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I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really
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I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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Not really mate, I find it very useful.. I did have Verizon version, I just flashed the UK generic firmware and now it doesn't matter.
koitsu1010 said:
I'm getting a bit put off by this forum, I'm finding very little useful info here I'm using a Verizon play not a Rodgers or any other carriers version I think the Verizon play needs its own forum so siffting though all the junk that does not apply to me and my phone just to get one post that I can use I mean it sucks anyone agree?
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It would get a bit mad if every provider got his own board... I'm getting annoyed with all the verizon talk that's going on. But since a lot of things are universal I wouldn;t want the boards to get split up.
Just don't open threads that state that they are for the R800i or for the rogers version.
The reason why you find few useful info about the R800x is quite simple: nothing has happened: no root, no unlocked bootloaders, nada.
You USAns should exert real pressure on your carrier cartel so that you don't get different models per carrier instead of whining about other people discussing their phone.
Hey be happy you get Vanilla Android.
kidding yea it can be frustrating when the Rogers model launched I was frustrated because their was no information or anything about it here because the European model was already launched.
Give it some time it will all get sorted out soon besides there is nothing yet for the Verizon Play.
I expect root to arrive soon because most newer android handsets like the Droid3 haven't been rooted yet and even european and canadian plays can't be rooted at 2.3.3 unless you use the loophole through 2.3.2 but your device launched with 2.3.3 so that is where the problem is.
Are device came with 2.3.2 thats how lame we are
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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American wants his own forum.
However I am sure there will be heaps of talk and ability to unlock the bootloader etc with the AT&T version.
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Nice, listen I don't bag on your country I just find it a little odd other divices have Verizon sup forums but not the play if you have nothing nice to say then dont
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There isn't any because there is nothing you can do for it presently? But I understand your frustration, going through hundreds of threads that is irrelevant to yourself is a huge waste of time.
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Development is off to a slower start for the VZW Play but it will pick up eventually.
Just be thankful the members of this forum aren't always saying "Search before posting noob!" like the rest of the forums out there.
adb shove iPad2post.apk to /forum/thread
Ya I go into the android development section only to check the r800x root thread to see if there is an update, but I don't mind having a combined board. Just hope root comes soon.
We do not need a separate forum for one model of the Xperia Play.
The only real difference between the Verizon model and the rest is GSM and CDMA.
Verizon's model came with 2.3.2 on it but there is something blocking the Gingerbreak exploit from working, All you can do it be patient and hope that the Verizon versions see's some attention.
You cant go into every thread demanding an answer or wanting something outrageous to be done about the phone. Doing that will just piss off current Dev's and could ultimately hurt it for everyone.
Just sit back, relax, have fun with your phone, donate to help convince the devs to help us out, or complain. your call, but the last option will just get people ignoring you.
They now have the droid incredible 4G LTE forum at the bottom of the page . Go check it out there working on unlocking bootloader already .
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Really?? I have been stopping by over there about once a day or every other day and trying to follow when the phone is gonna be in stores and also the thread on Verizon killing grandfathered unlim data.
I didn't realize they could work on the bootlloader stuff if the phone isn't even out yet? Maybe I missed something, my bad if that's the case, but thanks for letting us know the other forum is up and running
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Really?? I have been stopping by over there about once a day or every other day and trying to follow when the phone is gonna be in stores and also the thread on Verizon killing grandfathered unlim data.
I didn't realize they could work on the bootlloader stuff if the phone isn't even out yet? Maybe I missed something, my bad if that's the case, but thanks for letting us know the other forum is up and running
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My guess would be that he saw the thread with "unlocked bootloader" in the title and assumed people were working on it before actually reading the thread (or maybe I'm missing something?). I agree with you that I don't think they can really work on unlocking the bootloader without actually having the phone.
You can root and unlock the device without actually having it. I was just reading (Android Police) how someone with a leaked copy of the Galaxy S3 software was close to rooting and unlocking it.
edit: Aren't all HTC devices unlockable anyways? HTC has their development website where you can unlock devices and most are included soon after launch.
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You can root and unlock the device without actually having it. I was just reading (Android Police) how someone with a leaked copy of the Galaxy S3 software was close to rooting and unlocking it.
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Interesting.
I still think that the way Alton worded it, it seemed like he was saying that somewhere in the Inc 4G forums people were working on it, which I don't believe is true (at least I can't find it). But your point is valid.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/s7-s7-edge-root-t3321556/page16 Look there and you'll see it looks like root has finally been achieved. Sounds like they installed the newest TWRP and then using that flashed supersu. It does trip Knox though. I'm about to head off to work so I can't test this now but it looks promising.
Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
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For those of you with G930FD, G930T, G930W8, G930P....be patient, I'm waiting for Samsung to release the kernel sources. The trees are already ready, just waiting on kernels...
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Yeah source code is out for g930f & g935f but as that op says:
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Well, I guess I shouldn't have opened this thread then. That's what I get for trying to think that early in the morning.
sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6
rmyc said:
sweet, i have my s7 on the charger waiting for the root so i can switch over from the s6
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Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.
Yeah. I wouldn't count on anything any time soon. Not days, not weeks....
If you want a root able device. I would suggest taking the phone back.
Ummmmm, do you guys know what's going on with root on the US versions?
http://www.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7-bootloader-lock-explained-you-might-not-get-aosp-after-all/
Yes that's old news.
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Yes that's old news.
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Then perhaps a change in thread title is worth considering until the situation changes :good:
start a facebook group to pressure samsung to release the lock,??
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Looks like you may be charging that thing for a while, then. Seems that even the T-Mobile version is subject to the plague that is the locked bootloader for right now. Hopefully someone can figure something out or Samsung releases something along the lines of HTC's bootloader unlock for us. For once, the Snapdragon appears to be more crippled than the Exynos.
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What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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MacTheRipperr said:
What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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Ummmmm, no.
Galaxy S7 Bootloader Lock Explained: You Might Not Get AOSP After All | XDA Developers
ROOT DISCUSSION - R.I.P. Sticky Root Guide - SM-G935T -> STATUS -> LOCKED BOOTLOADER
Unless John Legere at TMO can sway the powers-that-be at Samsung to unlock the bootloader for the G930T/G935T (and supposedly he's trying), nobody will be rooting any time soon.
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What are you talking about? T-Mobile has an unlocked boot loader. It's been confirmed dozens of times. Where are you getting your information from?
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You must not get on here much. This is the biggest story lately and the reason why everyone is mad/frantic.
TMOBILE locked the bootloader John is playing us after 14 days when return period is up he will tell you guys Samsung said no its has nothing to do with Samsung it's the u.s carriers with the new leasing programs, warranty exchanges, and unauthorized tethering...They are losing money from phones which have been rooted
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I understand everyone being upset about the latest development but some need to calm down a bit. Not saying it's anyone in this thread though some comments are a bit over the top. Maybe some people are new around here or others have the memory of a goldfish but this isn't' the first time this has happened to a device. There are a multitude of ways around this. Motorola who is known for locking bootloaders with almost a hatred for consumers, was defeated with the combined effort of many people on XDA. They managed to find the key to unlock the bootloader and it was smooth sailing from there.
Will we obtain the key? Quite possibly. we'll either do it the hard way and get lucky running a program on multiple computers and phones to decrypt it. The other option is that it'll be leaked by an internal source (probably the most likely). Samsung might even give us a dev program to unlock it similar to HTC. The fact is Samsung doesn't want a large customer base to be this unhappy. We are the most influential consumer base as well. Think of all the changes and additions to Android over the past few years. Changes that started here first and were adopted by manufacturers. They use us and in a way, need us to show them what people want. Let's not forget that XDA is the most influential Android site on the net. If Samsung gets snuffed here badly it'll spread very quickly.
TL;DR It'll happen one way or another guys. Chill out. May not be in the time frame we're use to these days (remember waiting weeks to months for root back in the day?) but it will happen. focus on pressuring those who can exact change into doing so. For the ones capable of it you should focus on ways around this.
I for one am not worried. I had a Motorola Defy that had a locked bootloader. By the time I had bought the phone though it had been out for a few months and people had found a way to put custom roms on it so I was happy.
At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit ?
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At least I know I'll be able to keep my Samsung pay around for a bit
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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.
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lol I use my bank debit card and 2 credit cards. Not a one works with Samsung Pay. But all 3 work on Google Wallet.
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How does Samsung pay or Google wallet work? How would I know which retailer supports it?
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This thread should be completely deleted.
Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone cares to go here and comment to John Legere please do.
https://twitter.com/fordjt/status/754483458869604352
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Didn't know where else to post this but if anyone cares to go here and comment to John Legere please do.
https://twitter.com/fordjt/status/754483458869604352
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Hmm. What an interesting idea.
But we already have tons of those petitions, e-mails, telephone calls, personal letters, legals requests, etc.
So in other words... your idea has already been done... with no luck.
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Hmm. What an interesting idea.
But we already have tons of those petitions, e-mails, telephone calls, personal letters, legals requests, etc.
So in other words... your idea has already been done... with no luck.
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Roger that. I guess this can be closed then. Just outta curiosity, do you know if this is going to be the new norm? I'm on an international S7 Edge so it doesn't currently affect me, but I would like to have my wifi calling back. Have a brand new TMO S7 Edge just getting dusty.
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Roger that. I guess this can be closed then. Just outta curiosity, do you know if this is going to be the new norm? I'm on an international S7 Edge so it doesn't currently affect me, but I would like to have my wifi calling back. Have a brand new TMO S7 Edge just getting dusty.
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More than likely, yes, it will be the new norm.
There is an incredibly small chance that Samsung will go back to sending Tmo phones with unlockable bootloaders, but I would definitely not hold my breath. This is assuming that John Legere and Tmo actually did ask Samsung for an unlock like they said they did, and that Samsung decides to go back to how they used to ship the phones. Both of these scenarios are pretty unlikely by themselves, and even less so together.
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More than likely, yes, it will be the new norm.
There is an incredibly small chance that Samsung will go back to sending Tmo phones with unlockable bootloaders, but I would definitely not hold my breath. This is assuming that John Legere and Tmo actually did ask Samsung for an unlock like they said they did, and that Samsung decides to go back to how they used to ship the phones. Both of these scenarios are pretty unlikely by themselves, and even less so together.
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I'm sure they discussed it. It was likely shot down as soon as it was brought up though.
I'd bet that even if we were to ask today they'd say "We're still working on it. These things take time."
I'd bet that even two years from now they'll say the same thing too because they don't want the negative publicity. Any response starting with an "Unfortunately" won't ever be in our benefit which is all that they'll be responding with if we were to get any straight forward answer at all.
Samsung is grossly underestimating the willpower and determination of their customers. We were determined to get root and now we have it! Samsung should see that, be smart about it and decide to give us what we want. Meanwhile, if I let someone check out my (rooted) S7 Edge and let them notice how hot it is, how much the battery life sucks and how bad the lag is on most games (all due to the engineering kernel that we're forced to use) then I'd doubt very seriously that most people would want to get it. So my way of thinking is that they might as well let us flash unsigned kernels to at the very least let the phone run like normal. I've awed more people with my phone before rooting than after. I've actually shown it to my supervisor and she responded, "Why the Hell is it so hot?" I'm guessing she's not going to be upgrading now.
why Samsung can not do like HTC who wanted the opened Bootloader why torture people .
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why Samsung can not do like HTC who wanted the opened Bootloader why torture people .
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But then HTC could probably sue Samsung for using their idea. LOL!
I really doubt any of this will affect Samsungs decision to unlock. This is a great device stock and each who drops Samsung 2 will buy their devices. There is nothing out there that would persuade me to root even though TEKHD has a custom rom and our device has a method to root. Just my 2cents
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PapaMag said:
I really doubt any of this will affect Samsungs decision to unlock. This is a great device stock and each who drops Samsung 2 will buy their devices. There is nothing out there that would persuade me to root even though TEKHD has a custom rom and our device has a method to root. Just my 2cents
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Samsung won't be releasing an unlock unless it could positively effect their assets. Right now, their assets are Samsung Pay and Knox. Both of which require a secured bootloader to work. By releasing an unlocked bootloader or an method to unlock would do nothing positive for those assets. Truth is, there is nothing to gain for Samsung to release the bootloader for us so they won't be doing it. I'm certain of it.
diligent7771 said:
why Samsung can not do like HTC who wanted the opened Bootloader why torture people .
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Because Samsung has probably the best device they've ever made if not the best device currently on the market
Because Samsung S7/Edge devices are outselling the iPhone 6S/Plus
Because 99.99999% of people don't know what a bootloader unlock is, much less care about having it
Because Samsung Pay
Because a secure device enables government and corporate contracts
Because Samsung is making a ton of $$$ on these devices as they are
Because Samsung is totally OK with losing a small handful of people to HTC/Nexus devices when they can capture a much more lucrative market with a more secure device
There are likely many more reasons, but hopefully that answers why we don't have an unlocked bootloader and why we will never have an unlocked bootloader.
So with the bootloader locked, there is no way at all to install custom recovery or custom rom???
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So with the bootloader locked, there is no way at all to install custom recovery or custom rom???
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No custom recovery. We can flash with Flashfire though. Only problem is that if something doesn't work right then you'll have to restore with Odin since we can't restore with a recovery and can only access Flashfire after the phone has already booted.
John Legere is big user of Twitter and other active social media. We should flood his inbox and social media with requests for getting this phones bootloader unlocked. He promised to help with the last one and should be more than willing to help put traction on this.
revulv said:
John Legere is big user of Twitter and other active social media. We should flood his inbox and social media with requests for getting this phones bootloader unlocked. He promised to help with the last one and should be more than willing to help put traction on this.
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Honestly I don't think John Legere can do anything about Samsung bootloaders now days. Think about it, Samsung expended millions of dollars in their Samsung pay and Knox all together. Samsung doesn't want unlocked bootloaders at least on the USA market due to once you unlocked your bootloader the majority of people root their phones, once you unlocked your bootloader and root your phone you tripped the efuse, once you tripped the efuse, Samsung pay and Knox is not going to work.
Believed or not Samsung pay is very popular here in USA, and Knox is very successful on businesses and corporations.
Believe me, Samsung doesn't want to loose all those profits, from the investment they did on Samsung pay and Knox program, at least not for a handful of people here at XDA. We are probably only 1% or less of samsung customers.
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This has been tried in the past with samsung phones to no avail.
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This has been tried in the past with samsung phones to no avail.
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Correct. We tried this many times before tovno avail. They straight up ignore us.
Ugh, when? Because the first time it got so much traction the dev bootloader was released, wasnt it? I actually work for T mobile and follow John religiously. If enough people ask, he will put Samsung on blast.
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Ugh, when? Because the first time it got so much traction the dev bootloader was released, wasnt it? I actually work for T mobile and follow John religiously. If enough people ask, he will put Samsung on blast.
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It didn't work with S7 and S7 Edge, it won't work for S8 nor S8 plus
Loving the enthusiasm here. You guys are a bunch of optimists! Definitely seeing how things get done around here.
Also, root and debloated roms were available for the S7 and Edge because a developer bootloader made it's way onto the internet. Now, I'm not sure t mobile had anything to do with that, but the ground work and traction John laid help make that possible.
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It didn't work with S7 and S7 Edge, it won't work for S8 nor S8 plus
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Yes it will, maybe of we keep doing it, he might get something started by the time the s13+ come along. Eventually, he'll be like "For those guys at xda....."
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Yes it will, maybe of we keep doing it, he might get something started by the time the s13+ come along. Eventually, he'll be like "For those guys at xda....."
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Hope so
Nothing lost in trying, no sense in crapping on it before even trying. Worst case samsung says no, best case John succeeds and we very the dev bootloaders with a legal disclaimer absolving samsung and tmo from responsibility. But asking needs to happen to KNOW the end result.
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John Legere is big user of Twitter and other active social media. We should flood his inbox and social media with requests for getting this phones bootloader unlocked. He promised to help with the last one and should be more than willing to help put traction on this.
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Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
The best fix is too late for those who have foolishly purchased another TMo branded phone - get a 955f. There are no bootloaders locked over there - they would not put up with it.
Custom ROMs have KNOX and android pay working, and saftynet passed on S7s and most of it already working on S8's
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Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
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If you think there was a meeting in which he decided not to unlock the bootloader of a device, you're probably wrong. He's a CEO, not a phone security expert. Someone else made the call, and there isn't any real corporate reason to even reconsider it.
The international models don't support WiFi calling which is s big deal for those of us traveling internationally.
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Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
The best fix is too late for those who have foolishly purchased another TMo branded phone - get a 955f. There are no bootloaders locked over there - they would not put up with it.
Custom ROMs have KNOX and android pay working, and saftynet passed on S7s and most of it already working on S8's
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Don't let him fool you - I think he is close to 100% responsible for the locked US Tmo bootloaders. He only pretended to try and help last time. I got the same runaround from him/them on service issues related to their press releses that all towers were upgraded last fall.
The best fix is too late for those who have foolishly purchased another TMo branded phone - get a 955f. There are no bootloaders locked over there - they would not put up with it.
Custom ROMs have KNOX and android pay working, and saftynet passed on S7s and most of it already working on S8's
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What do you mean they have KNOX working? I thought rooting disabled KNOX.
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What do you mean they have KNOX working? I thought rooting disabled KNOX.
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It was shielded by some mods.
However, it looks like Samsung has further tightened up KNOX and it is not working again.
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The international models don't support WiFi calling which is s big deal for those of us traveling internationally.
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Wi-Fi calling works on many custom mods- it is mostly a matter of using the correct CSCs. I used it yesterday.
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We've done this the last two years... Legere will hear your complaint bug do nothing... He claims it's a Samsung issue
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