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Tampered glass vs Gorilla glass 3 discuss

Sony never disclosed name of 2 companies it is using to make screen protective glass for Xperia Z and ZL.... but my query is will it be stronger than gorilla glass 3 which is touted as "drop resistant " glass
see GG3 power here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Mm9omndlU

I heard that Sony's tempered glass is supposed to be DragonTrail glass which is supposed to come from some company called Asahi or something (or was that a beer? I cannot recall:laugh.
Anyway from what reviewers said, Dragontrail is supposed to be 5 times stronger than Gorilla glass but I've looked all over the net and have never found any further videos from this company, nor came across anyone brave enough to do a drop test with this glass or even better, do a comparison video against GG2 or even 3 (if that's available).
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There was a pretty cool demo of Gorilla Glass 3 at CES I think, which said they were comparing it 'some' competitor's glass which showed how much more powerful it was.... but after meeting so many friends with the Galaxy S3 with broken glass on the front that had cracked (sometimes as easily as a light drop at the wrong angle) I don't believe any of the GG2 adverts anymore and think they're all very carefully controlled.
Would also love to see more info on this glass and it's actual strengths!

The gorilla glass 2 on the SGS3 is abysmally poor and it has completely put me off gorilla glass, I do believe there is a drop text video on YouTube for the Xperia Z and it looks amazing
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It is either shatter proof or scratch resistant.... cant have both at same time... thanx to the screen guard that sony puts on.... this video shows it... :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GzYnDnZDRg

Sony is not using dragontrail of GG according to Sony https://twitter.com/SonyMobileNews/status/289572752229285889
I have read somewhere on a German side( through google translate and with the little German languages knowledge I posses) that they tested it and that both the protector as well as the underlying glass wasn't as strong as dragontrail, though pretty close.

I agree...
Hmmm so much for gorilla glass? Hahaha! Gorilla grass turned into monkey barbecue with the last test lol!!!
And here's for Iphone 5 drop test
And to test if it's useful for military war hahaha

When i heard a Sony representative saying that they are using 2 different companies for screen protection , I assumed that one company makes glass and other company makes that preapplied screen protector. No company name said anywhere about Z and ZL

AndroidFreud said:
I heard that Sony's tempered glass is supposed to be DragonTrail glass which is supposed to come from some company called Asahi or something (or was that a beer? I cannot recall:laugh.
Anyway from what reviewers said, Dragontrail is supposed to be 5 times stronger than Gorilla glass but I've looked all over the net and have never found any further videos from this company, nor came across anyone brave enough to do a drop test with this glass or even better, do a comparison video against GG2 or even 3 (if that's available).
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There was a pretty cool demo of Gorilla Glass 3 at CES I think, which said they were comparing it 'some' competitor's glass which showed how much more powerful it was.... but after meeting so many friends with the Galaxy S3 with broken glass on the front that had cracked (sometimes as easily as a light drop at the wrong angle) I don't believe any of the GG2 adverts anymore and think they're all very carefully controlled.
Would also love to see more info on this glass and it's actual strengths!
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jameslfc5 said:
The gorilla glass 2 on the SGS3 is abysmally poor and it has completely put me off gorilla glass, I do believe there is a drop text video on YouTube for the Xperia Z and it looks amazing
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Riyal said:
I agree...
Hmmm so much for gorilla gass?
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I agree SGS3 was too much bad even when with gorilla glass 2... but discussion is about gorilla glass 3... which is stronger... and sony does not name company or technology it is using for screen protection in current generation.... that will make people lose trust

nikhiltanwar said:
I agree SGS3 was too much bad even when with gorilla glass 2... but discussion is about gorilla glass 3... which is stronger... and sony does not name company or technology it is using for screen protection in current generation.... that will make people lose trust
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Hmmm there are 2 reasons I could think of why they disclose this info...
1. It's a lie! There is no company and sony themselves is just the one making the glass.
2. They find the glass maker company great and decided to keep it a secret to avoid letting other manufacturers use the same glass.

Riyal said:
Hmmm there are 2 reasons I could think of why they disclose this info...
1. It's a lie! There is no company and sony themselves is just the one making the glass.
2. They find the glass maker company great and decided to keep it a secret to avoid letting other manufacturers use the same glass.
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yes i think its some company co owned by sony or something like that.
Xperia go was pretty strong in terms of drops n all... while Xperia S was not that much strong comparatively...Both were listed protection "scratch resistant glass"...i have no idea about Xperia T and V because they were not released in my region..... point is when they dont tell us what device is made up of what and where it can survive , how will people come to know.

Riyal said:
Hmmm there are 2 reasons I could think of why they disclose this info...
1. It's a lie! There is no company and sony themselves is just the one making the glass.
2. They find the glass maker company great and decided to keep it a secret to avoid letting other manufacturers use the same glass.
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Apple doesn't disclose who is making the glass for the iphone. and I think to do that as to make it easier to switch supplier or use multiple suppliers, so that is the third option
a forth option is that they really just use tampered glass and not a alkali-aluminosilicate type of glass used by dragontrail, gorilla glass and scott's Xensation.
if they do use a alkali-aluminosilicate glass or similar I think it could be Xensation glass as this is the only one not ruled out by Sony (that I know of)

Sony said they won't comment on supplier - it doesn't translate into "it's not Dragontrail". Maybe it is, maybe it's not. Most companies hide that - look at Samsung products - in some cases people believe that SX/Note X are using GG, but it hasn't been confirmed anywhere.
I honestly believe they used the best possible option - you don't build a full-glass phone, advertise it as super-durable, and build it from some cheap non-resistant glass.
Also, i really find comparisons to Gorilla Glass pointless and in my opinion GG is not that great to say the least. Had S2, Note 1 and Note 2 - all using GG1/2 and all of them got scratched pretty easily - friend's S3 shattered after waist-high drop, so we're not really amazed by it. I know, GG is good to have - but not having it is really not a problem, if you drop it on pavement - it will break. If it doesn't it's most likely because of good border/chassis shock absorbing properties, and not glass toughness itself. Look at Lumia 820 - people were moaning because it doesn't use GG, and it turned out that Nokia's solution is equally good.
So, Dragontrail would be great - if it's not, i still believe it will be quite durable. Tempered glass is used in automotive ( windshields ) and it survives A LOT of damage thanks to its shatterproof film and tempering. I think it might turn out pretty good - and if it turns out it breaks as easily as every other phone, then Sony will have a real reputation loss due to its advertising.

Akiainavas said:
Sony said they won't comment on supplier - it doesn't translate into "it's not Dragontrail". Maybe it is, maybe it's not. Most companies hide that - look at Samsung products - in some cases people believe that SX/Note X are using GG, but it hasn't been confirmed anywhere.
I honestly believe they used the best possible option - you don't build a full-glass phone, advertise it as super-durable, and build it from some cheap non-resistant glass.
Also, i really find comparisons to Gorilla Glass pointless and in my opinion GG is not that great to say the least. Had S2, Note 1 and Note 2 - all using GG1/2 and all of them got scratched pretty easily - friend's S3 shattered after waist-high drop, so we're not really amazed by it. I know, GG is good to have - but not having it is really not a problem, if you drop it on pavement - it will break. If it doesn't it's most likely because of good border/chassis shock absorbing properties, and not glass toughness itself. Look at Lumia 820 - people were moaning because it doesn't use GG, and it turned out that Nokia's solution is equally good.
So, Dragontrail would be great - if it's not, i still believe it will be quite durable. Tempered glass is used in automotive ( windshields ) and it survives A LOT of damage thanks to its shatterproof film and tempering. I think it might turn out pretty good - and if it turns out it breaks as easily as every other phone, then Sony will have a real reputation loss due to its advertising.
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Wonder what glasses does nokia use on their old nokia 5580XM screens It's very shock proof to the point I couldn't break it.

Akiainavas said:
Sony said they won't comment on supplier - it doesn't translate into "it's not Dragontrail". .
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they said "we don’t comment on supplier names but Xperia Z uses durable tempered glass that has equiv specs to Gorilla/Dragontrail"
that's at least implying that they don't use GG or DT.
Not that I care as long as it can survive the occasional drop

stefanve said:
Not that I care as long as it can survive the occasional drop
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We all hope it will Also, I wonder how much will it cost to replace broken back of front if it does break at some point. My only drop victim was iPhone, the first "2G" one - dropped it cause some b...tch ran into me and knocked it out of my hands Sold it for half the price of working unit so it all turned out well.

Akiainavas said:
We all hope it will Also, I wonder how much will it cost to replace broken back of front if it does break at some point. My only drop victim was iPhone, the first "2G" one - dropped it cause some b...tch ran into me and knocked it out of my hands Sold it for half the price of working unit so it all turned out well.
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I imagine it will be similar to the butterfly or the one X since it uses a similar technique to eliminate the air layer between glass en panel

Akiainavas said:
Sony said they won't comment on supplier - it doesn't translate into "it's not Dragontrail". Maybe it is, maybe it's not. Most companies hide that - look at Samsung products - in some cases people believe that SX/Note X are using GG, but it hasn't been confirmed anywhere.
I honestly believe they used the best possible option - you don't build a full-glass phone, advertise it as super-durable, and build it from some cheap non-resistant glass.
Also, i really find comparisons to Gorilla Glass pointless and in my opinion GG is not that great to say the least. Had S2, Note 1 and Note 2 - all using GG1/2 and all of them got scratched pretty easily - friend's S3 shattered after waist-high drop, so we're not really amazed by it. I know, GG is good to have - but not having it is really not a problem, if you drop it on pavement - it will break. If it doesn't it's most likely because of good border/chassis shock absorbing properties, and not glass toughness itself. Look at Lumia 820 - people were moaning because it doesn't use GG, and it turned out that Nokia's solution is equally good.
So, Dragontrail would be great - if it's not, i still believe it will be quite durable. Tempered glass is used in automotive ( windshields ) and it survives A LOT of damage thanks to its shatterproof film and tempering. I think it might turn out pretty good - and if it turns out it breaks as easily as every other phone, then Sony will have a real reputation loss due to its advertising.
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Sony clearly say it is not dragontail ... some mysterious tech.... hope it turns out to be a solid thing...

AndroidFreud said:
I heard that Sony's tempered glass is supposed to be DragonTrail glass which is supposed to come from some company called Asahi or something (or was that a beer? I cannot recall:laugh.
Anyway from what reviewers said, Dragontrail is supposed to be 5 times stronger than Gorilla glass but I've looked all over the net and have never found any further videos from this company, nor came across anyone brave enough to do a drop test with this glass or even better, do a comparison video against GG2 or even 3 (if that's available).
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There was a pretty cool demo of Gorilla Glass 3 at CES I think, which said they were comparing it 'some' competitor's glass which showed how much more powerful it was.... but after meeting so many friends with the Galaxy S3 with broken glass on the front that had cracked (sometimes as easily as a light drop at the wrong angle) I don't believe any of the GG2 adverts anymore and think they're all very carefully controlled.
Would also love to see more info on this glass and it's actual strengths!
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Dude, where did you come up with Dragontail being 5 times stronger than gorilla glass? What a load of rubish. It is aparently 6 times stronger than conventional glass, and I am certain Gorilla glass is not therefore 1 times stronger than conventional glass. The Vickers hardness rating puts Dragontail behind Gorilla glass, so in theory Gorilla glass should be more scratch resistant.
Gorilla glass 3 shows hardness and ductility in action. The harder the material the more brittle it becomes under certain stressors. The more ductile the material is the more impact resistance it will have and also be less brittle. So combine the two and you have what is demonstrated buy the Gorilla glass 3 vid.
Sony aparently have already used dragontail glass in a Xperia phone, so quite likely to be the case here. I am certain that most companies are being quiet about this due to contracts standing with Corning.
Not sure why people keep referring to shattered and scratched phone screens, these technologies reduce the risk not remove it, nor do any of them claim it.

danw_oz said:
Dude, where did you come up with Dragontail being 5 times stronger than gorilla glass? What a load of rubish. It is aparently 6 times stronger than conventional glass, and I am certain Gorilla glass is not therefore 1 times stronger than conventional glass. The Vickers hardness rating puts Dragontail behind Gorilla glass, so in theory Gorilla glass should be more scratch resistant.
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Exactly, that's a mistake. DT is said to be 6 times strongen than conventional glass, not gorilla glass. Also, gorilla is probably more scratch resistant, but DT conpensates for it with extreme durability and resistance to shattering.

www.youtube.com/embed/84z_BIrLlp4?e...19209/&html5=1&autoplay=1&vq=medium&start=129
this is the video of xiaomi mi2 murdered using saw and cutters.
this phone uses dragontail glass
www.youtube.com/embed/WpbOoQpwAFs?e...ds/xiaomi-mi2-protective-glass.19209/&html5=1
this one is a lab test video of the dragontail.
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Scratch resistance - how it compares

How does the scratch resistance properties of the xperia screens compare to other mainstream phones with, say, gorilla glass 2? In the absence of any screen protectors? Please, just facts and personal experiences, no speculations.
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Trust me, you wont get any facts. Just fanboy war over here.
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tudork said:
How does the scratch resistance properties of the xperia screens compare to other mainstream phones with, say, gorilla glass 2? In the absence of any screen protectors? Please, just facts and personal experiences, no speculations.
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dragontrail suppose to be stronger then gorilla glass 2.

But is it for sure dragontail? I haven't seen any official specifics about the screen in terms of resistance. That's why I'm interested in people's experiences. I cannot stand having screen protectors on my phone but I've never had scratches on my gorilla glass phones before and I'd like to buy a xperia.
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YouTube is your friend... Go watch some torture and drop tests and compare them with other phones.. Best way to go....
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tudork said:
But is it for sure dragontail? I haven't seen any official specifics about the screen in terms of resistance. That's why I'm interested in people's experiences. I cannot stand having screen protectors on my phone but I've never had scratches on my gorilla glass phones before and I'd like to buy a xperia.
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...only time will tell, I went screen protector free for a month and I dint get any scratch but i was being careful. Xperia Active use dragontrail, go youtube drop test on those...seeems to be super strong.

Well Sony went somewhat retard on this phone, they put the most fragile cover on a tough glass. ( Look up Anti shatter film )
And you need the cover for Warranty and the sexy Sony Logo. So I'd recommend some sort of cover. (Unless you're fine without the warranty)
There's plenty of covers and they don't ruin touch sensitivity or brightness at all. I'm using Copter atm, it's all good.

Sony went wrong by applying an anti shatter film. It's ok but don't print the Sony logo on it for G's sake. I and guess quite a few others like the Sony branding. The shatter film itself scratches easily. Didn't remove it so personally can't say anything about it when it's off but one thing for certain and that is that the shatter film is not scratch resistant at all! So in case you want to buy one and want the Sony logo, I recommend using a screen protector over the ASF.
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Disappointing to be honest. My phone fell face down from a distance of about 30cm when I was getting out the car and now I have a chip on the screen (and I had a screen protector on it)
I've now had to buy a case for it as the back of the phone is scratched to hell with everyday use.
My Lumia 920 was indestructible and had plenty of drops from great heights.
I'm annoyed as I bought my Z direct from Sony for £530 at launch and now it's worthless if I want to resell it.
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GutsyTripod said:
Disappointing to be honest. My phone fell face down from a distance of about 30cm when I was getting out the car and now I have a chip on the screen (and I had a screen protector on it)
I've now had to buy a case for it as the back of the phone is scratched to hell with everyday use.
My Lumia 920 was indestructible and had plenty of drops from great heights.
I'm annoyed as I bought my Z direct from Sony for £530 at launch and now it's worthless if I want to resell it.
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You say the back is scratched? Did you put the protector that Sony put in the box, or just leave it? As people have said, the anti shatter film is very easily scratched.

warface said:
You say the back is scratched? Did you put the protector that Sony put in the box, or just leave it? As people have said, the anti shatter film is very easily scratched.
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The protector came off after about a week as it didn't adhere properly due to the NFC sticker on the back
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GutsyTripod said:
The protector came off after about a week as it didn't adhere properly due to the NFC sticker on the back
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The NFC sticker is pasted on top of the anti-shatter film. (Yes, there's a pre-applied shatter-proof screen protector in addition to the screen protectors that are already included within the box.)

Dragontail may be best than Gorilla Glass 2. I have the original protector but YouTube is your best friend.

My Z fell from a table to the floor and one of its corners got chipped, not the glass but urghhhhh... Also, Im not sure if the sides are glass but they got scratched so easily too -.-

The glass isn't very scratch proof. I took the shatter proof sheets off, and after a couple of weeks there were some very fine scratches on the glass. I'm very careful too, the phone has its own pocket with no keys, coins etc. The glass seems less scratch proof than that the front glass on the iPhone 4, and I put replacement screen protectors on pretty soon after removing the pre-applied ones.

I don't know how people scratch it so easily - I have a screen protector front and back and I only have 1 minuscule scratch on the front from my headphones. I've dropped many times too, on carpet, tile, wood and concrete from distances >50cm too. A little bit of care goes a very long way, it seems.

iDroid8 said:
I don't know how people scratch it so easily - I have a screen protector front and back and I only have 1 minuscule scratch on the front from my headphones. I've dropped many times too, on carpet, tile, wood and concrete from distances >50cm too. A little bit of care goes a very long way, it seems.
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I'm talking about the sort of very fine scratches you can only really see in strong sunlight, and wouldn't notice under normal usage. My Xperia had about as many scratches of that kind after a few weeks without a screen protector as my iPhone did after two years. It doesn't really matter which of us is the more careful, because I was equally careful with both phones and the front glass of the iPhone was a lot more scratch resistant in my experience.

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I'm talking about the sort of very fine scratches you can only really see in strong sunlight, and wouldn't notice under normal usage. My Xperia had about as many scratches of that kind after a few weeks without a screen protector as my iPhone did after two years. It doesn't really matter which of us is the more careful, because I was equally careful with both phones and the front glass of the iPhone was a lot more scratch resistant in my experience.
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I agree with the above statement.
We're talking about the kind of scratches that other people would claim do not exist on their phone. Then when i take it look i can see them.
I got given an iphone 4 from work a couple of years ago. As i did not spend any money on it i wasn't anywhere near as careful with it as i have been with my Z.
I would quite often have my iphone in my pocket/bag along with other items. I dropped the phone on concrete paving quite a few times because i would pull the phone out of my pocket using the headphones wire. I didn't care.
As i bought my Z i have been very careful with it to the point of ocd. Nobody else has touched it. I keep it in its own pocket at all times. When i take it out i put it on top of a cloth ( work and home desk). It has never been dropped.
After two weeks the screen on my Z had as many of these micro scratches as the iphone had after two years.
Thankfully they are the kind of scratches that are not visible unless at a certain angle under intense light. But i am gutted as i really like the look and feel without the antishatter. I added a crystal clear spigen protector and it is now impossible to see them.
Luckily i am getting a new one from work, so i will give this one to my dad and this time i will remove the antishatter (i prefer the look without the logo) and install the spigen protector straight away.
Not very scientific and maybe luck plays it part, but i thought i would share my personal experience.

My Z has a load of very fine scratches (only visible in good light, at a fine angle) right at the point my right thumb unlocks the screen, all in the direction I swipe the screen.

So it does sound like the screen is not so strong as other phones with gorilla. Officially, it is not known what kind of scratch resistant this glass is (so no need to repeat Dragontail, Sony does not say anything about Dragontail. Or Gorilla). This will not stop me from buying this phone (or other Xperia) but it sounds like I do need to look for a good screen protector. There is no way I can put a screen protector on top of the already placed shatterproof film, I think this is simply ridiculous, having two screens on top of the glass. But I have never had a screen protector and I have been pretty careful with my phones and my motorola razr maxx (Gorilla 1) looks perfect after one year (no mini scratches either), so I guess I will have to get used to having one with a Sony phone. Thanks for all the opinions!

Am I the only one impressed by Gorilla Glass 4?

Am I the only one impressed by Gorilla Glass 4? I find the Glass on the Note 4 more resilient to the elements than its predecessors. Do we really need screen protectors on this beauty?

arjun90 said:
Am I the only one impressed by Gorilla Glass 4? I find the Glass on the Note 4 more resilient to the elements than its predecessors. Do we really need screen protectors on this beauty?
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Yes we do.
Today I was very dishearted to notice a few micro scratches on my screen.
So now I have to buy a screen protector as I prefer using the phone naked. I was hoping to not buy one because the phone is so beautiful and glass protectors are so expensive, but compared to the amount I will have to pay to get an insurance claim on the phone, it's cheap. I am so disappointed in myself. I love my phone very much and thought I was taking very good care of it, but I guess I wasn't as careful as I should be. I bought into the hype of GG4 and not it's going to cost me.

Owed my Note 4 since its release with no screen protector and far not one scratch.
But in fairness I'm usually good about not getting scratches on my phone. Im always aware when I put it in my pocket making sure I have no keys for items that will cause scratches.

No scratches here. I'm rocking the tech 21 impactology case (most of the time), no screen protector.
I've had this note 4 since the 3rd day they were out.

I will always use a screen protector...for the sole fact that its a biatch to keep it clean lol

I was able to buff out the micro scratches. Still looking for a good screen protector though.
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Glad you got the micro scratches buffed out. We sell a lot of these:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields

Keep a screen protector on. It helps with the resell value.

Can't allow even the slightest scratch to impede my vision while watching movies on the moon... so yes, I use protection.

Temetka said:
I was able to buff out the micro scratches. Still looking for a good screen protector though.
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How did you buff them out?

Guys just use the glass protector

They were really hard to see so I just kept rubbing the area with a micro fiber cloth for about 30 minutes. They are still there but you have to put the phone real close to your face with light coming from the side.
I found a $25 tempered glass screen protector today after work at a mobile phone store. There is a halo effect, but I feel much better now. I'm still looking at this one though.
http://www.moshi.com/ivisor-glass-for-galaxy-note-4#black
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Is the camera glass Gorilla Glass? Cause I got a pretty big gouge on it. Luckily it is off center.
Yeah, about the micro scratches...are they just a scratch on the coating of the glass? Wait, does the glass have a coating?

SiNJiN76 said:
Is the camera glass Gorilla Glass? Cause I got a pretty big gouge on it. Luckily it is off center.
Yeah, about the micro scratches...are they just a scratch on the coating of the glass? Wait, does the glass have a coating?
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Camera is not gorilla glass.
BAD ASS NOTE 4 + BAD ASS GEAR S

shook187 said:
Owed my Note 4 since its release with no screen protector and far not one scratch.
But in fairness I'm usually good about not getting scratches on my phone. Im always aware when I put it in my pocket making sure I have no keys for items that will cause scratches.
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The micro scratches most likely come from pieces of sand in pockets. They can do a number on a display.
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Temetka said:
They were really hard to see so I just kept rubbing the area with a micro fiber cloth for about 30 minutes. They are still there but you have to put the phone real close to your face with light coming from the side.
I found a $25 tempered glass screen protector today after work at a mobile phone store. There is a halo effect, but I feel much better now. I'm still looking at this one though.
http://www.moshi.com/ivisor-glass-for-galaxy-note-4#black
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Doesn't toothpaste cover small scratches? Might wanna try that.

There is always this debate with every new phone. I got a few micro scratches in the first month of owner ship. Just like every other device. Better safe than sorry because unless your screen is made of diamond resistant is not the same as scratch proof.

Lol screen protector is not expensive . Got me a pair of 6 really good ones I love them came even tell they are there. DO NOT BUT ANTI GLARE. It ruins the beautiful display. Got mine for $13 from Amazon.
ROLL THAT SHT, LIGHT THAT SHT. SMOKKKKE THAT SHT
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Used tempered glass through out my note 3. Bought one for my note 4 till it got nasty. Got some regular ones that supposedly they are made for AMOLED display and RETINA.
ROLL THAT SHT, LIGHT THAT SHT. SMOKKKKE THAT SHT

Im impressed by it . . . I I dropped my phone on the train platform after stepping out the train with sview case. Screen was still flawless.
Needless to say I did but an otterbox as my commuter and save the s view when I wann abe sexy.
Overall the note 4 drop test versus nexus 6 really shows the strength of CGG4.

The tmobile screen protector is pretty decent, they are $18 but they will usually discount to $10. Most important it does not impede vr gear. After a week of use the protector smooths out and is completely unnoticeable to touch. For gear s I use the Iq screen protector and it's flawless

I got my Note 4 home, examined and admired it's beauty, and then put it in an otterbox defender!!! Better safe than sorry!

Gorrila Glass ???

Does this phone have Gorrila glass protection ?

No. It doesn't. It just has 2.5D curved glass in front. No gorillla glass.

BTW everyone uses Tempered Glass nowadays, doesn't matter if its Zenfone Max Pro or Galaxy S9 alongwith Protective Case. So it won't make any difference.
And you can buy Complete protection for a whole year only for RS 49 and thats nothing if we compare to our daily expenses.

ra_si said:
BTW everyone uses Tempered Glass nowadays, doesn't matter if its Zenfone Max Pro or Galaxy S9 alongwith Protective Case. So it won't make any difference.
And you can buy Complete protection for a whole year only for RS 49 and thats nothing if we compare to our daily expenses.
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The screen damage protection is included in the complete protection? To be more precise I want to know if somehow the screen breaks or gets a scratch it will be replaced for free if I buy the complete protection?

No Gorilla Glass... But they dropped it from 2-3 meters high when they test it on the factory

dimedevil said:
No Gorilla Glass... But they dropped it from 2-3 meters high when they test it on the factory
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how do you this information?

No gorilla glass. Scratch the screen if you won't believe this.

jithutty said:
Does this phone have Gorrila glass protection ?
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No Gorilla Glass as ASUS has already confirmed amidst the speculations, but, BUT, it has a special screen protection by ASUS which they claim isn't bad at all, of course, it ca't be compared with the Corning Gorilla Glass as yet. I don't know the quality of that screen's protection but ti should be better than a normal screen of course..
Moreover, this shouldn't really be a big concern as most users will have a tempered glass protection on top. So nothing to worry about.

how do you this information?
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Because I was invited by ASUS to visit their factory in Batam... I see it with my own eyes

SumitGupta2442 said:
The screen damage protection is included in the complete protection? To be more precise I want to know if somehow the screen breaks or gets a scratch it will be replaced for free if I buy the complete protection?
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Yes, if its dropped or gets broken then its covered. Not for Scratches though. BTW who asks for screen replacement for Scratches.??

So screen protector / tempered glass still needed ?
or the screen is safe without it.
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Mister_Fire said:
No Gorilla Glass as ASUS has already confirmed amidst the speculations, but, BUT, it has a special screen protection by ASUS which they claim isn't bad at all, of course, it ca't be compared with the Corning Gorilla Glass as yet. I don't know the quality of that screen's protection but ti should be better than a normal screen of course..
Moreover, this shouldn't really be a big concern as most users will have a tempered glass protection on top. So nothing to worry about.
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So screen is already protected right ?
I'm bad English.

The screen is already strong enough, asus already testing it in their factory (in batam), slamming it from 2 meters high using robot, and the screen doesn't crack at all!

For someone who might want to see the video.
Skip to 14:28 if you want to see the slamming method.
I will still put TG/screen protector though, it is much cheaper and make me sleep better.

scratch resistance and impact resistance are two dirrerent things. Impact resistant glass would not mean its scratch resistant. If the phone falls down on screen, it might not shatter, but through daily use, you'd probably get scratches easily. Better get a good quality tempered glass for protecting against scratches.

gusbalaa said:
So screen protector / tempered glass still needed ?
or the screen is safe without it.
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So screen is already protected right ?
I'm bad English.
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This phone needs a 5D tempered glass for full protection i guess... Anyone know any such glass for this device?

Glass isn't gorilla for sure
But it's durable
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Desmanto said:
For someone who might want to see the video.
Skip to 14:28 if you want to see the slamming method.
I will still put TG/screen protector though, it is much cheaper and make me sleep better.
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Yup this makes me happy

Which insurance or website gives for 49bucks?
Link please...

gusbalaa said:
So screen protector / tempered glass still needed ?
or the screen is safe without it.
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So screen is already protected right ?
I'm bad English.
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Just buy a tempered glass on Tokopedia, it's dirt cheap and costs like around 20k Rupiah (which is the cheapest) and around 100k for the most expensive. Better safe than sorry imo, also the stock screen from what I've heard only provides the oleophobic coating so the more reason to get an extra layer of protection.

.hack//G.U. said:
Just buy a tempered glass on Tokopedia, it's dirt cheap and costs like around 20k Rupiah (which is the cheapest) and around 100k for the most expensive. Better safe than sorry imo, also the stock screen from what I've heard only provides the oleophobic coating so the more reason to get an extra layer of protection.
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I'm using Nilkin Tempered Glass, around 100k rupiah also on Tokopedia. Best screen guard i ever use.

gusbalaa said:
I'm using Nilkin Tempered Glass, around 100k rupiah also on Tokopedia. Best screen guard i ever use.
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Good choice mate :good:

[S10+ ceramic black] Screen scratches

Hi all,
I've used the S10+ black for 1 week now and found several micro scratches and one slightly deeper one on the front already. No screen protector, but treated the same way as my S8 for 2 years. The s8 has spent time with keys and other stuff in my pocket, yet nothing happened to the screen over the years. The S10 though...
Whats your experience so far?

The S10 plus comes with a pre installed screen protector. Is the scratches on the protector or you removed it? And the Gorilla glass 6 is pretty soft and scratches at 6 hardness. So you need one if you removed the screen protector by mistake.

ddeath said:
The S10 plus comes with a pre installed screen protector. Is the scratches on the protector or you removed it? And the Gorilla glass 6 is pretty soft and scratches at 6 hardness. So you need one if you removed the screen protector by mistake.
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Yes, I've removed the protector, of course. As I did with all the Galaxy models in the past. I wasn't aware it was "needed" for this model? That'd be a new one. I mean,. people said about the Gorilla 5 it'd be softer (with the S8 2 years back) and indeed, it didn't take hits from nothing. If I can believe Gorilla's website, the 6th gen is supposed to be better scratch resistant than the 5th.

GG6 being softer (to resist breakage) but more scratch prone is a concern of mine. 1 week in I have still not removed the screen protector.

LOL, so we can drop it from an airplane and pound it with a sledge hammer, but don't put it in your pocket with spare change.

Pandur2000 said:
Yes, I've removed the protector, of course. As I did with all the Galaxy models in the past. I wasn't aware it was "needed" for this model? That'd be a new one....
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No wonder.. Too bad, this is an actual real screen protector installed by Samsung, not the usual flimsy plastic film that covers a new phone. This was mentioned in the news. I also did not know about it but I did not remove it when I first got the phone as I realised it was a screen protector after looking at the quality of the film.

Look at the s8 and s10 durability test videos on the JerryRigEverything channel
The durability test videos on the JerryRigEverything channel show that both the s8 and the s10 screens start scratching at level 6.
The most logical explanation of what happened to you is that your s10's screen got in contact with a material harder than anything else your s8 encountered before.

aslg said:
The durability test videos on the JerryRigEverything channel show that both the s8 and the s10 screens start scratching at level 6.
The most logical explanation of what happened to you is that your s10's screen got in contact with a material harder than anything else your s8 encountered before.
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Well, it hasn't. Maybe its faulty. I will return it due to faulty display durability and order a new one ?* Thank the EU & Germany for customer rights and laws in this regard. But BTW; it was almost the same with my Galaxy Watch. The bezel was very susceptible to scratches. Sent it in to Samsung and they replaced the whole display incl. bevel for free. So... Maybe Im just very unlucky.

S10+ screen scratches
My husband and I both purchased the s10+ and both phones have micro scratches on them. This Gorilla glass is not as good as previous samsung models. And, NO, the phones did not come with a screen protector.
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Just checked the phone and found there is a screen protector on the phone. Apparently this is the reason there are so many micro scratches which I cannot clean.

I took mine off because it had deep scratching and replaced with a tempered glass protection, which was good for a month until it fell off last week. Luckily I have no scratches yet, although I'm very cautious of which pocket I put my phone in and never put anything else along with it. Doesn't mean there's no micro scratching I can't see though.

Newer generations of Gorilla Glass became less scratch resistant in favor of greater drop protection because Gorilla Glass doesn't currently know how to maximize both. Drop protection was given higher priority when smartphone bezels started to disappear and many owners were cracking the displays on their expensive new phones the first time they dropped them.