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HTC risked itself unnecessarily with the 4 ultrapixels camera

I think HTC could have been a big contender to the galaxy S IV but will be dismissed by the average consumer because of the "poor" 4 ultrapixel camera, i dont get how a company struggling to sell would do such a thing , i love that they took a risk but maybe they should have waited until they had profits again, what do you think people is going to do when they go to buy a phone and see that the camera on the one is "just" 4 megapixels vs 13 megapixels on the galaxy S IV?
8 ultrapixels would have been great, also the daylight pictures are less than spectacular, the one x/xl takes better pictures at daylight ,lets see how turns out for HTC, i fear it wont be the best outcome :crying: , such a shame that "the best" will lose

So far seeing pictures taken against the iPhone 5, Galaxy S4, etc... I think they made the right choice. It takes some really nice pictures.

You are ignorant, HTC One along with Lumia taking the best photos in market at the moment. before coming up with a topic like that learn to check to results please.
But yeah, one thing is clear, people like you will think "hmm, 4 mp is bad i should get S4 because of that" and get S4. That is the only downside of the idea. Which I'm hoping wouldn't be a problem because noone is telling that it is 4 mp, they are marketting it as Ultrapixel Camera as a whole phrase, which is working relatively well.

You are right. While the tests seem to show, that the camera is really awesome and isn't worser than the 13 MP one the majority of people are still getting their phones direct from the store and deciding basically from the specs and the general appearance. I hope HTC will profit at least from their design and aluminium body this year.

Only ignorant consumers purchase items based on just numbers...
Education is key.

Many reviews show that its the second best on the market, after 808 and just beating the N95. Lesser pixels are also needed to process in the Zoe mode. So my conclusion will be it isn't a "poor" or "unnecessary" change. In fact, it's proving to be one of the best cameras (obviously if you don't print your photographs in full size)
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Dharkan said:
You are ignorant, HTC One along with Lumia taking the best photos in market at the moment. before coming up with a topic like that learn to check to results please.
But yeah, one thing is clear, people like you will think "hmm, 4 mp is bad i should get S4 because of that" and get S4. That is the only downside of the idea. Which I'm hoping wouldn't be a problem because noone is telling that it is 4 mp, they are marketting it as Ultrapixel Camera as a whole phrase, which is working relatively well.
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That true no one has told me its a 4mp camera in shops, they say 4 ultra pixel.
Also when I played with the phone and compared pics to the xz and and s3 etc it blew them away which is one of the reasons there is a lovely silver HTC One sitting on my desk charging right now.
Also regarding charging, battery life for me so far is great: seeing as I had to send stuff to the phone yesterday it got charged to 61% before I took if off the usb at aprrox 1.30pm yesterday and started using it: screen 30% bright, power saver on, all connections off unless I need them, playing some music, generally looking at the phone, a bit of internet browsing, mostly phone calls and texts and the battery was on 6% at about 10 am this morning and I went to bed at 2am.
Btw the this is the same pattern i do for all phones I have 30% brightness and power saver. I will be able to properly judge when its actually charged to 100% though and compare it to my others phones bar the note 2 where it will clearly lose.

Actually there is still noise in the images on the 4MP sensor, but less than a 13MP for sure in low light.
HTC made a deliberate decision that a phone camera is more utilized to pictures of family, friends when you go out somewhere like a restaurant, bar etc. In those circumstances good low light performance is essential and you don't need (in fact you don't want) to see the highest resolution possible on people's faces etc
You only really need 13MP when you are shooting landscape. In the case of Sony, they try and incorporate a camera that is more aimed towards tourist pictures. During the daylight, the resolution advantage will be clear to see on detailed scenes.
Personally, I do not use my phone as a replacement for a good camera. I use it exactly as HTC considered, incidental photos when out with friends and to keep memories of those occasions.
Having said that, it is not the best 4MP sensor...it should really have been even better (less noise). So while I think HTC did play a gamble here, and to some extent, there is a good amount of logic behind their decision...the implementation is still not as good as I would have hoped. It is just possible that software updates will improve its performance further.

R89SONY said:
which is one of the reasons there is a lovely silver HTC One sitting on my desk charging right now.
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Amen!

jonstatt said:
Actually there is still noise in the images on the 4MP sensor, but less than a 13MP for sure in low light.
HTC made a deliberate decision that a phone camera is more utilized to pictures of family, friends when you go out somewhere like a restaurant, bar etc. In those circumstances good low light performance is essential and you don't need (in fact you don't want) to see the highest resolution possible on people's faces etc
You only really need 13MP when you are shooting landscape. In the case of Sony, they try and incorporate a camera that is more aimed towards tourist pictures. During the daylight, the resolution advantage will be clear to see on detailed scenes.
Personally, I do not use my phone as a replacement for a good camera. I use it exactly as HTC considered, incidental photos when out with friends and to keep memories of those occasions.
Having said that, it is not the best 4MP sensor...it should really have been even better (less noise). So while I think HTC did play a gamble here, and to some extent, there is a good amount of logic behind their decision...the implementation is still not as good as I would have hoped. It is just possible that software updates will improve its performance further.
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The noise problem was with prerelease software, if you see the photos now, there's way much less noise
From USA Gizmodo:
Another pleasant surprise: the camera's UltraPixels actually live up to the hype. In our testing the One performed as well as if not better than the top smartphone shooters out there (check out our comparison). It also took better low-light (read: in bars) photos than any phone I've used, and I was extremely impressed by how accurate the color rendering was. Now, if you're planning on printing your photos on 8x10s, maybe you'll miss the extra megapixels, but who really does that with their phone cam? For the web, you won't be able to tell the difference in resolution, and you will be able to tell the difference in low-light.
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Check out the photo thread

NiCk.JaY said:
The noise problem was with prerelease software, if you see the photos now, there's way much less noise
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I have one...I still see some noise. I am not saying it is bad. Just I guess I had such high expectations that it would take super clean images.

jonstatt said:
I have one...I still see some noise. I am not saying it is bad. Just I guess I had such high expectations that it would take super clean images.
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Have you updated it to the latest version? Because the pics from Gizmodo, Engadget, Verge are superb

SteelH said:
Only ignorant consumers purchase items based on just numbers...
Education is key.
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This. Also quality beats quantity!
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NiCk.JaY said:
Have you updated it to the latest version? Because the pics from Gizmodo, Engadget, Verge are superb
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There is no update. I definitely have the most current release on the phone. I think it was just my expectations were too high. Don't get me wrong, it takes great pics.

I think that it will be very important for in-store signage of the HTC One show the comparison of the HTCs photo quality against "the others". They can't leave it to the uninformed general public or the uninformed sales staff to simply look at point form notes on the phone spec

AW: HTC risked itself unnecessarily with the 4 ultrapixels camera
And... Megapixels are nothing. It is all about the sensor and the lense. It is time to stop that Megapixel hype... Just look at the S4... 13mp on a damn small sensor, I guess you will not see a difference between my 1S and the S4...
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4mp should of NEVER been banded about because in work people were going 'Omg the HTC ONE only has a 4mp camera.... who would want that' and then you have to explain it to them etc....
It was a risk but it should of just been left at 'Ultrapixel' and not compared to a megapixel count.

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I personally as a Photographer like their decission.
Remember the Foveon X3 Chip. If HTC manages to get something more out of that technique, they will get much better results.

At first saw no difference with the quality from the x. Now after a few dozen photos. There is a difference.close up shots capture loads of detail
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First of all, I think that HTC from the quality point of view made the right decision. The camera appears better than sufficient - for the ordinary smartphone user that is. HTC's approach is different, I think: Remember "Friend Stream" in Sense? Now it is "Blinkfeed". My impression is that HTC bets on that users will shoot more photos if the photos can be uploaded to FB and other social networks quicker and thus in bigger numbers thanks to their smaller size. Photos go up easier to the Dropbox storage, too. The camera with 4 megapixels only is really more usable.
In the end the photo quality debate is a "luxury issue", the "ordinary" customer will not see a quality issue in the images. But the fact that he/she can really easily share their photos shot with the One - which they in real life can't with photos from their Samsung and other phones due to the sheer size of the images - this must be communicated to the customer. In addition, 32 GB built in storage on the One due to the difference in size of the camera's images in real life equal 50 GB storage on the Samsung.
To my opinion, therefore the success of the HTC One is not so dependent on the question whether 13 megapixels are better than 4 (or vice versa), but on the question whether they succeed in explaining the potential of smaller image files to the masses. My serious concern is, that even HTC and their marketing people are not aware really, what HTC's development department had in mind.

HTC One vs. Samsung Galaxy S4 stabilization test

Htc one again
I think for sure i will keep my order on the htc one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfqeuY_dWmE

Ouch...
S4 looks very bad (also, what's up with the color)? But the comments are even funnier - some people are really butthurt.

the comments are funny..
apart from that.. the video on the one looks excellent
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AW: HTC One vs. Samsung Galaxy S4 stabilization test
Brilliant device... Got the one for 5 days now and I'm really impressed! Just everything is gr8!
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The comments are funny, but my need to tell all these **** the facts is hard. I made this post for them:
"Ok people, read.
1. This video is posted by GSMArena. They don't post fake stuff.
2. GSMArena always gets devices early, it's been like this for years.
3. The S4 is not zoomed in, the HTC One has a wider lens, hence you see more.
4. The HTC One has OIS (Optical Image Stabilization), the S4 has only Digital Image Stabilization at best. That's something that also makes a big difference.
These are all facts. In video, the One wins. But photo's will surely look sharper on the S4."
They think it's fake & that the S4 is zoomed in... lol. :") The video on the One looks good, but it's more fun to see the S4 fans cry lol. And they should, at least based on this comparison.

XDA mark said:
The comments are funny, but my need to tell all these **** the facts is hard. I made this post for them:
"Ok people, read.
1. This video is posted by GSMArena. They don't post fake stuff.
2. GSMArena always gets devices early, it's been like this for years.
3. The S4 is not zoomed in, the HTC One has a wider lens, hence you see more.
4. The HTC One has OIS (Optical Image Stabilization), the S4 has only Digital Image Stabilization at best. That's something that also makes a big difference.
These are all facts. In video, the One wins. But photo's will surely look sharper on the S4."
They think it's fake & that the S4 is zoomed in... lol. :") The video on the One looks good, but it's more fun to see the S4 fans cry lol. And they should, at least based on this comparison.
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Thats good news

Man, what a difference. I don't even think my s3 is that bad compared to the s4 or maybe just never realized it?
The One definitely takes the cake here.
Sent from a galaxy far away!

Well every day I feel better about having choose the One as my next phone

I find these camera reviews to be so subjective, I've seen the GS4 video on other sites and it looks better than the HTC One. Also the GS4 image stabilization was never that bad, maybe they have it turned off or something and have weird settings. You could tell they were moving the GS4 faster than the HTC One as well...
Like I said these comparisons are bull****.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x802Nfiz6Dg
Now the HTC One and GS4 are both in there somewhere...
We'll find out which phone is which at one stage.
What I have noticed however is cameras are rather subjective, there is no "best" camera.

slannmage said:
You could tell they were moving the GS4 faster than the HTC One as well...
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This was a side by side comparison.
They were moved at the exact same time at the exact same speed.
The lack of image stabilization ability the Galaxy S 4 portrayed in this video is what made it appear faster :beer:
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It's funny how the S4 forums here in XDA has a lot of vs HTC One threads. Looks like S4 is really threatened.

notsointeresting said:
This was a side by side comparison.
They were moved at the exact same time at the exact same speed.
The lack of image stabilization ability the Galaxy S 4 portrayed in this video is what made it appear faster :beer:
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Didn't Samsung say it had Image Stabilization? I thought I've seen this in several reports too, what's weird is they've said on that site that the GS4 has better low light performance and yet many other sites say otherwise.
I think it's all rather subjective atm to how people set up the settings, I mean if they were both on default it could explain why as my 808 by default has image stabilization off and produces horrible low light pictures and is only 5MP......
It's no good have stuff on default settings, you need to set the camera up to the situation and produce the best pictures the phone allows you.
I'm not buying either of these phones, I'm more inclined to go the HTC One cause it looks nicer, that said I'm not impressed by either of them.
Yeh in fact on the GS4's list of specs for the Camera...
Primary 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Features Dual Shot, Simultaneous HD video and image recording, geo-tagging, touch focus, face and smile detection, image stabilization, HDR

marchitecto said:
It's funny how the S4 forums here in XDA has a lot of vs HTC One threads. Looks like S4 is really threatened.
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This is the HTC One forum and not the S4 forum

which one should i go for one or s4?? which is better???

tejkkarani said:
which one should i go for one or s4?? which is better???
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get both and return the less favored in 7 days. :good:

Clear winner from gsm arena battle: HTC One :good:

vegetaleb said:
Clear winner from gsm arena battle: HTC One :good:
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Yeah but the quality of that looks strange. My S III and Note II both had much better quality than that so I will not give the victory to the One just based on that When I get mine in my hands I will decide myself

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[Video] - HTC One vs Lumia 920 OIS Test

Howdy guys & gals, ever since getting the HTC One I had a lot of requests to put it head 2 head with the Lumia 920 in a video test, to see if the OIS on both are comparable.
Well i finally did it yesterday and managed to get the footage edited and uploaded today.
The HTC One seems to develop a clicking / popping sound every time it is put into Final Cut Pro X, not sure why.
I know this is the HTC One section so most people here will be HTC One fans, but what do you think is better ?
The Lumia seems to take it's time finding the correct lighting and the One seems to have an issue showing the clouds fully without them being fully white.
I'll let you make up your own mind

Both pros and cons.
Htc one lets in more light compared to the lumia. You can see the clouds on the lumia but not on the htc one.
Im going to have to slide with the one. Video is much more stable, more bright, and quality wise its not blurry compared to the lumia.

expertzero1 said:
Both pros and cons.
Htc one lets in more light compared to the lumia. You can see the clouds on the lumia but not on the htc one.
Im going to have to slide with the one. Video is much more stable, more bright, and quality wise its not blurry compared to the lumia.
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HTC One...its not even close.

Makes me very happy I ordered the One and not the 920(was thinking about it)

Great video comparison Sam, left a review on the comments. . .same name!
Both pros and cons, but i find the One looks more realistic with the Lighting and Colour. . .

Thanks
I am really shocked at how dark the lumia was
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:good:That was a cool test.

Nice video. The Lumia image stabilization is pretty poor. I thought it would do a better job. I thought overall, sans the clicking/popping, the One overall was better.

your videos' comment sections start to get a little annoying with all those
"Super Epic Galaxy S4 Giveaway" thing going on

I find it so weird that the One seems to be far more stable. The Lumia 920 has this rather nasty jello effect going on that is seriously affecting quality.

Wow! The htc one destroyed it!
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townay said:
your videos' comment sections start to get a little annoying with all those
"Super Epic Galaxy S4 Giveaway" thing going on
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Tell me about it ....
I've tried to get them to stop, but alas they don't seem to listen! lol
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Great video comparison Sam, left a review on the comments. . .same name!
Both pros and cons, but i find the One looks more realistic with the Lighting and Colour. . .
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Much appreciated and I agree both have pro & cons it really depends what you want in the camera.
I also just posted a Galaxy S3 vs HTC One test as well

Interesting considering other reviews the Nokia did better... Maybe the HTC is better with vibrations but larger movements like walking the Nokia handles better?
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Which update were you on? Does updates affect ois sensitivity?
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townay said:
Which update were you on? Does updates affect ois sensitivity?
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1.28.401.7 for the HTC One
8.0.9903.10 on the Lumia 920

Another good Video Comparison Sam, the Samsung is just like the Nokia though, quite dark, i still prefer the Ones video. . . i think this will actually be hard to beat on that quality! However, as much as i hate to say this. The S3's audio is better. Its not got as much Base as the One, which i find more realistic. . . But then im not in your car so i dont know how it sounds, does your car sound quite basey? Only you can answer this one my friend lol

audio on the S3 wasn't as good to me... the One cut out the wind/road noise present.

Just showed your video to my wife. She said and I quote " the 920 looks like an old cheap crap phone". She said that HTC One was miles better. Better stabilization, better light. She was well impressed with the One. Thought the 920 was ****.

Hello Sam buddy
To my eyes it appears that it's a matter of exposure.
The 920 seems to be doing a very good job of exposing the sky. It shows very good detail of the clouds, but is under exposing the road. Anytime you go downhill the road is then "lit up" (much brighter) which I assume is because the land is then taking up a much bigger chunk of the overall picture so exposing that part becomes the priority?
The One seems to be the reverse. It is focusing on the road so the sky portion of the image is very over exposed. It is very difficult to see any decent cloud detail but road/foliage looks very natural, bright and clear, if maybe a little washed out.
When going downhill the 920 seems the better picture to me. Better shadow detail, more vivid skies etc.
Not really sure how to end this post. It just leaves me wondering how the Nokia would react to the exact same test on a very bright, sunny day. Would it still focus on the sky and cause even more under exposure of the road?
One last thing.... What happens if the 920 is "aimed" down a little further? I'm guessing it would then concentrate on exposing the land more than the sky?
Too late. Bed
Thanks for the test.
P. S. Apologies for not mentioning stabilisation which is what the test was all about!
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The Best Phone of the Year...killed by a poor camera

I was really excited to see the spec for the M8.
The spec turned out pretty decent, but the camera.....unbelievable. How can a smart phone be shipped with a poor camera....a flagship smartphone that is.
The Galaxy S5 and the Z2 among others will absolutely kill this phone in sales.
The build of the M8 is beautiful though.....such a huge mistake with this poor choice of camera for the 2nd year running,

you are missing the point.

if you dont have the phone you shouldnt post in here. if you have it and face any problem with the camera you are welcomed. do you think HTC is dumb to create such thing? the desire have 13mp camera if HTC believes that 13MP of desire is better for the one they wouldnt hesitate to apply it to the HTC one too! but this phone with this poor camera you claim won many prices for the best phone of 2013 and now its featured in DUAL camera. this thread should be closed and users who are creating useless threads should be BANNED!!

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you are missing the point.
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I hope so.
Please elaborate.
Over the past 4 years or so, I have came to very heavily rely on my smartphone camera, i think almost everyone has. Yeah sure I have a great Compact digital camera and also a great DSLR .
But i always have my smartphone with me. The other cameras only get an outing about twice a year!

gaz_0001 said:
I was really excited to see the spec for the M8.
The spec turned out pretty decent, but the camera.....unbelievable. How can a smart phone be shipped with a poor camera....a flagship smartphone that is.
The Galaxy S5 and the Z2 among others will absolutely kill this phone in sales.
The build of the M8 is beautiful though.....such a huge mistake with this poor choice of camera for the 2nd year running,
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The camera in m8 does not have optical image stabilization like the m7.
No OIS equals blurry pics unless you walk around with a tripod.
For the moment I am happy with my m7.
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if you dont have the phone you shouldnt post in here. if you have it and face any problem with the camera you are welcomed. do you think HTC is dumb to create such thing? the desire have 13mp camera if HTC believes that 13MP of desire is better for the one they wouldnt hesitate to apply it to the HTC one too! but this phone with this poor camera you claim won many prices for the best phone of 2013 and now its featured in DUAL camera. this thread should be closed and users who are creating useless threads should be BANNED!!
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I hope so.
Please elaborate.
Over the past 4 years or so, I have came to very heavily rely on my smartphone camera, i think almost everyone has. Yeah sure I have a great Compact digital camera and also a great DSLR .
But i always have my smartphone with me. The other cameras only get an outing about twice a year!
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OP, do you have the phone? Can you provide examples of this poor camera? If so, we'll gladly reopen the thread. Otherwise, conjecture based upon what you've read about the phone isn't really helpful.
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HTC One M9 Camera Compared to that of the iPhone 6

The camera is the one thing that worries me the most when I think about whether or not to get the M9 and the more samples I see of it the less convinced I am (even more so when I see Galaxy S6 samples). I really am keen to see full reviews of the device to be sure...
http://goo.gl/sLuJR2

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The camera is the one thing that worries me the most when I think about whether or not to get the M9 and the more samples I see of it the less convinced I am (even more so when I see Galaxy S6 samples). I really am keen to see full reviews of the device to be sure...
http://goo.gl/sLuJR2
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Once more: the HTC One M9 does not have final software. The quality will improve as it has in the last couple of days.

MoonRaven said:
Once more: the HTC One M9 does not have final software. The quality will improve as it has in the last couple of days.
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I know, which is why I say I'm waiting for the full reviews to come out.

The camera has never been a stong selling point on the HTC One. If this is very important to you, then i definitely would go with the S6. Considering all the pros and cons, the HTC One M9 is still the best fit for me.

On the plus side the iPhone looked better than BOTH the M9 and the GS6. The GS6 shots were too warm while the M9 shots just weren't good. They are mediocre, which is unfortunate and sadly reminds me of using a Sony Xperia Z3 in terms of color reproduction, clarity and image.
Good sigh of relief that Samsung's camera can be good with tweaks versus the iPhone you can take out and just point and shoot.

M9 seemed to have higher than usual exposure settings resulting in slightly whited out images (especially the first one in that link), nothing that can't be corrected software side by proper calibration - at this stage I wouldn't be concerned about the camera.

I'm sure that everyone will be happy their M9 cameras (rear and front ). Not sure if it could best S6 but iphone 6 will not be an issue.

Have both s6 edge and m9 on order, and hope and think they will do better with final software. Use the iPhone 6+ as my daily device atm and the camera is very solid. So even with the new "camera" or optics I think both HTC and Samsung have to work to beat the iPhone, as it just do good pictures most of the time and easy and fast camera ui/focus.
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Am I the only one that thought the M9 was better than the iphone in that link the op posted?

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Am I the only one that thought the M9 was better than the iphone in that link the op posted?
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Glad you said that, I thought it was just me, apart from the one of the news stand, which on my monitor appeared quite blurred, verging on out of focus even, I just preferred the "look" or feel of the HTC pictures. In all honesty, none of them are poor at all and I would be happy with using any of them as daily shooters to be fair.

One hopes that both
Samsung and HTC don't increase the price by another 10k like they did last year..........actually if they do then Note4 suddenly becomes a interesting option..
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I read most of the comments before I saw the photos.
To be honest I didn't find and big differences between iPhone and M9 and I was expecting bad photos from the iPhone.
Having in mind that the iPhone has a final software and also that Apple always auto-enhances its photos, I don't see any problems with M9 in these samples.

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Am I the only one that thought the M9 was better than the iphone in that link the op posted?
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I was at the Philadelphia Flower Show last weekend taking photos with my test M9. At least two iphone users admired the shots I took and the screen on the device.

Any improvements with the M9 screen compared to M8?

vegetaleb said:
Any improvements with the M9 screen compared to M8?
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Yes, the M9's screen is markedly better than my M8. It's the same pixel density, but it's more bright, and does not wash out as much outside as the M8's can.

hgoldner said:
Yes, the M9's screen is markedly better than my M8. It's the same pixel density, but it's more bright, and does not wash out as much outside as the M8's can.
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Nice!
You still have the M9? if yes did you get updates that improved the camera quality?

vegetaleb said:
Nice!
You still have the M9? if yes did you get updates that improved the camera quality?
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We get FOTA's every 36-48 hours (thankfully, not requiring a full factory reset). The camera algorithms have improved stability and quality steadily since I first started with the unit in January. This past weekend's shots were exceptional.

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We get FOTA's every 36-48 hours (thankfully, not requiring a full factory reset). The camera algorithms have improved stability and quality steadily since I first started with the unit in January. This past weekend's shots were exceptional.
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Thanks! :good:
Can you compare with the S6 samples we can see online?

vegetaleb said:
Thanks! :good:
Can you compare with the S6 samples we can see online?
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Not really. Comparing photos online is a variable of what monitors are being used, etc. The pixel densities don't match, the shots have to be of the same subjects. I haven't seen the S6 samples, I can only compare images between my M8, an HTC Re, and a Nexus 7

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Not really. Comparing photos online is a variable of what monitors are being used, etc. The pixel densities don't match, the shots have to be of the same subjects. I haven't seen the S6 samples, I can only compare images between my M8, an HTC Re, and a Nexus 7
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Are the one's of the m9 better?