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The one thing I wish the EVO had going for it is an AMOLED screen. I'm coming from a Nexus one with said screen, and it's gorgeous. Almost useless in direct sunlight, but gorgeous. Now their was an early Sprint ?Coming Soon site claiming the phone had an AMOLED screen http://www.androidguys.com/2010/03/28/sprints-htc-evo-4git-sizzles/ ---but this was prob an error. My question is: is their a huge, noticeable, difference in the two types of screens? EVO owners, give me your opinions!
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The one thing I wish the EVO had going for it is an AMOLED screen. I'm coming from a Nexus one with said screen, and it's gorgeous. Almost useless in direct sunlight, but gorgeous. Now their was an early Sprint ?Coming Soon site claiming the phone had an AMOLED screen http://www.androidguys.com/2010/03/28/sprints-htc-evo-4git-sizzles/ ---but this was prob an error. My question is: is their a huge, noticeable, difference in the two types of screens? EVO owners, give me your opinions!
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Just had a live evo in my hands, and the screen is a beaut. I wouldnt worry about it not being AMOLED at all.
The screen is really a great screen.
I really don't notice much of a difference in colors / contrast / etc when compared to the ZuneHD, maybe it's the higher resolution / size that makes it look just as good.
meh, on the whole, AMOLED is all hype no show
AMOLED is trash I have a Nexus and an Evo and in direct sunlight my EVO is noticeable, AMOLED drains battery, LCD saves, colors are sharper but not brighter on AMOLED, brightness all the way up they both match up but the nexus(AMOLED) has a sharper scene
all in all not a big differ and Evo screen (IMO) has a better screen
1- colors are the same but sharper in AMOLED
2- direct sunlight LCD wins
3- colors are both bright
4- LCD battery saver
just a few details!
I thought that the amoled was more efficient.. so better than lcd
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I thought that the amoled was more efficient.. so better than lcd
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its not, uses more battery
Phone Scoop comparesEvo screen to Nexus One Amoled
See below for review comparing the Evo screen to the Nexus One Amoled
Here is the link to the full article.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=373&p=2666
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The screen on the HTC Evo 4G was, at times, a bit disappointing. Under medium indoor light, the screen is crisp and clear. Text looks sharp and legible and the dark, contrasty interface looks polished. Outside, the Evo 4G couldn't hold up to bright daylight. This made it tough to use for normal email and calling tasks, and nearly impossible to use the camera, since you have to tap an onscreen button to take a shot. In almost every way, the screen fared better than the AMOLED display on the smaller Nexus One. It was a bit brighter with warmer colors and much better outdoor performance. But it could still stand some improvement.
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its not, uses more battery
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Incorrect, AMOLED has no back light and consumes roughly the same power that a TFT LCD uses just on the TFT portion of the screen. The TFT Portion of a Active Matrix OLED screen controls light on a PerPixel basis, illuminating each OLED pixel at whatever color is required vs LCD where the current is constantly on(except in a pure 0 0 0 black pixel) and controlling the Liquid Crystal portion rotating the LC to whatever degree to allow the backlight(A large % of the consumption) to shine through at a given color. And because of AMOLEDs aforementioned lack of back light it uses significantly less power.
I'm also confused as to what you mean by "color sharpness" Are you talking about the actual edge sharpness of an image or the color reproduction.
In which case the color reproduction on a AMOLED is more SATURATED not specifically more accurate, though the increased saturation makes the image appear better on average because most people enjoy over saturated images. The contrast ratio, which is the ratio of black to white, e.g. when a TV says it has a 3,500:1 contrast ratio then the luminance of a pure white pixel 255,255,255 is 3,500 times higher than that of a pure black 0,0,0 pixel. AMOLED displayes typically have a much higher contrast ratio due to the lack of a back light and the fact they can produce much "deeper" black pixels.
AMOLED actually bugs me, not only are they useless in direct sunlight(which I find myself under quite often) but it feels like colors are often OVER saturated, like the reds and oranges on my friend's Incredible look awful while I've never had that with my Hero, some colors on mine might be washed out but I'd rather have that than have a giant hodgepodge of colors on an AMOLED.
Another thing to consider is AMOLEDs "burn in". That means that pixels that do not change on the screen for a long time tend to burn in and show permanent shadows. This happens on the status bar a lot since it is nearly always displayed and unchanging.
Here is a thread of NexusOne owners documenting it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=673513
As of last week I just switch over from At&t to Sprint wireless. I had two lines on my contract, wifey with the Samsung Moment and myself with the HTC Hero just to hold me off until the Evo release.
From what I thought isn't the Samsung Moment screen also uses the Amoled technology and the Hero is LCD?
Side by side comparison from low brightness to 100 percent, the Hero display looks so much better quality wise compare to the Moment. Hero seem more saturated and crisp whereas the Moment IMO seem much more dulled. Especially in the setting menu with the black background, the Moment is kind of like greenish black whereas the Hero is spot on black. Outside I'm having a very difficulty time navigating around Moment (brightness all the way up) whereas the Hero is still manageable.
By any mean I'm no expert in this display stuff but this is just my own little comparison of what I've seen between the two display.
Anyone know if the Evo screen is transreflective? A related question would be, is it even possible for AMOLED to be transreflective?
I compared my Evo screen with my old Hero screen and the Hero was a little brighter and with darker blacks. Even between LCDs there are differences.
Guys have a look at these pictures.
I am just posting some more screen comparisons in the following order---
1) Super Amoled Plus vs Super Amoled
2) Super Amoled Plus vs Super Clear LCD
3) Super Amoled Plus vs Retina Display
Have a look at these pictures,screen comparsion to see how much brighter & crisp is super amoled plus
Continuing in the same order
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all of the above just reinforces why i like SAMOLED/+ more than SLCD and/or Retina displays
in this case Retina has the worse colour and density
Wow... Retina looks really blurred...
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Wow... Retina looks really blurred...
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nooo... zoom it, click on it, it looks clear, it's just pale and colours are not vivid
What are they like in direct sunlight though? I know the retina is very good...
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nooo... zoom it, click on it, it looks clear, it's just pale and colours are not vivid
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I did. I guess you can call me blind then.
Hard to say which is the most color accurate; the iphone/SGS definitely have colder color temperatures, but the SGS2 looks a bit warm (the reds don't look very deep). Also there is major red crushing in the parrot picture.
interestingly you havent posted the parrot picture from the same article. for some reason the super amoled plus has a distinct lack of detail for the feathers on the parrots back. there is no shadowing inbetween the feathers.
vs super amoled
http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_sgs_6b.jpg
vs super lcd
http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_inc_6b.jpg
vs retina
http://www.mobiset.ru/photos/2011/march/29/samsung_i9100/disp_iphone_6b.jpg
any reason for the difference between all the other photos and this specific one? maybe it doesnt deal with red as well?
is not just red observe the blue and yellow, it's dull on the retina
as for the SAMOLED it's the vivid colours that over take the edges (shadow)
is just like when you set a TV to very bright colours settings
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is not just red observe the blue and yellow, it's dull on the retina
as for the SAMOLED it's the vivid colours that over take the edges (shadow)
is just like when you set a TV to very bright colours settings
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Granted the iPhone's colors are off due to about only 65% of Gamut, you won't really notice it given the excellent contrast. So it's not that things aren't sharp because sharpness comes with high contrast.
AMOLED completely oversaturates.
Anyone do photography? Take your photo and take Saturation and do a +40 on it in Adobe Lightroom. That's AMOLED. Of course photos side by side will show it look nice, and the other one will be washed out, but which is more accurate for looking at photos or videos? Shrug
Its possible to adjust on Samsung Galaxy with CM7(2.3.3)
So i belive it will work on SGS2 in time..
I post this from my Nokia N900 so i hope you can se the picture..
Sorry for my bad english
The SGS 2 is just wayyyyy over contrasted and oversaturated, they need to tone it down otherwise you lose a lot of detail like what you see in the parrot picture.
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The SGS 2 is just wayyyyy over contrasted and oversaturated, they need to tone it down otherwise you lose a lot of detail like what you see in the parrot picture.
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You guys are having some trouble understanding whats going on, so im gonna attempt to explain it.
The reason you see the parrot picture "oversaturated" and shadows not showing in properly is becaus oled technology surpasses easelly the native 1250:1 contrast ratio of a lcd display so youre trying to see the over lcd quality on an lcd, which frankly does little sense as your lcd screen will bottleneck the real quality of oled, furthermore the camera quality can also be questioned aswell regarding this matter.
It sounds stupid for ppl who dont know much about image displays, but for those who do know the diff between oled and lcd it makes a decent ammount of sense.
The "Overbrightness and oversaturation" you see there are simply the oled subpixels doing their job, lightning up, the camera & the lcd screen cannot display it as properly as a backlighted washed out lcd.
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You guys are having some trouble understanding whats going on, so im gonna attempt to explain it.
The reason you see the parrot picture "oversaturated" and shadows not showing in properly is becaus oled technology surpasses easelly the native 1250:1 contrast ratio of a lcd display so youre trying to see the over lcd quality on an lcd, which frankly does little sense as your lcd screen will bottleneck the real quality of oled, furthermore the camera quality can also be questioned aswell regarding this matter.
It sounds stupid for ppl who dont know much about image displays, but for those who do know the diff between oled and lcd it makes a decent ammount of sense.
The "Overbrightness and oversaturation" you see there are simply the oled subpixels doing their job, lightning up, the camera & the lcd screen cannot display it as properly as a backlighted washed out lcd.
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You know, just because you make a post with the attitude of knowing what you're talking about doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
It's oversaturated, the end.
Original photo:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...I4/JkMo1hEry40/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+01.jpg
Over-saturated photo:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...JA/vCIwlukAyvg/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+02.jpg
Wow, it looks suprisingly the same as what the SGS 2 display is doing, I wonder why?!
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You know, just because you make a post with the attitude of knowing what you're talking about doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
It's oversaturated, the end.
Original photo:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...I4/JkMo1hEry40/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+01.jpg
Over-saturated photo:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/__IGXYXpe2...JA/vCIwlukAyvg/s1600-h/Over+Saturation+02.jpg
Wow, it looks suprisingly the same as what the SGS 2 display is doing, I wonder why?!
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Im not trying to show off or anything, but what you are saying is false, "the end".
This is OLED technology, there is no such thing as "oversaturation" this doesnt use a backlight, the blue, green and red pixels are made of light, LIGHT, they are not complemented by the lcd backlight as a tn or ips panel does... so colors will look alot more realistic with bigger contrast ratio, with pure blacks and whites.
The camera quality is clearly average at best compared to a proper professional HD Cam corder, so it couldnt properly interpret the oled panel as its made purely of light, its like taking a snapshot of the sun, youre gonna miss details around it.
And then theres your screen, i take it ure viewing it in a LCD screen instead of an oled right? u cant compare lcd vs oled viewed on a lcd screen because that will downgrade the quality of oled to an lcd, no brainer here.
I dont understand why youre feeling so down, i bet you live in the marketing world where LCD is awzome and beats everything around... the fact is tough, lcd is by far the worst technology for color reproduction and pixel response time.
So i dont really get what youre trying to say here, see an oled screen in real life then talk ok?
The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
Its like saying psone has better specs than ps3...
Oh and for your comment with the 2 pictures:
It is more than clear that the second image has been manipulated in a graphis software with more saturation, as the colors get pixelated and edges jaggy.
There is a difference between contrast ratio and saturation but from your comment you still cant understand what it rly is...
For once, how can u see oled pure black (pixel turned off) on a screen that to display the picture it has to have the back light always on...
How do u expect a pure red color when you have a white bulb backlight? the same goes for blue and green...
You will never be able to understand oled quality from an average snapshot displayed on a lcd screen, if u cant understand something as basic as that then, please, remember that saying: "It's better to keep quiet and..."
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Im not trying to show off or anything, but what you are saying is false, the end.
This is OLED technology, there is no such thing as "oversaturation" this doesnt use a backlight, the blue, green and red pixels are made of light, LIGHT, they are not complemented by the lcd backlight as a tn or ips panel does... so colors will look alot more realistic with bigger contrast ratio, with pure blacks and whites.
The camera quality is clearly average at best compared to a proper professional HD Cam corder, so it couldnt properly interpret the oled panel as its made purely of light, its like taking a snapshot of the sun, youre gonna miss details around it.
And then theres your screen, i take it ure viewing it in a LCD screen instead of an oled right? u cant compare lcd vs oled viewed on a lcd screen because that will downgrade the quality of oled to an lcd, no brainer here.
I dont understand why youre feeling so down, i bet you live in the marketing world where LCD is awzome and beats everything around... the fact is tough, lcd is by far the worst technology for color reproduction and pixel response time.
So i dont really get what youre trying to say here, see an oled screen in real life then talk ok?
The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
Its like saying psone has better specs than ps3...
Oh and for your comment with the 2 pictures:
It is more than clear that the second image has been manipulated in a graphis software with more saturation, as the colors get pixelated and edges jaggy.
There is a difference between contrast ratio and saturation but from your comment you still cant understand what it rly is...
For once, how can u see oled pure black (pixel turned off) on a screen that to display the picture it has to have the back light always on...
How do u expect a pure red color when you have a white bulb backlight? the same goes for blue and green...
You will never be able to understand oled quality from an average snapshot displayed on a lcd screen, if u cant understand something as basic as that then, please, remember that saying: "It's better to keep quiet and..."
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Im not trying to show off or anything, but what you are saying is false, "the end".
This is OLED technology, there is no such thing as "oversaturation" this doesnt use a backlight, the blue, green and red pixels are made of light, LIGHT, they are not complemented by the lcd backlight as a tn or ips panel does... so colors will look alot more realistic with bigger contrast ratio, with pure blacks and whites.
The camera quality is clearly average at best compared to a proper professional HD Cam corder, so it couldnt properly interpret the oled panel as its made purely of light, its like taking a snapshot of the sun, youre gonna miss details around it.
And then theres your screen, i take it ure viewing it in a LCD screen instead of an oled right? u cant compare lcd vs oled viewed on a lcd screen because that will downgrade the quality of oled to an lcd, no brainer here.
I dont understand why youre feeling so down, i bet you live in the marketing world where LCD is awzome and beats everything around... the fact is tough, lcd is by far the worst technology for color reproduction and pixel response time.
So i dont really get what youre trying to say here, see an oled screen in real life then talk ok?
The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
Its like saying psone has better specs than ps3...
Oh and for your comment with the 2 pictures:
It is more than clear that the second image has been manipulated in a graphis software with more saturation, as the colors get pixelated and edges jaggy.
There is a difference between contrast ratio and saturation but from your comment you still cant understand what it rly is...
For once, how can u see oled pure black (pixel turned off) on a screen that to display the picture it has to have the back light always on...
How do u expect a pure red color when you have a white bulb backlight? the same goes for blue and green...
You will never be able to understand oled quality from an average snapshot displayed on a lcd screen, if u cant understand something as basic as that then, please, remember that saying: "It's better to keep quiet and..."
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Wow,thats some great knowledge man
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I agree with what you're saying, just wanted to point out that the SAMOLED+ screen will have a normal RGB stripe so it's 3 subpixels for each pixel, rather than 2 subpixels in the current SAMOLED pentile (RGBG - RG being 1 pixel, BG being the next, so 4 subpixels for 2 full pixels). So yes, I happily welcome the fact that it'll be RGB per full pixel like most traditional displays.
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The only difference between a normal oled screen and samsung galaxy s2 superamoled plus is that it has 6 subpixels to form 1 full pixel instead of the typical 3 pixels, the 6 pixels combined together can provide better color reproduction and more accuracy compared to only 3.
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is it good? I'm only used to OLED.
The IPS display on the Nexus 7 looks good from what I've seen. IPS is known for decent viewing angles.
it depends on the OLED screen you're comparing it to.
the galaxy s2 has super amoled plus, which has a full rgb subpixel matrix, but only a resolution of 800x480. the full rgb subpixel matrix makes everything look clearer and sharper.
the galaxy nexus, galaxy note, and galaxy s3 use a pentile subpixel matrix. its something like rgbg, which makes the display look greenish. its not as sharp as a full rgb matrix, and the colours arent as vivid due to the lack of subpixels (ends up being around 66% less subpixels).
however, the main advantage of the oled displays is that their pixels can be turned off. this means that in movies and games, you have a 'true' black, whereas in led backlit LCD displays (unless it has full led backlight with local dimming) blacks will always seem greyish. oled displays also tend to oversaturate the colours. the other advantage is that since black means the led/pixel is turned off, it means that using a black wallpaper on oled displays will reduce power consumption and improve battery life.
the nexus 7 uses an IPS panel. the general idea is that all the pixels are aligned/parallel, which leads to the image looking sharper compared to TFT and TN panels. the nexus 7 also has a full RGB subpixel matrix which makes it much sharper, and in combination with the IPS setup, it leads to more accurate colour representation. however, as it is not an oled display and it does not have local dimming with a full led backlight (having such a setup would make the device much thicker), it is unable to render 'true' black and as a result, blacks end up looking a bit grey.
cant really say much about which one is better as it is a personal preference thing. some like the oversaturated colours of OLED as it seems more vivid, whereas others prefer the accuracy of IPS panels and sharpness.
at the moment, i own a galaxy note with a pentile amoled display, and i use a 37inch Panasonic TV for my PC display, which uses an IPS panel. i'd say both are pretty good in their own way, but i prefer the IPS panel simply because of the full set of subpixels and colour accuracy.
Waiting to see how hard I rage about the non-black backgrounds.
anandtech measured nexus 7 black at 0.37 nits, whatever that means.
as souai said, it really depends.
generally OLEDs have much better colors and look better, IPS is much better in sunlight though because it's brighter and has insanely good viewing angles up to 178 degrees.
I have a first gen asus transformer which uses and IPS screen and though it's not as impressive color/quality wise as the Galaxy S III and even my Galaxy Nexus (sometimes) it's still excellent and i've never been bothered by it.
and given the fact that the N7 has such a high pixel density it should look great, and the reviews have backed this up.
This isn't apples to apples here but comparing the gnex to the one x I say I definitely prefer the IPS display. Now this is the best version possible probably of its type but I'm happy for the n7 to get an IPS screen. Almost all reviews have talked about how nice it is, only complaint being a little warm and a little dim compared to some other IPS displays. I like my oled screen but since good IPS high res screens have come out, they seem to be superior to oled at the moment. Oled uses up lots of battery in anything other than very black biased setups. IPS has that slight gray to the black but most people are used to their computer monitors and TVs having this as well. I think we won't have to sorry as much about color uniformity as much either with IPS.
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nvm
thanks for the replies. it's helpful.
I'm enjoying my Nexus 4 since last friday and I just noticed an issue I want to check if it's intrinsical to IPS technology or maybe a failure on my N4.
Load any white background image and look at your N4 from different view angles. I'm getting different color tints (from brown to bright white) for that white background (it looks really good if you look at it frontwards).
Is this normal?
Thank you very much in advance.
Normal for any LCD.
Color shifts are normal for IPS. I have a high-end IPS monitor, and it does it at extreme angles. The viewing zone for good color is better for IPS than others.
Ok, thank you both for your quick answer!
Normal for N4. Compare it with Samsung oled s**t, the N4 is way better. But compare it with a HTC One X and the N4 is worse. Well, at half the price of a One X(+)..
I'm about done with AMOLED panels and I'm about done with the S7 because of it. Ever since phones went quad HD (Turbo, S6, Nexus 6, Turbo 2, Note 5, 6P, S7, etc), this has been a problem, and unfortunately it still seems to exist on the S7. This is my second one - the first one had it in a different area on the screen and it was even worse. It's the pink fade on light or white backgrounds. Once you see it you can't unsee it. I'm sure some will come in here and say they can't see it. I noticed it looks all white at the right angle so if you're not seeing it, you might move your screen a bit. Also, the first image (the horizontal one) shows it the most b/c it has the subtle camera lines which make the fade even more obvious. Not sure if there's a point to this except to vent a bit and, I guess, see if anybody else has had this issue on theirs. Given that the screen is supposed to be one of the main selling points of this device, it's hard to keep it when I see the fade every time a lighter background comes up...
Honestly, I don't really see one benefit to having an AMOLED panel any more - even the highest quality ones eventually deal with burn-in, the battery life is not any better, and they have inconsistencies which are apparently just par for the course. #frustrated
Hmm my S7 doesn't have this effect at all angles and I don't think this is something with AMOLED displays. I think it's the new gorilla glass and the refractive properties of it. At some angles it looks blue and others pink but looking straight at the phone I don't see any weird hue just perfect white. The colours on the S7 display are the best for an AMOLED screen so far and I can say that since I work in a paint store and colour matching is my life.
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Hmm my S7 doesn't have this effect at all angles and I don't think this is something with AMOLED displays. I think it's the new gorilla glass and the refractive properties of it. At some angles it looks blue and others pink but looking straight at the phone I don't see any weird hue just perfect white. The colours on the S7 display are the best for an AMOLED screen so far and I can say that since I work in a paint store and colour matching is my life.
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I know what you're referring to with the refractive properties on Gorilla Glass 4 and this definitely isn't that. I'm even able to see the inconsistencies on darker backgrounds as well. I've uploaded two more photos, attached to this post. That's a solid dark grayish/blue background.
Pick your poison. With AMOLED you're going to get higher brightness, contrast and color saturation, but it will shift colors on whites with various viewing angles. With LCD you'll get colors that are less saturated but more stable and no true blacks (thus worse contrast), and it's brightness, contrast and saturation will all degrade at higher viewing angles.
Source: gizmag.com
AMOLED screens are also thinner and consume less energy.
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Pick your poison. With AMOLED you're going to get higher brightness, contrast and color saturation, but it will shift colors on whites with various viewing angles. With LCD you'll get colors that are less saturated but more stable and no true blacks (thus worse contrast), and it's brightness, contrast and saturation will all degrade at higher viewing angles.
AMOLED screens are also thinner and consume less energy.
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I know, and I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Though I don't think we're talking about just color shifting at various viewing angles. This fade (and prior fades) appears to be "burned" in to the screen itself, and while differing angles help a bit, it doesn't change the problem.
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I know, and I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Though I don't think we're talking about just color shifting at various viewing angles. This fade (and prior fades) appears to be "burned" in to the screen itself, and while differing angles help a bit, it doesn't change the problem.
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And it looks even worse when you compare it with your friend's perfectly white iPhone screen..
But the better sunlight legibility and perfect blacks appear as a fair trade in for me..
Fullmetal Jun said:
And it looks even worse when you compare it with your friend's perfectly white iPhone screen..
But the better sunlight legibility and perfect blacks appear as a fair trade in for me..
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I don't know - obviously that's subjective, but even my iPhone 5S is still just as readable in sunlight, and having inconsistencies in the screen appearance on a $700 device, to me anyway, is hard to justify for the sake of pure blacks.
Many will disagree, but this is why I still think the iPhone 6 Plus has the best display. I own an S7 Edge and while my screen colors are even with no pink tint, the entire display does have a bit of a green tint to the whites and I can occasionally make out horizontal lines where the brightness isn't perfectly even on grays and whites, especially noticeable when scrolling. My S7 Edge is about as good as I've seen any QHD AMOLED display, certainly much better than any of the S6s I owned, but it's still not perfect, and I would still prefer the display from the iPhone 6 Plus. To me, good, even, uniform whites are more important than perfect blacks because most of the things I do on my phone involve white backgrounds (web pages especially).
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Many will disagree, but this is why I still think the iPhone 6 Plus has the best display. I own an S7 Edge and while my screen colors are even with no pink tint, the entire display does have a bit of a green tint to the whites and I can occasionally make out horizontal lines where the brightness isn't perfectly even on grays and whites, especially noticeable when scrolling. My S7 Edge is about as good as I've seen any QHD AMOLED display, certainly much better than any of the S6s I owned, but it's still not perfect, and I would still prefer the display from the iPhone 6 Plus. To me, good, even, uniform whites are more important than perfect blacks because most of the things I do on my phone involve white backgrounds (web pages especially).
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One thing I would like to point out that you are completely missing is the contrast, not only black-white but the colour contrast! This is another area where S7 screen is clearly superior than 6s plus or any other mobile lcd. You can verify that by viewing a colorful wallpaper side by side on both the screens. Another thing is colour accuracy and colour gamut in which S7 screen again comes on top.
Both types of screens obviously have their pros and cons but SAMOLED screens arguably do have more pros over lcds than cons imho!
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To me, good, even, uniform whites are more important than perfect blacks because most of the things I do on my phone involve white backgrounds (web pages especially).
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Master gtg! Thanks for the goodies of the Infuse 4G..
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To me, good, even, uniform whites are more important than perfect blacks because most of the things I do on my phone involve white backgrounds (web pages especially).
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Agree 100%. And at least the blacks on LCD's are consistent. They might not be "pure", but they are consistent unlike the whites in AMOLED.
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One thing I would like to point out that you are completely missing is the contrast, not only black-white but the colour contrast! This is another area where S7 screen is clearly superior than 6s plus or any other mobile lcd. You can verify that by viewing a colorful wallpaper side by side on both the screens. Another thing is colour accuracy and colour gamut in which S7 screen again comes on top.
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You call it superior, I call it over-saturated (), even still on the latest and greatest. Don't get me wrong, they look nice and my eyes get used to it after awhile, but no matter what I do the S7's screen (and S6's, and Turbo's, etc.) feels "cartoonish" to me when navigating through the UI. Every time I go back to LCD from AMOLED my eyes feel a small sense of relief - almost like the contrast was too much. I know that's not the norm, so fortunately we have choices. But I love everything about the S7 except, ironically, its screen because of these inconsistencies. I simply shouldn't be seeing a fade from white to pinkish grey on an all-white background on a 2016 flagship.
Lol.. it would be a shame then if apple goes with amoled displays in future ?! Anyway you seem very clear about your preference of the display type so I'm not going to contest that, but I would say that lcd displays are not free from fault like amoleds and they do have issues like backlight bleeding, abnormal tints, non-uniformity issues, dead / stuck pixels etc.
BTW, I'm not here to preach about amoled or lcds, it's only my own experience with both the display types in the past. My experiences might vary from yours but I've always had them better with samoled screens than lcds.
I just bought a s7 flat 2 weeks ago and its my first AMOLED phone., i dont have any kind of color uniformity but i can see the strong blue tint in white when i look at the screen from an angle, and its really distracting me too much. I dont know if i go to warranty and they can fix it.
OFFlee said:
I just bought a s7 flat 2 weeks ago and its my first AMOLED phone., i dont have any kind of color uniformity but i can see the strong blue tint in white when i look at the screen from an angle, and its really distracting me too much. I dont know if i go to warranty and they can fix it.
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No, as that is the nature of the technology. When viewed at an angle, LCDs maintain color uniformity but lose saturation, brightness and contrast. AMOLEDs shift to blue green but maintain saturation, brightness and contrast. Refer to my post above (#4) and check out the picture.
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No, as that is the nature of the technology. When viewed at an angle, LCDs maintain color uniformity but lose saturation, brightness and contrast. AMOLEDs shift to blue green but maintain saturation, brightness and contrast. Refer to my post above (#4) and check out the picture.
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I see it, and i aggree with you but, color shift is more disturbing then losing brightness. Its not affecting when using phone most times but whenever i use my phone with one hand and try to open notifications, blue tint is appearing and i really hate it. Actually iam in love with blacks of amoled screen, but this thing is driving me crazy. Maybe i am just too sensitive this color changes.
And btw, my father have a Galaxy A3, and it has exactly same blue tint on his phone too. I Think samsung should something to fix it for next Galaxy S. Its really annoying.
OFFlee said:
And btw, my father have a Galaxy A3, and it has exactly same blue tint on his phone too. I Think samsung should something to fix it for next Galaxy S. Its really annoying.
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It has to do with the varying luminescence and longevity of the various colored pixels. AMOLEDs have been like that since the beginning and it won't be fixed by the next generation of devices. Once you get in the habit of keeping the phone perpendicular to your eyes, it's not so bothersome. Then you go back to an LCD and see that it looks so flat and dim and decide it's totally worth it.
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Lol.. it would be a shame then if apple goes with amoled displays in future ��! Anyway you seem very clear about your preference of the display type so I'm not going to contest that, but I would say that lcd displays are not free from fault like amoleds and they do have issues like backlight bleeding, abnormal tints, non-uniformity issues, dead / stuck pixels etc.
BTW, I'm not here to preach about amoled or lcds, it's only my own experience with both the display types in the past. My experiences might vary from yours but I've always had them better with samoled screens than lcds.
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Sorry, didn't mean to sound so dogmatic. I really don't dislike AMOLEDs, the imperfections just frustrate me on such a high end device. You're exactly right that LCD's can also have flaws, but I see them much less than I see them in AMOLED panels - which is just inherent to the two different types of technology and how well the OEMs implement them. I was able to exchange the one in the photos of this thread for a new one (two guys at the store agreed it was an issue) and while the new one isn't perfect, it's MUCH better to where it's not all I see now.
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Then you go back to an LCD and see that it looks so flat and dim and decide it's totally worth it.
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There is truth in this statement. Despite my overall preference for LCD, when I use AMOLED for a period of time and go back, it's a two-fold reaction... one reaction is slight relief on my eyes, but the other reaction is getting used to the "dullness" - though I find I get used to that much faster than I get used to the high contrast when going from LCD to AMOLED. I would imagine if I stuck to a phone for more than a few months and that phone was AMOLED, the change back to LCD would be even more difficult.
if you have polarized sunglasses then lcd display is a curse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5snWrD6txI
Disappointed this is still an issue with AMOLED screens, this frustrated me to no end on my Galaxy S2 where the screen would shift yellow from one end to the other. Glad you posted this thread as it's not a widely addressed issue, guess I'm going with HTC 10.
I've never noticed this on any of my AMOLED displays. Nor have I noticed any burn in, and I'm not sure what you mean by "other inconsistencies," but if you mean sample to sample variation that affects LCD panels, too. And if you don't like the high contrast, that's adjustable in Display settings.
What I have noticed is vibrant color and ease of using in daylight that no LCD panel can match. Or even come close to. I guess I'm done with LCDs.