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It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
zoid_99 said:
It appears that real soon we may have root for locked bootloader devices running Lollipop.
Read here for more info.
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One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
Junior Passos said:
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
Lollipop requires some changes to have root access and that was only possible with a modified kernel.
Now Chainfire managed to root the Lollipop without a custom kernel.
But installing ZIP file of root need a custom recovery , so still need to have the device with unlocked bootloader .
I've done the root Lollipop using this new root method of Chainfire.
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If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
zoid_99 said:
If you read the article it appears that there is no need to install a zip in a custom recovery to get root with this method.
" the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here"
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Hmmm interesting.
Then the process should be with CF-Auto-Root .
I used one of those before when I first root in Lollipop.
But thought the command "mfastboot boot cf-auto-root.img" only work with unlocked bootloader and not the locked too.
Amazing.
Me excite!
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
godutch said:
You can only flash signed zips, so this only makes it easier because you dont need a device specific package for rooting
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Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
GatorsUF said:
Translated... Will it work on moto x vzw?
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No.
cam30era said:
No.
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OF course
This revelation means that Android 5.0 users*no longer need to run a modified kernel to gain root access via SuperSU (or other root solutions). While not a huge problem on Nexus devices with unlockable bootloaders, the need for ramdisk modifications was concerning for many users of bootloader-locked devices for which no unlock is available (yes, they do unfortunately exist). The answer to their prayers is now here, and we can present an exclusive explanation of the changes needed. At least for now (until/unless Google patch this), it is possible to gain root access and then install and use SuperSU on a stock Android 5.0 device, without any kernel ramdisk tweaking. The reason for this is the need for SuperSU to run a service as root, to allow for unconstrained root access on SELinux-protected devices.
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
neh4pres said:
Bump. We need root. Can't believe nobody seems to be working on a workaround. No safestrap? No kexec? No root? What happened to our glorious hackers?
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Thanks Motorola -_-
Buy a nexus 6. That's what I did. Still have the moto x for my wife so I can play with it
Can't afford it right now. If I knew programming, you bet I would be working on it. God I hate Verizon, but been here so long it's my cheapest option.
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
GrandMstrBud said:
Will the pure edition work on Verizon?
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From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
GreenMunky said:
From what I understand, if you pop an activated Verizon SIM card into it, it'll work. Read that it'll work on the unlocked Nexus 6 too.
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GrandMstrBud said:
LTE should work but what about CDMA side of it?
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No, CDMA will not work, nor 3G. So you will be confined only to LTE service and Google Voice (or similar).
matt99017d said:
The glorious hackers are/have tried. Security continues to be more and more difficult to break. Jump in the pool and get it done if you want it sooner. Otherwise, buy a pure edition so you can unlock the boot loader
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Looks like your idea will not work and maybe that's the reason for this thread? Pure Edition won't work on VZW
I am little shocked to see nothing has come out yet on root for OE1. What are your guys thoughts? Is there any hope us on OE1 will ever get root back?
XNO said:
I am little shocked to see nothing has come out yet on root for OE1. What are your guys thoughts? Is there any hope the us on OE1 will ever get root back?
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It's actually not Verizon, mostly. It's Samsung. I've seen the security on the Galaxy series grow since my GSIII.
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
kfres39389 said:
It's actually not Verizon, mostly. It's Samsung. I've seen the security on the Galaxy series grow since my GSIII.
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
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No, it's Verizon...they blocked HTC from root and access to the HTC unlock option. There are no issues rooting T-Mobile or Sprint S5s.
And no one should ever say never. Exploits just appear...like Towel Root, Kingo Root and KingRoot in the past...no one is aware of their creation...they just show up and work. So one never never knows (seewhatIdidthere) :silly:
KennyG123 said:
No, it's Verizon...they blocked HTC from root and access to the HTC unlock option. There are no issues rooting T-Mobile or Sprint S5s.
And no one should ever say never. Exploits just appear...like Towel Root, Kingo Root and KingRoot in the past...no one is aware of their creation...they just show up and work. So one never never knows (seewhatIdidthere) :silly:
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...but we can assume no one is working on rooting specifically the Verizon S5 with OE1 firmware.
Hmm, that's interesting. Thanks for the update. I used to be a serial flasher, but haven't quite kept up with the S5. Checking only now and then if any progress has been made on the latest update because I want to root because I miss some of those functions.
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
XNO said:
I am little shocked to see nothing has come out yet on root for OE1. What are your guys thoughts? Is there any hope us on OE1 will ever get root back?
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ldeveraux said:
...but we can assume no one is working on rooting specifically the Verizon S5 with OE1 firmware.
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It is more that it is not a rushed thing, most people have a rooted version of OE1 that uses OD5 bootloader. So fewer people are without root. It is just a way to directly root OE1 that is not available yet.
kfres39389 said:
Hmm, that's interesting. Thanks for the update. I used to be a serial flasher, but haven't quite kept up with the S5. Checking only now and then if any progress has been made on the latest update because I want to root because I miss some of those functions.
Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
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If you had not taken the OTA update or otherwise installed stock OE1 then you could have gotten a version of rooted OE1. It may be a while before people find anything to directly root OE1 or later, just because there are fewer people who need that, so not as much effort is being put into it.
Kaliaila said:
It is more that it is not a rushed thing, most people have a rooted version of OE1 that uses OD5 bootloader. So fewer people are without root. It is just a way to directly root OE1 that is not available yet.
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yeah, thanks, I already knew that. There's still most likely no way to root stock OE1 in the future. :good:
KennyG123 said:
No, it's Verizon...they blocked HTC from root and access to the HTC unlock option. There are no issues rooting T-Mobile or Sprint S5s.
And no one should ever say never. Exploits just appear...like Towel Root, Kingo Root and KingRoot in the past...no one is aware of their creation...they just show up and work. So one never never knows (seewhatIdidthere) :silly:
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I just upgraded to the S5 from Verizon. Will I be able to root? Will it do an automatic update when I turn it on?
So there is no way to root of you did update on your s5 for verizon?
It will come....we just gotta wait it out, or do it ourselves.
Sent from my SM-P905V using my telekinesis and long Johnson.
jtguldner said:
I just upgraded to the S5 from Verizon. Will I be able to root? Will it do an automatic update when I turn it on?
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Got my new s5 2 weeks ago... it came with it already installed.
I have received a notice of an OTA update for my SM-G900V. I am rooted Via towel root. android version 5.0 oc4 kernel 3.4.0 I did try to accept the update and it failed.
I since have tuned off update notices in T.B. Is this update something I need or even want? Or should I just keep the update
notification turned off? I don't want to lose root. Thanks in advance to all of the members and posters and XDA in general.
I have the same phone configuration as you, android version 5.0 oc4, kernel 3.4.0, but when I attempt to run Towelroot it tells me " This phone is not currently supported". Can you help me figure out how to root mine? Or point me to a step by step instructions for dummies(me)? Thank you.
LDBAKE said:
I have the same phone configuration as you, android version 5.0 oc4, kernel 3.4.0, but when I attempt to run Towelroot it tells me " This phone is not currently supported". Can you help me figure out how to root mine? Or point me to a step by step instructions for dummies(me)? Thank you.
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You're not trying to use towelroot on lollipop, are you?
If 5.0 is lollipop, and it is, then yes. I seem to have the same config as the OP and he indicated that he was rooted using towell root, so I was asking how he did it. Can you suggest a way to root 5.0? Thanks.
LDBAKE said:
If 5.0 is lollipop, and it is, then yes. I seem to have the same config as the OP and he indicated that he was rooted using towell root, so I was asking how he did it. Can you suggest a way to root 5.0? Thanks.
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1. You can't
2. Search first on how to downgrade
3. See #2
ldeveraux said:
1. You can't
2. Search first on how to downgrade
3. See #2
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Thanks. I've only had this phone for a few weeks, and I immediately started looking for a root process to get rid of bloatware. Very confusing situation. Lots of posts about One Click Root, Towelroot, etc....all very misleading, for a noob to Samsung. I had already seen the post you suggested, but (at this point) am not terribly interested in the downgrading route. Maybe later. Keep hopeing one of the brilliant devs here will figure out a way to root without downgrading first.
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Thanks. I've only had this phone for a few weeks, and I immediately started looking for a root process to get rid of bloatware. Very confusing situation. Lots of posts about One Click Root, Towelroot, etc....all very misleading, for a noob to Samsung. I had already seen the post you suggested, but (at this point) am not terribly interested in the downgrading route. Maybe later. Keep hopeing one of the brilliant devs here will figure out a way to root without downgrading first.
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This is what people don't understand: No one is working to root this phone on lollipop. There are assuredly folks working to crack the OS in general, but frankly no one cares about a legacy phone now that the S6 is out. So until L is exploited, there won't be any news for this phone.
So if your phone came with an OS lower than OE1, your only choice right now is to backup, downgrade, TR, profit. There is no one-click-root for the 900V. Honestly, just take half a day and do it. You'll be glad you did for just AdAway!
Read, reread the read again. then set aside a few hours. Good luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...-to-downgrade-lollipop-5-0-to-kitkat-t3088571
I don't wanna...
ldeveraux said:
This is what people don't understand: No one is working to root this phone on lollipop. There are assuredly folks working to crack the OS in general, but frankly no one cares about a legacy phone now that the S6 is out. So until L is exploited, there won't be any news for this phone.
So if your phone came with an OS lower than OE1, your only choice right now is to backup, downgrade, TR, profit. There is no one-click-root for the 900V. Honestly, just take half a day and do it. You'll be glad you did for just AdAway!
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...I don't wanna hack it. I am a professional developer that wants to legitimately register with Google as a trusted developer and get granted legal root access. Anywhow if I were to take half a day to do it, the next day Google updated the phone to Marshmallow 6.0 and I have to start all over again...like the proverbial sysyphus....
John Bonifas said:
...I don't wanna hack it. I am a professional developer that wants to legitimately register with Google as a trusted developer and get granted legal root access. Anywhow if I were to take half a day to do it, the next day Google updated the phone to Marshmallow 6.0 and I have to start all over again...like the proverbial sysyphus....
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If you were a professional, then you could probably figure out how to do it yourself?
I figured it out...
ldeveraux said:
If you were a professional, then you could probably figure out how to do it yourself?
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nah, nah, I was full of it. Apologies. See - what the carriers don't want you to know is that there are actually TWO versions of a device - the consumer version, which is completely locked down (as it should be), and the developer version of the device. OK, yeah the developer version of a device usually costs twice as much as the consumer version - but the bootloader is unlocked, it's easy to flash away the stock, non-root consumer ROM without fear of bricking, and its APIs probably have many more functions that help with debugging and performance tuning. So as a professional developer what I need to do is trade in my Galaxy S5 consumer edition for the developer edition, and I'll be able to install MultiROM, CyanogenMod, SuperSU, and all the other developer candy.
:good:
John Bonifas said:
nah, nah, I was full of it. Apologies. See - what the carriers don't want you to know is that there are actually TWO versions of a device - the consumer version, which is completely locked down (as it should be), and the developer version of the device. OK, yeah the developer version of a device usually costs twice as much as the consumer version - but the bootloader is unlocked, it's easy to flash away the stock, non-root consumer ROM without fear of bricking, and its APIs probably have many more functions that help with debugging and performance tuning. So as a professional developer what I need to do is trade in my Galaxy S5 consumer edition for the developer edition, and I'll be able to install MultiROM, CyanogenMod, SuperSU, and all the other developer candy.
:good:
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What you NEED to do is stop drinking before you post. Every user here knows of the dev edition, you're adding nothing new.
ldeveraux said:
This is what people don't understand: No one is working to root this phone on lollipop. There are assuredly folks working to crack the OS in general, but frankly no one cares about a legacy phone now that the S6 is out. So until L is exploited, there won't be any news for this phone.
So if your phone came with an OS lower than OE1, your only choice right now is to backup, downgrade, TR, profit. There is no one-click-root for the 900V. Honestly, just take half a day and do it. You'll be glad you did for just AdAway!
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...Except if you have a *Verizon* consumer edition phone. Then your out of luck, right? not even downgrading to 4.4 first will work, right? because of the signed bootloader image?
John Bonifas said:
...Except if you have a *Verizon* consumer edition phone. Then your out of luck, right? not even downgrading to 4.4 first will work, right? because of the signed bootloader image?
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You have to read what he wrote. If your Verizon consumer edition phone has the OE1 or OG5 build you have the locked down signed bootloader. If your Verizon consumer edition has a build prior to OE1, you can still downgrade to KitKat, root, and run a few ROMs through Safestrap or Flashfire.
landshark68 said:
You have to read what he wrote. If your Verizon consumer edition phone has the OE1 or OG5 build you have the locked down signed bootloader. If your Verizon consumer edition has a build prior to OE1, you can still downgrade to KitKat, root, and run a few ROMs through Safestrap or Flashfire.
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here is my build number: LRX21T.G900VVRU2BOG5
...am I out of luck?
thank you again for your continuing help landshark68, I'm an old PC developer but a complete noob at mobile dev, deciding whether to develop for Android, IOS, or Windows.
John Bonifas said:
here is my build number: LRX21T.G900VVRU2BOG5
...am I out of luck?
thank you again for your continuing help landshark68, I'm an old PC developer but a complete noob at mobile dev, deciding whether to develop for Android, IOS, or Windows.
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BOG5, you are out of luck. Sorry.
mercermtn said:
I have received a notice of an OTA update for my SM-G900V. I am rooted Via towel root. android version 5.0 oc4 kernel 3.4.0 I did try to accept the update and it failed.
I since have tuned off update notices in T.B. Is this update something I need or even want? Or should I just keep the update
notification turned off? I don't want to lose root. Thanks in advance to all of the members and posters and XDA in general.
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How do you turn off the OTA notification? I'm not gonna bother with the update but the notification is irritating.
B. J. said:
How do you turn off the OTA notification? I'm not gonna bother with the update but the notification is irritating.
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You disable it in tb
ldeveraux said:
You disable it in tb
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Yes. Thank you but my question is how do you disable it in Titanium backup. I'm not sure what it's called or what exactly to disable. Also when I find it do I disable it by freezing? I've tried what I thought was disabling it but I still get them. So I think I must be doing something wrong
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Yes. Thank you but my question is how do you disable it in Titanium backup. I'm not sure what it's called or what exactly to disable. Also when I find it do I disable it by freezing? I've tried what I thought was disabling it but I still get them. So I think I must be doing something wrong
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Freeze all packages in tb with the words SDM and SPD. Our you could delete them, but I wouldn't...
Hey,
I have two questions about the Axon7 and rooting in general.
First is, if there is a possibility to root the Axon7 without an unlocked bootloader. Just need the root for some Apps (e.g. adaway).
The second is: if there is a possibility to root the Axon, will OTA Updates work or how do I get updates?
Thanks for your help.
Gebo
Nobody Knows and Nobody Knows, in that order. Really, there's a gazillion threads about this already.
I look for others threads and did not find one about this topic. They all discuss about bootloader. As far as I understood, bootloader is needed for CustomRom? I just need simple root.
And i also did not find a thread about root and OTA. If you can post me links to these topics please? If I can find my answers anywhere else, this can be closed. Thank youf
GeboGER said:
I look for others threads and did not find one about this topic. They all discuss about bootloader. As far as I understood, bootloader is needed for CustomRom? I just need simple root.
And i also did not find a thread about root and OTA. If you can post me links to these topics please? If I can find my answers anywhere else, this can be closed. Thank youf
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isnt possible without unlocked bootloader
pwnerman said:
isnt possible without unlocked bootloader
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Well, you were able root without unlocked bootloader if there's a software exploit back in the day but those are very rare these day.
Lg GA was able to be rooted without an unlocked bootloader. Was even able to get a few roms loaded using an exploit.
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Lg GA was able to be rooted without an unlocked bootloader. Was even able to get a few roms loaded using an exploit.
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Exploits that give you full, permanent root are becoming harder to achieve in recent Android versions.
I know that for the zenfone 2 (ZE551ML) there was untethered twrp, this was then used to flash SuperSU to the device granting root access BUT that was when it was released with Android 5.0 Lollipop...
Hopefully this can carried over to Marshmallow for the Zenfone 3, it might give us some hope too...
Depends how many Devs actually get this device....
xtermmin said:
Exploits that give you full, permanent root are becoming harder to achieve in recent Android versions.
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Darn companies not wanting us to screw around with our devices! Lol I can see why they don't want us to in a way. I just want more customized options.
I dont want to unlock bootloader yet. So i wanted to root the device safely without flashing anything.
You simply can't flash any zips unless on a custom recovery and for that you have to unlock bootloader.
BTW the first thing i did upon getting my op5 was to unlock the bootloader.
"Root without flashing anything."
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PrakashGD said:
I dont want to unlock bootloader yet. So i wanted to root the device safely without flashing anything.
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Why not?
0xTJ said:
Why not?
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If something goes wrong I may brick the phone
PrakashGD said:
If something goes wrong I may brick the phone
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You're more likely to brick your phone using a janky and sketchy no-unlocking method than using the documented and manufacturer-recommended method.
0xTJ said:
You're more likely to brick your phone using a janky and sketchy no-unlocking method than using the documented and manufacturer-recommended method.
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I want to keep my device untouched for some time. Thats why im looking for alternative method to root the device.
PrakashGD said:
I want to keep my device untouched for some time. Thats why im looking for alternative method to root the device.
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Rooting touches your device just as much. Unlocking the bootloader is like using the key to open a door to get into a building. Trying to do it without unlocking is like using a sledgehammer to break in through the door.
PrakashGD said:
I want to keep my device untouched for some time. Thats why im looking for alternative method to root the device.
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Impossible, its like wanting to make an omelet without breaking an egg
You can just lock the bootloader again and noone would know you'd unlocked it. One Plus isn't like Samsung!
gee2012 said:
Impossible, its like wanting to make an omelet without breaking an egg
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Dude ur reference is dope ??
gee2012 said:
Impossible, its like wanting to make an omelet without breaking an egg
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If there is a security flaw it's possible to root it. It's been happening with phones like sony for ages
B3501 said:
You can just lock the bootloader again and noone would know you'd unlocked it. One Plus isn't like Samsung!
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Yes but one-click root apps are very unreliable in general and most don`t even work nowadays (especialy system less root). Unlocking the bootloader and flashing Magisk or superSU with TWRP is the best and safest method atm.
gee2012 said:
Yes but one-click root apps are very unreliable in general and most don`t even work nowadays (especialy system less root). Unlocking the bootloader and flashing Magisk or superSU with TWRP is the best and safest method atm.
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What? I didn't say anything about one-click root apps?!
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What? I didn't say anything about one-click root apps?!
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Sorry, quoted the wrong user meant the post of @xabierd
Mate, if you don't want to replace your recovery with TWRP, go to fastboot, make sure you have your phone discoverable and use the command "fastboot boot recovery.zip" - recovery.zip being TWRP. This will just boot into TWRP where you can flash magisk or supersu. This won't replace your stock recovery.
You will still need to unlock your bootloader however...