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[Q] Note 4 Rooted, Then What?

I'm coming from the HTC environment and the Note 4 will be my first Samsung phone. I have a few concerns regarding root. Assuming the Note 4 can be rooted, using the Note 3 and the S5 as a precident, how does one maintain updates? With HTC, if you had root, you could flash a new ROM for software updates (newer android versions, bug fixes, carrier updates). However, to update firmware, like updated radios, you needed S-Off.
Please help explain. With the Note 4, what will we need in order to do the following, and what is the likelyhood each of the following will be possible:
1) Obtain Root to run apps requiring root (Titanium, adblocker, WIFI tether...)
2) Install custom recovery
3) Flash custom ROMs
4) maintain a phone with updated and current Firmware and Radios.
Otherwise, what do people do who root there phone on day 1? Do they go 1-2 years with the phone without updating firmware?
Thank you

you can update samsung software with no issues. Assuming they'll keep it like the Note 2, there under the settings>update, there are different tabs, and one is Samsung.
Modems and other such updates, you'll just need to wait a day or two for someone to upload the newer OTA with root. Sometimes, some of the root tools, like SuperUser, will have OTA survivor mode, but they're not guaranteed to worked.
End of the day, it's not anything you're not already use to

Thanks for the response. So if the bootloader is NOT able to be unlocked, what will we be missing out on then? If the bootloader IS locked and there is no way around it, we can still root, flash ROMS, and update radios/firmware?

we can only go by the past to predict the future, but in US ATT Note 3 had locked bootloader, T-mobile loader was unlocked, so it was up to the carrier, but I believe both had way to root. One problem with Samsung was Knox software, which once triggered by root or loading custom firmware couldn't be reset back to zero. Based on that flag some people claimed to be refused warranty repairs, others didn't, so who knows. One thing is that Samsung "donated" knox to Google L Android, so it may be on all Android phones in the future, but again who knows how Google will implement it. It may take a time for developers to find their way around new phone, so if you have concerns, wait a little until all is clear, for now we can only guess. My Note 3 is rooted, "official" with Knox flag 0, but I had to wait for proper methods to be developed and every time I update I need to re root (and make some other changes) again. There could be developer model also with everything open, who knows.

Thanks for the response.
I just need to clarify what can be done on a rooted Samsung device vs what can be done with a rooted AND unlocked Samsung device.
Am I correct:
Rooted Only:
-superuser
-can run root required apps (Titanium, Wifi Tether)
-can flash custom ROM but must be stock based only, and must be on stock kernel
-can NOT install CM or TWRP custom recovery
-can update firmware and radios but must OTA and then re-root

you cant flash a rom with stock recovery
if no bootloader unlock, and no custom recovery, then no rom flashing..

flyhighx said:
.... Rooted Only:
.. -can flash custom ROM but must be stock based only, and must be on stock kernel .../QUOTE]
As stated above, this not correct. You'll able to flash the stock firm via Odin. In fact, you'll be able to get the tar file from Samsung if you wanted.
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I haven't used it in awhile, but I believe you still need a custom recovery to use Mobile Odin, don't you?

i want root mostly for four reasons:
Disable logging
Multi window enable more apps
Make one hand mode background black
because its mine and i can...
But I also need it rooted without tripping knox (for work purposes..)

[Q] Quick Question If Someone Has a Moment, Please

I just swapped from my Amaze 4g, to a used Note 3, and I'm a little lost as far as where I should start.
It says that it's on 4.4.2, and that I cannot update due to a modified system.
Basically, I would like to get updated to 5.1.1 (or as close as is official for the Note 3), and root it.
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with Samsung devices, and because I purchased this from ebay, I don't know how to tell the exact state that the former user put it in (I expected they would return it to stock prior to selling).
It's currently a T-Mobile branded, SM-N900T, on 4.4.2, build is KOT49H, security software MDF v1.0 release 2. Kernel is 3.4.0-660648.
It is supposedly unlocked for carriers, though I have not attempted a SIM card use yet, until I can tell that what I have is a valid device and the IMEI is checked out.
Any thoughts on how to validate the IMEI, and sort out how to get my new phone up to date would be appreciated. As I stated, I expected the vendor would have returned it to stock, but that is clearly not the case, so I don't want to accidentally boot loop it by doing something I shouldn't. I have not owned a Samsung before, so I want to be careful on how it differs from my Nexus 7, Amaze 4g, and Droid X, as they're all obviously very different in the OS area.
Thank you for the help1

Download tbe stock 4.4.2 rom and use odin to install. Then you will get the OTA updates.
Sent from my SM-N900P using Tapatalk

There is no stock 5.1.1 for note 3, only cm12.1/ aosp. Latest is 5.0 and you can use odin to flash. Maybe it's rooted that's why you can't update.

bladebarrier said:
I just swapped from my Amaze 4g, to a used Note 3, and I'm a little lost as far as where I should start.
It says that it's on 4.4.2, and that I cannot update due to a modified system.
Basically, I would like to get updated to 5.1.1 (or as close as is official for the Note 3), and root it.
...
Thank you for the help1
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Some apps to install from Play Store...
Phone INFO Samsung - this will tell you all about your phone and the firmware etc.
Root Checker Basic - tells you if you are rooted or not.
SuperSU - this is so valuable you should buy the Pro licence. Chainfire does some great work for our phones.
TWRP - I have the zip version on my extSDCard and an Odin version on PC in case I have to rebuild from a Stock firmware. CWN works OK but most ROM builds seem to be for TWRP I think and a backup from one will not work on the other.
I don't know your previous phone so you probably need Odin v3.09 - this sits on PC and lets you flash firmware to the phone. (connected by USB)
For which you need Samsung USB drivers so the PC will recognise the phone. Install on PC before connecting phone.
Then do some browsing and find the processes to root your phone and install the ROM you want. If you just want Stock and access to all your phone, you can root it after flashing the original v5.0 download (from Sammobile or similar site - note on Sammobile you need a free account to DL) and then install Custom recovery (if wanted - it WILL trip the Knox flag but that may not matter given it's 2nd hand and might already be tripped anyway)
Read, make SURE you understand what is being said BEFORE you do anything - ask if you don't.
Good luck...

N9005 Lollipop brick
Hi All, just need a huge help here, a friend of mine has been using a N9005 which was auto restarting, she went online and downloaded this firmware...N900AUCUEOC1_N900AATTEOC1_N900AUCUEOC1_HOME.tar.md5....2.5GB in size...and flashed it, but the phone is stuck in boot loop even after recovery wiping data and cache, the phone can boot into download mode but re flashing the firmware always fails.....is there a solution for this.....please help

Thank you all for the info, especially the detailed info from Journyman16. I checked, and it is flagged as custom, which is fine, so I'm going to go ahead and try to return to mostly stock, update it, and root it.

Ok, everything went well. I had to do two attempts at rooting, but I think it's just one of those things where sometimes it doesn't restart into the process every time.
All seems good. I'm on 5.0, rooted, busyboxed, and smooth sailing.
Thank you all, again, for the tips. The Note 3 is running very well. Thank you to all of the devs that have made this process so refined. I've donated to you before, and did so again today. It's outstanding to have such well versed coders, on XDA, helping out the community.

mjmbirige said:
Hi All, just need a huge help here, a friend of mine has been using a N9005 which was auto restarting, she went online and downloaded this firmware...N900AUCUEOC1_N900AATTEOC1_N900AUCUEOC1_HOME.tar.md5....2.5GB in size...and flashed it, but the phone is stuck in boot loop even after recovery wiping data and cache, the phone can boot into download mode but re flashing the firmware always fails.....is there a solution for this.....please help
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You have never learned not to ask in others posts? What does your problem has to do with this topic at all?
When you need help. Just click on Q&A then Create a new thread. How hard is it?

G900F temp root solotion in lollipop?

Dear esteemed experts,
I’m hoping you can assist in my hour of need: My partner has a stock unrooted European G900F S5, which unfortunately had a massive software glitch causing it to crash on start up. Long story short we managed to get to the factory reset options and do a full reset, which cured the problem, however my partner’s data has now been lost.
She regularly backed up and had all the autobackups enabled so contacts, sms, mms, pics, videos, settings, etc were all restored with relative ease, but it appears the most valuable thing to her, her WhatsApp conversation backups were stored by Whatsapp on the internal memory rather than the SD card (brilliant piece of software design going on there) so they are gone. Smart Switch restored all of the other WhatsApp data on the internal memory as part of its “data” backup but not the backup files…
I’d like to run a data recovery program to see if they can be recovered, but am hitting dead ends at every turn: none of the specialist android recovery programs (such as dr fone) appear to work on a lollipop S5 unless it is rooted; none of the usual PC recovery suites can work on MTP or PTP modes and a mass storage connection is no longer possible (at least without root); and the only way to permanently root is to downgrade the stock rom (which will likely overwrite the data I am trying to recover) and use something like towel root on KitKat. In any event, she’s very happy with an unrooted phone with OTA updates and so wouldn’t wish to end up with a rooted phone anyway, so I’d have no real interest in a custom bootloader install, etc: I just want temporary access for dr fone!
To that end, I wondered if there was by any chance a crafty way of obtaining a temporary root in lollipop (a re-root after restart is absolutely fine by me) just so I can run a recovery program and see if we get any luck? If it came to it I think she’d be prepared to sacrifice a knox trip if she got her conversations back….
Apologies if this has been asked before, but I could only fish out advice on permanent rooting for s5 in my searches (both here and on google).
Many thanks for your assistance!
Dav

No way to root lollipop without tripping KNOX if you are not willing to downgrade to KitKat first, which would defeat the object as you could root with towelroot then anyway
Only way to root Lollipop is to flash CF Auto Root with ODIN, which WILL trip KNOX, and it is permanent unless you choose to unroot / flash stock again
This is the file you need to flash with ODIN (Extract and add it to the AP or PDA section of ODIN with the phone in download mode)
http://download.chainfire.eu/397/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-klte-kltexx-smg900f.zip
PS: Questions go here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/help

New to Samsung devices, but just need to make sure

Hello all,
This is my first Samsung device, the Galaxy S7 Edge Dual sim (SM-G935FD) bought from UAE.
I used to install TWRP and root every android phone I had before, so I am still not sure whether to root this one. I already have the files required for rooting, but I noticed that there are 2 ways of rooting:
1. Using Odin to install TWRP and then from there install SuperSU.
2. CF-Auto-Root.
What is/are the difference(s) in both methods?
My other question is: I read that rooting will trip Knox, and there is NO WAY to get it back to normal even flashing the original ROM. Is that the case?
One last thing, I am now stuck in the download mode (turned off the phone, pressed "Volume down", "Home" and "Power"), I did that just to check the info on the top left (model and warranty void...) but I cannot seem to restart the phone even by pressing the power button for more than 20 seconds, how can I turn the phone off then back on?
Thank you
*****EDIT*****
Regarding my last question (stuck in Download mode), pressing the same combination got me back to start the phone normally

Cf-AutoRoot will root your phone but then you will have to put your recovery on also usually flashed with Odin anyway or an app if it's working for the Galaxy S7... Twrp plus superuser will root and you'll have the recovery installed.... They both will trip your official (0x0) knox and make it (0x1) custom.... You can always go back to stock rom and get OTA updates but your knox will remain at 0x1......this is supposed to void the warranty but depending on where you live it won't make a difference.... Also if you want to flash roms and mods and kernels just use the twrp method and if you just want root and to be able to use root permission apps use the Cf-AutoRoot.... As of right now I haven't rooted because there aren't to many Roms available... I'm sure I will cause I miss titanium backup and the ability to get rid of all the bloat ware (especially Facebook & Microsoft ****).... The phone runs great without root and battery is excellent.... The last reason I was waiting was Samsung pay won't work with tripped Knox counter.... I live in the US but have the international 935F... So it doesn't look like this variant will support Pay anytime soon.... Probably gonna root when development picks up a little....
*edit*... Always have a stock rom just in case saved to your computer just in case... That would of saved me lots of freak outs and headaches years ago... Now it's the first thing I do before Rooting or flashing anything to my phone
Galaxy S7 edge

Kjc99 said:
Cf-AutoRoot will root your phone but then you will have to put your recovery on also usually flashed with Odin anyway or an app if it's working for the Galaxy S7... Twrp plus superuser will root and you'll have the recovery installed.... They both will trip your official (0x0) knox and make it (0x1) custom.... You can always go back to stock rom and get OTA updates but your knox will remain at 0x1......this is supposed to void the warranty but depending on where you live it won't make a difference.... Also if you want to flash roms and mods and kernels just use the twrp method and if you just want root and to be able to use root permission apps use the Cf-AutoRoot
Galaxy S7 edge
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Thank you for the detailed reply.
I made a research yesterday on Knox (as I said, this is my first Samsung device), and I just wanted to make sure that I understood things properly.
So now after reading, tripping Knox will disable Samsung Pay (I do not have it in my country) so that is not going to make any difference. But, what about paying using the fingerprint sensor in Google Play, will it stop working if Knox is tripped? I also use the fingerprint sensor to login to my mobile banking app (instead of typing the password every time I want to login), will that stop too? I guess not but again just to be sure.
Thanks a lot once again.

I know when I rooted my S6 all the fingerprint stuff still worked so I dont think it will make a difference... Im not sure with the S7 edge but I would think it would still work cause all of those require a typed password before you use your fingerprint(1st setup only) Then use your fingerprint there after... .. Doesn't have anything to do with Knox
Galaxy S7 edge

yep, it all still works. just Samsung pay & private mode.

Samsung Galaxy S8 SM-G950F BOOTLOOP Odin Fails to install old BL

Hello Everybody,
I am an old iPhone user, who just switched to Samsung Galaxy S8.
I am used to simple Jailbreak one touch jailbreak, but this android is a WHOLE new thing for me.
I would like to root my phone with a ROM, which do not have KNOX and found WCKD on YouTube, which makes awesome guides regarding S8.
Problem is now, that I follow his guide "HOW TO INSTALL TWRP & MAGISK ROOT on Samsung Galaxy S8/S8+ | UPDATE 2"
and everything went smooth until I needed to reboot my phone.
Now my phone stays on the Booting Screen showing Samsung Galaxy S8 and I cannot get into my phone.
I then found another guide by WCKD "Galaxy S8/S8+ Odin FAIL, BOOTLOOP, BOOTLOADER FIX!"
But this time it did not go smooth, every time I go to download mode, then press Start in Odin and then directly hold down volume down+Bixi+power bottom it will not success, so I am failing all the time, same thing happen for a lot of other people, since they had commented his video. For some it worked but for many they have same issue as me.
What will be my next step here?
If I hold down Volume up + Bixi + Power bottom nothing is happening
If I hold down Volume down + Bixi + Power bottom I can come into "Downloading"
I really hope, someone can tell me what to do next, so I can use my "New" Samsung phone.

Update
I managed to fix the last phase before installing a new ROM without KNOX.
Would my next step be to download a ROM without KNOX, and the install it through TWRP?

MioDK said:
I managed to fix the last phase before installing a new ROM without KNOX.
Would my next step be to download a ROM without KNOX, and the install it through TWRP?
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1. In Odin under options untick auto reboot. It will prevent the phone from reboot when flashing is completed. Reboot manually.
2. For custom rom search
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/samsung-galaxy-s8--s8-cross-device-development
Or under rom section

Update2
spawnlives said:
1. In Odin under options untick auto reboot. It will prevent the phone from reboot when flashing is completed. Reboot manually.
2. For custom rom search
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s8/samsung-galaxy-s8--s8-cross-device-development
Or under rom section
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Thank you very much for the answers.
How important is it to flash the Kernel?
I did flash my phone with AMBASADII ROM FOR S8 & S8+ [ODEX] [AQH3] [v1.4]
https://forum.android.com.pl/topic/322837-rom-ambasadii-rom-for-s8-s8-odex-aqh3-v14/
It states fully knox removed! (rom not support: samsung pay, samsung pass and secure folder)
● Support models: SM-G95xF and SM-G95xFD
But after I flash the ROM and it got installed my phone still have KNOX 0x0 instead of 0x1 which makes no sense since I have TWRP installed on the phone.
Is it possible that ex. this ROM is so old, that it can not remove the KNOX security from a Samsung Phone?
Would love to get some recommendations about which ROM I could flash with so the KNOX 100% will be deleted.
Also would be happy if someone could explain me how important it is to flash the Kernel, and what I should look for.
Cheers!

Update 3
Today I flashed my Phone with [ROM] [PIE 9.0] AMBASADII ROM FOR S8/S8+ [STABLE] [ODEX] [DSD3] [v9.0]
in the Description it clearly states that KNOX is removed.
Knox and FOTA removed! (rom not support: samsung pay, samsung pass and secure folder)
https://sites.google.com/view/ambasadiidev/strona-główna/ambasadii-rom-for-s8s8
But it is not, when I go to Phone info I see this information.
Version of Knox
Knox 3.2.1
Knox API Level 27
TIMA No Poicy Version
Am I doing something wrong when I am flashing the ROM? I am using TWRP to "Install" The ROM.
Do I need to do something after I flashed the ROM? Maybe some kind of Kernel?
Thanks in advance.