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I turn on my Galaxy today and suddenly my sim unlocked phone is simlocked again. WTF?
Samsung/Google put a damn remote control for network providers into Android.
Network providers can change our settings and override our own settings and who knows what else.
On my dumbphone and on my hsdpa modem the network is unable to override my settings like on Android.
If this kind of remote control would be inside Windows, there would be mass protests.
I think this is caused by a software like CarrierIQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CarrierIQ
Yes, samsung is remotely changing your APN settings just to see how you will react. They noticed how annoyed you were, so they decided to simlock your phone again, that sure was hilarious, gave them a good laugh, so they tried it again the day after. They keep pictures of angry customers (ofcourse secretly taken with the cam on your phone) on their walls and throw darts at them. Wherever the dart lands, that customer will get a random new APN configured.
You are lucky though, samsung also changes your sms tone to fart sounds when you are not looking. Also, setting your alarm clock to 2 AM is one of their better random pranks, so be sure to check your alarm every night before you go to sleep.
In the sticky thread of this forum:
"[SC-02C] Japan NTT DoCoMo Galaxy S II Users"
I quote what they write:
"Its suspected that turning the built-in tether feature switches you invisibly to a different APN which generates an increase on the bill."
Yeah, so samsung MUST be changing APN settings remotely. I told you they were pranksters
Boeboe said:
Yeah, so samsung MUST be changing APN settings remotely. I told you they were pranksters
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Read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_IQ
Samsung is not a network operator.
I'll see your carrier IQ and raise you Carrier IQ Detector.
Oh, you are not American? Only God knows why you mentioned Carrier IQ then
Still, I thought Carrier IQ could only be used for stat collection, not for remotely changing random settings. Thanks for the info!
Also, yes, I am a complete noob at being a clown. If only I could learn from a clown master
About this software:
Apple, HTC and Samsung said the software was installed on their phones. Apple said it had quit supporting the application in iOS 5. Apple said it would scrub the software from phones in some future release. HTC said, it was required on its devices by a "number of U.S. carriers." Nokia and Research in Motion said it categorically was not authorized for their phones. However, this does not prevent mobile carriers from installing it after the phone is manufactured. According to the company's website the software is also installed on NEC mobile devices, and the company has a partnership with Vodafone Portugal.
On December 1, 2011, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile confirmed it was on their phones.
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CarrierIQ
I readed wiki article mostly... So is there any cure against this? Some program or removal tool
I know that they collect some data information, but if they starting keylogging, then...
kureke said:
I readed wiki article mostly... So is there any cure against this? Some program or removal tool
I know that they collect some data information, but if they starting keylogging, then...
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The network operators can change the settings of the OS.
I quote again from the other thread:
"Its suspected that turning the built-in tether feature switches you invisibly to a different APN which generates an increase on the bill."
Activate wifi network and deactivate mobile network, edit your APN's and see if changes with your wifi network. If it does, you have a problem with the software of your mobile phone. If it doesn't call the ghost-buster!!
v1c70r said:
Activate wifi network and deactivate mobile network, edit your APN's and see if changes with your wifi network. If it does, you have a problem with the software of your mobile phone. If it doesn't call the ghost-buster!!
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He wrote "invisibly".
Invisibly means that what you have set in your settings is irrelevant.
He's talking about tethering.
When you tether, you lose wifi connectivity, because your phone needs to act as an AP.
Boeboe said:
He's talking about tethering.
When you tether, you lose wifi connectivity, because your phone needs to act as an AP.
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What you wrote is not related to what I am writing about.
I am writing about 3G network settings and network operator control over them.
Wifi and 3G are two different things.
APNs are set for 3G, not Wifi.
He writes that the 3G APN changes.
Nobody is writing about wifi losing connectivity, except you.
How did you notice it changed the first time if it happened "invisibly", but can't see if it happens again on wifi?
legion1911 said:
I turn on my Galaxy today and suddenly my sim unlocked phone is simlocked again. WTF?
And other times I noticed my APN invisibly change.
Samsung/Google put a damn remote control for network operators into android.
They can change our settings and override our own settings and who knows what else.
I thought Android is a free, open OS. We root the device and do all kinds of stuff but Samsung/Google have given control on the OS to the network operators.
If this kind of remote control would be inside Windows, there would be mass protests.
This OS is remote controlled by the network operators.
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The reason for the argument is that your 1st post is somewhat misleading, how exactly they changed your apn settings? also why you bring up carrier iq? that software is for logging not remote controlling...
First HTC now Samsung? Really wtf :/
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
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How did you notice it changed the first time if it happened "invisibly", but can't see if it happens again on wifi?
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I explain in more detail. There are two APNs on my network provider.
One has a network speed limitation, one does not have it.
I of course use the one without the speed limitation.
ONLY ON MY ANDROID PHONE (on my dumbphone and on my hsdpa modem this never happens), the network operator DISCONNECTs my connection with my APN, and the phone re-connects to hspa+ with the different APN. Invisibly means that the APN in my settings is the same I put, (the one without speed cap).
But I notice I am on the other APN, because I see the network disconnection and I notice the reconnection with speed limitation.
This speed limitation or speed cap is visible on my speed meter (netlimiter program).
Sesshou said:
The reason for the argument is that your 1st post is somewhat misleading, how exactly they changed your apn settings? also why you bring up carrier iq? that software is for logging not remote controlling...
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As the other contributor explained:
"Its suspected that turning the built-in tether feature switches you invisibly to a different APN which generates an increase on the bill."
He notices it from the increase in the phone bill.
I notice it from the disconnection of my hspa+ connection and the re-connection with the APN with speed limitation. I can see the speed limitation clearly on my program "netlimiter".
And, this never happens on my dumbphone and on my hsdpa modem, only on Android.
I bring up carrieriq because it is an example of a program the network providers put on android to do stuff without our approval.
envioustitan08 said:
First HTC now Samsung? Really wtf :/
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I777 using xda premium
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I quote from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CarrierIQ
"On December 1, 2011, AT&T, Sprint and T-Mobile confirmed it was on their phones."
"Sprint said, "We collect enough information to understand the customer experience with devices on our network and how to address any connection problems" ... "The information collected is not sold and we don't provide a direct feed of this data to anyone outside of Sprint.""
"Apple, HTC and Samsung said the software was installed on their phones. "
"Apple said it had quit supporting the application in iOS 5. "
"Nokia and Research in Motion said it categorically was not authorized for their phones. However, this does not prevent mobile carriers from installing it after the phone is manufactured."
"According to the company's website the software is also installed on NEC mobile devices, and the company has a partnership with Vodafone Portugal."
Dude carrier IQ aint gonna change sh*t on your phone besides your not even in the US ... If your worried so much install CM 7 which is cq free and check !
My wife just got in her Essential phone and is on Consumer Cellular, she is having an issue receiving MMS from her friends, as it always says "Pending download". She turned off wi-fi (I saw this in another thread) but it still won't work (although mine come thru just fine). I know this is an APN issue as she just put the card in and went to town but she doesn't have the option to change the APN settings. How can we change the settings?
We figured it out, just had to "Clear network settings" and the APN's opened up for editing. Entered the data and restarted, works like a charm.
Essential phone
Hi, I've also got an essential phone and also use consumer Cellular, but I can't get my sim card to work in the essential phone. I've contacted the previous carrier, Sprint, and the phone is unlocked, and I've contacted consumer Cellular but nobody seems to know exactly what's going on with my phone. Did you have any problems like this? Can you help me at all?
Thanks
Greetings,
Although there are already a few threads here on XDA about the experiences and difficulties of getting a Oneplus 6T fully functional on Verizon Wireless, the reason for creating THIS thread is the lack of information currently out there for Verizon Wireless PREPAID customers.
To sum up, simply popping a Verizon SIM into a 6T will often yield a phone that cannot receive SMS/MMS messages, despite the OnePlus 6T being Verizon- certified. There are a few ways to fix this, such as getting a savvy Verizon Tier2 customer service rep to enable or provision CDMA_Less on your account for that SIM.
What is currently not clear is whether such methods apply to Verizon PREPAID customers, who appear to be afterthoughts to Verizon customer care from my reading of many nightmare experience posted online.
This thread is for people who want to use the OnePlus 6T with Verizon Prepaid. To help others who are in the same Big Red boat, please post your experiences -- what worked, what didn't, etc.
The following links are for reference on this circumstance:
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/9uizn1/oneplus_6t_activation_help_employees_help/
https://www.reddit.com/r/verizon/comments/9ur5mj/help_verizon_prepaid_oneplus_6t/
The process overall was a bit more difficult than Postpaid as I was told by the store rep that they had the option to enable CDMA-less on their end whereas with Prepaid it had to be done either via chat or through phone. Chat did not go anywhere for me.
Was chatting with the Verizon rep for 1+ hours and she tried to turn ON the CDMA-less feature which she did, but did not turn ON the HD-Voice. This made my calls not to go through but texts were working.
Went to the store and put in a brand new Verizon Prepaid SIM card, and was back to the same issue. No texts, only calls.
Called Verizon prepaid customer care and finally one knowledgable rep, tried and resolved the issue for me. He worked with me for about an hour. As per him, he did exactly what the chat rep did, except that he turned ON both the CDMA-less and HD-Voice feature. Also, since it kept showing both the SIM and the device were incompatible, he tried to associate the SIM/IMEI to a dummy and then turned ON CDMA-less + HD-Voice and then associated the actual SIM with the actual device IMEI. Throughout this whole process I had another phone with active line and the rep was on this line.
All in all, not a good experience. I'd think a device manufacturer would ensure such basic functionality of texting and calling would work perfectly fine with approved networks before shipping out the device. I guess not. Other than this issue, I'm happy with the device so far.
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As per him, he did exactly what the chat rep did, except that he turned ON both the CDMA-less and HD-Voice feature. Also, since it kept showing both the SIM and the device were incompatible, he tried to associate the SIM/IMEI to a dummy and then turned ON CDMA-less + HD-Voice and then associated the actual SIM with the actual device IMEI.
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Thanks for taking the time to post this....
Your experience in successfully activating Verizon Prepaid seems to correspond with one of the experiences linked in the OP wherein:
- The OP 6T IMEI was found "not compatible".
- Verizon Prepaid Care could NOT add the IMEI directly (unlike regular, postpaid Verizon care which could contact Engineering, sometimes 2-4 days, but sometimes immediately).
HERE'S THE ESSENTIAL WORKAROUND:
- The requirement of ANOTHER device (like a Pixel) IMEI that could be provisioned with CDMA_Less and HD-Voice. Once these features were successfully turned on for thisSIM
- The SIM could be added/associated with the OP 6T IMEI and then everything worked on Verizon Prepaid.
Out of curiosity, would you mind specifying the color, RAM, and storage capacity of your 6T? (It appears that different models of the 6T show up in Verizon's IMEI database)
reaper000 said:
Out of curiosity, would you mind specifying the color, RAM, and storage capacity of your 6T? (It appears that different models of the 6T show up in Verizon's IMEI database)
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No worries. Midnight Black/8GB/128gb. MyVerizon app shows it as 8/256GB version and I did ask Verizon Rep to change it and he said he will try, but was happy that he got the texting working for me. So I left it there.
hmmm feels like joining AA meeting.
hi, my name is akmsr and i am a verizon prepaid customer with oneplus 6T. its been 3 days without working sms/mms even after three sessions of calls/chats. the crushing feeling of being the second step-child is worsening........
I have a Nexus 6P that I am upgrading. Could they add the CDMA less and HD voice to it and then I can just swap the SIMs and activate the OP6T?
ybbad? said:
I have a Nexus 6P that I am upgrading. Could they add the CDMA less and HD voice to it and then I can just swap the SIMs and activate the OP6T?
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I would absolutely try that!
I'm about to try the same thing with an even older Nexus 6.
So If I were in your position, this is what I would do:
Once you have your Oneplus 6T in hand, ask Verizon Care to turn on CDMA-less and HD-Voice. You might have to walk into a corporate Verizon store or keep calling Care until you get someone knowledgeable. (I wouldn't do it before having the 6T in hand because it may be screw up service on your Nexus)
Or you try and do it yourself -- assuming as a Prepaid customer you have the same access to your account online that a Postpaid/regular Verizon customer does, per
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/help/verizon-to-to-sms-t3863352/post78089729
Note: nothing mentioned about HD-Voice, which may be on by default for Postpaid customers.
Once CDMA-less and HD-Voice are turned on, then switch out the SIM to your 6T. If it works fully (calls, data, send AND receive text), great!
If it doesn't work fully, then call Verizon Care again to associate the SIM with your 6T IMEI.
Hope it works out for you, and let us know...
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hmmm feels like joining AA meeting.
hi, my name is akmsr and i am a verizon prepaid customer with oneplus 6T. its been 3 days without working sms/mms even after three sessions of calls/chats. the crushing feeling of being the second step-child is worsening........
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Shouldn't need a support group, right?
But my experience with Verizon is that Prepaid customers are treated like unwanted stepchildren.
So support group it is.
akmsr said:
hmmm feels like joining AA meeting.
hi, my name is akmsr and i am a verizon prepaid customer with oneplus 6T. its been 3 days without working sms/mms even after three sessions of calls/chats. the crushing feeling of being the second step-child is worsening........
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Unfortunately,right or wrong (definitely wrong) that's life w/pre-paid service:
1st to feel the effects of network prioritization & little to no meaningful customer care.
reaper000 said:
assuming as a Prepaid customer you have the same access to your account online
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You don't. The online options are different. There's a "Change Device" option but if you try to switch online, you get an error message about an incompatibility between SIM and phone. You can switch using the automated prepaid customer support line but the texting problem occurs. Between the agents at the prepaid customer support calling center and online customer support chat, I have spent over five hours in the last 2 days trying to get it to work. I've explained that both CDMA_LESS and HDVOICE calling features need to be enabled. Either they fixed incoming SMS and ruined voice calling or reenabled voice calls but ruined incoming SMS.
I switched back to my old phone and SIM. Since my old phone is a Samsung S5 that takes a micro-SIM, I will try looking for the extra plastic I disposed of around the nano-SIM to make it a micro-SIM, re-enable the new SIM in the old phone, transfer the new SIM to Oneplus and see if that fixes it.
Nsane457 said:
You don't. The online options are different. There's a "Change Device" option but if you try to switch online, you get an error message about an incompatibility between SIM and phone.
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I switched back to my old phone and SIM. Since my old phone is a Samsung S5 that takes a micro-SIM, I will try looking for the extra plastic I disposed of around the nano-SIM to make it a micro-SIM, re-enable the new SIM in the old phone, transfer the new SIM to Oneplus and see if that fixes it.
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Thanks for the information, please let us know if your S5 (another device) workaround does the trick...
Good luck!
reaper000 said:
I would absolutely try that!
I'm about to try the same thing with an even older Nexus 6.
So If I were in your position, this is what I would do:
Once you have your Oneplus 6T in hand, ask Verizon Care to turn on CDMA-less and HD-Voice. You might have to walk into a corporate Verizon store or keep calling Care until you get someone knowledgeable. (I wouldn't do it before having the 6T in hand because it may be screw up service on your Nexus)
Or you try and do it yourself -- assuming as a Prepaid customer you have the same access to your account online that a Postpaid/regular Verizon customer does, per
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-6t/help/verizon-to-to-sms-t3863352/post78089729
Note: nothing mentioned about HD-Voice, which may be on by default for Postpaid customers.
Once CDMA-less and HD-Voice are turned on, then switch out the SIM to your 6T. If it works fully (calls, data, send AND receive text), great!
If it doesn't work fully, then call Verizon Care again to associate the SIM with your 6T IMEI.
Hope it works out for you, and let us know...
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reaper000 said:
Thanks for the information, please let us know if your S5 (another device) workaround does the trick...
Good luck!
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Nope. I'm done with Verizon. Switching in the next few days.
Verizon: Thank you for contacting the Verizon Wireless Chat Team. To better assist you please enter your question below.
You: Activate device
Verizon: All Chat reps are currently helping other customers. You'll be connected as soon as possible.
Marcus: Hi there! This is Marcus here, gladly chatting with you
Marcus: Thank you for contacting Verizon Prepaid Wireless Care!
Marcus: You reached the right person to help with the activation. I know how important this can be for you.
Marcus: Could you please confirm the phone number we are working on?
You: ***-***-****
You: Over the last 3 days I've talked to Verizon reps to get my Oneplus 6T to work with voice and incoming text messages. The only thing to try is to switch a new sim to my Samsung S5, enable CDMA_ROAM and HDVOICE, and then move the SIM to my Oneplus 6T.
Marcus: I see.
Marcus: Don't you worry, you reached the right person to check on the device and help getting it activated. I know how important this can be for you.
Marcus: For security purposes, would you please verify Account Security Code on file?
You: ****
Marcus: Thank you very much.
Marcus: May I please have the device ID (IMEI) and the SIM card number (ICCID) from the phone you would like activated. The IMEI and ICCID numbers can be found on the phone under Settings > About > Status.
Marcus: Nice phone by the way.
Marcus: I'm sorry. I haven't heard from you.
You: The IMEI of the Samsung is **************. SIM # is *****************.
Marcus: Thank you for that information.
Marcus: Just to confirm, you want to activate the 1+ 6T or the Samsung?
You: I want to activate the Samsung S5 with CDMA_LESS and HDVOICE features added. Then I want to move the SIM to the Oneplus 6T and see if Voice and SMS works.
Marcus: In this case, would it be better to provide me with the Oneplus 6T IMEI to add it on the account and confirm how the activation goes instead?
You: I have done that at least 8 times in the last 3 days, so no. First the S5.
Marcus: At your command.
Marcus: On it now.
Marcus: In the meantime, how is everything going today?
You: Ok.
Marcus: Glad to know that.
Marcus: You can turn the Samsung off and back on to activate it with the new sim card.
You: OK. Give me 2 minutes.
Marcus: Sure.
Marcus: I'm still with you.
You: It worked in my S%. Moved the sim to my OnePlus. Voice works but incoming sms still doesn't. I can give you my OnePlus IMEI if you want but I have no luck.
Marcus: Sure, in the meantime, you can go to settings, to do a reset network settings.
Marcus: For previous android version this is found under backup and reset. For recent ones it's under general management, then click on reset.
You: I don't see it. I'm using Android version 9 I believe.
Marcus: Bear with me a moment, please.
Marcus: When you go to settings, what is the first option you see.
You: I've restored default APN settings. I don't know if thats the same thing.
Marcus: Is it Connection or Air plane mode?
You: ok. Ive turned Air Plane mode off and on.
Marcus: I wanted to know what the first option is.
Marcus:
Marcus: Could you please confirm what the first option you see when you open your Oneplus 6T is?
Marcus: For me know to have a better idea.
You: Wi-Fi & internet
Marcus: Please scroll down and let me know if you see backup & reset.
You: No. There is a Backup option under the "Google" setting but no backup & reset setting.
Marcus: Please go back to settings, then let me know if you see an option named general management.
You: no.
Marcus: When you scroll down to the bottom, what is the last option do you see?
You: Why don't you call the Verizon contract customer service agents to help you since this is a known easily fixed issue with Onepus 6T that prepaid agents are still struggling with? The last option is "About phone".
Marcus: In my department I can only chat, besides we don't have this phone on our system yet. In other words, even though you would call over the phone, you would still be our eyes.
Marcus: Please bear with till we figure this out.
Marcus: Could you please turn the phone off then turn it back on?
You: OK. Voice still works, incoming messages still don't.
Marcus: Now, let's go back to settings and confirm the first 4 options you see.
Marcus: Before you tap on any other button*
You: "Wi-Fi & internet", "Bluetooth & device connection", "Display", "Apps & notifications"
Marcus: Thank you for that information.
Marcus: Allow me to provide you with a link that may have the instructions on how to do a reset network setting on the phone
Marcus: By the way, would that be ok doing a factory reset as well?
You: Sure.
Marcus: Great!
Marcus: Please Click Here to check on the reset.
Marcus: Please let me know if it was helpful.
You: That didn't help but I searched for the option "reset" on the phone and found "Reset Wi-Fi, mobile & bluetooth". I reset.
Marcus: Wonderful!
Marcus: That's the one.
Marcus: You can and and follow the prompts.
Marcus: Is there another one that says reset settings as well?
You: "Reset Wi-Fi, mobile $ bluetooth" , "Reset app preferences" and "Erase-all preferences"
You: Erase all data I mean
Marcus: Let's just erase all to do the factory reset. Is there anything on the phone that you didn't want to lose?
You: No. It's new.
You: OK. Erasing everything.
Marcus: Perfect!
Marcus: I really appreciate your time and patience working on it.
Marcus: You can setup the language and country, then you google account. After that select, set as new.
Marcus: The other options will be optional and will allow you to skip or do later.
You: OK. Dame problem. I have voice and data but no incoming messages. I know that the voice needs to connect through CDMA LTE with HDVOICE and the SMS messaging needs CDMA_LESS provisioning and can't go through CDMA. If that's set up and it doesn't work then there is nothing that can be done and I'll have to leave Verizon.
You: *Same
Marcus: What application do you use to send and receive texts?
Marcus: We will try different options.
You: Basic android messaging. Because your asking me that, it shows that you're not familiar with the issue specific to the device. It is a provisioning problem on your end.
Marcus: What happens is that there is many apps you can use to texts and one of them is our messaging app named message+.
Marcus: I'm confident that every is good on our end and will do everything possible to help you get a resolution. Could you please go to play store, download message+ and try to send a text again?
You: I have a phone that is certified to work with Verizon. It is new. It is unlocked and not carrier branded. I don't want Message+. I bought this phone so I could avoid your branded apps.
Marcus: And I respect that, I believe that is your phone and you have the right to do what you would like on it.
You: I'm confident that everything is not good on your end. I'm confident because of how many users with contract have this issue fixed and how many with prepaid don't.
Marcus: However, I would like to make check all the possible option to help you send and receive text. Another good option is to install facebook messenger on your phone and set it as your default message app like the regular message app the phone came with. Is that better for you?
You: Messenger+ is designed to use wifi when available so I don't want that. I want incoming sms fixed. Not a bandaid.
Marcus: How you feel right now is totally understandable, I understand that you may have had a negative interaction with one of our agents that could create this feeling. Right now, I'm focus on getting a resolution to help you. The facebook messenger can be used without Wi-Fi when you set it up as default messaging app.
You: Is it that you don't understand that the Facebook messenger app, like messenger+, uses wifi when available? I don't want that.
Marcus: I have use them myself just a few weeks ago.
Marcus: Used*
Marcus: It happens sometimes that the regular message app the phone came with experience some difficulties to work, trying a different message app can be helpful in that sense. There is more than 10 messaging apps on play store that you can use, like hangouts or tango.
You: Installing google messenger now, instead of Oneplus stock.
Marcus: You meant Facebook messenger?
You: I'm not installing anything from Facebook. Switched sms to the new app. Nothing.
Marcus: What error did you get when you try to send the text?
You: No error. Outgoin works. When someone tries to send to me they also get no error but I don't get the message.
Marcus: I sent 2 texts to your number did you get them?
You: No. I've been sending to myself but no messages. When an agent enables CDMA_LESS and it works, I suddenly get all messages but then voice doesn't work.
Marcus: Do you get the same issue when you use the Samsung phone?
You: No. This is my problem https://www.droid-life.com/2018/11/06/oneplus-6t-verizon-sms-issues/ https://www.androidauthority.com/verizon-oneplus-6t-how-to-922365/ . All solutions seem to work for contract customers but not prepaid customers.
Marcus: I see.
Marcus: This can be because prepaid and regular plans (postpaid) works on a different network. When a phone is just recently released it is available for our regular plans first then the prepaid version is built.
Marcus: As you can see I'm the 4th agent to work on this with you and the issue still persist while you don't have the same with the samsung phone.
Marcus: It's the phone that is not yet compatible with our prepaid network.
You: Thank you for your time. I'm receiving a SIM card from Unreal Mobile for $10 a month in the next few days. Until then I'll have to put the sim in my Samsung and leave Verizon in a few days.
Marcus: What you could do is wait till we have this phone available on our prepaid network to do a trade in. Basically changing it for a prepaid version when available as we don't have this phone yet on our network. Or you can change to a postpaid plan, the bright side is that being a prepaid customer already you can have a postpaid plan with no contracts attached.
You: No thanks. Bye.
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First, @Nsane457, thank you for posting the entire transcript -- outstanding to have all that info. But wow....
That. Was. HIDEOUS.
Totally horrendous (but unfortunately, completely believable) that Verizon "certifies" a phone... but for ONLY their postpaid customers.
You'd think that Verizon's vaunted certification (which a OnePlus executive said took a year to get for the 6T) applies to ALL the plans Verizon offers so unabashedly on their website.
Would you mind sharing what model of 6T you have (color, ram, storage)? Still trying to see if that makes a difference in successful Vzw activation...
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First, @Nsane457, thank you for posting the entire transcript -- outstanding to have all that info. But wow....
That. Was. HIDEOUS.
Totally horrendous (but unfortunately, completely believable) that Verizon "certifies" a phone... but for ONLY their postpaid customers.
You'd think that Verizon's vaunted certification (which a OnePlus executive said took a year to get for the 6T) applies to ALL the plans Verizon offers so unabashedly on their website.
Would you mind sharing what model of 6T you have (color, ram, storage)? Still trying to see if that makes a difference in successful Vzw activation...
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OnePlus 6T Midnight Black 8GB RAM + 128GB Storage
Nsane457 said:
You don't. The online options are different. There's a "Change Device" option but if you try to switch online, you get an error message about an incompatibility between SIM and phone. You can switch using the automated prepaid customer support line but the texting problem occurs. Between the agents at the prepaid customer support calling center and online customer support chat, I have spent over five hours in the last 2 days trying to get it to work.
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this is correct, in a change device option. you get to input new verizon device id (imei for android) and reason for switch. then you get the unspecified compatibility error. so it seems only the phones that verizon sells are allowed for switch.
has anyone tried installing my verizon and verizons version of messaging app to see if it works? just saying.....
[probably solved] verizon prepaid and oneplus 6T fiasco
hi fellow members,
the fiasco of no sms/mms is probably solved without calling/chatting with useless prepaid tech support( not knocking the hard working helpful people, just the retarded greedy mofo company they work for for limiting tech's ability to heal us). at least its working for me for the last half hour. i made several phone calls back and forth with 2 different friends, multiple texts also back and forth and mms too. as a matter of fact i turned on the hotspot, tethered my laptop and writing this post from laptop. also received 2 phonecalls and called back while writing this.
8gb/256gb version, used sim1 (furthest from the handle).
sent myself couple of text and one picture. as usual nothing. asked a friend for text, also nothing. went to dialer---- *#*#4636#*#* that took me to phone info. i changed the preferred network to lte/td-scdma within couple of seconds it got signal and some spaces started filling in with data. showed my phone number imei etc. showed voice is connected but data was disconnected. so with trial and error i figured out that the usual menu option in android (3 dots in upper right corner) has option to enable data. boom data is connected, signal shows lte and volte. there is a button to run ping test. after clicking all three tests passed. at the bottom left of the page there was a career provisioning something. i hit it for good measure :laugh::laugh: 2 options were on automatically, but voice over wifi was greyed out, backed out of that page and all texts images poured in. i called and exchanged texts since then success.
so why probably in the title?
1. you guys should try it and see if it works for you.
2. i was so happy i wanted to share first. i have not rebooted the phone since, dont know if it is going to stick
good luck to us all.
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success for me. i rebooted, sent myself 1 text. 1 image, worked. tethering again and posting this.
@reaper000
if it works for you could you please change the title of thread so other people can notice thanks.
I tried my wife's Verizon prepaid sim card and volte and SMS works in my phone. Didn't do anything just popped the Sim in. Though voice over WiFi didn't work.
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How about adding another layer to this stinky onion. I'm on TotalWireless, a Verizon prepaid MVNO.
I cannot get anywhere with support. I spent 5 hours troubleshooting this yesterday and another 3 today. I've been on the phone and in chats with some of the most incompetent people I've ever had the opportunity of encountering. I tried with every ounce of my being to be civil and amicable with them, but they have managed to get me to the verge of a blind rage.
They are now rufusing to help me for 72 hours because "you have called in too many times about this issue and it's not fixed so we have made a note on your account to wait 72 hours to see if it is resolved." When I called in the last time the agent gave me the silent treatment, when I then asked to speak with a representative about canceling the account because of how bad the experience has been she said to please wait and I listened to call center background noises and typing while she continued to give me the silent treatment for 5 minutes. Then I hung up.
This is a serious issue with Verizon not having their crap together with LTE only unlocked devices, but I also think this is partly on OnePlus, because being on an MVNO I'm locked out of creating a APN in OxygenOS when Verizon is the defualt APN on the SIM. I had to unlock my bootloader, root, and use a third party tool to create the APN. I can also pop my SIM into my wife's Essential PH-1 and not have an issue, so OnePlus is missing some programming somewhere I think that makes this much harder than it has to be.
SamClem said:
How about adding another layer to this stinky onion. I'm on TotalWireless, a Verizon prepaid MVNO.
I cannot get anywhere with support. I spent 5 hours troubleshooting this yesterday and another 3 today. I've been on the phone and in chats with some of the most incompetent people I've ever had the opportunity of encountering. I tried with every ounce of my being to be civil and amicable with them, but they have managed to get me to the verge of a blind rage.
They are now rufusing to help me for 72 hours because "you have called in too many times about this issue and it's not fixed so we have made a note on your account to wait 72 hours to see if it is resolved." When I called in the last time the agent gave me the silent treatment, when I then asked to speak with a representative about canceling the account because of how bad the experience has been she said to please wait and I listened to call center background noises and typing while she continued to give me the silent treatment for 5 minutes. Then I hung up.
This is a serious issue with Verizon not having their crap together with LTE only unlocked devices, but I also think this is partly on OnePlus, because being on an MVNO I'm locked out of creating a APN in OxygenOS when Verizon is the defualt APN on the SIM. I had to unlock my bootloader, root, and use a third party tool to create the APN. I can also pop my SIM into my wife's Essential PH-1 and not have an issue, so OnePlus is missing some programming somewhere I think that makes this much harder than it has to be.
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You are not alone...im a Verizon user even it not a pre-pair i cant even get verizon work property on my device while other got it work property...i experience that first day i received device pop verizon sim on it everything work then a day later completely gone no signal nothing...so i swap my sim to slot 2 and services come back...but today nah both of them gone cant make either,slot,work...went to verizon store,got new,sim...but didn't work out either...seem like Verizon block my sim but when i swap,to,my old device,everything work...kinda weird...but imma return the device tomorrow cant be more frustrating...hope everything work out for,you!
All,
I have a Xfinity mobile service. I got myself a 6T which I am trying to get it work with Xfinity mobile.
Currently there are no problem except for incoming messages
Tested my SIM-Card with a
1) LG-X-Charge (from Xfinity)
2) S7+, flashed with custom ROM compatible with xfinity.
3) Essentials PH-1 (out of the box)
None of the above have any problem. I just pop the sim into any of the above phones, I have all the services without any problem even the incoming text messages.
I called into the Tier-2 advanced support spoke to a gentleman, who tried his best to make things good. He removed the "PREMIUM MESSAGE BLOCK" and tried enabling CDMA-less feature. But at the I figured we made no progress but make my APN stick to wrong address(VZINTERNET, compared to COMCAST.RSLR.VZWENTP). He has created a ticket to register my IMEI manually with Verizon to provision incoming text messages
I noticed (via *#*#4636#*#*) in s7+ and PH-1 the preferred network type get set to "unknown" when the phone reboot, as to "TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS" in 6T. I tried changing the type to unknown in 6T, but no luck there.
After these trial and errors, I believe its not the network that is causing the Issue but the device itself.
Any network/software gurus here can you help regarding the same?
I can upload whatever logs you may want to see.
sresam89 said:
All,
I have a Xfinity mobile service. I got myself a 6T which I am trying to get it work with Xfinity mobile.
Currently there are no problem except for incoming messages
Tested my SIM-Card with a
1) LG-X-Charge (from Xfinity)
2) S7+, flashed with custom ROM compatible with xfinity.
3) Essentials PH-1 (out of the box)
None of the above have any problem. I just pop the sim into any of the above phones, I have all the services without any problem even the incoming text messages.
I called into the Tier-2 advanced support spoke to a gentleman, who tried his best to make things good. He removed the "PREMIUM MESSAGE BLOCK" and tried enabling CDMA-less feature. But at the I figured we made no progress but make my APN stick to wrong address(VZINTERNET, compared to COMCAST.RSLR.VZWENTP). He has created a ticket to register my IMEI manually with Verizon to provision incoming text messages
I noticed (via *#*#4636#*#*) in s7+ and PH-1 the preferred network type get set to "unknown" when the phone reboot, as to "TD-SCDMA/CDMA/UMTS" in 6T. I tried changing the type to unknown in 6T, but no luck there.
After these trial and errors, I believe its not the network that is causing the Issue but the device itself.
Any network/software gurus here can you help regarding the same?
I can upload whatever logs you may want to see.
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so fun fact xfinity isnt compatible for text incoming on the 6t i know cause i had them lol and its an issue with their system and they dont have the "cdma-less" option like verizon does which is stupid as they share the network
Alpha_wolf said:
so fun fact xfinity isnt compatible for text incoming on the 6t i know cause i had them lol and its an issue with their system and they dont have the "cdma-less" option like verizon does which is stupid as they share the network
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So you say there is no way around it or breaking my head/time for it rather change network?
Also as they share network, if 6T is recognized in verizon network, should that not be enough to provision incoming texts?
Another thing I wonder is, how every other device other than 6T is receiving texts? (PH1/S7+....)
sresam89 said:
So you say there is no way around it or breaking my head/time for it rather change network?
Also as they share network, if 6T is recognized in verizon network, should that not be enough to provision incoming texts?
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thats what i thought but it wasnt the case at all xfinity has a set amount of devices they support and thats why they dont support byod for android for that reason
Alpha_wolf said:
thats what i thought but it wasnt the case at all xfinity has a set amount of devices they support and thats why they dont support byod for android for that reason
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I kind of disagree there, they do support a lot of devices which are not in their list out-of-the-box (for e.g PH1)
Not sure you read my update
Why is every other BYOD android does not have a problem except 6T
sresam89 said:
Not sure you read my update
Why is every other BYOD android does not have a problem except 6T
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i did and i had that question too cause i used a z3play unlocked and multiple other unlocked devices that worked with verizon but they told me it was the reason i said earlier so that all i had to go on so i changed carriers given they had bad services where i live as does verizon so ya
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i did and i had that question too cause i used a z3play unlocked and multiple other unlocked devices that worked with verizon but they told me it was the reason i said earlier so that all i had to go on so i changed carriers given they had bad services where i live as does verizon so ya
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so may be with time 6T will also be supported by XM?
I have T-Mobile since 9.12 ota I had issues all I did was wipe data on messages force closed rebooted and its working so far
Hello,
I am new to this site, and have a burning question I am trying to find an answer for.
So AT&T has been my carrier since about 2014. In July of 2019, I purchased an unlocked S8 from Amazon for about $350 Description says it is: Samsung Galaxy S8 64GB Factory Unlocked Smartphone - US Version (Midnight Black) - US Warranty - [SM-G950UZKAXAA]. In the settings, the model number is listed as: SM-G950U1.
Recently, I received a message from AT&T saying that they are shutting down their 3G network in February of 2022, and that my phone will no longer work on their network. I went into one of their stores and showed them that my phone operates on LTE, but I was told that is for data only and voice operates on 3G. I could not remember the VoLTE name at the time, but mentioned that my phone had the capability to operate on LTE. They refused to go thru settings with me, and told me that my phone will stop working in February. Period. End of story. Also, I was told the same thing that the message states, that they are sending me a new phone and will be deactivating my phone after 30 days.
Now some of my friends are laughing at me saying, "Dang free phones!" But I do not want a 5G phone (which is obviously what they are sending). I have my reasons and this is not what I wish to discuss here.
The issue is... I love my telephone!! It does exactly what I want, and I don't need anything new. Not to mention that I paid for it entirely, with no subsidy from AT&T. I specifically bought it unlocked with intentions of avoiding contracts and having the ability to switch carriers if I so choose.
I am pretty sure that I saw VoLTE mentioned in my settings a while back. But now a search on my phone finds nothing. I assume a firmware update hid this info from me.
So... what gives? Does anybody here know if this particular device can make/receive voice calls using VoLTE - on AT&T (or any other carriers) - simply by changing settings in the phone? Do I have any options to make my phone continue to operate as intended? With any carrier?
Sorry for the long post. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Steve
willnotbecontrolled said:
Hello,
I am new to this site, and have a burning question I am trying to find an answer for.
So AT&T has been my carrier since about 2014. In July of 2019, I purchased an unlocked S8 from Amazon for about $350 Description says it is: Samsung Galaxy S8 64GB Factory Unlocked Smartphone - US Version (Midnight Black) - US Warranty - [SM-G950UZKAXAA]. In the settings, the model number is listed as: SM-G950U1.
Recently, I received a message from AT&T saying that they are shutting down their 3G network in February of 2022, and that my phone will no longer work on their network. I went into one of their stores and showed them that my phone operates on LTE, but I was told that is for data only and voice operates on 3G. I could not remember the VoLTE name at the time, but mentioned that my phone had the capability to operate on LTE. They refused to go thru settings with me, and told me that my phone will stop working in February. Period. End of story. Also, I was told the same thing that the message states, that they are sending me a new phone and will be deactivating my phone after 30 days.
Now some of my friends are laughing at me saying, "Dang free phones!" But I do not want a 5G phone (which is obviously what they are sending). I have my reasons and this is not what I wish to discuss here.
The issue is... I love my telephone!! It does exactly what I want, and I don't need anything new. Not to mention that I paid for it entirely, with no subsidy from AT&T. I specifically bought it unlocked with intentions of avoiding contracts and having the ability to switch carriers if I so choose.
I am pretty sure that I saw VoLTE mentioned in my settings a while back. But now a search on my phone finds nothing. I assume a firmware update hid this info from me.
So... what gives? Does anybody here know if this particular device can make/receive voice calls using VoLTE - on AT&T (or any other carriers) - simply by changing settings in the phone? Do I have any options to make my phone continue to operate as intended? With any carrier?
Sorry for the long post. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Steve
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Same issue with crickett (att).
got that txt msg, recently maybe december there was a firmware update that greyed out my network settings and hid some items.
i cant even change my prefered network, 3g 4g lte etc, its locked..
I have the 950u1 also
HOWEVER I have a s8 950U that I think has all these unlocked.
Im going to backup and odin flash the U firmware to the UI and see if it works.
Thats bull**** about doing this. greedy ****s..
I go with somone else if I have to.
willnotbecontrolled said:
Hello,
I am new to this site, and have a burning question I am trying to find an answer for.
So AT&T has been my carrier since about 2014. In July of 2019, I purchased an unlocked S8 from Amazon for about $350 Description says it is: Samsung Galaxy S8 64GB Factory Unlocked Smartphone - US Version (Midnight Black) - US Warranty - [SM-G950UZKAXAA]. In the settings, the model number is listed as: SM-G950U1.
Recently, I received a message from AT&T saying that they are shutting down their 3G network in February of 2022, and that my phone will no longer work on their network. I went into one of their stores and showed them that my phone operates on LTE, but I was told that is for data only and voice operates on 3G. I could not remember the VoLTE name at the time, but mentioned that my phone had the capability to operate on LTE. They refused to go thru settings with me, and told me that my phone will stop working in February. Period. End of story. Also, I was told the same thing that the message states, that they are sending me a new phone and will be deactivating my phone after 30 days.
Now some of my friends are laughing at me saying, "Dang free phones!" But I do not want a 5G phone (which is obviously what they are sending). I have my reasons and this is not what I wish to discuss here.
The issue is... I love my telephone!! It does exactly what I want, and I don't need anything new. Not to mention that I paid for it entirely, with no subsidy from AT&T. I specifically bought it unlocked with intentions of avoiding contracts and having the ability to switch carriers if I so choose.
I am pretty sure that I saw VoLTE mentioned in my settings a while back. But now a search on my phone finds nothing. I assume a firmware update hid this info from me.
So... what gives? Does anybody here know if this particular device can make/receive voice calls using VoLTE - on AT&T (or any other carriers) - simply by changing settings in the phone? Do I have any options to make my phone continue to operate as intended? With any carrier?
Sorry for the long post. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Steve
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press phone icon, then top right corner hit the 3 vertical dots.
select settings and it should be in there if you havent updated lately... they ****ed us and locked out network and volte settings.
djmdesign said:
Same issue with crickett (att).
got that txt msg, recently maybe december there was a firmware update that greyed out my network settings and hid some items.
i cant even change my prefered network, 3g 4g lte etc, its locked..
I have the 950u1 also
HOWEVER I have a s8 950U that I think has all these unlocked.
Im going to backup and odin flash the U firmware to the UI and see if it works.
Thats bull**** about doing this. greedy ****s..
I go with somone else if I have to.
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Please let me know if this works. I thought about doing the same thing, but have not gotten around to trying it. In theory, it sounds like a solid plan. But I have a couple of concerns.
During a recent phone call, AT&T told me their system has flagged my IMEI and that my phone will stop working very soon. So, if the system flagged an IMEI as an unsupported device, will it even matter which firmware is installed? Or will their system just deactivate the phone at some point?
Second, if you install the 950U firmware in place of the 950U1, will the device become carrier locked at this point? That would really suck if it did.
BTW, I was able to lock preferred network to “LTE only” by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and entering Device information screen. Unfortunately, my phone would not complete a call when using LTE only setting. VoLTE provisioned toggle is greyed out, along with others. Seems to me that if a guy could self provision VoLTE, this would solve the issue.
I called AT&T tech support and spent 45 minutes trying to get them to provision VoLTE, but they could not, or would not do it. At first, they kept telling me that my phone is a 3G phone. I argued that I could change the radio to “LTE only” and that my sim card status showed LTE for “mobile voice network type”, which proves that the phone is indeed LTE capable for voice calls - but that it will not complete a call because it is not provisioned to do so. Eventually they told me that their system would not allow them to provision VoLTE for me, since it is flagged as an unsupported device. Which leads back to the first part of this post.
I also found some stuff on reddit about putting the phone into “engineering mode” and something about a Samsung tool that unlocks additional dialer codes. Have not tried this, tho.
At this point, I am just completely fed up with AT&T for this whole S8 situation, as well as other unrelated issues. I will most likely switch carriers for principle’s sake, even though I know other carriers play similar games.
Anyway, I am interested in whether or not you find a solution and would very much like to hear about it. Thank you for the response!!
willnotbecontrolled said:
Please let me know if this works. I thought about doing the same thing, but have not gotten around to trying it. In theory, it sounds like a solid plan. But I have a couple of concerns.
During a recent phone call, AT&T told me their system has flagged my IMEI and that my phone will stop working very soon. So, if the system flagged an IMEI as an unsupported device, will it even matter which firmware is installed? Or will their system just deactivate the phone at some point?
Second, if you install the 950U firmware in place of the 950U1, will the device become carrier locked at this point? That would really suck if it did.
BTW, I was able to lock preferred network to “LTE only” by dialing *#*#4636#*#* and entering Device information screen. Unfortunately, my phone would not complete a call when using LTE only setting. VoLTE provisioned toggle is greyed out, along with others. Seems to me that if a guy could self provision VoLTE, this would solve the issue.
I called AT&T tech support and spent 45 minutes trying to get them to provision VoLTE, but they could not, or would not do it. At first, they kept telling me that my phone is a 3G phone. I argued that I could change the radio to “LTE only” and that my sim card status showed LTE for “mobile voice network type”, which proves that the phone is indeed LTE capable for voice calls - but that it will not complete a call because it is not provisioned to do so. Eventually they told me that their system would not allow them to provision VoLTE for me, since it is flagged as an unsupported device. Which leads back to the first part of this post.
I also found some stuff on reddit about putting the phone into “engineering mode” and something about a Samsung tool that unlocks additional dialer codes. Have not tried this, tho.
At this point, I am just completely fed up with AT&T for this whole S8 situation, as well as other unrelated issues. I will most likely switch carriers for principle’s sake, even though I know other carriers play similar games.
Anyway, I am interested in whether or not you find a solution and would very much like to hear about it. Thank you for the response!!
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Hi, I'm Newbie around here. I'd like to share my experience with ATT and my beloved S8+ this past few months:
Much like you and many others I started receiving texts from ATT by mid 2021 saying my phone would not work after Feb '22. Yes, every time they suspended my line I wasted 30~ 40 mins on the phone, listening how they would insist my S8+ was a 3G phone. It didn't matter that I offered to send them screenshots of my device showing the "VoLTE option" and "4G LTE" while both in the USA and Mexico. Thing is, they only based their saying on a st....id whitelist and all the reps are just talking heads.
I use an S8+ international version which is NOT on the dreaded list. and I am on the 300/year prepaid plan which allows roaming between Mexico and USA with no 50/50 usage limit.
I bought this phone on amazon for 350-ish bucks a couple of years ago and I love it!
I have to cross the Mexico/USA border very frequently and I need two separate numbers one on each country for business reasons so dual sim is a must. On the other hand, I receive lots and lots of phone calls while driving, this made me crave for android 8.1 when call recording was allowed by google, not the case anymore. None of these 2 features are available on the S8/S9 US based phones. I do not need 5G, I do not use social media nor watch videos on my phone but do get to use Pandora, Spotify, MLB radio and so on......... Enter SM-G955F/DS. I was able to change Samsung's CSC code to Israel so call recording is active for all those notes I cannot write down while driving and I get to carry just one device with 2 separate numbers thanks to a dual sim.
Ok, so back to my phone not being on the f... list :
Around Feb 10th, I got yet another email and SMS telling me it was my last opportunity to change or I MAY be disconnected after 2/22/22 ( funny choice of date huh?). I noticed that words on email and text messages had been changed from WILL NOT on Jul/2021 to MAY NOT work on Feb/2022. Since I know for a fact that my phone is VoLTE capable, I figured my S8+ would work as long as AT&T did not intentionally disconnected my line.
So, I took a crappy phoenix ATT phone and updated it's IMEI on my account via the ATT prepaid webpage. After getting "approval" from ATT's system, I put the SIM card in and used it for a full weekend. After that, I put the SIM card back to my S8+ and it is still going strong to date.
Today is March 1st, and I have been weary of ATT sneaking me out of their system but fortunately it has not happened yet. Needless to say, I have not updated my S8's IMEI on ATT's webpage and do not intend to do so.
Now, This "proves" that my phone is indeed capable of using VoLTE and HD , and all those things ATT said it would not do is just plain B.S.. if they disconnect me down the road I would definitely move to T Mobile although I would have some issues with the 50/50 international roaming and I still have 8 months left on my prepaid annual plan with ATT so, keeping my fingers crossed.
AT&T just wants to make more money out of selling new 5G devices while getting rid of their stocked 4G phones.
I wouldn't mind if they just plain out stated " If you do not buy from ATT then ATT will not support your device and will not sell service to you" then again, it would probably be a PR nightmare for them although they do that for WIFI calling anyways.
Ain't it funny how 2/22/22 is coincidentally a paycheck's time ( 2 weeks) after a new flagship phone (S22) was made available for purchase ?
Anyways, enough for ranting and conspiracy theories lol...
I have taken out and put back to my S8+ the SIM card two times in the past 9 days after 2/22/22 and my service is still in good standing.
Maybe if you got a new replacement phone that you don't like, you may swap back your SIM card and it MAY work just like mine is even if it is NOT ON THE INFAMOUS WHITE LIST.
Oldschoolguy said:
Hi, I'm Newbie around here. I'd like to share my experience with ATT and my beloved S8+ this past few months:
Much like you and many others I started receiving texts from ATT by mid 2021 saying my phone would not work after Feb '22. Yes, every time they suspended my line I wasted 30~ 40 mins on the phone, listening how they would insist my S8+ was a 3G phone. It didn't matter that I offered to send them screenshots of my device showing the "VoLTE option" and "4G LTE" while both in the USA and Mexico. Thing is, they only based their saying on a st....id whitelist and all the reps are just talking heads.
I use an S8+ international version which is NOT on the dreaded list. and I am on the 300/year prepaid plan which allows roaming between Mexico and USA with no 50/50 usage limit.
I bought this phone on amazon for 350-ish bucks a couple of years ago and I love it!
I have to cross the Mexico/USA border very frequently and I need two separate numbers one on each country for business reasons so dual sim is a must. On the other hand, I receive lots and lots of phone calls while driving, this made me crave for android 8.1 when call recording was allowed by google, not the case anymore. None of these 2 features are available on the S8/S9 US based phones. I do not need 5G, I do not use social media nor watch videos on my phone but do get to use Pandora, Spotify, MLB radio and so on......... Enter SM-G955F/DS. I was able to change Samsung's CSC code to Israel so call recording is active for all those notes I cannot write down while driving and I get to carry just one device with 2 separate numbers thanks to a dual sim.
Ok, so back to my phone not being on the f... list :
Around Feb 10th, I got yet another email and SMS telling me it was my last opportunity to change or I MAY be disconnected after 2/22/22 ( funny choice of date huh?). I noticed that words on email and text messages had been changed from WILL NOT on Jul/2021 to MAY NOT work on Feb/2022. Since I know for a fact that my phone is VoLTE capable, I figured my S8+ would work as long as AT&T did not intentionally disconnected my line.
So, I took a crappy phoenix ATT phone and updated it's IMEI on my account via the ATT prepaid webpage. After getting "approval" from ATT's system, I put the SIM card in and used it for a full weekend. After that, I put the SIM card back to my S8+ and it is still going strong to date.
Today is March 1st, and I have been weary of ATT sneaking me out of their system but fortunately it has not happened yet. Needless to say, I have not updated my S8's IMEI on ATT's webpage and do not intend to do so.
Now, This "proves" that my phone is indeed capable of using VoLTE and HD , and all those things ATT said it would not do is just plain B.S.. if they disconnect me down the road I would definitely move to T Mobile although I would have some issues with the 50/50 international roaming and I still have 8 months left on my prepaid annual plan with ATT so, keeping my fingers crossed.
AT&T just wants to make more money out of selling new 5G devices while getting rid of their stocked 4G phones.
I wouldn't mind if they just plain out stated " If you do not buy from ATT then ATT will not support your device and will not sell service to you" then again, it would probably be a PR nightmare for them although they do that for WIFI calling anyways.
Ain't it funny how 2/22/22 is coincidentally a paycheck's time ( 2 weeks) after a new flagship phone (S22) was made available for purchase ?
Anyways, enough for ranting and conspiracy theories lol...
I have taken out and put back to my S8+ the SIM card two times in the past 9 days after 2/22/22 and my service is still in good standing.
Maybe if you got a new replacement phone that you don't like, you may swap back your SIM card and it MAY work just like mine is even if it is NOT ON THE INFAMOUS WHITE LIST.
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Yep... AT&T is full of it. I got sick of wasting my time and energy trying to fight this. I eventually just switched over to TMo, and I have been running around with my S8's radio set to LTE only. No issues whatsoever. Great cell service, $30 bucks a month cheaper, all fees included in the flat rate, and a free Netflix account, to boot.
See ya AT&T!!! I hope some group with the the gumption and time takes you to court for your deceptive trade practices. I hope you lose lots of customers, time, and money for your douchery!!!
Has anyone looked into potentially using ODIN to use AT&T's firmware on the unbranded G950U1 without rooting to see if it adds the VoLTE software feature? Does anyone know if that flashing will disable (permanently break) samsung pay? I don't want any rooting since that will permanently break samsung pay on the hardware.