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Best bluetooth headphones for tilt?

I'm considering either the motorola S9 BT earbuds or thair ht820's anyone have any experiance with either of these headsets,or using BT headphones in general with the tilt? How does the sound quality rate vs. just wired headphones?

I've had both and the s9's are the way to go. The 820's are cool but they're way too bulky and star trek looking. The s9's sound great and you dont look funny wearing them.

1911luver said:
I'm considering either the motorola S9 BT earbuds or thair ht820's anyone have any experiance with either of these headsets,or using BT headphones in general with the tilt? How does the sound quality rate vs. just wired headphones?
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I've been using the HT820's and love the sound from them.
/drt

I have the s9's and they are awesome.

I've been through 2 pairs of S9's already. If you're planning on wearing them working out or any kind of athletic activity where you're going to sweat, the buttons will stop working within 2 weeks. This happened to me with both of my pairs and I have ready lots of reviews where this has happened to others as well.
I picked up an HT820 and haven't had any problems with it at all, and I think the range is a little better while the sound quality is about the same as the S9. So basically if you're going to be working out, get the HT820, otherwise I would go with the S9.

Thanks guys look like is going to be the S9's also will these work for streaming video and mp3's as well? and do these also work for phone calls?

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Love the 820. Haven't tried the s9 but it sounds like your going to do well with either!
My 820 work for all audio on the phone and phone calls. Works great too. I'm sure the S9 work the same.

Check out the Jabra BT8040
Not sure if you are looking at a headphone style only. Picked up the Jabra 8040 about 3 weeks ago and really love it. This BT headset also has a two phone BT connection and is really small. Just thought my input my help!!

kewlair said:
I've been through 2 pairs of S9's already. If you're planning on wearing them working out or any kind of athletic activity where you're going to sweat, the buttons will stop working within 2 weeks. This happened to me with both of my pairs and I have ready lots of reviews where this has happened to others as well.
I picked up an HT820 and haven't had any problems with it at all, and I think the range is a little better while the sound quality is about the same as the S9. So basically if you're going to be working out, get the HT820, otherwise I would go with the S9.
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The HT820 were OEM made for Motorola. Old BC03 chipset still me think.
We now produce this version , soon available on the shelves in EU :
http://www.b-speech.de/en/ticker/stereo-headsets-und-adapter/b-speech_calypsoSP/
With call ID and BC05 chipset. You can test them a Cebit right now!

Be very cautious about buying the s9's on Ebay because there are cheap knock-offs out there that suck really bad. Horrible sound quality and they seem to be more suseptable to sweat or water damage. If you're going to get the s9's, make sure they're genuin Motorola made!!!!!!!!
cheers and good luck!

got my 820 from ebay.
I got my 820 on ebay for 30 bucks. They were used but for 70$ off they were well worth it.
compassnortheast was the name of the seller. Good feedback.

Motorola S805 Bluetooth Stereo Headset
1911luver said:
I'm considering either the motorola S9 BT earbuds or thair ht820's anyone have any experiance with either of these headsets,or using BT headphones in general with the tilt? How does the sound quality rate vs. just wired headphones?
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See this similar thread. My reply there RE: same topic:
Just got a Motorola S805 Stereo Headset - DJ style, full earcups.
Fabulous sound, comfortable, simple and intuitive controls. Works great with Bluetooth, and also has a wired plug-in option. No hiss evident at all during music playback, mild hiss when using VoiceCommand.
Volume is good-to-overwhelming, easily controllable with a twist.

I have the Motorola s9's.. They aren't very loud with WMP but they sound real nice with Coreplayer and custom eq and preamp settings..

Is it worth buying this phone only for the audio?? And a few more questions

Hi. My note 4 is making me insane with all the lag and etc and it's near dying! And the camera is broken(not physically)
First. Please don't answer this question if you've never used an iPhone/nexus
Does it lag(if you had v10 or g5)? People told me no about Samsung s7 and note 7 but they do lag! They told me no about note 4 too but it's laggier than a 10 year old computer with a failing hdd. The keyboard is insane
Second: does the DAC ACTUALLY make a difference? Specially for a half-avarage person. I'm not an audiophile but I do care about Audio quality. But for example on mynote 4 I can't tell the difference between flac and mp3 (@320kbps).
But I do hear a difference Between 120kbps and flac with my Sennheiser cx 1.00 on some songs. I currently don't have any good headphones but I'm going to buy audio Technica 500x or m40x
Also as I listen to music on low volume I don't need an AMP or anything. Heck I can tell the name of the song that's playing on the tv o on the background of a movie while I'm in my room listening to music with headphones xD
And there's no background noise on my note 4. Or my PC! I don't understand why people complain about noise on internal DACs
I heard on somewhere that the v10 it barely makes a difference in Audio other than high volume
Third: how is LG at delivering software updates? Is LG fast? Samsung is awful at update! Specially when they have 1000 versions of the same phone
My other choices are iPhone 7+ or Pixel xl (I'll buy iPhone as a last resort as I don't likr apple and IOS although it's smooth)
Thanks Awesome XDA community I Love this site!

kamranhaghighi said:
Hi. My note 4 is making me insane with all the lag and etc and it's near dying! And the camera is broken(not physically)
First. Please don't answer this question if you've never used an iPhone/nexus
Does it lag(if you had v10 or g5)? People told me no about Samsung s7 and note 7 but they do lag! They told me no about note 4 too but it's laggier than a 10 year old computer with a failing hdd. The keyboard is insane
Second: does the DAC ACTUALLY make a difference? Specially for a half-avarage person. I'm not an audiophile but I do care about Audio quality. But for example on mynote 4 I can't tell the difference between flac and mp3 (@320kbps).
But I do hear a difference Between 120kbps and flac with my Sennheiser cx 1.00 on some songs. I currently don't have any good headphones but I'm going to buy audio Technica 500x or m40x
Also as I listen to music on low volume I don't need an AMP or anything. Heck I can tell the name of the song that's playing on the tv o on the background of a movie while I'm in my room listening to music with headphones xD
And there's no background noise on my note 4. Or my PC! I don't understand why people complain about noise on internal DACs
I heard on somewhere that the v10 it barely makes a difference in Audio other than high volume
Third: how is LG at delivering software updates? Is LG fast? Samsung is awful at update! Specially when they have 1000 versions of the same phone
My other choices are iPhone 7+ or Pixel xl (I'll buy iPhone as a last resort as I don't likr apple and IOS although it's smooth)
Thanks Awesome XDA community I Love this site!
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I agree about the Note 4 lag, as I have a Developer Edition of the phone. Even though I can wipe it and install a custom ROM, within a month it is acting slow and lagy. Im always having to click Close all open app.
When I tried out the Note 7 a few times in the store, I wasn't really impressed with it, and not big on the curved screen.
So I am also hold hope that the V20 will be a good upgrade (despite it will probably never get root access).
I'm interested in it for the camera, audio quality, notification display, and Android 7. As a previous owner of a Note 2 & 3, I have yet to see Samsung release updates in a timely manner.
The only thing I wish the V20 had was an AMOLED display, as I've really gotten use to those over the years.

FAUguy said:
I agree about the Note 4 lag, as I have a Developer Edition of the phone. Even though I can wipe it and install a custom ROM, within a month it is acting slow and lagy. Im always having to click Close all open app.
When I tried out the Note 7 a few times in the store, I wasn't really impressed with it, and not big on the curved screen.
So I am also hold hope that the V20 will be a good upgrade (despite it will probably never get root access).
I'm interested in it for the camera, audio quality, notification display, and Android 7. As a previous owner of a Note 2 & 3, I have yet to see Samsung release updates in a timely manner.
The only thing I wish the V20 had was an AMOLED display, as I've really gotten use to those over the years.
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Well according to YouTube it's fast and awesome!
But why wouldn't it get root? I personally find less and less reason to root as android gets better. I didn't even bother rooting my note 4 after an OTA.
Oh and I'm actually glad they didn't use amoled. All the AMOLEDs I've seen even at maximum brightness kins of leave a tail or lag at darks. It's like when I swipe in rhe gallery or scroll or watch movies etc. The blacks kind of leave a purpleish tint behind. It's a million times less than my s4 but still pretty anoyying (I sold my s4 and bought a Nexus 4 afterwards. Best decision I ever made)
Btw I also hope that they come with the earbuds in my country if not I would be very heartbroken and I would have to buy a headphone my self ( an 80$ headphone costs 185~$ in my country. No idea why headphones are so expensive)

i am currently using note 5 and i am ready to change my phone very very tired of deleting or transferring stuff because of the storage .The new V20 will be good specially with the audio but same thing as mentioned up i don't have good headphone i might go for Sony's MDR-100ABN but at the moment i don't care about the audio capabilities. The only thing is i like my phone to be rooted but i am worried about is the locked bootloader and the dead development section so i guess Pixel XL will be a safer option for me but again storage will be an issue for me.

Well. To me, the best smartphone Samsung has ever came up with is the Samsung Galaxy s5, the others are CR*P ... I still using my S5 but i think it is time to move on and LG v20 seems like a perfect candidate. I also have a LG G3 and it is even faster than my Galaxy s5. So, why wouldnt i love the V20 (that if it doesnt come with any issues of course lol). I do like AMOLED screen but i hate burn-in image, and i have developed burn in image on all my samsungs (s2, s3, s4 s5, note 2, note 3, and note 4) , yet with the G2, G3, G4, G5 and V10 I have never had burn in image. so i can sacrifice the pure black and the extreme contrast as long as i dont get burn in image. LOL AMOLED screens are way more expensive than IPS screens.
Anyway, i do believe that the V20 could be a great option. But i will buy it after 2 month of release, since this time i only have one chance to buy the phone. I willl wait to see if there will be root, roms and other developments, and no less important, if it comes with any major issues .

joseguillen1994 said:
Well. To me, the best smartphone Samsung has ever came up with is the Samsung Galaxy s5, the others are CR*P ... I still using my S5 but i think it is time to move on and LG v20 seems like a perfect candidate. I also have a LG G3 and it is even faster than my Galaxy s5. So, why wouldnt i love the V20 (that if it doesnt come with any issues of course lol). I do like AMOLED screen but i hate burn-in image, and i have developed burn in image on all my samsungs (s2, s3, s4 s5, note 2, note 3, and note 4) , yet with the G2, G3, G4, G5 and V10 I have never had burn in image. so i can sacrifice the pure black and the extreme contrast as long as i dont get burn in image. LOL AMOLED screens are way more expensive than IPS screens.
Anyway, i do believe that the V20 could be a great option. But i will buy it after 2 month of release, since this time i only have one chance to buy the phone. I willl wait to see if there will be root, roms and other developments, and no less important, if it comes with any major issues .
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I wad just taking another look at Motorola and moto z force sounds amazing!
Shatterproof display? Hot swappable battery? Maybe later a dac/amp mod!
Too sad that the mod acts as a power bank(afaik 80% wasted as heat and it just wears the unreplaceable internal battery further)
And I won't be able to buy a phone after a year. I assume it will take a year or a year and a half(I can handle 1.5years? Maybe) for it to lose so much capacity that I'll have to hug the wall! My note 4 has 2h SoT after 1.5 years but it's easily replaceable
I don't think there's a reason behind unreplaceable battery other than making us pay more. I mean come on lg does it good! So did note 4 and htc sensation(I know it's old. But it has an amazingly soft button for it to release and it's aluminum)
And how much space does a button waste?
Waterproofing however... S5 is waterproof and has a removable battery(Am I right?) But still...

I currently am using my S5 Active, have been for awhile. I actually bought it off eBay for $200 in brand new condition. This guy is definitely waterproof and has taken more than a dozen drops that i would consider iPhone screen shattering drops - still no scratches on my screen. Battery has been killing me recently though, can't last more than half a day (granted, I am texting and using fb messenger a lot). But other issues such as lag and random freezes have been occurring much more often now. But the nice thing is I have it rooted.
So I could care less about having a locked bootloader, but having a root for the V20 would be amazing. Still- I will be buying the v20 whether it is going to have a locked/unlocked bootloader and even if it won't have a root method. I think this phone is definitely more than a worthy upgrade especially from an S5.

does the DAC only work with the stock music player? what happens when using other music players or soundcloud, youtube,....?

On V10 the dac worked on all audio programs after MM update
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ok thanks. i asked because on the Axon 7 it wasn´t so, right?

Not sure with the Axon.
There's an high impedance mode too but it depends on your headphones, I remember for the V10 I bought a little cable that automatically enabled high impedance on any headphones. The volume was amazing
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NO! You will regret buying a LG phone! No root, no bootloader unlock and no custom ROM..You will be glad if it doesn't bootloop 6 months later..

had a g2 that was rooted and had tons of development and never boot looped... but thanks!
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well the Note 4 is one of the laggiest phones I have ever had. My current S7 Edge is not what I would call laggy at all. However it is not as fast as the Nexus 6 that I had.
for LG, i had the G2, G3, and V10. I liked the G2 but did not have it long. The G3 is still in use every day, but my son has it, so not my daily driver, but when I pick it up, it does not seem laggy. The V10 was not laggy, but it drank battery juice. I had to swap a battery around 5pm every day. That got annoying.
I was also considering the Moto Z Force, since it will be super quick. But then the V20 will be bigger and have some cool features, still a toss up for me

CadillacMike said:
well the Note 4 is one of the laggiest phones I have ever had. My current S7 Edge is not what I would call laggy at all. However it is not as fast as the Nexus 6 that I had.
for LG, i had the G2, G3, and V10. I liked the G2 but did not have it long. The G3 is still in use every day, but my son has it, so not my daily driver, but when I pick it up, it does not seem laggy. The V10 was not laggy, but it drank battery juice. I had to swap a battery around 5pm every day. That got annoying.
I was also considering the Moto Z Force, since it will be super quick. But then the V20 will be bigger and have some cool features, still a toss up for me
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I agree. S7E is "fast", but no way it feels as fluid as the Nexus, even just a Nexus 6. The LG phones has always been snappy for me, possibly due to the lighter skin on top.
For me, V20 has checked out almost all boxes for me. I could wish for a Samsung-like fast camera, but I can't live without the ultra wide angle now. The vibrator isn't as solid as the flagship counterpart (note, S7, iPhone 7). I would like front facing speakers, but it's not a standard feature. As with all phones, there are small things I can pick on, but for 95% of the phone, I couldn't be happier.
Back to the original question - Yes, I think it's worth it if you use it for music all the time. I can definitely hear a difference from the Quad DAC vs a normal phone or even a phone that has a wolfson DAC. I am only using some alright in ear monitor - Shure SE215 and Monster Turbine Pro.

I remember the audio on my V10 being fantastic, so I would assume the V20 will be even better

2 things that drove me nuts about the V10 and keeps me from considering the V20 is the battery life and the reception that the V10 got. I'm waiting for you all to get them in your hands and start reporting on these 2 things..

Battery is alright so far, things are still settling. Audio is fantastic!

Hi, I'm a musician and I hope I can clarify several things for you:
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Second: does the DAC ACTUALLY make a difference? Specially for a half-avarage person. I'm not an audiophile but I do care about Audio quality. But for example on mynote 4 I can't tell the difference between flac and mp3 (@320kbps). But I do hear a difference Between 120kbps and flac with my Sennheiser cx 1.00 on some songs. I currently don't have any good headphones but I'm going to buy audio Technica 500x or m40x
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A good DAC will definitely improve the sound quality, no matter the source is mp3 or lossless. However you must understand that for mp3 files a good DAC is totally overkill, which means the improvement would be limited, much less than the improvement of a lossless source. On the other hand, only several technologies like Sony's DSEE HX can improve/repair the quality of lossy files to a certain level and then output as Hi-Res audio.
Using higher quality equipment most of the time makes you aware more of the audio source quality differences, so that's why there is no turning back on equipment
Also as I listen to music on low volume I don't need an AMP or anything. Heck I can tell the name of the song that's playing on the tv o on the background of a movie while I'm in my room listening to music with headphones xD
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Yes an AMP amplifies the volume, but this is not it's only job. Every AMP has it's own acoustic characteristics and that's why there are AMPs of different price tags. An AMP also affects the tone color, spectrum balance, noise ...etc no matter you're listening at high or low volume. However if you actually always listen to music and all the outer sounds at the same time then perhaps it really doesn't matter to you.
And there's no background noise on my note 4. Or my PC! I don't understand why people complain about noise on internal DACs
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If you are speaking about the V20's advertisement of 130dB signal noise ratio (SNR), then actually the "noise" here means unwanted sound only during the signal process, which normal consumers won't care about.
If you are speaking about the noises that people sometimes can hear in the headphone or speaker, they actually have so many possible causes that takes examinations to resolve them, can't simply blame internal DAC.
V20's audio features is attractive enough for me to buy, not only the playback capability but also the HD recording feature. As for casual listeners it will definitely provide better listening experience, but it's full potential can only be discovered using high quality source files and good headphones. Oh, and perhaps a nice listening environment or a noise isolating/canceling headphone

^nice write up and welcome aboard!

Sound Quality issue after Nougat update

Hey guys.
After upgrading to 7.0 update i find out my phone faced with audio issue while headphone is attached.
I hear random very short noises while playing music or watching video when headphone is connected.
I also have a dual sim exynos variant and according to the chipworks it has difftent audio chip:
"We see Cirrus Logic CS47L91 Audio Codec in the G930FD. Instead of dual audio chip solution adopted in the G935T, the G930FD only used single audio chip solution. Chipworks thought that the Cirrus Logic CS47L91 Audio Codec may have enough DSP processing capability which does not need a second chip."
I want to know if other people faced with same problem or not, because i tested android 6 for 2 days and there were not even a single issue but when i come to Android 7 every thing about audio turn to sh!t.
Remember it is so hard to hear noises using stock Samsung hands free but it is too easy to hear them using an earphone with higher frequency response.

Anyone?
Say something.
At least say have not it or did not test it yet.
I asked via samsung members and they told me do a factory reset and if it's not fixed go to Samsung customer service.

When I'm listening music with headphones in my room and at lower levels (better concentration to what I'm listening), I hear very short cracks and skips every now and then. I'm using powerAmp so I was thinking that it was just the compatibility problem between the app and new system, but I can hear the same cracks when watching videos on youtube. I've tried enabling and disabling adapt sound, but it's the same. Very disappointing in my opinion.

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When I'm listening music with headphones in my room and at lower levels (better concentration to what I'm listening), I hear very short cracks and skips every now and then. I'm using powerAmp so I was thinking that it was just the compatibility problem between the app and new system, but I can hear the same cracks when watching videos on youtube. I've tried enabling and disabling adapt sound, but it's the same. Very disappointing in my opinion.
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It is not a compatibility problem and i faced with that on any player (both music and video players) but just on nougat. I was listening for at least 2 days at maximum sound volume that impacted my hearing for a week and i confirm it's only nougat related.
Just a Question: do you have a dual sim exynos variant?

M0RT3ZA said:
It is not a compatibility problem and i faced with that on any player (both music and video players) but just on nougat. I was listening for at least 2 days at maximum sound volume that impacted my hearing for a week and i confirm it's only nougat related.
Just a Question: do you have a dual sim exynos variant?
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I agree with U. But I can't even remember if I had those issues on 6.0.
No, I'm using single sim version g935f, it's also exynos - European version.

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I agree with U. But I can't even remember if I had those issues on 6.0.
No, I'm using single sim version g935f, it's also exynos - European version.
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You can't remember because it never happened on MM.
I was testing another S7e running nougat yesterday and it also had same problem.
I believe it is a software problem and until too many people report this issue Samsung won't fix it.

man, that nougat thing is awful , full of bugs , it makes a wonderful camera awful to even not comparable to lower mid class phone , i regret the time when i updated my phone to nougat , facing many issues since then . camera , battery , sound , lolz , what else remains ? who in samsung decided to launch such crap update?? come in guys lets report it so that samsung might do some fixes , but i doubt it , because they have all their focus on s8 now, s7 is a past thing for them , but everyone cannot get new phone every year , every manufacturer should extend their support for devices to atleast 2 years !

best sound on 7.0 , in mm was terrible

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best sound on 7.0 , in mm was terrible
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Clarity and details on N is improved. I can confirm that but random noises or cracks are very annoying and you can hear it if you listen meticulously.

Headphone Adapter Quality?

How is the headphone adapter that comes with the 6T? As much as I don't want to purchase the 6T because of the lack of headphone jack, it doesn't really make sense to get the 6 because there's no price reduction.

You should check around, the 6 is going for $439..
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You should check around, the 6 is going for $439..[/URL]
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I don't want to buy from those sites though. There's no warranty according to OnePlus. My 5T has some hardware issues with the GPS, charging port, and modem and it isn't a cheap fix.

Sound is average, If you really care about Audio Quality their is better devices out there.

liam_davenport said:
Sound is average, If you really care about Audio Quality their is better devices out there.
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What about this delay and battery life talk? Does that mean if I'm watching a video, the sound is delayed so it's out of sync?

geokilla said:
What about this delay and battery life talk? Does that mean if I'm watching a video, the sound is delayed so it's out of sync?
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I dont get a delay watching videos. I tried using bluetooth headphones and that was awful, PUBG was unplayable as there was a nearly second delay between action and sound with those, but the wired are fine thru the dongle. WHat I would say is that volume seems to be a little lower than I was expecting, but I've read that some dongles are better than others for that, e.g. the previous version of the pixel included dongle
And battery life is stellar, I'm a heavy user with 2 sims, and Im comfortably getting 2 days use out of a charge. Im really impressed with the phone so far after a week of use

Using UE900 IEMs, i have no issues with the audio quality. Can't really hear much of a difference between this and a Galaxy S7 Edge (wasn't the best audio output ever, so...). Source was Downloaded Spotify Premium content in highest quality.
Oneplus 6t can go louder however.
Before the S7 Edge i had an HTC One M8, with a fairly decent audio output (and low output impedance), i think it was slightly better, but yea. After a while, you simply get used to it, and don't hear anything wrong.
I have no issues. But i'm not someone who sits there in cramps trying to analyze every single Tone in existence just searching for any little Mistake. I put headphones on, and walk whereever i need to go, if i'm going anywhere without Car. Simply enjoy some music while on the go. Nothing more, nothing less. Anything else (in my opinion, when "on the go" at least) would've nothing to do with enjoying music anymore, if you focus your whole brain into analysing the audio quality everytime you listen to something. For comparisons early yea, but after that, it would not make much sense.
If you're the first kind, you might probably be happier with an LG Phone with their Quad DACs. Otherwise, especially if you use some cheaper headphones / IEMs, the only bad thing worth mentioning will be the "adapter-handling".
Audioquality however, is just fine. Not the best you could get. But good enough so there is no noise or whatever.

is it possible to add aptX-HD and/or LDAC to firmware?

A couple of weeks ago I bought a Bluetooth receiver for my garage stereo. I bought a good one that supports aptX-HD, high res audio. After pairing it with my phone I noticed it wasn't pairing with aptX-HD. I went into the developer's options of my phone and the codec/profile (I've ran into people that call it either one) is not there. I don't know if it ever was with the Samsung S10+, but I'm pretty sure it was at the beginning; and I'm 99% sure that it was there on the Samsung S9.
I owned the S9 (I've since given it to my son when I upgraded to the S10+), and I remember doing a LOT of research on this stuff a couple of years ago. I'm an audiophile and was looking up and learning about the different codecs/profiles, and the different kinds of HD and/or high res audio. At that time I bought a SteelSeries Arctis Pro Wireless for over ear monitors (buetooth 4.2 and doesn't support high res or high def audio over wireless, but does with the cable that comes with it), as well as an EarStudio ES100 Bluetooth receiver. The ES100 is specifically designed for high res audio over bluetooth, and also supports Sony's LDAC. Anyway, wrapping up, as I said, I'm fairly positive that the Samsung S9 at least had aptX-HD at that time. It seems like Samsung took it off because they wanted to push their own proprietary high res bluetooth codec/profile that only work with their IEM. Is there a way that it can be put back with these other firmware/ROMs/OS's?