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Hello,
I just received my Toshiba folio 100 with android 2.2. I'm trying to install 10.1 version of adobe flash since 2 hours but without success.
Has anyone already done it?
There's no Android Market on this device. I've downloaded the 10.1.95.2 apk file and installed it, but it froze my browser.
Any help would be welcomed.
Thanks,
Pedro
Sorry I can't help as I don't have one but when did they launch and where can you get one? How much?
How are you finding it? Would love to hear a review.
It has Opera Mobile 10 doesn't it? would that version work for other phones as well?
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Sorry I can't help as I don't have one but when did they launch and where can you get one? How much?
How are you finding it? Would love to hear a review.
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Not that great, and not coming to the US either.
Toshiba Folio 100 preview
By Paul Miller posted Sep 2nd 2010 12:21PM
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/02/toshiba-folio-100-preview/
We just got to handle the Folio 100, after witnessing it bolted to a wall earlier, and we have to admit that it's lighter and thinner than it looks at first glance. Unfortunately, it still feels pretty cheap, and we're not sure how much we trust ourselves one-handing something this large and fragile seeming. Our brief glimpse of Toshiba's custom skin on here was most depressing -- it's not final, but we're not sure why Toshiba is even bothering showing anything in this abysmal state. The bits we've seen of Toshiba's market (for music, apps, e-books and so forth) look a bit better, but as far as we know there's no official Android Market on this thing -- a kiss of death for almost any Android device. Toshiba's biggest failure here, however, is probably the LCD it sourced for this tablet -- the screen looks as cheap and low res as could be, and while a €399 list price is decent for a tablet this size, it hardly seems a good excuse to stoop to KIRF-level components. Hit up the gallery for all the angles, along with some comparison shots with the mind share monopolizing iPad.
Update: We just heard from Toshiba's US team and there are apparently no plans to bring the Folio 100 stateside. Given our lackluster first impressions, we can't say we're all that upset by that...
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I can't seem to find anywhere this Toshiba Folio can be purchased yet, it's apparently supposed to be released October 2010 for £329.
A dump of that Opera Mobile should be interesting as it's not going to be out yet for Android publicly probably for a little bit longer. It's been shown off since February and here's a video on the Galaxy S. It's the same guy in both videos but his hair seems to have green since February in the latest one.
Are there any other reports of Opera Mobile being preloaded on any other device?
About the Adobe Flash though, the press release here [PDF] advertises it's Adobe Flash 10.1 trueness so I would assume it's pre-installed like on the Froyo Galaxy S update (albeit not the latest version, it's always updating being Flash and all).
If you're trying to install it from a provided APK and it's crashing maybe it's because the NVIDIA Tegra2 the tablet's supposed to have is a dual core chip and Adobe needs to provide a special version for it (don't trust me on this).
Currys in Croydon has one on display. I had a play with it and haven't been very impressed.
Good:
- Android 2.2
- We plugged in a USB keyboard and it worked instantly and the sales advisor said that a USB mouse worked just as well.
- The Toshiba file browser makes it easy to access the USB port and the SD card (Full sized SD slot I think)
- Has four buttons on the side but I like the fact that you have to press them deliberately to activate them rather than just accidentally brushing over them and closing your app like with my Galaxy S.
- Tegra 2
Bad:
- It looks really cheap and the LCD panel is like one of the cheapest netbook panels you can find on the market. The Galaxy Pad and the iPad were displayed next to it and they just made it look even cheaper
- Fonts don't look very smooth
- I couldn't get flash websites to play when just switched on. I found an apk of 10.1 and installed it however it started to crash the android browser. The sales assistant said that he would look into enabling flash. I'll check back in a few days to give flash on BBC iPlayer a go.
- Barely any apps installed by default. - I'd forgive the app problem in the case of the Vega due to the much lower price but is not forgiveable in the case of the Folio when it looks like a Asda's own brand electronic photo frame and it costs £330
- Swiping through the interface didn't feel any smoother than on my Galaxy S
If the Vega turns out to be a better quality product I will probably get it.
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The Galaxy Pad and the iPad were displayed next to it and they just made it look even cheaper
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Where do you live that the Galaxy Pad is on display? What country / store?
I got my Folio 100 today, and im looking forward to do some real nice modding here, and first get Market app working, as done on Eken M001, so that experience can easily help us here..
I know from my motorola and htc, that the flash player 10.1 you can download, does a model check, and is , as far as i know, only working on N1,desire,droid,milestone phones, maybe that check is no longer present..
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- It looks really cheap and the LCD panel is like one of the cheapest netbook panels you can find on the market. The Galaxy Pad and the iPad were displayed next to it and they just made it look even cheaper
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pricetag on it, is also for us in Denmark like 50% percent off almost.. so comparing to another galaxy pad or little cheaper ipad, im not sure you can expect LG lcd inside such a model, but ill see if the quality is acceptable.
most of them can be calibrated anyways, so if its a color issue, it can be fixed.
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- Fonts don't look very smooth
- I couldn't get flash websites to play when just switched on. I found an apk of 10.1 and installed it however it started to crash the android browser. The sales assistant said that he would look into enabling flash. I'll check back in a few days to give flash on BBC iPlayer a go.
- Barely any apps installed by default. - I'd forgive the app problem in the case of the Vega due to the much lower price but is not forgiveable in the case of the Folio when it looks like a Asda's own brand electronic photo frame and it costs £330
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All this is without modding, lets just get the modding started, and ill think less of what Toshiba accomplished and look at others when their packs are in place.
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- Swiping through the interface didn't feel any smoother than on my Galaxy S
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? what exactly do you mean? i got Galaxy S, and if you already state its just as good, im looking forward to it
how can it be bad?
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Where do you live that the Galaxy Pad is on display? What country / store?
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I live in UK
Dexter_nlb said:
? what exactly do you mean? i got Galaxy S, and if you already state its just as good, im looking forward to it
how can it be bad?
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I don't know - I just expected the Tegra 2 Dual Core to just obliterate the single core CPU in the Galaxy S. I have no doubt that the Folio is a great platform to loads apps on I just expected a lot more of it considering it costs £130 more than the Advent Vega in the UK.
That said if someone gave me one I would sing it's praises
Have you gotten any good 3D games on it? I'd love to see how good the Tegra 2 is.
I think I saw an article today saying that Toshiba rushed to get the Folio out and didn't include Flash. It is or it should be downloadable from the Toshiba Market and the second batch due in Q1 2011 will have it installed by default.
On a side not I upgraded my Galaxy S to Froyo today and it is so cool playing all flash content, chrome2phone etc
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Have you gotten any good 3D games on it? I'd love to see how good the Tegra 2 is.
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not yet, it has so far been more technical, and trying to root it, and get into recovery so i can somhow make a proper backup of the device before i start changing everything..
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I think I saw an article today saying that Toshiba rushed to get the Folio out and didn't include Flash. It is or it should be downloadable from the Toshiba Market and the second batch due in Q1 2011 will have it installed by default.
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and no, i looked at the system partition right now, there is no flash apk's and no libs indicating any flash support.
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not yet, it has so far been more technical, and trying to root it, and get into recovery so i can somhow make a proper backup of the device before i start changing everything..
and no, i looked at the system partition right now, there is no flash apk's and no libs indicating any flash support.
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Toshiba is expecting to release flash for the FOLIO during next week (expected 10th). This should be available through Toshiba Market.
/Kevin (DK)
Out of all the Android tablets the only 2 that shine is the Toshiba Folio 100 and the Advent Vega.
Why?
Well firstly they're both >8.8" so you get a generous dose of screen-estate and the form factor is still nimble/small. These could substitute for netbooks but 7" tablets cannot imho.
Secondly they're generous in they're offerings (BT, Wifi, HDMI, USB host, SD slot) and high-performance.
I live in Australia so we always get devices a little later than US/UK. So for me the availability does not matter as the transaction would occur through the internet.
I may be importing an Advent Vega or a Toshiba Folio 100 ... so I am eagerly waiting for reviews (none available yet, just Google'd).
What will be the general deciding factor would be:
1) Display.
We know that Froyo supports only upto 600p. We know both devices have 10.1" TFT screens, so I hope they've kept the gloss to a minimum.
We know Toshiba Folio 100 has a 600p display and the Advent Vega was leaked to have a 600p resolution. However, in a recent video (@3:20) the PR says videos play above 720p but below 1080p on the Vega. This implies 1366x768 resolution which would mean (once Gingerbread is ported) sharp graphics, no need to convert videos, possible to watch digital TV.
These are huge advantages over the Folio 100, but it could've been said accidentally and he may have meant to say "the device can playback more than 720p but less than 1080p content via videoOUT but not on the device screen". If this is the case its upsetting because Tegra2 is supposed to be able to smoothly playback 1080p video ... so this implies a performance bottleneck (most likely by a smaller 512Mb RAM, if not then a lack of drivers).
2) Performance.
I've already gotten into the subject; which one has more RAM? Both have the same Tegra2 SoC which is supposed to be blazing fast, but if it only had 512Mb RAM it would only be as fast as the current-highend (Galaxy S, Desire Z, Droid2). And would mean it might jitter at the performance-intensive applications we currently have, and one's we will have in the future.
3) Battery life.
We don't know the REAL battery life on either device, must wait for reviews.
4) General build/features.
They're pretty even as far as "hands-on" describes but the Toshiba is slightly ahead because it has an SD slot (cheaper cards) than Vega's microSD. Also the Toshiba has a removable battery which the Vega may not have (unknown at the moment). The Toshiba has 3G connectivity, which the Vega lacks but may get in 2011Q1.
5) Price.
Wait and see.
Currently I'm hooked on the Advent Vega (name reminds me of Vegeta) and the prospect of a 720p tablet. I don't care much for the price, if the Advent Vegeta really gets a 720p screen and 1GB RAM I would easily overlook its shortcomings (No Market, No 3G, microSD, nonremovable-battery, plastic build) I would be happy to pay in the iPad range
.... I will get Market hacked, MIUI loaded, tether (I've already got 2GB/month on my GalaxyS) hehehe
I got mine yesterday. I think they are a little on the crazy side releaseing this table so early as people will give it negative feedback based on their expereince. This device is not ready for the general public. If your technical you can work you way around it, but you need to be at developer level to get this performing to its bes. Im going to hang on to mine for a while, although no flash player or sound when im playing video files and a slightly dodgy HDMI port are worrying me.
be nice if we could get a folio device section on here....
second that with the need for a Folio section
Has anyone had any problems with the DNLA or UPnP? I cant get mine working when all the other devices like xbox, archos and pcs all find the UPnp server
I had the Folio 100 for a while but returned it, I started a thread on Modaco with all my info.
Short version:
Current flash APK crashes _hard_ it will not work without an update from Adobe or Tosh (or the OEM that really made it)
All the games I tried wouldn't run at all. Either they were trying to rely on /mnt/sdcard (which doesn't exist due to the way they mount the internal memory), the opengles lib segfaulted (Look like the drivers are alpha quality) or they used the Android market call-home anti-piracy check, which fails due to not having the market.
Also the deep power-save it goes into could get stuck (and would always kill adb when the screen went off)
The OS is signed with the SDK _test keys_ (talk about amateur mistake)
IMHO, combined with the _terrible_ screen I'd steer clear until the software is updated at the least.
I think that we need a Folio section too.
A Test2 build seems to be out ...
Working for live stream of the F1 practice.
Still beta as it managed to reboot the Folio just now
CHECK YOUR TOSHIBA SERVICE STATION PEOPLE FLASH PLUGIN BETA AVAILABLE!!!!!!!
Working well on BBC Iplayer!
this device has a 1024x800 screen resolution, will this cause many of apps n games cant work with this device? i love it but i scared i will lost my favorite apps
From my experience with several 1024x600 devices, most apps will look perfect, some will look weird, and almost none will not run at all.
An example of looking weird would be Google Reader, which only shows an article in a small portion of the screen, even though the feeds and labels lists are full screen.
Its poor programming. I and the company I work for make sure our software will run and look as best as possible on a variety of screen sizes larger than what is presently available. The emulator makes it simple to test and there really is no excuse for this.
Galaxy Tab::Tapatalk
BTW, it is 1280x800, not 1024
According to one site, here r the screen specs:
1920x1080 (1080p HD) (24 fps), 1280x720 (720p HD) - sorry these are camera specs
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-Tab-10.1_id5212
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Not to mention...developers will continue cranking out apps for Tablets. I imagine lots of current apps will be upgraded as well, there are devs already doing this as we speak.
http://thisismynext.com/2011/08/15/fusion-garage-grid-10-tablet-specs-release-date-pricing/
Wonder if it'll work on the Iconia?
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All the specs are there. In fact, our iconia a500 has more ram and much better cameras. So, yes, as soon as gridos is out I'm sure we'll get a port.
GRID OS is heavily modified Android so it may be possible to port it but if I remember correctly the GRID10 Tablet has screen resolution of 1366x768 ! If this is true it may be a big problem for the port!
Hi, I own a xperia x10 mini and I notice some apps wont work on it because of the screen size (said by one of those apps developers) is there an away to me to port it to work on my phone please?
Well the issue is your screen resolution (although I'm guessing you already knew that). I have a friend with a Samsung Galaxy Europa who has the same issues because of the QVGA screen. Sorry but I don't think there's any way around this.
Just out of curiosity though, which apps are you trying to install? In some cases there may be alternatives that will support your resolution.
Android actually makes it very easy for developers to support different screen sizes, aspect rations, resolutions and orientations. However, it is up to the app developer to use the tools in the Android development kit to support them.
So unfortunately, without the source code, there is nothing for end users to do.
Thanks for the help and Addam specially Molome... I requested them a million times and til now they dont moved a finger to make it work for Low res phones
Hello guys, good night, how are you?
I'm currently planning on getting the Galaxy S4 I9505 but I was wondering about some things regarding the model. I'm a little bit new to the Android experience (I only had one smartphone until now, and was the Xperia Mini) and wanted to know if you guys could help me.
I am sorry if I am just at the wrong space and if there are a topic that already cover these questions, I will just read it with no problem.
Let's go:
1. I am tempted to get it transformed to the Google Play Edition, are there any way to transform it "totally", I mean, like if it was bought directly from the Google Play Store, with the original ROM and getting further upgrades via OTA?
2. I saw in some reviews that the App Menu Button on S4 is at the last position at the right side. Can I move it to the center?
3. How big it really is, and is it a problem? Could you guys give me a simple overview regarding it?
4. I saw some news around a new model released by Samsung, which comes equipped with the Snapdragon 800. If there is a way to totally transform the 9505 to the Google Play Edition as original, can we expect the same for this new model, or we can't just say that yet? I am asking this mostly because perhaps it would be best to wait for this new model (but we don't know if Samsung will release an International version), but the possibility to install the Google Play Edition on the 9505 is a huge driver actually, as the pure Android experience seems to be very, very good.
5. How "future proof" is the S4 when talking about games, as it sports a Full HD screen? That screen and the model specs are sure fantastic, but won't a Full HD screen demand much more from the GPU in the future, with newer and heavier games being released? Does it perform well today? By the way, can we change the resolution of the games on Android?
Guys, I appreciate a lot the help, thank you! :good:
Guys, how are you?
I've managed to do some search and came to the response for my first question, so as it seems for now we don't have a way to turn the i9505 to i9505G for it to behave like an original model bought from the Google Play Store, I'll just wait to see if a method to do that is figured out or developed.
Could you guys help me with my other questions?
Thanks a lot for your attention and patience!
While we do not have a way to transform fully, jamals 4.3 GE ROM is working great.
Audioboxer said:
While we do not have a way to transform fully, jamals 4.3 GE ROM is working great.
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Thanks Audioboxer, do we have any news or can we expect to get a way to transform the S4 to the Google Play Edition?
Thanks a lot for the help.
Guys I just made some search and found that some games you can actually lower the resolution, such as GTA: Vice City. Is that common on most games?
How are the graphics quality of a game played on non-native resolution?
If anyone could help me with those and the other questions, I'd be glad.
Thanks a lot!
Guys, would it be possible in any way for newer models of the Galaxy S4 to be fully transformed to the Google Play edition, if the current models gets a way to do that, or that's not likely to happen, due to the differences between those models?
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Guys, would it be possible in any way for newer models of the Galaxy S4 to be fully transformed to the Google Play edition, if the current models gets a way to do that, or that's not likely to happen, due to the differences between those models?
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1. Technically the i9505 (International S4, LTE) and i9505G (Google Edition) share the same internals like Snapdragon 600 chipset, 2GB RAM etcetc so the software is relatively interchangeable. Not directly. However, i9505 does has good development support, and there exist many ROMs that are similar to the google edition software.
2. If you flash a rom such as CM10.1, there will be options to remap the physical keys. However, if you stay with the software that came with the i9505, then you cannot.
3. "Big" is really a relative term to your hand size. I have a 22cm hand span, which is just over 7 inches, or 10 keys on a piano. Coming from the S3, I find 1 hand operation entirely possible, but to reach the very top left corner I do have to do a small shift in gripping the phone. but otherwise it is quite easy to handle.
4. No. You will be shooting in the dark and left in the wilderness if you go for the Snapdragon 800 model. Software is NOT even relatively interchangeable with the Google Play edition, unlike the i9505.
5. The S4 is not that future proof if games are to be played at 1920x1080. However, most games downscale to resolutions like 1280x720 (720p) to gain better framerates. That being said, it should still hold its ground even when more powerful devices come out.
One note though, if you are tempted to use the google stuff anyway, why not just get the Google edition?
ballsofsteel said:
1. Technically the i9505 (International S4, LTE) and i9505G (Google Edition) share the same internals like Snapdragon 600 chipset, 2GB RAM etcetc so the software is relatively interchangeable. Not directly. However, i9505 does has good development support, and there exist many ROMs that are similar to the google edition software.
2. If you flash a rom such as CM10.1, there will be options to remap the physical keys. However, if you stay with the software that came with the i9505, then you cannot.
3. "Big" is really a relative term to your hand size. I have a 22cm hand span, which is just over 7 inches, or 10 keys on a piano. Coming from the S3, I find 1 hand operation entirely possible, but to reach the very top left corner I do have to do a small shift in gripping the phone. but otherwise it is quite easy to handle.
4. No. You will be shooting in the dark and left in the wilderness if you go for the Snapdragon 800 model. Software is NOT even relatively interchangeable with the Google Play edition, unlike the i9505.
5. The S4 is not that future proof if games are to be played at 1920x1080. However, most games downscale to resolutions like 1280x720 (720p) to gain better framerates. That being said, it should still hold its ground even when more powerful devices come out.
One note though, if you are tempted to use the google stuff anyway, why not just get the Google edition?
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First of all, thank you a lot for the answers!
You really covered everything I was unsure, and I really have to thank you for taking your time to help me.
I am indeed tempted to get the Google stuff, but the reason I am considering the purchase of the model i9505 only is because I live in Brazil, and we don't have the Google Play Edition available for us, unfortunately.
I got interested in getting the Galaxy S4 as the prices lowered considerably here, the Galaxy S4 seems to be an excellent smartphone, but I wanted to make sure every question I had was answered, as the price (or "investment") is really high.
Would you mind if I ask you one more question?
Regarding the game resolution, you know that in current notebook or desktop monitors, if we don't play in the monitor's native resolution (for example, playing at 1280x720 on a FullHD panel) we experience some loss in image quality compared to a game played at 1280x720 in a monitor that is 1280x720, because that's the panel native resolution.
That happens's too with smartphones, when the game is downscaled to a lower resolution than that of the smartphone? That downscale is automatic or we have an option to do that in game's menu?
Sorry for being a little bit confusing.
That's all, and I thank you again and a lot for your patience and consideration! :victory:
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First of all, thank you a lot for the answers!
You really covered everything I was unsure, and I really have to thank you for taking your time to help me.
I am indeed tempted to get the Google stuff, but the reason I am considering the purchase of the model i9505 only is because I live in Brazil, and we don't have the Google Play Edition available for us, unfortunately.
I got interested in getting the Galaxy S4 as the prices lowered considerably here, the Galaxy S4 seems to be an excellent smartphone, but I wanted to make sure every question I had was answered, as the price (or "investment") is really high.
Would you mind if I ask you one more question?
Regarding the game resolution, you know that in current notebook or desktop monitors, if we don't play in the monitor's native resolution (for example, playing at 1280x720 on a FullHD panel) we experience some loss in image quality compared to a game played at 1280x720 in a monitor that is 1280x720, because that's the panel native resolution.
That happens's too with smartphones, when the game is downscaled to a lower resolution than that of the smartphone? That downscale is automatic or we have an option to do that in game's menu?
Sorry for being a little bit confusing.
That's all, and I thank you again and a lot for your patience and consideration! :victory:
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To be completely honest, I don't think 1280x720 resolution will really make image quality look too different on the S4. However, be aware that some games may not have the setting to change resolution, and some games may not even support that high resolution yet (but more will definitely come out).
I have a 13 inch notebook with 1920x1080 screen from 2010. It is fitted with a NVIDIA GT 330M (2010), which is only little more powerful than the HD Graphics 4000. Therefore gaming will really suck at 1920x1080.
However, with a screen that small for a notebook, I do not feel that I am losing too much when I play with 1280x720. Therefore, I can conclude that with a 5 inch phone the effect would be much less than the 13 inch notebook although you will be holding it closer.
Hope this helps
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To be completely honest, I don't think 1280x720 resolution will really make image quality look too different on the S4. However, be aware that some games may not have the setting to change resolution, and some games may not even support that high resolution yet (but more will definitely come out).
I have a 13 inch notebook with 1920x1080 screen from 2010. It is fitted with a NVIDIA GT 330M (2010), which is only little more powerful than the HD Graphics 4000. Therefore gaming will really suck at 1920x1080.
However, with a screen that small for a notebook, I do not feel that I am losing too much when I play with 1280x720. Therefore, I can conclude that with a 5 inch phone the effect would be much less than the 13 inch notebook although you will be holding it closer.
Hope this helps
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I think you're just right!
Actually, I only thought about the resolution and didn't realize that indeed with a smaller screen we shouldn't notice a loss in image quality, if any!
Thanks a lot for clarifying a lot of my questions regarding the Galaxy S4, really!
I wish the best to you and also everyone on this forum!
Cheers.