrp so its great but it could be better as I'd love to see Oreo or at least Nougat roms I'm almost tempted to learn Android Development just to give the device some love apart from the fact I haven't ever tried or know where to get started.
I hope too in a developer to build a Lineage Rom or something like that. But the Tab (for what i saw) probably is getting an update to Android Oreo...let's see what will happen in the coming months
Sadly, There won't be an update.
I only recently came to the realization that Lenovo had let this tablet go to crap by adding bloatware and failing to update to Oreo or beyond. My son is constantly complaining to me about needing more storage on the tablet. He has an SD card, but only certain things will work on it.
I am looking for any potential solutions to extend the useful life of this tablet that seems very limited by its OS and bloatware, despite having capable hardware.
Is the best that I can hope for to root the tablet and remove a couple of system apps? Is there any hope on the custom ROM front, or is this tablet just not popular enough? I was really shocked to see that there are precisely zero custom ROMs for it. Please tell me that I am missing something.
What has anyone else done to salvage this thing?
I have both Tab 8 3 plus and Tab 4 10 plus (both lte). The Tab 8 already has 3 great custom roms (especially Crdoid!) Both tablets have quite similar hardware (same CPU...). I was wondering whether one or these roms could be modified and ported to the Tab 4...
Hello everyone,
I've been reading about the new google project Android go which will bring all the low resources phones android 8.1 optimizing the ram usage and many other aspects so that 8.1 can run smoothly.
Our galaxy s5 is now getting a "low end" phone even if it is simply amazing, so I was thinking, for people like me who love touchwiz, android go is a new hope to get android 8.1 officially and to give a new and longer life to our loved phone.
How about it developers? do you think it will be possible to get a ported versione for our galaxy s5? At the moment it seems that lineageOs staff is working on it already.
How about you galaxy s5 users? would you like to have it on your phone? what do you all think about it?
I'm happy to read your impressions and hopes, please leave a comment :fingers-crossed:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mod-low-ram-property-patcher-android-t3737373
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...mod-low-ram-property-patcher-android-t3737373
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Thank you....I was hoping to get a "ported" version of the android go from samsung to get and "official" android 8.1 on our galaxy s5 keeping the great camera quality and audio quality avoiding to move to a non touchwiz rom, it would be great! I personally think that it won't be something impossible and I hope to see it soon on xda I tried already the file in the link and I personally don't notice a great improvement on a 6.0.1 android rom as it is optimized for 8.1 android. anyway thank you so much :good::good::good:
bebop80 said:
Thank you....I was hoping to get a "ported" version of the android go from samsung to get and "official" android 8.1 on our galaxy s5 keeping the great camera quality and audio quality avoiding to move to a non touchwiz rom, it would be great! I personally think that it won't be something impossible and I hope to see it soon on xda I tried already the file in the link and I personally don't notice a great improvement on a 6.0.1 android rom as it is optimized for 8.1 android. anyway thank you so much :good::good::good:
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You won't notice any big difference since the S5 hardware is still capable of handling Android 8 flawlessly, you may notice some improvement on increased internal storage capacity and ram management when running a lot of apps.
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You won't notice any big difference since the S5 hardware is still capable of handling Android 8 flawlessly, you may notice some improvement on increased internal storage capacity and ram management when running a lot of apps.
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bebop80 said:
Hello everyone,
I've been reading about the new google project Android go which will bring all the low resources phones android 8.1 optimizing the ram usage and many other aspects so that 8.1 can run smoothly.
Our galaxy s5 is now getting a "low end" phone even if it is simply amazing, so I was thinking, for people like me who love touchwiz, android go is a new hope to get android 8.1 officially and to give a new and longer life to our loved phone.
How about it developers? do you think it will be possible to get a ported versione for our galaxy s5? At the moment it seems that lineageOs staff is working on it already.
How about you galaxy s5 users? would you like to have it on your phone? what do you all think about it?
I'm happy to read your impressions and hopes, please leave a comment :fingers-crossed:
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Did you mean like we will get official android 8.1 touchwiz rom?? Ported tw roms available but almost roms are unstable. Am glad if developers design new official android 8.1 tw rom to s5 without porting other tw phones rom.
Android Go's basic requirement is 1G Ram.Stop daydreaming
nk950357 said:
Android Go's basic requirement is 1G Ram.Stop daydreaming
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Do you know how much ram does s5 have?
yazar rafi said:
Do you know how much ram does s5 have?
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I mean Android Go only support max 1G Ram
nk950357 said:
I mean Android Go only support max 1G Ram
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Minimum*
yazar rafi said:
Do you know how much ram does s5 have?
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2 GB only
Hi there
I am looking for a Rom higher or Android 7 for my Samsung Galaxy S3 MIni VE GT-I8200N?
Is there such a thing? Has anyone had a good experience with a Rome like this?
Woud be nice. Thanks
If there is one, at least it's not known here ... The 'development' for this device is dead since many years
I haven't found a good ROM here @ XDA.
I found a link on youtube. It's not entirely clear to me whether you have to install both files. There are two available for download. The 1st file did not run smoothly and so I pushed the 2nd afterwards. Now the device runs very stable and relatively fast. But it's only Android 6.
I cannot give any information about the seriousness. Maybe you don't have to do online banking with it.
Well, what you've found is a fake ... just Marshmallow skin/style, but based on Android 4.2.2