Hi there,
I would need some help on a decision making process and was wondering if some of you please could help me out
I bought a (Australian) ZTE A2017GV1.0.0B08 yesterday (on Android 6.0.1, Kernel 3.18.20) and while I am waiting for case & screen protector I am considering two options (if possible):
1) root only + xposed
2) Unlock bootloader + Lineage OS
Questions regarding 1)
- Main reason for this: Is it possible to keep the bootloader locked and root only (to keep warranty)?
- Would ‘root only’ make it possible to get rid of the ‘phoning home’? (Lineage Os might be at an advantage here) – referring to this: https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/spyware-7-1-1-update-a2017gv1-2-0b02-t3591594
- What about updates – do they need to be disabled or is it a case of simply having to re-root? Or better wait for Nougat, and root then (Or is rooting Nougat more problematic)?
Questions regarding 2)
- For installing LOS I think this is the guide I would be after? https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/guide-install-twrp-unlock-bl-flash-t3517379
- What about Lineage Os updates, are they kind of automated or do they require going through the whole process again?
- No SU in Lineage OS – what about apps that require root (e.g. Titanium) – can SU be easily switched on/off for using such an app? Or is it better to root then and hope Google doesn't complain?
- Does the newest LOS still need a sound fix? https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/sound-fix-los-los-base-roms-t3587373 and https://forum.xda-developers.com/axon-7/how-to/experience-roms-headphone-audio-t3592264
Most importantly - Which approach is less risky regarding bricking the device?
Other pros / cons to consider I didn’t think off?
Thanks a lot for your help!
Note: Just to clarify my level of understanding – last time I played around with a phone was 2 years ago, and that simply required towelroot + installing SU + xposed. So practically a no-brainer compared to this...
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Tab 4 (SM-T530NU) 4.4.2 = used ODIN & Flashed Kernel 2 Root w/ Towelroot; Flash back?
I have a Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 10.1 (SM-T530NU) Even though I'm running on 4.4.2., I wasn't able to ROOT using Towelroot.APK B/C the Kernel is A0A2. So, following the directions on a website (posted at the bottom of this post) I found my device's Model_ROOT.Kernel.Tar.md5 and it's Model_Kernel.Tar.md5 files the webpage stated I needed in order to ROOT my device via ODIN.
Using ODIN, I was successful in flashing the downloaded ROOT.Kernel.tar.md5 file. After completing the next step I was able to successfully gain ROOT privileges by opening TowelRoot.apk & clicking "Make it Rain"
I used a random Root Checker app I downloaded from the Google Play Store to verify whether or not Towelroot succeeded in ROOTING my device.
YEAH!! I HAVE SUPER USER PERMISSIONS!!
I was so excited to have ROOT access after several days of continuous research that I never proceeded to the final steps on the aforementioned website's tutorial. I didn't use Model.Kernel.tar.md5 to flash my device back. Know it's been 2-3 days since I ROOTED my Tab 4 & to the best of my knowledge, I haven't experienced too many relative issues other than both Lucky Patcher & Freedom apps have been unsuccessful when I attempt to get free In-App Purchases from other Apps & Games. Normally I would just uninstall both apps and shrug 'em off as being incompatible with my device but within the past 8-10 months, I've used both of these apps on 2 of my previously ROOTED devices & they both worked correctly from the start. Not to mention that one of those happened to be another Tab 4 which was the same Make & Model of the Tab 4 10.1 SM-T530NU I'm currently using & writing about - the only differences between the two is their SEstatus & their Kernels: Old Tab4 had Permissive SEstatus & the Kernel ended in AND1 while this new one is set to Enforcing SEstatus and it's Kernel ends in A0A2)
I have a few questions related to the information you just read in this Thread:
* Did I really f**k up when I 4got to Flash back after Rooting w/ Towelroot? (If so, what steps do I take)
* How do I get L.P. & Freedom.apk to work correctly? (Does having 'Enforcing' SE Linux Status an issue? Either way, I would like to know how I can switch my SEstatus to 'Permissive')
* How can I Factory Reset my Tab4 running on Kitkat 4.4.2 without losing ROOT access?)
SITE I USED AS A STEP-BY-STEP TUTORIAL TO HELP ME ROOT MY CURRENT TAB 4:
w0lfdroid DOT com (without spaces) /2014/09/TowelRoot-Samsung-Galaxy-S4-S5-and-Note3-Android-4.4.2-NF-or-Later DOT html
If anyone requires any additional information to be able to answer all/any of my Questions, please feel free to contact me.
Thanks a Million,
- B. O'Kane
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APKtech said:
* Did I really f**k up when I 4got to Flash back after Rooting w/ Towelroot? (If so, what steps do I take)
* How do I get L.P. & Freedom.apk to work correctly? (Does having 'Enforcing' SE Linux Status an issue? Either way, I would like to know how I can switch my SEstatus to 'Permissive')
* How can I Factory Reset my Tab4 running on Kitkat 4.4.2 without losing ROOT access?)
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1) Yes. Flash the OA2 kernel the same way you did the root kernel
2) See my answer to your first question. SE Linux has nothing to do with this. If you want SE Status permissive, install a custom kernel or a custom rom
3) You can't
Sincerely,
Another SM-T530NU owner
Hello,
as thread title says, I need some advice from professionals here for my new Galaxy S5.
Well it's not quite new (almost 1 year) but never rooted it or flashed it, so I still got OS (original system) by Samsung.
I am a pretty amateur on such stuff. First I need some advice what to do: Rec & Root or flash custom rom?
Followng things are important to me:
The System has to be stable and fast: no lags, no crashes, no errors (I do not expect 100% stability, since not even OS is 100% stable, but it has to be at least stable as OS or even a bit more)
I need features and nice widgets (Rom must also be afordable to other apps and widgets, I 'd prefer Samsung OS widget)
I need good quality on camera (preferred OS cam software and features)
Good signal and GPS (Good and fast GPS is a MUST!!, as I use often Navigon when I travel with my car)
Good video player and galery app (Preferred Samsung OS Galery App, but video player can also be different than Samsung OS Video Player if its working fine)
What I do not do with my phone:
I do not play games
I do not read e-books
I don't understand the purpose of KNOX! Do I need it really?
Here are some details of my Smartphone:
Model no: SM-G900F
Android version: 5.0
Modem version: G900FXXU1POJ1
Kernel version: 3.4.0-6364590
Build number: LRX21T.G900FXXU1POK5
Securitysoftware version: MDF v1.1 release 4 / VPN v1.4 Release 3
I would be greatful if someone could give an advice if it is worth to flash a custom rom and if yes what rom based in what moden and kernel versions or if a simple root with recovery install is enough?.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Hi @GordonSpace.......
Most of what you said in your post leads me to believe that there are many things about the stock OS that you are happy with. That being the case, the old adage 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' comes to mind.....meaning (for now) you might as well stay with stock. If you start flashing CM custom roms (for example) you will lose that look and feel.
On to your question about Knox.....
In a nutshell, knox is based around an 'eFuse' which will trip or blow as soon as you modify your device. This eFuse CANNOT be reset. Samsung are, in some cases, denying warranty repairs on devices where knox has been tripped.
So basically, as soon as you flash CF Root or TWRP to gain root, your warranty is void (Samsung normally provide a 2 year warranty on their devices). Tripping knox will also prevent future 'over the air' updates. So even if you unrooted your device you would be stuck with the version of the OS that you have on your device. Finally, tripping knox will prevent your device from connecting to 'business enterprise secure' servers. So if you currently use your phone on your employers network, this will no longer be possible.
If you still want to go ahead and forget about knox, this is the easiest way to gain root......
Follow exactly....
1) deactivate 'Reactivation Lock' (can be found under Security in Settings).
2) copy SuperSU zip to your device.
3) boot into download mode.
4) Odin flash TWRP 2.8.7.0 (specifically this version).
5) DO NOT allow phone to boot, (uncheck auto reboot in odin and if necessary remove the battery as soon as the TWRP flash has completed) then.....
6) boot directly into recovery. (Vol +, Power & Home button combination)
7) flash SuperSU zip.
8) boot device as normal.
TWRP 2.8.7.0 by Dees_Troy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727406
superSU zip v2.46 by Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
When you have root access, you can get Titanium Backup from the playstore and freeze/delete the 'bloatware' that comes pre - installed on Samsung firmwares.
That will then give you the stability of the software designed for the phone coupled with the look and feel that you like, but without the resource hogging rubbish that most people with unrooted phones have to put up with......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
thanks
keithross39 said:
Hi @GordonSpace.......
Most of what you said in your post leads me to believe that there are many things about the stock OS that you are happy with. That being the case, the old adage 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' comes to mind.....meaning (for now) you might as well stay with stock. If you start flashing CM custom roms (for example) you will lose that look and feel.
On to your question about Knox.....
In a nutshell, knox is based around an 'eFuse' which will trip or blow as soon as you modify your device. This eFuse CANNOT be reset. Samsung are, in some cases, denying warranty repairs on devices where knox has been tripped.
So basically, as soon as you flash CF Root or TWRP to gain root, your warranty is void (Samsung normally provide a 2 year warranty on their devices). Tripping knox will also prevent future 'over the air' updates. So even if you unrooted your device you would be stuck with the version of the OS that you have on your device. Finally, tripping knox will prevent your device from connecting to 'business enterprise secure' servers. So if you currently use your phone on your employers network, this will no longer be possible.
If you still want to go ahead and forget about knox, this is the easiest way to gain root......
Follow exactly....
1) deactivate 'Reactivation Lock' (can be found under Security in Settings).
2) copy SuperSU zip to your device.
3) boot into download mode.
4) Odin flash TWRP 2.8.7.0 (specifically this version).
5) DO NOT allow phone to boot, (uncheck auto reboot in odin and if necessary remove the battery as soon as the TWRP flash has completed) then.....
6) boot directly into recovery. (Vol +, Power & Home button combination)
7) flash SuperSU zip.
8) boot device as normal.
TWRP 2.8.7.0 by Dees_Troy
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2727406
superSU zip v2.46 by Chainfire
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053
When you have root access, you can get Titanium Backup from the playstore and freeze/delete the 'bloatware' that comes pre - installed on Samsung firmwares.
That will then give you the stability of the software designed for the phone coupled with the look and feel that you like, but without the resource hogging rubbish that most people with unrooted phones have to put up with......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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Hello keithross and thank you for your response.
I use my smartphone only in private.
However it still has 11 months warranty by Samsung. Another Idea I had was to sell my Galaxy S5 as it is (OS and Knox) and buy another smartphone.
However what would be your recommendation for a new smartphone?
I was thinking about LG or HTC. But I'm not sure about to purchase a "famous" brand device or just a cheap one like Mobistel, Huawai and such.
What is a nice smartphone to have it root / flashed?
Regards
Kiri
I have about 9 months of warranty left on my phone....but I was able to root without tripping knox.....simply because I rooted before I allowed my phone to update to Lollipop (I rooted with Towelroot while running KitKat) then debloated, and customised the stock firmware.....so I have my phone as I want it, and still have knox intact.
The S5 will probably be my final Samsung smartphone, but as of this moment, I haven't given much thought as to what I'll replace it with. I'm half tempted to keep it beyond the end of it's warranty and start trying out custom roms at that point. It does everything I want it to do, so why would I need to replace it?
On the other hand, if i did replace it, I'd probably stay with one of the well known brand names.....The chances are that they'll have more dev support than the less popular makes of device....but I won't waste my money on any more flagship devices, I'll probably look at the 'upper midrange' devices as they'll (by that time) probably have similar specs to my current device (the way technology is currently advancing, they may even be superior to the S5)......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
CyanogenMod
I decided to flash cyanogenmod snapshot
1. However I do not understand the difference between klte and kltedv rom (kltedv = vodafone. does that mean my provider has to be vodafone?)
2. TWRP or Cyanogen Recovery?
3. Do I need to install a diff Kernel version?
4. Anything I should take care about before I flash? (something special about Samsung drivers, kernel, odin etc...?)
Thx for your support.
1....In all honesty I can't answer having never flashed custom to my S5.
2....TWRP recovery over Cyanogen recovery....Every time. Cyanogen recovery is little better (if at all) than stock recovery.
3....flashing a different kernel isn't strictly speaking necessary....unless you want to be able to change processor clock speeds and voltage and apply various other specialist 'tweaks'.....
4....after rooting (but before flashing) make a backup of your EFS folder (critically important) it contains, amongst other things, your IMEI number. If this folder becomes corrupted, you're in a whole world of hurt....
Back up any personal data that you can't afford to lose....things like photos etc.
Make sure you have a copy of your current firmware available....If it all goes pear shaped, you'll possibly need it to recover your phone.
The version of Odin that has most compatibility with the S5 is v3.10.7 though other versions *should* work.
Get hold of and install the Samsung USB drivers on your pc....They come bundled with Kies available on Samsung's website. (If you install Kies, you will need to use task manager on your pc to kill the kies processes prior to flashing anything with Odin).
Use the usb cable that came with your phone when connecting it to your pc.
Make sure you've disabled your firewall and antivirus before attempting to use Odin.
If you need any more help just let me know by commenting below.....
Luck fella
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
Hey thanks mate. I rooted my device with CF autoroot via odin. I read that CM13 with Android 6 is as a stable version out now. Probably I am gonna flash it. However, I have a question with my current root of S5. Currently the wifi passwords are being save as an encrypted hex key in the wifi_supplicant.conf file. However I would like to use an app that saves and shows my wifi passwords, but unfortunately due to the encryption of S5 it's not a help for me. Any recommendations what can I do to save the real PW instead of the encrypted key?
Sorry fella....The tech aspects of your question have gone right over my head like an international Jumbo Jet....I have no idea what you're even asking about, let alone how to solve it for you. Your best bet would be to create a thread specifically for this question.....you will probably get more views for that thread than for this one.....sorry mate....
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
GordonSpace said:
Hey thanks mate. I rooted my device with CF autoroot via odin. I read that CM13 with Android 6 is as a stable version out now. Probably I am gonna flash it. However, I have a question with my current root of S5. Currently the wifi passwords are being save as an encrypted hex key in the wifi_supplicant.conf file. However I would like to use an app that saves and shows my wifi passwords, but unfortunately due to the encryption of S5 it's not a help for me. Any recommendations what can I do to save the real PW instead of the encrypted key?
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You should already know the passwords if they are your routers/APs
I don't know my passwords. The thing is, that sometimes we go to some cafés and such where I have saved the PW of the router, but sitting with friends some of them do not have it to connect with wifi. Thats why I am asking if there is a possibility to view the passwords I saved in my wifi connections (not as a hex key but the true passwords). Anyway.. thx for help. I guess thats Samsung OS. Hope it won't be with CM13 like this.
I just got an SM-G975F/DS ~ seems like the Taiwan version.
My current issues:
Can't disable emergency alerts!!!
Can't clear voicemail notification from tray. Infuriating.
No hosts file override (need this for app development & Adaway)
Samsung bloatware
I don't give a f*ck about Knox or Samsung Pay but I like the stock camera so I have a few questions about the root process.
First it seems like this is the process just to have root in with Stock ROM. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
For randoms reading this: THIS WILL NOT WORK ON USA Snapdragon VERSION
Enable OEM Unlock from developer menu.
Boot into download mode (Plug in PC connected USB cable while holding Bixsby Button + Vol Down)
Unlock bootloader by pressing volume up and confirming (not actually unlocked yet due to Samsung trickery)
Quick setup OS with Internet connectivity knowing it's gonna be wiped again.
At this point Samsung's Vaultkeeper service should detect OEM unlock and finally actually unlock the bootloader.
Install Magisk with this guide.
So it seems like this process would patch just the AP partition with Odin while keeping the ROM and Recovery stock.
So here's the questions.
If I continue to run stock ROM with Magisk with this method any official OTA updates must be done manually or I risk bricking the device?
If I install TWRP and try out some roms and don't like them can I go back to stock?
Is it possible to flash stock rom WITHOUT Magisk after doing all this?
I plan on writing some simple guides on this when I'm done since the current ones are a bit confusing so I would appreciate some clear and concise answers the the above questions.
Thanks all!
I recently got a contracted Exynos S10 and have been reading some of the horror stories here after failed root etc
How stable is the S10 after root/unlocking bootloader? magisk is pretty cool , aye
Should I root it?..
Horror stories come from people whom don't do research and follow instructions slowly and carefully, and not confident.
And make it out as its the actual root that's the issue, not them.
I got my s10 plus just 4 weeks ago, i read up for few days, watched videos, understood how root is different slightly to past models.
I found this video which is excellent to help understand about unlocking bootloader and rooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3a8YnWT3yk
Thou i used only how to unlock bootloader from this video, after i downgraded back to pie from ten, then installed a stock with twrp and magisk already patched with superb help from the member, Comsite:-https://forum.xda-developers.com/s10-plus/how-to/root-unsuccessful-everytime-t4042427
Then if you want to get rid of ugly bootloder warnings splash screens, go here:- https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/development/g97xf-soldier9312s-splash-screen-t3929748
Yes rooting is different, but take your time and go for it, so many benefits from rooting for personal reasons :good:
It depends. If you are fine using the phone without Samsung Pay and OTA. Is worth it.
Umbrellaus said:
It depends. If you are fine using the phone without Samsung Pay and OTA. Is worth it.
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But is it stable. I find the S10 unusable when Ive got too many background apps running or do something else it doesn't like. Nearly every phone Ive owned has been rooted so I know abit about it.
Ok so I wanna root my S10 ,but when I reboot to download mode (OEM unlock checked) I hold volume up but I don't get a prompt to unlock bootloader, also, i can't enter recovery or download manually , bixby + vol down/up & power. Any ideas??
Success!
I tried to install official twrp in the thread. Big mistake. Nearly killed my S10
It wasn't untill I flashed stock including stock ap file from Odin that I could flash magisk, kept saying only official firmware can be flashed to this device or somethin... :silly:
In my personal opinion,
- 5 to 10 years back, rooting has lots of more benefits
- currently, there are many alternative solutions to rooting for ad blocking, freeze apps etc.
I did not root my phones after S8 and now s10+.
Tiongkia said:
In my personal opinion,
- 5 to 10 years back, rooting has lots of more benefits
- currently, there are many alternative solutions to rooting for ad blocking, freeze apps etc.
I did not root my phones after S8 and now s10+.
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I did not regret rooting my S10 on pie. Themes, magisk modules like viper4android.. it's awesome
I rooted my S10+ Snapdragon (as I have my last 5 phones) first and foremost for Gravitybox and 'Hold back to kill'. After that it was for Afwall+, Edxposed/Magisk, Xprivacy, AppOpps, Greenify, Button Mapper, Icebox, Isolated app storage, and the excellent Maxlock. Samsung warns rooting makes your phone less secure, which is true if u lose it. Password can be bypassed and won't be encrypted, ADB vulnerable etc... So don't root, just let Samsung(among others) run network connections in the background for almost every function you choose
I feel much more secure not being data mined constantly.
fil3s said:
I updated to 10 with magisk 20.3 and it's much better than pie. Awesome
Edit: downloaded with frija this is the ops stock rom I used. 1/3/20 sec patch. Includes already magisk patched ap file :good:
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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZM3vKvtW6J50vya6MxbfLf_U4zn0ekcp/view?usp=drivesdk
I have the LTE version of the tablet (SM-T725 running android 10 (fully up to date), UK). The device is (so far) unmodified. It was bought through Vodafone, but has never had a network lock.
To give a general overview of my experience, I have rooted the majority of my android devices in the past, but this is my first Samsung device for a several years.
I have a few questions, I hope someone can answer them.
1 - Will unlocking the bootloader and installing this kernel(https://forum.xda-developers.com/ta...el-luiskernel-gts4lvwifi-gts4lvlte-t3977343), twrp, and magisk, result in any features being lost? (Dex, HDMI, USB OTG storage, HD netflix, anything relating to knox, good lock, etc.)
1A - If any features will be lost, is it possible to restore them through, for example, a magisk module, and if so, which ones?
2 - Are there any apps I should expect to stop working completely?
3 - Is it possible to backup the tablet's data prior to unlocking the bootloader in a way that allows it all to be restored after installing the kernel/twrp/magisk?
4 - Is there anything else I should know before unlocking the bootloader and installing the kernel/twrp/magisk?
5 - How will future system updates work? Obviously OTA is out of the question, but what other methods are available, and are there any downsides?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can offer any help in answering these questions.