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Is my phone defective (battery)

Bought it almost a week ago and the main reason for switching from iPhone was the battery life was supposed to be jaw dropping.
I'm very disappointed. I have almost no non stock apps (just social media ones) and I'm not impressed. These results are actually some of the better ones. Usually I only get 2.5 hours of screen time.
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Apps that are non stock: Facebook, Reddit, Snapchat, Twitter, and Instagram.
Should I return it? I mean I also run with No location, no bluetooth, and brightness as low as it can go.

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fffft said:
If you have given up on the S5 period, sure. If you mean that you think your particular phone is defective, then no. There is no evidence whatever that your phone is defective. The S5 battery life is in fact very good. But like all things it varies because everyone uses their phones differently..
Your figures of 14 hours battery life (2.5 - 3.5 hours screen on) are on the low side for a S5, but hardly abysmal. If you do a bit of tweaking and update some apps or your firmware, I have no doubt that you could almost double that. Battery life is variable, depending on what apps you have installed and how you use your phone. Some apps like Skype or Tunein are notorious battery hogs. As is leaving wifi on when the wifi signal is weak or non existent.
Your post gives an impression of you having unrealistic expectations. Nevertheless, if you are still happy, then return it and get a different phone model. But there is nothing wrong with your handset and trying to exchange it for another S5 won't change anything. It just needs a bit of tweaking. If you play with the settings a bit you should be able to get ~ 20 hours, including 5 - 8 hours of screen time, rather than your current 14 /3. Use that as a benchmark for how you want to proceed.
If you want a better idea if you apps are the issue, then temporarily uninstall all of your third party apps. Then see what difference it makes running only stock apps for one day.
S5 battery stats thread
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I'm unsure what you want me to tweak.
I have locations turned off, bluetooth turned off, and brightness as low as it can go
In terms of apps installed I only have the following non verizon stock:
Reddit sync
facebook
twitter
instagram
snapchat
Given whats installed and what is already disabled I think this battery life is pretty bad. My gf gets 4+ hours of screen with more apps installed and still 40%+ battery on her S5

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fffft said:
It's not rocket science. You're on the lower normal end of battery life, about what one would expect for a heavy user or a phone that has hasn't had much optimization done. If you do a simple search for threads on how to optimize battery life and read for a few minutes, you'd have all of the tools you need to improve your battery life 50 - 100%.
If you're somehow still unhappy, that's on you. We've tried to make constructive suggestions but you seem to expect spoon feeding or magic. The S5 with minimal tweaks has exceptional battery life. If you want to improve your battery life, make the effort to do a bit of reading in existing threads. Or go ahead and exchange your S5 for some other model. And you can gripe about the battery life for that one too.
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It's clear there isn't an easy fix otherwise you would just say it.
I never even wanted a different model I was questioning whether my particular s5 is faulty. As my gf keeps location and WiFi on all day with tons of apps and gets almost 2x battery life. She doesn't read anything about tweaks so Im not sure why you keep saying that. In fact I doubt she has ever gone into the battery settings menu to even know what kind of time she is getting.

Battery Life Issue (Is this normal battery life)

I've been noticing my battery has been draining a lot lately, and the majority is going to Android System. I did a search and found another post about this with no answers. I'm not getting much more than 12 hours on a daily basis, and I hardly use my phone. I'm including a screen shot of the battery usage. Is this a normal usage amount? I remember this phone being better on battery than this.
What are you guys getting for typical usage?
Anyone have any suggestions?
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philc21 said:
I've been noticing my battery has been draining a lot lately, and the majority is going to Android System. I did a search and found another post about this with no answers. I'm not getting much more than 12 hours on a daily basis, and I hardly use my phone. I'm including a screen shot of the battery usage. Is this a normal usage amount? I remember this phone being better on battery than this.
What are you guys getting for typical usage?
Anyone have any suggestions?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q4axktwglfqg4ac/Screenshot_2014-10-23-21-11-07.png?dl=0
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as of yesterday, I'm seeing the same problem. Didn't have short battery life before that but several apps updated yesterday morning and now I have something like 50% on Android System and an unusually high "Stay Awake" - we're talking something like 10 hours when I wasn't using the phone for anything in particular - certainly not 10 hours worth!
So, I'm wondering how we tell what is keeping a phone awake?

usually we need more info such as what rom your using and when it started to happen..
second post might be one of the apps thats causing it so id backtrack them n see if u can find the culprit
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also, better battery stats on xda is your friend.. android system can be a ton of different things
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I had big time battery issues when I was running NI2, and similar to what you were seeing Android System and Kernel, my battery would be nearly drained after about 10 to 12 hours. I rolled back to NE9 and my battery is back to being great I am usually at about 60% after about 10 hours. For what it's worth apps and programs were the same between both builds. Not sure this is much help just figured I'd share my experiences and what worked for me.

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I had big time battery issues when I was running NI2, and similar to what you were seeing Android System and Kernel, my battery would be nearly drained after about 10 to 12 hours. I rolled back to NE9 and my battery is back to being great I am usually at about 60% after about 10 hours. For what it's worth apps and programs were the same between both builds. Not sure this is much help just figured I'd share my experiences and what worked for me.
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This was the solution I feared. I'm having massive battery drain on NI2 as well. Unfortunately, won't we lose "HD Voice" or VOLTE if we roll back to NE9? Not a deal breaker I guess.
It's really too bad Samsung/Verizon broke the phone with an update. This is seemingly pretty common now. Hope another small update gets released soon. I'm on international travel starting Friday and having a phone dead by 3pm doesn't sit very well with me.
-Collin-

CollinFX45 said:
This was the solution I feared. I'm having massive battery drain on NI2 as well. Unfortunately, won't we lose "HD Voice" or VOLTE if we roll back to NE9? Not a deal breaker I guess.
It's really too bad Samsung/Verizon broke the phone with an update. This is seemingly pretty common now. Hope another small update gets released soon. I'm on international travel starting Friday and having a phone dead by 3pm doesn't sit very well with me.
-Collin-
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Yes, you will lose HD Voice / VOLTE unfortunately. That was a sacrifice I had to take I couldn't deal with my phone being dead by 5:00pm.

agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.

CollinFX45 said:
agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.
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it is what it is.. there are ni2 roms with great battery.. few have reported battery drains but not me.. ive tried a few ni2 roms and not had a battery drain since before ni2
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CollinFX45 said:
agreed. Yesterday was a complete joke. By 2pm with light use, I was down to 21%. Dead by 3:30.
I hate that I have to flash my phone back to a prior version because Verizon/Samsung broke it.
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Wake lock detector and greenify are your friends...

My about phone.

so, after posting the second post in this thread I'm happy to post that my battery consumption returned to normal by the next day. I don't know what was going on but I'm still on NI2 and regular battery consumption - what I've been used to seeing on the phone all along.
that said, it's great to know about some of the apps that are available for better tracking/info about wake-locks and battery use.

New G2 owner: battery issue, screen question

Hi folks, I just got a new LG G2 from eBay at this link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171429816155#rwid
I have not used it at all really. It was at 0% battery when it arrived. I charged it, set up my Google account, and left it sitting pretty much. I am concerned about the rate of decline of the battery. I am on still on 4.2.2.
I have heard great things about the battery on the phone, that it can last two days with normal to heavy use and that the battery is a real advantage to this phone.
I have noticed my battery declining at a rate of about 5% per day. I am just letting the phone sit. Everything is off: Wifi, location services, Bluetooth, etc.
The battery settings say the weather widget used 80% of the battery for its GPS queries even though I disabled location services. So I just deleted the weather widget off of the home page but the rate of battery decline seems the same.
I don't have a SIM card in the phone yet so I am wondering if there is energy being used looking for a cellular signal?
I thought maybe the phone might have been sitting on the shelf for a while and the battery has degraded since it is an older phone. Maybe I need to use the battery through a few cycles to optimize its performance.
I was weighing this versus a Samsung S4. I am wondering how people think about this versus the S4 in regards to screen and battery.
Any advice or experience you have about this battery issues I would greatly appreciate. Thanks.

5%/24h= 0.2083333333% per hour seems normal to me but you can try to do a factory reset and make some charging cycles and analyze again the battery info.
LG G2 D802 20G Full Stock

xda-soar said:
Hi folks, I just got a new LG G2 from eBay at this link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/171429816155#rwid
I have not used it at all really. It was at 0% battery when it arrived. I charged it, set up my Google account, and left it sitting pretty much. I am concerned about the rate of decline of the battery. I am on still on 4.2.2.
I have heard great things about the battery on the phone, that it can last two days with normal to heavy use and that the battery is a real advantage to this phone.
I have noticed my battery declining at a rate of about 5% per day. I am just letting the phone sit. Everything is off: Wifi, location services, Bluetooth, etc.
The battery settings say the weather widget used 80% of the battery for its GPS queries even though I disabled location services. So I just deleted the weather widget off of the home page but the rate of battery decline seems the same.
I don't have a SIM card in the phone yet so I am wondering if there is energy being used looking for a cellular signal?
I thought maybe the phone might have been sitting on the shelf for a while and the battery has degraded since it is an older phone. Maybe I need to use the battery through a few cycles to optimize its performance.
I was weighing this versus a Samsung S4. I am wondering how people think about this versus the S4 in regards to screen and battery.
Any advice or experience you have about this battery issues I would greatly appreciate. Thanks.
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strange that your phone comes with 0% battery...thats really not good on the battery, to keep it at 0% for a long period of time=/. But as the above user said, 0.2% per hour is good i guess

Guys, thanks for the feedback. I gave my phone its second full charge and it has been sitting doing nothing for 6 hours and it is still at 100%! So I am happy, that seems reasonable to me. Maybe the battery had to get conditioned or something. I will update if I collect any more stats or I see anything more odd with the battery. I am going to stick with this phone over the S4. Enjoy your G2's folks.

If you aren't using any sim card then I would suggest you to definitely activate air plane mode, because the phone itself is looking for some sim signal every while.
Moreover you should check which synchronization settings are activated. For me I am only using email and contacts synchronization, but there are a lot more.
There are also some GPS settings when you go to your Google account settings, that you should turn off, so that the phone doesn't try to send your location to Google by checking your WiFi. Even when your WiFi is deactivated.

Which LG G2 model, D802?
Hi,
I found the same seller listing on ebay, wanted to ask you, did they really sent you an LG g2 d802 international version. I ask since i found out the many times sellers list this phone as d802 only because its unlocked but on reality is a different model (d801, d800).
By the way how is that phone working for you, all went well?

Kitkat has better idle (according to GSMarena G2 battery test), so you might want to upgrade. Also, give it about a week to calibrate the battery. Battery life is phenomenal on the G2. I usually get 80+ hours battery life with about 4 hours SOT and 15% battery left.
EDIT: just realized this is an old thread...

Hi..... This is my current battery life...calculated 2 daya ago.. Bought this phone in nov 2013.
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This is calculated with data network on for 90% of the time.
Very less wifi usage.
Gps off.
Screen brightness auto.
Eco mode on after 30%.
Battery saving on after 30%.
OS cloudyG3 2.1.
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without screen time, post like this are useless.

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without screen time, post like this are useless.
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Hey sorry, forgot to mention that... On CloudyG3 2.1 sadly, you can't see the screen on time ... But , yes it was less, Say 20 or 30% of the time. I was using Whatsapp, hike and other messengers and attending calls too. :silly:

vrkamath2020 said:
Hey sorry, forgot to mention that... On CloudyG3 2.1 sadly, you can't see the screen on time ... But , yes it was less, Say 20 or 30% of the time. I was using Whatsapp, hike and other messengers and attending calls too. :silly:
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cludy g3 2.1 does allow you to see sot details
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demonoid phenomenom said:
cludy g3 2.1 does allow you to see sot details
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Lol...my bad... I did not check that... I'll calculate the battery one more time and post it.... Thanks mate for showing that...
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Coming from Sony z2 and im bit dissapointed about the S7E Battery Life

Hello,
First i have to say i really like that Phone looks and feels very nice, changed a bit the ui and rly like it actually but...
The Battery Performance is very poor between a z2 and a S7e,
sure i know better screen bigger/faster cooler but when i see my old z2 can handle 2 (40 to 50 hours) days without charging and i get 400mah bigger battery in a s7e and only get around 20-24h from it thats very poor.
I hope they get something like the Stamina mode from Sony which is learning what you do on your phone to safe more battery, actually the Power saving mode gives me 1 more hour...
this phone is 2 years old now and perform so much better in battery stats thats just unbelievable.
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I get about 15 hours if that makes you feel better..lol

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I get about 15 hours if that makes you feel better..lol
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.... thats so strange 2 years later 400mah more and empty in ~15-20hours thats a joke...
whats when i go travelling at arrival the phone is off....

Jaglag said:
.... thats so strange 2 years later 400mah more and empty in ~15-20hours thats a joke...
whats when i go travelling at arrival the phone is off....
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That's why I always carry a 10000mah portable battery charger. No bigger then the phone do it's not a big issue to put in my pocket. I went 14 hours 27 minutes yesterday and that was down to 11%. I'm also a very heavy user tho. I stream, Facebook, text, kik, internet, watch movies, etc constantly. So to me that's actually not a bad battery. Came from the s5 and I was only getting 9 hours max on that. So this is fantastic battery life to me.

t12icky0 said:
That's why I always carry a 10000mah portable battery charger. No bigger then the phone do it's not a big issue to put in my pocket. I went 14 hours 27 minutes yesterday and that was down to 11%. I'm also a very heavy user tho. I stream, Facebook, text, kik, internet, watch movies, etc constantly. So to me that's actually not a bad battery. Came from the s5 and I was only getting 9 hours max on that. So this is fantastic battery life to me.
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i never need to carry something extra on my z2 and i would say im a "normal" user fb a bit emails whats app etc i dont play on smartphones nothing. and compared to my old z2 when i go to bed i had around 40-60% battery left actually i have around 10-20% left on the s7e... i think something is wrong with the battery/software or something.

Battery life seems okay to me. Idle overnight for 7.5 hours is only 1% drain...

I do believe than an update from Samsung will improve the battery on the Snapdragon 820 edition. It's impossible for such discrepancy between Snapdraon and Exynos. On the other hand, it may be that Qualcomm is just behind with their efficiency and people are just not believing it yet.

I get 7-8 hours SOT.

I got 30hrs runtime and 11hrs SOT and am now on track to get almost 3 days runtime and 9hrs SOT. I'm not disappointed. Screenshots are in the post your battery life thread. I'm on my z2 tablet now so I can't post them. SD820 on Verizon BTW.

Something is obviously draining your battery. I really don't see why anyone complains about battery life of any phone the first week they have the phone. Most people never put the phone down. I got my S7 Edge the first day people got them with T-Mobile so I think two weeks now. I'm a power user and killed the battery once at like 8pm after taking it off the charger at 7am. I had the Sony z1 and returned it since battery life sucked.

I can't post my Gsam stats on the mobile xda app, but I am at 42% battery life left with 5 hours and 11 minutes of active time over the course of 9 Hours. Very heavy usage those 5 Hours btw. GearVR for 20-25 mins, YouTube for an hour and Spotify both to and from my work. With the occasional Web browsing.
Damn good for me.
I want to point out I disabled the majority of the bloatware with package disabler though.

I've moved from an Xperia Z3 and i find the battery life to be much, much better. No complaints here.

Ok this morning i get a popup about some apps moved into power saving mode now.
atm im coming home and get 70% batter left, WOW!
so far it says around 40h lifetime of the battery i think you are right guys i should give the phone a bit more time....
btw im on the european version of the s7e i think thats the exynos version right?

Looking for solution: manage permissions, faster but keep Samsung stock camera

Hi XDA community,
My S5 G900F is a bit sluggish on Lollipop, I also do not really like Samsung UI. I am looking for a solution that:
1) will let me manage app permissions
2) will perform better / give better battery life
3) will let me customize the UI (or that has a lean UI, like CM12) / removes Samsung Bloatware
4) but keep the amazing Samsung stock camera app performance
I was looking into so far:
CM12: camera performance is not sufficient from what I read and some features are missing (e.g. no slow-mo video)
Xposed /Xprivacy: Xposed seems to create a bootloops with Samsung Rom and is complicated to install
Any other solutions I could try? S5 is rooted, running Lollipop 5.0 and running TWRP.
Thanks a lot your suggestions,
Hunibu

Marshmallow stock port for the G900F (Keeping Samsung Camera, improving performance and battery life and app permissions)
Flash with ODIN 3.10.7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66636607&postcount=5291
Debloat script to remove the cr4pware and improve performance and battery life even further
Flash TWRP 3.0.0.0 and then the debloat script from TWRP (And SuperSU 2.71 beta if you want root)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/script-galaxy-cleaner-lollipop-t3156006
Xposed works perfectly with MM for UI changing, or install a better launcher like Nova
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960

*Detection* said:
Marshmallow stock port for the G900F (Keeping Samsung Camera, improving performance and battery life and app permissions)
Flash with ODIN 3.10.7
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=66636607&postcount=5291
Debloat script to remove the cr4pware and improve performance and battery life even further
Flash TWRP 3.0.0.0 and then the debloat script from TWRP (And SuperSU 2.71 beta if you want root)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/script-galaxy-cleaner-lollipop-t3156006
Xposed works perfectly with MM for UI changing, or install a better launcher like Nova
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3180960
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Thanks a lot, Detection. I was reading a lot about battery issues with Marshmallow on Samsung phones, that does make me worry

In terms of your options, they're very limited I'm afraid mate. You simply can't have the Samsung camera without the samsung TW interface. To an extent you can customise it but you're going to be stuck with that if you want the camera. I also agree that the stock camera is 100% the best and quickest, but it simply doesn't work when ported to any other form of ROM (AOSP, CM, AOKP etc).
My solution for now is to use OpenCamera and Camera MX. Whilst it does mean using 2 apps, it also means I get similar performance and the AOKP (my choice of ROM) functionality. Plus as it's extremely light, I'm pushing 2/3 days moderate usage, or at the very least a full day if I use it a bit. Slightly less if I use it as a camera for half the day, which I'm finding I'm doing a lot recently.

hunibu said:
Thanks a lot, Detection. I was reading a lot about battery issues with Marshmallow on Samsung phones, that does make me worry
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No battery issues here, in fact I get better battery life with MM than I did with Lollipop, I'm easily passing 6 hours SoT, and that's with 2 days+ on battery

Thanks to both of you for sharing. I will read up about the two camera apps. And also go through the MM thread here again in more detail. I might just flash MM as a test if I find time this weekend. My knox is triggered anyway. Thanks again!

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No battery issues here, in fact I get better battery life with MM than I did with Lollipop, I'm easily passing 6 hours SoT, and that's with 2 days+ on battery
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Wait... 6hours SoT? You have a extended battery? If not, ''please teach me your way, master''!

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Wait... 6hours SoT? You have a extended battery? If not, ''please teach me your way, master''!
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Nothing special, just normal use, mainly whatsapp, texts, some camera, 50% brightness, WiFi Enabled 24/7, battery lasts well, always has
Got some screenshots of over 5 hours SoT in the battery thread from when I was running Lollipop, MM is better
Taking too long to wait for the full 6 hours SoT, but you can see here with 52% battery left, over 3 hours, so another 50% = another 3 hours
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If the phone would allow 0%, that would be 6h 30mins

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Nothing special, just normal use, mainly whatsapp, texts, some camera, 50% brightness, WiFi Enabled 24/7, battery lasts well, always has
Got some screenshots of over 5 hours SoT in the battery thread from when I was running Lollipop, MM is better
Taking too long to wait for the full 6 hours SoT, but you can see here with 52% battery left, over 3 hours, so another 50% = another 3 hours
EDIT - 50% left, 3h 15m
If the phone would allow 0%, that would be 6h 30mins
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That's quite impressive!! got 6 hours SoT once. But i have 5 hours with ease

I installed MM over the weekend. Battery life seems good so far. Permissions can be managed, I have root and the Samsung camera app. Thanks again.

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