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Nexus 6P Unlocked can be used on all carriers. Will there be a Galaxy S7 Unlocked which follows? I will be sold if so...
You cant just buy a phone from a carrier and expect to flash an unlocked ROM on it. Partitions are different most of the time, etc...
My main concern is the speed of which updates are released. A carrier phone can take months longer than an unlocked phone. Yeah you can download custom ROMs here on XDA, but it's not the same and could have issues due to carrier kernel not being released.
Definitely a make or break deal for me at this point...
I really wished there was, but so far all of the carrier models have different bands, and I haven't heard of a US unlocked model that works for all of them.
I can't decide if it is worth the fight, or if I should just fall in line, and buy at&t's Fort Knox Edition.
They're a little more pricy (read +$200/300), but you can pre-order unlocked Qualcomm variants on eBay.
It's a hell of a markup, but if you're already paying $800 for a phone you're gonna use for the next couple years, may as well get one that's unlocked and will do what you want i.e. run AOSP, no?
aramisathei said:
They're a little more pricy (read +$200/300), but you can pre-order unlocked Qualcomm variants on eBay.
It's a hell of a markup, but if you're already paying $800 for a phone you're gonna use for the next couple years, may as well get one that's unlocked and will do what you want i.e. run AOSP, no?
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I'm sorry, but there's no reason anyone should be paying more than $800 for an S7 Edge, even if it's unlocked.
geoff5093 said:
I'm sorry, but there's no reason anyone should be paying more than $800 for an S7 Edge, even if it's unlocked.
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Agreed, S7 Edge should be about $800 unlocked tops. Unfortunately there won't be unlocked phones until the actual release.
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I'm sorry, but there's no reason anyone should be paying more than $800 for an S7 Edge, even if it's unlocked.
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Different folks different strokes.
I paid $816 for mine. Still cheaper than signing contracts when said and done.
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Tidbits said:
Different folks different strokes.
I paid $816 for mine. Still cheaper than signing contracts when said and done.
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I meant before taxes
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What was the time between the Samsung s6 edge pre-order and when the unlocked international versions came out? Because my UK s6 edge is soooooooo much better than the AT&T US version I originally bought and returned. I definitely want to just skip to the UK unlocked version this time around... but, of course, I don't want to wait a long time.
I'm assuming the s7 rollout will be similar, so that will let us know when the unlocked Samsung s7 edges can be expected. (I was an iPhone person until recently, so I don't know my Samsung history).
Thanks in advance for any info.
(For anyone wondering, not only was there that US AT&T bloatware nonsense -- but they actually removed cool things Samsung had added and removed deals and freeware Samsung had added to the phone. Just crazy. Things would be mentioned in the manual and not be on the phone anywhere. And then of course the bad updates as well.)
im the guy waiting for S7edge with S820 and choosing Snapdragon is of course to get update faster and support by the custom rom community than Exynos version.
As one of a guy responded in Reddit chat is to start ordering UNLOCKED SIM Samsung S7 from ebay would be the easiest and fastest option... I am ouside of US and really don't want to wait indefinitely their not-sure-release-date Carrier Unlocked version. Below is the one that I am watching closely. As it said Pre-order, I am a bit afraid of the RISK of ordering a phone that cost >1000$ without seeing actual unlocked & S820 phone as they mention.
[EDIT: can't put links due to lower posts count] googled this eBay item number:281944393668
tmobile unlock or wait?
I'm in the same boat here, although my situation is a little unique. I'm on Tmobile right now but I'm going to move to Thailand this summer, so the phone needs to be unlocked. According to tmobile they'll unlock the phone after i'ts been on the network for 40 days (I'm planning on buying it upfront). Should I go that route or just wait until the unlocked version shows up on amazon and just buy that?
Cheers
(Also, does anyone know how long it took for the unlocked s6 to show up on amazon?)
40 days of service active if you actually on postpaid. If it is prepaid it's $100 worth of payments.
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All the carriers get the unlock code from Samsung... if you contact Samsung, T-Mobile users might not need to wait the 40 days. I just preordered the T-Mobile S7 Edge, and I'm with AT&T.
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All the carriers get the unlock code from Samsung... if you contact Samsung, T-Mobile users might not need to wait the 40 days. I just preordered the T-Mobile S7 Edge, and I'm with AT&T.
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Did you have to get a mobile plan with them? They told me at the store that is the only way
T-Mobile no longer use codes. They use a unlock app. There is no way so far to input any codes to date on the devices that have it preinstalled.
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Hey how do Samsung's devices do on Verizon?. Will there be less development for devices from Verizon? Are they locked down a lot more and harder to root? It he a deal breaker for me. Anyone have any idea ?
Would a Verizon phone work well on tmobile?
Yes but the bootloader will be locked down.
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Well the Verizon will work well in most cases on T-Mobile however Verizon phones will always have a locked down bootloader. So if you buy it be prepared to potentially never unlock it for a very long time.
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Yes but the bootloader will be locked down.
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Well the Verizon will work well in most cases on T-Mobile however Verizon phones will always have a locked down bootloader. So if you buy it be prepared to potentially never unlock it for a very long time.
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Thanks! So the best option would be Tmo?
If you want Wi-Fi calling , RCS, and VoLTE it's probably preferred. If you plan on rooting and custom Roms. Then T-Mobile is a good choice. T-Mobile for the past 4 years has always left it up to the manufacturer to either lock it or leave it. So far all but Sony have unlocked or unlockable bootloaders.
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I recently discovered that there is no Samsung Pay on my S7E, and I can't install it from the Play store. When I install the apk, I get an error saying it can't connect to the server.
I received my phone from 232tech, which appears to be a G935F made for the middle East and north Africa, since there's a sticker on the box that says that, but I thought this wouldn't be a problem because the phone was region unlocked prior to me opening it.
Anyone else getting the same issue? I'd love to use Samsung Pay.
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I recently discovered that there is no Samsung Pay on my S7E, and I can't install it from the Play store. When I install the apk, I get an error saying it can't connect to the server.
I received my phone from 232tech, which appears to be a G935F made for the middle East and north Africa, since there's a sticker on the box that says that, but I thought this wouldn't be a problem because the phone was region unlocked prior to me opening it.
Anyone else getting the same issue? I'd love to use Samsung Pay.
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Samsung Pay, Android Pay and Apple Pay is currently only available in the US.
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Samsung Pay, Android Pay and Apple Pay is currently only available in the US.
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I am aware, I live in the USA.
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I am aware, I live in the USA.
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Arh, sounded like an european trying to get it to work. As far as i'm aware, it only works on the US (Snapdragon) variant and will not work in other countries (or models) before they release it the international version, so not much you can do as far as I know.
Go to apkmirror.come and download/install it.
the IMEI is not associated with region with samsung pay, and even if it will, it will not be the correct region that will accept your card unless your bank is from middle east and north africa, so no, you wont be able to use samsung pay on your phone
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the IMEI is not associated with region with samsung pay, and even if it will, it will not be the correct region that will accept your card unless your bank is from middle east and north africa, so no, you wont be able to use samsung pay on your phone
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Ah, I feel as if this is vital information! Good thing a android pay still works though. Part of the reason why I purchased this S7E is because touchwiz is pretty decent, and there's no need to root or run a custom ROM (IMO, of course). If Samsung Pay was higher on the priority list, this may have been a deal breaker
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So I'm on like my 4th S7 edge. I keep breaking them and getting them replaced through insurance. Well, AT&T decided my last replacement was too many so they canceled my coverage. Not to worry, I have WorthAve Group covering me now and I just received my replacement the other day. I decided to go the unlocked international route and got a SM-G935F (XSG) United Arab Emirates. As soon as popped my AT&T SIM in it immediately downloaded the Nougat update. It's working great, speed is fantastic, functionality as far as I can tell is great, no major issues.
There's a few differences I see I guess from some of the review videos on YouTube, but not much. Few questions:
Will Samsung Pay work whether on the XSG, BTU, or any other factory firmware???
Can I root the phone?
Custom ROM's can be loaded?
What is Samsung Pass in the Security section? It doesn't do anything except go to a blank white screen???
-NVE
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So I'm on like my 4th S7 edge. I keep breaking them and getting them replaced through insurance. Well, AT&T decided my last replacement was too many so they canceled my coverage. Not to worry, I have WorthAve Group covering me now and I just received my replacement the other day. I decided to go the unlocked international route and got a SM-G935F (XSG) United Arab Emirates. As soon as popped my AT&T SIM in it immediately downloaded the Nougat update. It's working great, speed is fantastic, functionality as far as I can tell is great, no major issues.
There's a few differences I see I guess from some of the review videos on YouTube, but not much. Few questions:
Will Samsung Pay work whether on the XSG, BTU, or any other factory firmware???
Can I root the phone?
Custom ROM's can be loaded?
What is Samsung Pass in the Security section? It doesn't do anything except go to a blank white screen???
-NVE
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yes, as long as it is stock firmware.
you can root the phone currently nougat has no reliable root but samsung pay will no longer work.
Yes, custom roms can be loaded.
I do not know what samsung pass does.
Cosmic Blue said:
yes, as long as it is stock firmware.
you can root the phone currently nougat has no reliable root but samsung pay will no longer work.
Yes, custom roms can be loaded.
I do not know what samsung pass does.
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I haven't rooted yet, still on the factory XSG firmware it came with and Samsung Pay won't get any further than the initial start screen. Just sits there with the rewards info and an unending loading circle. Is this normal? Would the UK firmware give me any different results you think?
-NVE
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Cosmic Blue said:
yes, as long as it is stock firmware.
you can root the phone currently nougat has no reliable root but samsung pay will no longer work.
Yes, custom roms can be loaded.
I do not know what samsung pass does.
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Isn't Samsung pass like using your fingerprint to sign in to websites on Samsung browser ?
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Isn't Samsung pass like using your fingerprint to sign in to websites on Samsung browser ?
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I don't think so. I didn't have Samsung Pass on my previous S7 running Marshmallow, the fact tory Internet browser lets you do that currently.
-NVE
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Samsungpay can only work if the firmware country you use support samsung pay.
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Samsungpay can only work if the firmware country you use support samsung pay.
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Do you happen to know if there's a list of countries that support Samsung Pay?
-NVE
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you can see the list here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Pay
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you can see the list here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Pay
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Thanks, I Googled it right after I posted and found it. Doesn't look like any of the supporting countries have a firmware with current 7.0 [emoji20]
-NVE
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Would flashing any of the custom ROM's that are updated to nougat be a viable option to get Samsung Pay to work?
-NVE
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singapore, thailand and malaysia share same firmware. so we do have nougat.
but its a multi csc firmware... if you flash it your samsung pay will actually be in thai...
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Would flashing any of the custom ROM's that are updated to nougat be a viable option to get Samsung Pay to work?
-NVE
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no custom rom wont work... some claim that they manage to make it work... but what i read most of it user cant. so dont take a risk.
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Would flashing any of the custom ROM's that are updated to nougat be a viable option to get Samsung Pay to work?
-NVE
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I flashed nougat btu over xeo csc and samsung pay isn't available, but I have android pay which seems to work
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you can root the phone currently nougat has no reliable root
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This is incorrect. The latest SuperSU version works flawlessly on Nougat. A lot of people seem to be getting this wrong due to older versions not working.
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This is incorrect. The latest SuperSU version works flawlessly on Nougat. A lot of people seem to be getting this wrong due to older versions not working.
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I just Googled, is this something I can follow for the root you mention?
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/galaxy-s7-edge-android-7-0-nougat-root/
-NVE
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So it would appear that until BTU or other country that has the nougat update released or I try and hack it to work like some others, Samsung Pay is not an option with this phone.
-NVE
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What happened to the other 3 phones?
ike_1985 said:
What happened to the other 3 phones?
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Apparently with my S7 I have butterfingers and dropped and cracked them all. Sent them back under service provider warranty for refurbished ones. AT&T felt I had broken too many so canceled my insurance. I got a 3rd party provider, which is WAYYYY better than AT&T and all the other service providers, because they sent me a fat ol check for $800 to get a brand new phone. I went the international unlocked route which was much cheaper than the $769 for the US unlocked one. But alas, here I am without Samsung Pay [emoji22]
-NVE
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Apparently with my S7 I have butterfingers and dropped and cracked them all. Sent them back under service provider warranty for refurbished ones. AT&T felt I had broken too many so canceled my insurance. I got a 3rd party provider, which is WAYYYY better than AT&T and all the other service providers, because they sent me a fat ol check for $800 to get a brand new phone. I went the international unlocked route which was much cheaper than the $769 for the US unlocked one. But alas, here I am without Samsung Pay [emoji22]
-NVE
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Get the $25 X Doria case off amazon. Besst case value period.
ike_1985 said:
Get the $25 X Doria case off amazon. Besst case value period.
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The reason it always cracks is because I despise cases, I literally hate them. I'm more of a nude kind of phone owner.
-NVE
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I've always used the att variant, but I wanted to try out the exynos version. Does Samsung pay in the US work with it? In what ways will I be limited? LATE?
Also, is there a way to preorder that version?
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I've always used the att variant, but I wanted to try out the exynos version. Does Samsung pay in the US work with it? In what ways will I be limited? LATE?
Also, is there a way to preorder that version?
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I'm getting a UK S8+ to use on AT&T and have researched this. Based on what's been done with S7e we should be able to get Samsung pay working on the UK variant. To make it work requires installing the right versions and combinations of Samsung Pay Framework and the Samsung Pay app. Payments and Samsung Pay Rewards seems to work, gift cards might, but the "deals" doesn't seem to. I've also pre-ordered a AT&T S8+ to play with until the UK version arrives. I'll extract the Pay Framework and Pay App from it to install my UK phone. Since Samsung Pay isn't pre-installed on UK phones (it hasn't launched there) it's more of a challenge. From what I've read global phones with Pay pre-installed seem to be easier to get working. Pay is supposed to launch in the UK this year so that might help. We'll see.
In terms of other "stuff" you won't be able to use VoLTE, NumberSync, and other AT&T specific features. But you'll get a crapware free phone and regular updates from Samsung directly.
Thank you for the reply! I preordered the ATT version as well.. if you don't mind, let me know if you are able to get this working. I would love to use the international version vs the ATT
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I'll extract the Pay Framework and Pay App from it to install my UK phone. Since Samsung Pay isn't pre-installed on UK phones (it hasn't launched there) it's more of a challenge. From what I've read global phones with Pay pre-installed seem to be easier to get working. Pay is supposed to launch in the UK this year so that might help. We'll see.
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Please Share with us the APK when you get it ^^ Thanks ^^
BarryH_GEG said:
I'm getting a UK S8+ to use on AT&T and have researched this. Based on what's been done with S7e we should be able to get Samsung pay working on the UK variant. To make it work requires installing the right versions and combinations of Samsung Pay Framework and the Samsung Pay app. Payments and Samsung Pay Rewards seems to work, gift cards might, but the "deals" doesn't seem to. I've also pre-ordered a AT&T S8+ to play with until the UK version arrives. I'll extract the Pay Framework and Pay App from it to install my UK phone. Since Samsung Pay isn't pre-installed on UK phones (it hasn't launched there) it's more of a challenge. From what I've read global phones with Pay pre-installed seem to be easier to get working. Pay is supposed to launch in the UK this year so that might help. We'll see.
In terms of other "stuff" you won't be able to use VoLTE, NumberSync, and other AT&T specific features. But you'll get a crapware free phone and regular updates from Samsung directly.
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Since the phone is unlocked can you flash official firmware say from Sweden or Russia where Pay has launched already to get Pay preinstalled and not jump through hoops ?
morbidz said:
Since the phone is unlocked can you flash official firmware say from Sweden or Russia where Pay has launched already to get Pay preinstalled and not jump through hoops ?
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Yeah that's what I thought too. When I had the s7 edge, this still didn't work. I did glimpse over in the s7e forums and saw international users did get it working. I'll definitely be giving the s7 method a try as soon as I get it. Im going to hold off root just so I can use Samsung pay
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osmosizzz said:
Yeah that's what I thought too. When I had the s7 edge, this still didn't work. I did glimpse over in the s7e forums and saw international users did get it working. I'll definitely be giving the s7 method a try as soon as I get it. Im going to hold off root just so I can use Samsung pay
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Weird. is it the same model "F" they sell in UK and Sweden/Russia?
I've been using my S3 watch lately anyway for Pay, so lack of Pay on the phone itself might not be a big deal.
morbidz said:
Weird. is it the same model "F" they sell in UK and Sweden/Russia?
I've been using my S3 watch lately anyway for Pay, so lack of Pay on the phone itself might not be a big deal.
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I had the F model from Singapore but since it was an F model, I could flash any firmware from any country that sold the F model.
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Since the phone is unlocked can you flash official firmware say from Sweden or Russia where Pay has launched already to get Pay preinstalled and not jump through hoops ?
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I'm retired from flashing. I'd rather add Samsung Pay to my BTU S8+ than flash another country's ROM on it. BTU typically has the least regional modifications and gets the most frequent updates fastest. If you read the S7e forums you have to go through some gymnastics to get Samsung Pay working in the U.S. on an international phone no matter what CSC you use. So I may as well keep my original CSC. Once I figure it out I'll post instructions and the APKs if necessary as I know a lot of people are ordering British S8s.
So I got my S8 Exynos from EBAY, samsung pay didn't work because I had the AFG CSC, so I reset the phone with a UK sim in it and that changed the CSC to XEU (UK), Samsung pay now works but the problem is in the UK they only have the NFC payment activated by Samsung not the MST so basically it's nothing more than Android Pay...
Anyone tried installing US SPay APKs on your intl. phone? any luch?
Best,
Joe
I ordered a Galaxy S8 off of Amazon, it was advertised as the international version. I asked on the item's page if it had the exynos chipset, since after the hell that was the S7, I wanted to take advantage of the development the international versions had, and I had gotten an answer saying that it did indeed come with the exynos, and not snapdragon.
Anyway, the phone came in, I set it all up, and sold my S7 to a friend who desperately needed a new phone. I went to go start getting everything needed, and I'm not sure exactly why, but I double checked the settings, and saw that the model number is SM-G950U1
I thought international Samsungs were SM-G950F
Did I end up getting the wrong phone model? Does this thing have snapdragon? Or can I continue with the root processes?
Here's the listing for the phone
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y137TLR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Manly_Parasite said:
I ordered a Galaxy S8 off of Amazon, it was advertised as the international version. I asked on the item's page if it had the exynos chipset, since after the hell that was the S7, I wanted to take advantage of the development the international versions had, and I had gotten an answer saying that it did indeed come with the exynos, and not snapdragon.
Anyway, the phone came in, I set it all up, and sold my S7 to a friend who desperately needed a new phone. I went to go start getting everything needed, and I'm not sure exactly why, but I double checked the settings, and saw that the model number is SM-G950U1
I thought international Samsungs were SM-G950F
Did I end up getting the wrong phone model? Does this thing have snapdragon? Or can I continue with the root processes?
Here's the listing for the phone
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06Y137TLR/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Did you read the reviews? 26% one star....click on that bar to read all of them. You got hosed, and it sounds like you'd be considered lucky if it's even a real s8.
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Did you read the reviews? 26% one star....click on that bar to read all of them. You got hosed, and it sounds like you'd be considered lucky if it's even a real s8.
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Where would you suggest for me to find one?
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Where would you suggest for me to find one?
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I preordered mine from clove.uk.... legit company selling about a hundred bucks less than the cheapest on eBay at the time. They have to open the box, insert a UK sim, and make a 5 min phone call in order to region unlock the phone. Then they'll export it to the US, 2 day shipping.
Others have used ebay....and Amazon.... just be careful.
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