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Anyone else noticing lag?

Picked up the Note 3 yesterday and so far I'm loving it, however, there have been a handful of times where the device has lagged or momentarily froze. Not only does it hang, but the app crashes too. This has happened with the built-in Samsung apps.
If I remember correctly, I was bouncing around my home screen and app drawer (TouchWiz). I specifically remember swiping up from the bottom to open Flipboard, it hung, then I got a message stating My Magazine has crashed and stopped..
This is not what I was expecting from my new Note 3 :crying:
EDIT: Also, the screen doesn't come on instantly when I click the lock button. There's usually a slight delay.

yeah i get minor lag every now and then but i find that normal as i have ALOT of apps running... i was haing tw home FC, i think it FCed 3 or 4 times didnt happen again but i still uninstalled it via tibu cuz i am using nova instead... as for the waking lag yeah i get that sometimes as well but not all the time.... some widgets like the clock widget i have on my homscreen/lockscreen take 5-10 secs to load...
PS- btw this question belongs in the Q&A section, not the general section
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It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.

BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
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I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.

very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.

letsgophillyingeneral said:
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.

Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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PS: the item highlight issue in the PlayStore is a playstore bug and is not "lag".
The fix is clicking another item, going back and reselecting what you originally wanted.
This happens occasionally.
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I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.

letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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You have the S800 version.
Bugs it is then, Google will have to fix the playstore, also Samsung has to fix that "My Magazine" thing, I mean it runs fast but the first load and the updating is quite slow and buggy.
Other than that, It's fast everywhere I noticed, and it should be with that hardware.

BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps... but i do agree that everyone has a different understanding of the word "lag"
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I know "lag" is a very subjective term, so I'll try to give you a specific example I just experienced:
Browsing in Facebook, I open someone's photostream. I click a photo and nothing happens. I click an album and it highlights, but doesn't open. Click another picture.. nothing. So I lock the screen and unlock it and it works.
This has also happened when browsing through Google Play and trying to download apps. I search, click the app, but it doesn't open. It just highlights the item I clicked.
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I haven't seen one of the Samsung apps crash on me since yesterday, but then again, I haven't used my phone much today, and I'm using Nova instead of the TouchWiz launcher.
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ok now that is weird.. i should even say i haev minor lag, its more like the phone stutters every now and then
chrisrotolo said:
very occasionally touch barely works , only spen works. reboot clears it.
very rarely also I get an app hang or Fc, not even rooted yet. but overall runs like a dream.
I know if this was a custom or ASOP ROM, I wouldnt have those issues.
N900A by the way.
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i have that issue only when i try changing the multi window apps.. i have to touch the apps like 2 or 3 times for the touch to register
Skander1998 said:
letsgophilly, do you have the octa version?
or the snapdragon 800?
The Snapdragon 800 is super fluid for me.
You might need to wait until Samsung brings the HMP update to the octa variant if you have it.
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no the international n9000 wont get the HMP update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469610
letsgophillyingeneral said:
I'm looking in the About Phone section but I don't see anything regarding the CPU. I believe it's the Snapdragon 800. I'm in the United States. Verizon is my carrier.
I'm thinking this "lag" is due to software bugs like you mentioned.
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yeah you have the snapdragon, the octa core/xynos chipset is in the international version.. US didnt get it
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Khizar said:
yeah the only thing is that i got the FCs on pure stock without downloading any apps...
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There's no such thing as a "SM-900" or "SM-9005" ROM. Each regional ROM is different and can have different versions of Samsung's own apps and third party apps that are bundled with it. So one region could have force closes out-of-the-box while another doesn't.
I'll give you an example. When the N10.1 came out people were complaining they couldn't import PDFs in to S Note. After researching it, based on region, there were almost a dozen different versions of S Note used in the various ROMs Samsung deployed worldwide. Two of those versions were borked and couldn’t import PDFs. And that was within 90 days of the N10.1's release. So it's very possible that the strange behavior people are reporting could be regional. OP and I both have U.S. versions of the SM-9005 but are on two different carriers. So if he's experiencing the behavior he described after a hard reset it's probably something unique to his carrier's (Verizon) version of the s/w.

Well then, poor exynos buyers, I was tempted to get one for that lone reason, no I don't regret passing it at all and getting the 9005.

BarryH_GEG said:
It all depends on your definition of "lag." There's the occasional stutter or drag working with or within certain apps or combination of apps but for the most part the N3's incredibly fluid. Everyone here uses a different combination of apps with some varying in quality from outdated crap to highly polished. So everyone's experiences are going to be different. That, along with different wireless and sync environments, is why people’s battery stats are all over the place.
I have 131 apps on my device and haven't experienced a FC or any strange behavior and I've been using the phone for almost two weeks.
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Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???

fade2black101 said:
Can you confirm a wake lag?
This was an issue on the Note II as well. Even when disabling S-Wake and all that stuff, it still had a delay.
I was always led to believe it was a "feature" of the exynos with the way it handled sleeping. I was hoping that the Qualcomm processor would not have this issue???
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I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.

I have power button lag. Takes a full second after pressing the power button to sleep sometimes. Clearing processes from RAM usually solves this.
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I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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letsgophillyingeneral said:
I definitely see wake lag. I just clicked my home button and the display turned on almost a full second later.
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Incredibly annoying why Samsung chose to persist with this.

PaulGG said:
I have the snapdragon I am getting FC in Lots of apps. Also getting the occasional unresponsive touch. My note 2 firmly in my wife's hands never hiccuped in the 12 months I used it. Loving the N3 but to be honest the N2 was the best phone I ever owned it's still like new and flies. I remember lots of similar stories with the early N2 having problems. Maybe there are hood and bad ones. The N2 is the first phone I haven't rooted or used a launcher on. Tried, next. Apex. Nova, Themer, and aviate so far on the N3. My brain tells me everything on the N3 is better, but my heart says different. I have had the N3 since launch here in Europe on the 25th so had plenty of time with it. Factory reset I think. Must say the stock video player with good headphones is amazing. Watch a movie streaming last night with surround sound, amazing.
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i have had music force close a few times but nothing else. why dont u try a factory reset? i would wipe dalvik cache too but i dont know if u can do it without root.
give the n3 a chance to receive a few updates before you make up your mind. also could be initial hardware that is faulty, the very first note 2 i got had quite a few issues. sold and bought a new one few months later and that one lasted me until n3.

Just as a thought maybe a 4.3 android thing, I know when my old N7 got 4.3 it was not as stable as the previous version, also my note 8.0 and note 2 are fast more stable than my Note 3. Unloaded a load of app today and it seems better, it is fast and I am sure Samsung will issue updates. Be interesting to see how the N2 and S4 deal with version 4.3
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S8 is much slower than the Google Pixel?

Hi all,
Just switched to the s8 from a google pixel.
Beautiful phone, but if is noticeably slower, in many ways:
1. Poor screen responsiveness of the keyboard. Typing on SwiftKey is slower on the s8 than the pixel. It seems that take a split second longer to recognise the touch.
2. Scrolling stuttering. The pixel's scrolling is buttery smooth. The s8 seems to be seriously slopping frames for something as simple as scrolling a page of text on chrome!
3. App switcher. It's really very jelly compared to the buttery smooth Pixel.
Anyone else experienced these issues, and /or have any thoughts?

I had moments yesterday where my S8 had skipped or stuttered, but it's been perfect today.

No issues here, and I'm no samsung fan boy. I've got iPhone 7 plus, zte axon 7, lg v20, and I've owned nexus devices. But with My track record with samsung I'd know for sure in 2 weeks lol. Happy so far
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Has been butter smooth for me and I have not noticed any lag on the keyboard or in any screen. Not sure why you are experiencing such poor performance.

Pixel is bare bones and Samsung is full of features and customization (some useful and others a waste). Samsung is know for bloatware which slows the phone down, but my S8 is fluid.

I noticed the same thing
I noticed a delay with my s8 compared to the pixel xl when I happened to switch between apps on both. To test it out I opened up the same two apps and double tapped the toggle window button. The s8 is slower and not as smooth. There may be an animation speed setting that makes it faster but still seems like it wouldn't be as smooth.
Typing this in noticing swift key going slower too.
My battery is at 15% so maybe something is optimizing it and slowing it down...

Started having problems again. Ironically, similar to the problems that caused me to switch from the S4 to the S8 and to what the OP mentions.. Freezing of apps and high battery draw. Stuttering and slow to switch apps and unlock. Problems with keyboard not recording keystrokes. Then it goes b as back to being perfect again.
There is an update ready, but I'm having flashbacks to the update that locked the S4 down. I know this phone is already locked down more than the S4 ever was, but still...

No problems here. It's really fast. Faster than my old S6 Edge.

vw65bus said:
No issues here, and I'm no samsung fan boy. I've got iPhone 7 plus, zte axon 7, lg v20, and I've owned nexus devices. But with My track record with samsung I'd know for sure in 2 weeks lol. Happy so far
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Yes to my surprise this sammy built phone hasn't lagged yet but it's too early to tell

I always disable window animation in developer tools. Make it way better for me. I don't like window animation.

mlock420 said:
Yes to my surprise this sammy built phone hasn't lagged yet but it's too early to tell
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Yep another week and a half we'll know, hoping it doesn't. But if it's going to I hope its before my return window. I think samsung finally made a good speedy phone.
To anyone wanting to help speed it up and block updates until there sure it's a good update. I disabled updates in developer settings, and set animations to .5x.
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vw65bus said:
Yep another week and a half we'll know, hoping it doesn't. But if it's going to I hope its before my return window. I think samsung finally made a good speedy phone.
To anyone wanting to help speed it up and block updates until there sure it's a good update. I disabled updates in developer settings, and set animations to .5x.
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Yeah I'm not updating cause remapping Bixby is the best for that button... now if we can remap that fingerprint scanner lol

mlock420 said:
Yeah I'm not updating cause remapping Bixby is the best for that button... now if we can remap that fingerprint scanner lol
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Lol yep that would be awesome and funny. Ya I have my bixby button set to google now. Wish there wasnt a button there though.
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Mine is noticeably slower than my Nexus 6p even. Love the screen but touchwiz is a joke. Starting to regret my purchase.

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Lol yep that would be awesome and funny. Ya I have my bixby button set to google now. Wish there wasnt a button there though.
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I got a question is there a way to get rid of that ota update symbol on my status bar or do I download the update and just don't install?...i really wanna get rid of that symbol but don't wanna risk the update being accidentally installed

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I got a question is there a way to get rid of that ota update symbol on my status bar or do I download the update and just don't install?...i really wanna get rid of that symbol but don't wanna risk the update being accidentally installed
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Unfortunately, I don't know how to get rid of it. (Yet) I'm pretty sure once you set it up to stop updates it doesn't show up. But same with my case I didn't know the update was going to break bixby button so I stopped it when I found out. Now mine shows, and I've tried to get rid of it by blocking its notifications thru holding down on it and going to its settings. But it still shows up. I'm still working on a work around to get rid of it. Once I do I'll let you know.
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Unfortunately, I don't know how to get rid of it. (Yet) I'm pretty sure once you set it up to stop updates it doesn't show up. But same with my case I didn't know the update was going to break bixby button so I stopped it when I found out. Now mine shows, and I've tried to get rid of it by blocking its notifications thru holding down on it and going to its settings. But it still shows up. I'm still working on a work around to get rid of it. Once I do I'll let you know.
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I can't remember if we can just download it and then once it offers to install maybe we could ignore it but I forgot if that was the case for 7.0 update for s7e

I'm getting stuttery scrolling across various apps. Some are smooth though, and others more like a mid-range phone from a few years ago - not what you'd expect from a flagship device today.

I'm experiencing the stuttering apps. As mentioned in this thread, disabling window animations has helped with this experience.
This is my first android phone since the HTC one X.
Can we expect any custome ROMs? Or updates to improve performance?

Scottland said:
I'm getting stuttery scrolling across various apps. Some are smooth though, and others more like a mid-range phone from a few years ago - not what you'd expect from a flagship device today.
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Not all apps are created equal, some are smoother than others simply because they're written differently.

Not as fast/snappy as I was expecting ?... Any one else agree? TMO 950U

Hi guys, so I pre-order the S8 and am very happy with the design of the phone but performance has left much to be desired. It just doesn't feel as snappy as lets say my OP3. Granted, OP3 has 6gb of ram but still, the S8 considerably feels sluggish. Chrome browser stutters all the time, even with only a few tabs open for example.
I have tried decreasing the animation/transition speed under devl options (which I know is subjective) but still the same...
Anyone else in the same boat? Anything to remedy this? I am really hoping for Root to be available.
I guess I'm just venting a little lol.

Yeah, I have the exynos version and it feels slow... Making all the animations 0.5x kinda helps but I'm still disappointed.

Let the phone get "broken in". Use it for a few days, things get a lot snappier after the system learns your usage patterns. I'm also getting better and better battery life (first day I barely had 1.5hrs SOT with my regular usage, a week later I was getting 4-5hrs easily, even though my usage pattern did not change).
However wiping the phone will reset this. I experienced this a few times in the past 3 weeks I had the phone.

Totally incorrect, this is the fastest smoothest Android I've ever used. I've been in the iPhone camp since the 6s and had the 7 as well. We all know how fast and smooth the new iPhones are, well this phone is as fast and smooth. I've had it running 7 days straight while opening and running dozens of apps, this is a beast. No lag and smooth af scrolling and navigation. Snapdragon here
To sum it up, this device is a pleasure to use. And no fkin way will I use a stock Android. The Galaxy user experience adds so much added value to the phone.

mike2518 said:
Totally incorrect, this is the fastest smoothest Android I've ever used.
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Me too and I've had three. A AT&T S-835 version and two UK Exynos versions. One of the Exynos had a pink screen and got returned. In the context of this thread I'm assuming "fast" means page opens, scrolling, and transitions. All three of my phones performed impressively in those areas. To the point as a long time Android user it makes you go "wow."
There are a bunch of threads here where people are complaining about a variety of performance issues. 99% of the time those problems are user induced. We all love Android's flexibility but it means no two phones are alike. Based on age, quality, and design of the apps people use one or two "bad" apps can create issues across your phone. Then there's the "freezing" crowd who take out an app that another app that's still alive is dependent on and they have issues. Look at the Bixby remapper and the performance problems it created. One thing I've noticed on my Exynos phones is that the Samsung Device Maintenance app does a terrific job of proactively managing power hungry apps and those that remain alive unnecessarily in the background.
As for 4GB vs. 6GB of RAM that doesn't really fly unless you always and intentionally keep a slew of apps running in the background. Every time I've checked I've had plenty of free RAM available and no app I've gone back to in recent apps hasn't been alive when I've needed it. If there's a single app that itself needs more than 4GB of RAM than it's a developer fail because the average Android phone has far less than 4GB of installed RAM.

Have you installed AQEB update?
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Seems AQEB has stuttering in Facebook. I wouldn't be surprised if they've optimised for Snapdragon...

russ18uk said:
Have you installed AQEB update?
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Seems AQEB has stuttering in Facebook. I wouldn't be surprised if they've optimised for Snapdragon...
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What is AQEB???
Thanks

Just change your launcher to Nova launcher and you'll be happy !

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What is AQEB???
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New firmware update released today/yesterday.

Bluetooth and app installs are the two things that show performance issues best. When I connected to my truck's Bluetooth, every phone before it took around 20 seconds to connect, but the S8 connected immediately.
App installs are also seemingly immediate as well. I never get any lag or stuttering when installing apps, even while playing games.
That's my benchmark for how fast a phone is. Oh, and cold booting is 30 seconds, S7e on U FW is 38 seconds.

Yeah definetly noticed this too. I still blame Samsung's touchwiz. The S8 took a huge hit last night when I tried video calling on Whatsapp and send a few texts and the same time and damn the phone heated up and lagged hard on me. Hoping the update containing daydream will fix a few of these issues and give us that damn button remapping back.

Smart switch restore and the shortcutter app made my phone sluggish. Factory reset and avoid both made my phone silky smooth with over 100 apps installed.
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Frame Drops like hell

Can anyone please report if they are seeing lots of crazy frame drops on this phone? I'm running rooted Xxx No Limits, but have observed the same on Elemental OS too. When you turn on 'Profile GPU Rendering' in the Developer Settings to 'On screen bars', I see a crazy amount of frame drops every where. I bought this phone because it is suppose to offer the best smoothness and performance rivaling only the Pixel, specially after the fantastic 3T. Attached are some images showing the frame drops on even mundane tasks like scrolling Settings menu. Is anyone else seeing this behavior?
I use Action Launcher, but can anyone report if they see this on their stock launcher or other launchers?
PS: The phone 'seems' smooth and fast when doing these tasks. It doesn't seem to slow down and drop frames like crazy like an S8 or G6, which can be seen with the naked eye. It's only when I turn on GPU profiling that I can detect these frame drops. Is the GPU profiling reporting 'broken' and incorrectly reporting lots of frame drops? I'm confused.

Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?

Chaphasilor said:
Hey, I just checked and I got the exact same results, maybe even a bit more drops than you do. I'm using the stock launcher. Phone is absolutely smooth aside from that. I'm not sure, but this may be in correspondence with the jelly-scrolling issue? I'm not sure if I'm affected though, if yes, the jelly effect is minimal.
Are you affected by the jelly scrolling?
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I don't see the jelly scrolling effect on my phone. I'm not sure if this frame drop issue and the jelly scrolling effect are related. Its interesting to know that you see a lot more frame drops in the rendering.

i agreed with you, for this phone having the latest 835 which is suppose to give a straight line of performance (no frame drops) yet i see a lot of those

what the hell is going on with this phone ...

i dont know if its the phone or the softwere but im so returning, the only reason i bought was because of the 835 and because its was the latest and will give you continues performance, its all a lie

Probably because the screen is upside down!

B3501 said:
Probably because the screen is upside down!
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ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone

worldsoutro said:
ha! True!
Its a cheap chinese knock off phone
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100%

Just tested on a Galaxy S8 and that graph looks even worst!!!!
What's happening?!?! Snap 835 is the culprit?
But I've seen a review with the HTC U11 and it doesn't do this.

Yeah mine is far from smooth as well, dunno,it just does not scroll smooth, my Nexus 5 on MIUI is soooo much smoother, way less frame drops.. I suppose theissue will vanish with the right ROM / Optmization, perhaps changing to a different CPU governor could help already..

Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?

atistang said:
Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.

zone23 said:
People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.

atistang said:
Its like the Jelly scrolling thing. I bet 85% of the people *****ing about it haven't even held a OP5. I watched those videos and then paid close attention to my 6P, guess what? It does the same damn thing!
About the only real issues I have seen are the WiFi and autobrightness issues, and camera performance. The WiFi seems to have been fixed and the camera could and most likely will be improved... I hope.
And from what I have seen out of the camera isn't bad, but it is very average for a phone bought 2 years ago. I just believe the hardware is much more capable of better results.
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I'm right there with you brother.. The auto brightness has been a "real" issue for me. I have not had the jelly thing but then again I didn't go looking for it. The camera? Well I took what I though were some really nice looking photos over the 4th.

atistang said:
Is this really a big deal if you can't see it until you run this log that shows you its happening?
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zone23 said:
People are like: "I didn't know I had a problem until I ran this app now I'm like O..M..G!". These people can't be for real. They should try standing on there heads, looking in a mirror, with the phone upside down.. see how it scores.
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Thank god I am not the only one, reading through some of the threads I am starting to feel like I am the crazy here. People are like "The phone is smooth but this tool is showing frame drops, **** Oneplus, I am returning this phone."

So they will return a 500€ flagship which runs smooth and they dont notice lags without a tool? They expect that the CPU is the cause of frame drops?
Seriously, this must be a joke. Its just looking for a problem when you dont have one.
I do notice the jelly scrolling, but its minimal, so its kinda cool, like a subtle animation.
Camera could be better but nobody can say its bad, they just overhyped it and didn't meet expectation.
Battery life is like out of this world, I got 8h of SoT, good luck on other phones with that.
No other issues were encountered in the meantime. Perfect phone.

I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
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I get drops with the launcher, inc app drawer but it's not significant. I'm currently using a custom kernel as well.
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The screenshot you have posted doesn't show any frame drops. Can you let e know what kernel you are using?

Here are my rom and kernel details. No governor settings changes etc, I'm just using the kernel out-the-box.

LAG! :'(

Just got my OP6T yesterday and I'm getting lots of lag. Mostly scrolling lag when I'm scrolling slow through the app drawer, play store, etc. (fast scrolling is always smooth) I've also experienced lag in general while using the launcher and just doing normal functions. This is my first OnePlus device and I've always heard they are super smooth with no lag and so far this has not been the case for me.
Is my device defective? Is there some known issue I can fix? I don't want to have to return it but I don't want a laggy phone either.
(UPDATE) The cause for the lag seems to be gesture navigation and also immersive mode via a third party app (immersive mode is not a feature within the device but can be accessed by apps even without root). I've been using gesture navigation since I bought the phone and have had scrolling lag the whole time. I switched to the traditional 3 button nav last night and the lag was gone. Another user reported they are having terrible lag issues while using immersive mode but once they disable it the lag is completely gone.

Did you install any apps yet? Note most 3rd party apps are not fully well versed on Android 9.

Try updating to 9.0.5 and see if the problem persist. When I received the phone, I turned animation scale off. You can try that and see if you still notice lag.

You may have a defective one. Mine is extremely smooth. Dare I say it might be the smoothest Android experience I've ever had.
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Did you install any apps yet? Note most 3rd party apps are not fully well versed on Android 9.
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Yes, I've installed my normal apps which is only like 30. I'm not a big app user so don't have tons and all those I use have worked good on pie for some time. I also have a Pixel 2XL and have been on Pie since the second beta last spring.

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Try updating to 9.0.5 and see if the problem persist. When I received the phone, I turned animation scale off. You can try that and see if you still notice lag.
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I updated to 9.0.5 as soon as I got the phone yesterday. I don't want to turn off animations because they are pretty ;'(

Not the lag.. but I definitely see drop frames and jankiness coming from smooth pixel 2 xl

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Not the lag.. but I definitely see drop frames and jankiness coming from smooth pixel 2 xl
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I also have a Pixel 2XL and didn't notice the lags I'm getting on the OP6T. I'm currently troubleshooting to see if I can find a solution.

I have not experienced one time lag as I can remember last days. I updated to latest firmware straight away

I'm on 9.0.4 - not done anything at all with it, and it's as fast as anything. If it's like that out of the box then it sounds like you've got a defective device.

I'm also getting stuttery scrolling on most apps. Came from Pixel 2xl and it was smoother than this. Should I be concerned I have a faulty device? My first one plus phone as well. It's not bad enough to bail on device but is definitely noticable and annoying.

Omg what's goin on in here, i came straight from pixel 2 xl and 6t feeeeels far more smooth than pixel, its blazing fast,

Who is your carrier? Maybe it's something specific to them?
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Don't get me wrong. This thing is way faster than the p2xl. Its just when I'm scrolling slowly reading on different apps, it misses here and there. Stuttery scrolling. It seems a little better after the update. I was scrolling on Zedge and it was like it was 10 fps..
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Who is your carrier? Maybe it's something specific to them?
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At&t

slygeist said:
I'm also getting stuttery scrolling on most apps. Came from Pixel 2xl and it was smoother than this. Should I be concerned I have a faulty device? My first one plus phone as well. It's not bad enough to bail on device but is definitely noticable and annoying.
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I installed ElementalX kernel and so far it seems to have fixed the stutter while scrolling. I'm paying close attention and if it keeps up I'll be returning it for another device. The only reason I'm stressing it so much is one of the main reasons I bought it is because for years the OnePlus devices have been praised for being super smooth, fast, with no UI lag. Lag, frame drops, stutter, and UI faults of any sort bother me greatly. My Pixel2XL has had a bit of lag here and there but overall it's been smooth and pleasant to use so I can't handle anything less.

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Don't get me wrong. This thing is way faster than the p2xl. Its just when I'm scrolling slowly reading on different apps, it misses here and there. Stuttery scrolling.
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This is exactly the issue I've experienced. It's only during slow scrolling. I've also had lag in other areas like opening folders and closing apps but it's mostly been while scrolling -- but like I said so far the ElementalX kernel seems to have fixed it.

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This is exactly the issue I've experienced. It's only during slow scrolling. I've also had lag in other areas like opening folders and closing apps but it's mostly been while scrolling -- but like I said so far the ElementalX kernel seems to have fixed it.
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Just flashed elemental kernal. Will test for a bit and post back.
Did you change any of the settings or all defaults?

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Just flashed elemental kernal. Will test for a bit and post back.
Did you change any of the settings or all defaults?
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I changed all the cpu cores to their max frequency but left the governors default. That is it. Battery life seems the same.
I will say also that I noticed within EX Kernel Manager that the CPU cores were running very low frequencies by default which makes me wonder if for some reason my device had drastically underclocked cores. The max frequency I was seeing on any cores was 1.7GHz.

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I changed all the cpu cores to their max frequency but left the governors default. That is it. Battery life seems the same.
I will say also that I noticed within EX Kernel Manager that the CPU cores were running very low frequencies by default which makes me wonder if for some reason my device had drastically underclocked cores. The max frequency I was seeing on any cores was 1.7GHz.
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Hmm. Mine are maxing at 1056 all four of them. When I'm scrolling on the screen..

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Hmm. Mine are maxing at 1056 all four of them. When I'm scrolling on the screen..
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Yea, I think that's the problem since the cpu is designed to go to 2.8GHz on the main cores. For whatever reason mine were never going above 1.7. I'm hoping some custom ROMs and kernels will resolve this issue.