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All Your Root Questions Answered:
This thread is a work in progress. Ask your root questions, and I'll answer them in the OP. This way we can clean up the other thread.
Thank you @DmdStar, @somberfox, @CrashXXL, and everyone else I missed (which I will add to the OP)
Q: I followed all the directions and after I finished the root procedure, my device is stuck at the M logo? HALP.
A: You didn't follow all the directions, and now you're going to have to start over from step one. Flash SU6-7 in RSD Lite as mentioned in the directions, and follow the directions word-for-word. You're only wasting your own time, not ours.
Q: My phone is stuck at the black green and the root script isn't detecting my phone?
A: You're probably using a USB3.0 port which isn't supported. Move your phone to a USB2.0 port and install the Qualcomm drivers provided in the download.
Q: Why is it taking so long, I think it froze.
A: Just leave your phone alone and get a coffee. Make that three. It's a long process.
Q: Can I install blah-blah ROM?
A: NO! While this is a perma-root, you are unable to disable write-protection, therefore you can't use Safestrap.
Q: Now that I'm rooted, can I unlock my bootloader?
A: SU4-21 was the last system update that worked with Sunshine. Unless you can get in contact with the Chinese middleman, you're out of luck. Sorry.
Q: Why won't my changes to /system persist after a reboot?
A: Unfortunately, no one has managed to circumvent write protection on the device, therefore you can't do anything to /system and expect it to persist unless you do soft-reboots. Sorry.
Q: Can I delete system apps?
A: No, unless you edit the system.mbn and split it into 16mb chunk files. There's no way around this, sorry.
Q: Can I install your Busybox image?
A: I mean if you want a brick, go right ahead. No one's stopping you.
Q: Viper4Android?
A: Which needs Busybox. Again, feel free to proceed at your own risk.
Q: Can I downgrade to SU6-7 if I took the upgrade to SU6-7.2?
A: Yes, you can. There's no magic trick to downgrading to SU6-7, just flash it in RSD Lite.
Q: Can i have only root with SU6-7 and locked bootloader?
A: You can not unlock your bootloader past SU4-21.
Q: Wait, if we can downgrade to SU6-7, why not just downgrade to SU4-21 and unlock our bootloaders?
A: Because you can't. Debating about it on the forums won't magically make it work neither. Nor will complaining about Motorola locking down the devices. You bought an on-contract device that you knew was going to be locked and stock. They also had a developer edition MAXX for sale. If you didn't get it, blame yourself, not Motorola/Verizon.
Q: Can we take the OTA update without losing root?
A: Yes, but you will lose Xposed if you do.(Answered by @DmdStar)
Thanks for the faq @thenameisnigel
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yeah thx
Nice one ! Thanks for Viper4Android information. What preset did you choose (battery saving, high/super quality) ?
Actually I don't see what stops you from deleting an app, although it's faster "frozing" it via Titanium for example (paid solution). I removed some files successfully (I should try with apps). Also, did you try installing another ROM ? I didn't take the time to try it but it might work with the python script. You just would have to replace almost all memory blocks, which would take 16+ hours (!!).
I've another question : did someone succeed in installing CF.Lumen ?
Thanks again for the faq
PS : agree with Artimunor just below my post, change colors please !
thenameisnigel said:
Q: Can I delete system apps?
A: No.
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Wait... here you say it's impossible....
however in the other thread you replied to my post with this:
thenameisnigel said:
Yes
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My original post:
Artimunor said:
Thats the reason i would like to know how to safely alter the image we upload to the phone, to add/remove apps from it.
Is it save to just mount the image on a linux system as a HD and alter the /system directory?
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Whats the deal here?
I already started creating a linux environment for this, just did not had the time to complete it yet with my dayjob (already pretty sleep depraved)
P.S. that azure blue really hurts the eyes.
Artimunor said:
Wait... here you say it's impossible....
however in the other thread you replied to my post with this:
My original post:
Whats the deal here?
I already started creating a linux environment for this, just did not had the time to complete it yet with my dayjob (already pretty sleep depraved)
P.S. that azure blue really hurts the eyes.
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It's possible if you edit the image like what you're doing. That answer was meant more for people who want to edit /system directly from the device. I'll clarify it.
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can i have only root with SU7-6 and locked bootloader?
Deleted.
danger2u said:
can i have only root with SU7-6 and locked bootloader?
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thenameisnigel said:
Q: Can i have only root with SU6-7 and locked bootloader?
A: You can not unlock your bootloader past SU4-21.
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thenameisnigel said:
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ok.
but can i have root with locked bootloader with the method that bricks the phone?
danger2u said:
ok.
but can i have root with locked bootloader with the method that bricks the phone?
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Yes.
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if i restart the phone,the root will remain ?
Busybox can be installed?
danger2u said:
if i restart the phone,the root will remain ?
Busybox can be installed?
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Only if you put it in the image before you flash it to the phone it seems, if you do it afterwards it does not persist.
another question
can we take the OTA update without losing root?
danger2u said:
another question
can we take the OTA update without losing root?
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Yes. But you will lose xposed if you installed it.
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danger2u said:
another question
can we take the OTA update without losing root?
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Didnt try it myself but from what ive gathered if you used the crashxxl method you will not loose root if you take the su6-7.2 OTA update.
Artimunor said:
Didnt try it myself but from what ive gathered if you used the crashxxl method you will not loose root if you take the su6-7.2 OTA update.
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i updated
the root it s still here.
will see with Lollipop if ever will be out for Droid maxx
ps: don t update if u want xposed.
danger2u said:
take it the update
the root it s still here.
will see with Lollipop if ever will be out for Droid maxx
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Dude why are you telling people to take the update when we already know that it'll break Xposed? If you're not here to help, don't post. Simple as that.
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thenameisnigel said:
Dude why are you telling people to take the update when we already know that it'll break Xposed? If you're not here to help, don't post. Simple as that.
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I take it the update
i don t tell anyone to update the Droid maxx.
are you referring to losing functionality of a baked in exposed? I am running the crash exploit, with non-baked exposed, on SU6-7.2
My phone won't root. I don't understand.
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No news on that front, especially since BlackBerry are very keen on keeping rooting from happening.
This might explain things: http://blogs.blackberry.com/2016/02/how-and-why-the-priv-protects-against-rooting/
As far as I understand, it is still impossible to root Priv. Sorry.
If you really need too root, flash a rom
sudar chawla said:
If you really need too root, flash a rom
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How are you going to flash a ROM without root?
Curious to see if the Quadrooter flaw will be able to get us root on the PRIV. It apparently works on the DTEK50, so it would be nice if we could get root on the PRIV too.
EDIT: Priv is vulnerable to this...
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2016/08/07/quadrooter/
Veritas06 said:
How are you going to flash a ROM without root?
Curious to see if the Quadrooter flaw will be able to get us root on the PRIV. It apparently works on the DTEK50, so it would be nice if we could get root on the PRIV too.
EDIT: Priv is vulnerable to this...
http://blog.checkpoint.com/2016/08/07/quadrooter/
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You can get TWRP without root. Its hard, but I'm pretty sure it's possible
sudar chawla said:
You can get TWRP without root. Its hard, but I'm pretty sure it's possible
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There is no way to get a Custom Recovery on the PRIV. That's why we're waiting to see what comes out of the Quadrooter vulnerabilities.
Veritas06 said:
There is no way to get a Custom Recovery on the PRIV. That's why we're waiting to see what comes out of the Quadrooter vulnerabilities.
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Sorry, I thought it was easy to unlock the bootloader
For those like myself that want to be able to use hotspot and do not have a custom ROM with it already enabled I found a working solution:
Step 1
Download this hacked apk here:
http://downloadmirror.co/Usp/CarrierEntitlement.apk
Step 2
Your going to want to paste this inside /system_root/system/priv-app/CarrierEntitlement and replace the one already there.
Step 3
Change the permissions on the hacked apk to match the ones on the original (so it functions the same way)
I have attached a screenshot from Root Explorer as to what the correct permissions settings looks like.
Step 4
Reboot and profit.
Cheers,
Jake
Have to be rooted I assume though?
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oneandroidnut said:
Have to be rooted I assume though?
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Yes because it requires overwriting a system apk. But this is easily achieved with flashing the SuperSU zip in TWRP
Can you explain how this is different than editing the build prop? Also what carrier are you using this mod with?
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JakeDHS07 said:
Yes because it requires overwriting a system apk. But this is easily achieved with flashing the SuperSU zip in TWRP
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sounds good i have no unlocked yet though lol
Ah yea. Most mods and hacks will require it. Luckily with our phones it's super easy and free and Officially supported by Google! All tutorials can be found directly through them online!
JakeDHS07 said:
Ah yea. Most mods and hacks will require it. Luckily with our phones it's super easy and free and Officially supported by Google! All tutorials can be found directly through them online!
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Yup yup my 6p was cake to unlock I'm just enjoying pixel stock so far
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This might be a stupid question but can I unroot after making the change?
I suppose. It will stay until you change roms or update. Long as you don't reflash anything it will persist.
If I choose to root device only, Pixel XL, and apply this method, will I still be able to receive the software/security updates from Google? I believe if you have a custom rom installed, it wouldn't work.
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I suppose. It will stay until you change roms or update. Long as you don't reflash anything it will persist.
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What exactly is the process to unroot without a reset? I've rooted every device I've owned and never went back... Until this one. I like android pay... So no root for now. Would love to do the mod and unroot if possible to keep Android pay working. But tethering is far more important than taping my phone to pay.
Inside SuperSU app there an Full Unroot option that will do it for you
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What exactly is the process to unroot without a reset? I've rooted every device I've owned and never went back... Until this one. I like android pay... So no root for now. Would love to do the mod and unroot if possible to keep Android pay working. But tethering is far more important than taping my phone to pay.
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Just side load the OTA image. Wont wipe a thing
You can just add the following line to your build.prop file, save and reboot then the provisioning check will be bypassed.
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
I'm curious why this method is better than the one already listed here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/pixel-xl/themes/mod-tethermod-systemless-install-guide-t3501448
The one linked above can be binded to the /su directory and will survive OTA's...plus it comes with an installer if you use TWRP
JakeDHS07 said:
Inside SuperSU app there an Full Unroot option that will do it for you
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Looks like I'll be rooting tonight then. But in reality other than tethering, I really have no need for root, or a need to jump on 7.1.1 just yet.... Unless there is some shiny new toy hidden inside it lol
I am curious which one I should do, I really would like to root it. I have the xt1625 without amazon adds
KingoRoot.
Be careful, there's a guide in the proper section (https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4/how-to/how-to-root-g4-fix-bootable-attempted-t3417592) that explain how to do it properly. KingoRoot apparently brick the phone :s
billubakra said:
KingoRoot.
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Well, it certainly is the quickest and easiest way to brick your phone.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=67728246
The steps in this thread work well for unlocking and rooting your non ad version Moto 4g
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Tel864 said:
Well, it certainly is the quickest and easiest way to brick your phone.
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Happy New Year.
Please explain what does it have to do with bricking the phone?
If I can tag along with this post... What is the best root method for the Amazon variant XT1625? According to Moto's website, this one (refurbished phone) apparently has an unlockable bootloader. It is running build number MPJ24.139-64.
Thanks,
billubakra said:
Happy New Year.
Please explain what does it have to do with bricking the phone?
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Anyone that uses King root is an idiot in my opinion, which I'm sure you don't care about.
billubakra said:
Happy New Year.
Please explain what does it have to do with bricking the phone?
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Anyone that uses King root is an idiot in my opinion, which I'm sure you don't care about that. What I do know early on was that there was some danger of your data going to of all places, China. Plus I don't like some of the exploits it uses to gain root. If you're happy with it though, go for it.
Isn't SuperSU now owned/maintained at least partially by a Chinese company?
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Anyone that uses King root is an idiot in my opinion, which I'm sure you don't care about.
Anyone that uses King root is an idiot in my opinion, which I'm sure you don't care about that. What I do know early on was that there was some danger of your data going to of all places, China. Plus I don't like some of the exploits it uses to gain root. If you're happy with it though, go for it.
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Can you please explain the bold part so that "idiots" like me can stop using that method to root.
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ansong said:
Isn't SuperSU now owned/maintained at least partially by a Chinese company?
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Yes, It is owned by a Chinese company, I read that too and I don't trust them either but almost every hardware that is in front of me right now is manufactured in China. I avoid Chinese apps and will block/firewall SuperSu/KingoSu if someone can explain to me how to do that.
Once u install a custom recovery all ROMs are prerooted why would anyone stay stock any why would anyone use kingroot
You don't need Kingroot. A you need to do is unlock the bootloader, install twrp and flash super su.
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Hello, i just want to know if i can use this root switch application, and i need to know if using this could brick my phone or not. I know magisk can brick my phone but i don't know if this app can.
link : https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634777108
Yakia said:
Hello, i just want to know if i can use this root switch application, and i need to know if using this could brick my phone or not. I know magisk can brick my phone but i don't know if this app can.
link : https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=817550096634777108
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could you give us more information about this??cant take a huge risk tho
nitroxsl said:
could you give us more information about this??cant take a huge risk tho
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Basically it's just an app to hide root by temporarily disabling root access for being able to open some apps that don't allow rooted devices
Nokia 6 can be rooted without pc? I seached many sites but i can't found the better way.
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sathis_khanna said:
Nokia 6 can be rooted without pc? I seached many sites but i can't found the better way.
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Nope, cuz you need to unlock bootloader to root without pc
Thanks! You have any idea to root nokia 6 ta_1021 8.1.0
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sathis_khanna said:
Thanks! You have any idea to root nokia 6 ta_1021 8.1.0
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/nokia-6/how-to/guide-how-to-flash-custom-recovery-root-t3702354