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Hi,
I am going to buy a new phone but I can't decide what to buy. I have 3 options. Oneplus 5, Huawei P10 or Huawei Mate 9. Since all of them really powerfull I focused on camera, design and battery. Which one should I buy?
Oneplus 5 has a great camera. The Huawei P10 is no slouch either.
I am not a fan of the Huawei Mate 9 design, I lean more towards the P10 and OnePlus 5.
The battery life on OnePlus 5 is excellent I'm getting about 7 to 8 hours of screen on time.
PS. I'm not a fan of the stock launcher on Huawei either. I would want to change it to Nova launcher really quickly.
I would get the OnePlus 5 but I am obviously a bias on the matter. All in all they are great options, and I don't think you would be disappointed in any of them.
You could try the honor 9. It sounds really good too. The camera seems to be focused on being high powered. I'd go for that one as opposed to the other Huawei phones you mentioned
It comes down to what you want. Do you want stock-ish android with tons of custom rom support? And the easiest bootloader unlock on android (Will grow even more in the future) or are you okay with the bloated emui with next to no ROM support?
I have a oneplus 5 and my mom a mate 9. Emui constantly nags her about shutting down nova launcher amongst other apps. It won't even allow her to open them at certain points. And it has very, VERY aggressive ram management.
Now they're both extremely fast phones with great cameras ..
The mate 9 is significantly better at battery life.. But my oneplus 5 will get me through the day for sure. The mate 9 would bee more like a day and a half.
It really comes down to what you want. You should give us some more information on your preferences.
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It comes down to what you want. Do you want stock-ish android with tons of custom rom support? And the easiest bootloader unlock on android (Will grow even more in the future) or are you okay with the bloated emui with next to no ROM support?
I have a oneplus 5 and my mom a mate 9. Emui constantly nags her about shutting down nova launcher amongst other apps. It won't even allow her to open them at certain points. And it has very, VERY aggressive ram management.
Now they're both extremely fast phones with great cameras ..
The mate 9 is significantly better at battery life.. But my oneplus 5 will get me through the day for sure. The mate 9 would bee more like a day and a half.
It really comes down to what you want. You should give us some more information on your preferences.
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How these phone cameras compare? I'm interested if the Oneplus 5 camera is a step-up in camera department from the Mate.
zackaryk said:
Oneplus 5 has a great camera. The Huawei P10 is no slouch either.
I am not a fan of the Huawei Mate 9 design, I lean more towards the P10 and OnePlus 5.
The battery life on OnePlus 5 is excellent I'm getting about 7 to 8 hours of screen on time.
PS. I'm not a fan of the stock launcher on Huawei either. I would want to change it to Nova launcher really quickly.
I would get the OnePlus 5 but I am obviously a bias on the matter. All in all they are great options, and I don't think you would be disappointed in any of them.
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Thank you very much. What about camera? Are you happy? Also Is outside brightness enough for you?
OcazPrime said:
You could try the honor 9. It sounds really good too. The camera seems to be focused on being high powered. I'd go for that one as opposed to the other Huawei phones you mentioned
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It's not avaible in my country.
MrWilsonxD said:
It comes down to what you want. Do you want stock-ish android with tons of custom rom support? And the easiest bootloader unlock on android (Will grow even more in the future) or are you okay with the bloated emui with next to no ROM support?
I have a oneplus 5 and my mom a mate 9. Emui constantly nags her about shutting down nova launcher amongst other apps. It won't even allow her to open them at certain points. And it has very, VERY aggressive ram management.
Now they're both extremely fast phones with great cameras ..
The mate 9 is significantly better at battery life.. But my oneplus 5 will get me through the day for sure. The mate 9 would bee more like a day and a half.
It really comes down to what you want. You should give us some more information on your preferences.
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Thank you very much! One day in long usage is fine. Mate 9 is really big and heavy. Also I have to change it's region after I buy it beacuse i can't buy it with official warrenty. Region change is hard because of bootloader and there aren't much developers.
What about P10? I can buy P10 with official warrenty. Price of P10 and Oneplus 5 are almost same here.
TheAreS said:
Thank you very much! One day in long usage is fine. Mate 9 is really big and heavy. Also I have to change it's region after I buy it beacuse i can't buy it with official warrenty. Region change is hard because of bootloader and there aren't much developers.
What about P10? I can buy P10 with official warrenty. Price of P10 and Oneplus 5 are almost same here.
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Honestly, there's no comparing the ease of using the oneplus 5 to any huawei device with region changes/ bootloader unlock/ dev community.. Personally I give the edge to the oneplus for simplicity. There's no hoops you have to jump through to operate your phone. The mate 9/p10 are all hoops.. My mom can't get updates on her mate 9 because she lives stateside..
Again, I think the battery size the mate 9 or p10 have over the oneplus 5.. But if you're charging every night, it won't make a difference. Furthermore, the availability of dash charge accessories is more widely available than the mate 9 super or turbo charge accessories.
Don't get me wrong, both are great phones, but really, the oneplus offers a better software experience I think, which is the most important part I think..with So many other aspects being so close.
4k eis on oneplus 5 is incredible btw..
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Honestly, there's no comparing the ease of using the oneplus 5 to any huawei device with region changes/ bootloader unlock/ dev community.. Personally I give the edge to the oneplus for simplicity. There's no hoops you have to jump through to operate your phone. The mate 9/p10 are all hoops.. My mom can't get updates on her mate 9 because she lives stateside..
Again, I think the battery size the mate 9 or p10 have over the oneplus 5.. But if you're charging every night, it won't make a difference. Furthermore, the availability of dash charge accessories is more widely available than the mate 9 super or turbo charge accessories.
Don't get me wrong, both are great phones, but really, the oneplus offers a better software experience I think, which is the most important part I think..with So many other aspects being so close.
4k eis on oneplus 5 is incredible btw..
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Huawei P10 has 3200Mah battery. I think OnePlus 5's battery goes more than P10's. Am I correct?
The camera of p10 is better imo, it can take black and white shots etc. Also it has official Huawei warrenty.
Battery is more important for me so I think I will go for OnePlus 5. Thank you very much for that great informations.
Lastly I heard OnePlus5 outdoor brightness is not enough, what do you think about it?
TheAreS said:
Huawei P10 has 3200Mah battery. I think OnePlus 5's battery goes more than P10's. Am I correct?
The camera of p10 is better imo, it can take black and white shots etc. Also it has official Huawei warrenty.
Battery is more important for me so I think I will go for OnePlus 5. Thank you very much for that great informations.
Lastly I heard OnePlus5 outdoor brightness is not enough, what do you think about it?
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Actually, the outdoor brightness is surprisingly good! The OP5 has a screen that seems very similar to the S8, in terms of brightness and colors (my opinion). It's a really good Super Amoled screen compared to the rest of the Flagships aside from Samsung.
Maybe you get biased thoughts, since you are on a 1+5 forum.
I was in the same doubt as you, between 1+5 and Mate 9.
What I discovered reading many threads and watching many videos is:
- Mate 9 takes better photos, has better sunlight legibility (besides being amoled, 1+5s screen under sunlight sucks), have better battery life (slightly, because SD835 is very power efficient), have better audio recording and video recording, have better loudspeakers and better cell signal reception.
- 1+5 is faster (not by a big margin), is lighter and not bulky (Mate 9 is very big), have better WiFi performance and much better community development.
Android O is on schedule to Huawei phones, but certainly will come much faster to 1+5.
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Csetoue said:
Maybe you get biased thoughts, since you are on a 1+5 forum.
I was in the same doubt as you, between 1+5 and Mate 9.
What I discovered reading many threads and watching many videos is:
- Mate 9 takes better photos, has better sunlight legibility (besides being amoled, 1+5s screen under sunlight sucks), have better battery life (slightly, because SD835 is very power efficient), have better audio recording and video recording, have better loudspeakers and better cell signal reception.
- 1+5 is faster (not by a big margin), is lighter and not bulky (Mate 9 is very big), have better WiFi performance and much better community development.
Android O is on schedule to Huawei phones, but certainly will come much faster to 1+5.
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I have both - WiFi is better on the Mate 9.
shadymouse said:
Actually, the outdoor brightness is surprisingly good! The OP5 has a screen that seems very similar to the S8, in terms of brightness and colors (my opinion). It's a really good Super Amoled screen compared to the rest of the Flagships aside from Samsung.
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Csetoue said:
Maybe you get biased thoughts, since you are on a 1+5 forum.
I was in the same doubt as you, between 1+5 and Mate 9.
What I discovered reading many threads and watching many videos is:
- Mate 9 takes better photos, has better sunlight legibility (besides being amoled, 1+5s screen under sunlight sucks), have better battery life (slightly, because SD835 is very power efficient), have better audio recording and video recording, have better loudspeakers and better cell signal reception.
- 1+5 is faster (not by a big margin), is lighter and not bulky (Mate 9 is very big), have better WiFi performance and much better community development.
Android O is on schedule to Huawei phones, but certainly will come much faster to 1+5.
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Thank you very much you all! I ordered 1+5 and it will arrive today. I think it's the best option for me.
I have Huawei P20 Pro now, and OP 6t or 6 is interesting for me I want to find out the Oxygen OS.
But I'll change my phone in fall, to a Pixel 4/4 XL, OP 7T or Note 10.
Camera, software, battery life and teh speakers which is important for me.
Camera is great on p20 pro but Pixel is better in this category, front facing camera is so bad at p20 pro and I like the pixel's more, and OP has ported Gcam. How good is that?
Battery life on this phone is great, and probably the 6T is as good as it, because OP always has good battery life and the 6/6T runs Android Pie which is also better for battery.
Software where is the P20 Pro is bleeding. Emui is the worst I've ever used. I did not use stock android or Oxygen OS. I just saw them on my frieand's rooted phone. I I love the smoothness and the cleanness of the stock android, and the customizations of Oxygen OS. That's why I'm interested in Pixel 4/4xl or OP devices.
Speakers is not too much important but good to have stereo speakers. What is a sad point at OP but Google Pixels has good speakers.
Display is not the best on P20 pro. I used Galaxy Note 8 before and Samsung is the king of the screens. It was sharper, it had better colors. But the screen is just a good point, not necessarily to be better than the Samsung's Amoled display.
I want to try out the OP maybe I'll not like it that much as I expect, but I might help then to chose between Pixel 4/4XL and OP 7T.
So my question is.
Should I chane my P20 pro for this couple of months to a OP 6 or 6t?
Or just wait for Pixel 4/4xl or OP 7t?
Thank you for helping me!
Camera is average, Speaker is average, Battery life is amazing, Software can be good latest patch is a bit meh but older builds are great.
It comes down to how much money you will lose from the P20 and then on the 6T if that's an issue for you. If money is no problem then go for it :laugh:
Camera is average, but what about ported GCam? Does it help a lot or just a bit better??
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Camera is average, but what about ported GCam? Does it help a lot or just a bit better??
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Just a bit better... Camera sensors are budget Sony sensors.. So yeah nothing amazing going on here in the camera department if you require it at top of your list look elsewhere.
I came from P20 Pro as well. Go for it. You will not regret it.
Camera is really fine. The gcam mod makes it even better, especially portrait shots. You won't miss the P20 camera after a few days.
There is a stereo speaker mod for oneplus devices so you will not really miss that as well.
Battery is about the same usually. I'm getting even better battery life with the 6T with custom kernel.
Oxygen OS is far better than EMUI so you're gonna love it.
Thank you!
I think I give it a try. I'm interested in OP so it will be good for experience. If I like it and the Pixel will have some issues, I might stay with 6T for a longer time.
I would definitely wait for the OnePlus 7. The 6 and 6T are good options but the cameras not great,and no dual speakers, battery life is great on the 6T,I had the 6 also and honestly prefer the 6 over the 6T because its the fingerprint is better and the software is better optimized on the 6.
The only main advantage you would get from switching to OnePlus from where you are now would be the software.It is much cleaned and much faster than anything else with regular updates especially on the open betas.
If you must,go with the 6T if you don't mind ghe slower in screen fingerprint,but has bigger battery.
I would just wait for the 7 at this stage
Actually I don't want to pay for 7, I will be more expensive than the P20 pro, and my main plan is buy a Pixel 4 or 4 XL, so I'll go for 6T which is near same price with P20 pro, and save money for later to the pixel's.
Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry
I spent a couple of days doing camera comparisons with my Pixel 3 XL, which I sent back on Friday (got my Note 10 on Wednesday). I found that I personally like the photos in daylight better from the Note 10, as they look just a bit more "punchy" and clear to me, but that's Samsung applying a deeper saturation and more sharpening. YMMV on that. Early reviews I read online said that it was on par with the Pixel 3 in daylight, but quickly fell apart in low light. I'm happy to report that wasn't my experience at all. Night mode works great, and while it would be nice to have an indicator of how long to hold it, it seems to be just as fast at the Pixel 3. The Pixel 3 did beat it out just a bit with clarity, but not by a very wide margin. I did some blind comparison test between shots from the Note 10 and the Pixel 3 XL with my girlfriend (who has a Pixel 3 XL of her own), and 9 of the 11 shots she picked were the Note 10 shots over the Pixel 3. She prefered the Pixel 3's selfie shot and it's Night Sight shot, but she said she really couldn't tell much of a difference in them.
Aside from quality, I like different Live Focus backgrounds, and being able to swipe up from a corner on the lockscreen to get to the camera is a huge plus for me. It's much faster for me to go from pocket to shot now. I'm going to a convention this weekend, so I expect to get some good use out of the triple cameras too. All in all, I'm beyond happy with the Note 10 camera, and coming from the Pixel 3 XL, I was very concerned, as that was hands down the best camera on a phone I'd ever used. The Note 10 isn't leaps and bounds better, but it is better, in my opinion.
As much as I like Note 10, camera is crap compared to Pixel 3. I've been shooting all day and most images are near useless if subject is moving, automatic in anything less then ideal conditions is also terrible, and can only be improved with Pro mode. Faces are too white and details are all washed out. I had exactly the same results with S10 that I returned
I am not sure what Samsung is thinking. Big company and great hardware, $1000 phone, yet software is not good and photos are behind even Pixel 1
Ps. I am leaning towards keeping the phone anyway and will give Gcam a try
Note 10+ Night Camera is really crap compared to the Pixel phone.... Ugh... Samsung again with their bs
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Did Samsung improve the shutter speed on Note10+?? When I had the S10+ the still photos looked great, however it was hard to get a picture of my daughter(18mo old) that didn't look blurry
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No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.
You have to use Pro mode in order to get anything useful with moving subject. Or Gcam maybe, I haven't tried yet
Daylight shots are very good though, I would say even better then Pixel
ZayaanAhyaan said:
No they haven't. I had a good hands on with the device at their stores and took my kids to just specially test this out.
I sold my S10 plus for this very reason and unfortunately in the Note note 10, they still haven't sorted it out. I had a Galaxy Note 8 and that was the last Samsung without this issue. I think it's something to do with the dual aperture.
Installing Gcam seems to help a lot but I have Exynos chip and doesn't get ported very well.
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Same thing here with my wife's S10e. Since my S7 I hate this. Nowadays I have an iPhone Xr and this is not a problem, fortunately... But I'd like to go back to Android again... Maybe with Pixel 4...
Using pro mode on S10e I've got a nice result setting the shutter speed at least at 1/250. But you lose performance on HDR... So it's like a short sheet... You cover something and uncover other...
That's another mess, the pro mode.
On my note 8, i chose to keep a fast shutter speed and my preferred white balance with iso as a shortcut on home screen. This way it allowed me to directly jump into 3 of my preferred pro mode setting directly without fiddling and adjusting, but as always, Samsung had to take a damn step back and removed this shortcut starting from note 9.
Hmmmnnn. I had a note 8, and all the others besides the 9. Any of them, like any other cameras I have used(cameras and camcorders), with the faster shutter speeds, I always use manual(or as Samsung likes to call pro). I guess most of my subjects when I learned were really fast(rc helicopters doing aerobatics and saltwater reef tanks), so the old rule of 'learn manual shooting first and don't rely on auto' saved me.
Neither of those environments are ideal, and i learned to just 'make' the cameras work for me. It's not a fault of the devices, it's just the honest inherent nature of auto mode.. I also love macro photography, so that is another realm in which manual knowledge is key..
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The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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Portrait is very good as far as i'm concerned. Maybe malfunctionning device ? I have exynos as well and no pb with photos (EDIT : i have Note 10 Plus though so maybe TOF does the job).
My portait photos are probably the most striking and accurate i ever took with a smartphone, i have very nice pics of my kids taken with it.
Single hairs on sides are not blurred either, it only blurs the background and does it right.
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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Plain wrong... Post exemple or it never happened.
Camera is not good but much better than OP7
villadecai said:
I am very disappointed with cameras .
Low definition and quality when you do not have 100% of light .
Night mode it **** also.
I came from op6 and did better photos stock and with gcam.
Samsung camera processing it is the worst one
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I compared with OP7 and found that Note 10 (Exynos) is far better when compared to OnePlus 7.
Though Pixel 2 XL have much better camera
Just wondering whether the staggering difference in photo quality between Exynos and Snapdragon versions of Note 10 is here as well. I was shocked how far better was Galaxy S9 (Snapdragon) in this term.
Definitely isn't this year...the Exynos model has improved a lot so much so there's a huge difference between the photo quality of the note 10 and the S10 5g I had.
new update to camera today
watsinaname said:
The portrait mood has bee the single most disappointing feature for me, perhaps we are spoiled by the gcam quality, but samsung could have done better.
Having an Exynos device makes it even more challenging to find a stable fully functional gcam.
I am almost inclining towards finding a pixel (2/3a or 3) just for camera capabilities.
Even the poco with it's xiaomi camera did a better job at portraits
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That is weird, I find portrait quality to be much better than my Note 8 and iphone XS Max, edge definition is outstanding compared to iphones and I have taken portrait shots that are as good (resolution aside) as my Canon 70D with 85mm lens.
Hi , I would like to buy a smartphone I had recently huawei mate 20 simple not the pro I hesitate between huawei p30 pro samsung galaxy s10 + and note 9 version snapdragon what you advised for me what interests me a lot is the camera and the life of the battery,sorry for my english thank you:good:
samlis said:
Hi , I would like to buy a smartphone I had recently huawei mate 20 simple not the pro I hesitate between huawei p30 pro samsung galaxy s10 + and note 9 version snapdragon what you advised for me what interests me a lot is the camera and the life of the battery,sorry for my english thank you:good:
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The Huawei P30 pro has a great camera and a solid battery but a 1080p display and the software experience isn't that great imo.
The Note 9 is an amazing all around phone that I would consider if you're looking for a bargain but the Note 10 will be available in less than a month.
The S10 plus has everything, the camera, the display the software experience the battery. You just can't go wrong with this phone.
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Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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I dont see the big deal that involves the camera sooo much yanno theres a millions things on a phone other than the camera if you wanna good camera buy a camera
If I were you , I'll just see and wait for the note 10 to see what it offers better
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I dont see the big deal that involves the camera sooo much yanno theres a millions things on a phone other than the camera if you wanna good camera buy a camera
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I agree. The S10+ has a lot of great things about it but the OP specifically listed the camera as being one of his top priorities. Samsung has fallen behind its competitors in that area. If the OP had a Mate 20 he might be disappointed with the Galaxy camera.
The Galaxy S10+ also charges much less quickly than Huawei and Xiaomi phones (the speed difference is huge with wireless charging) which is the other obvious area where Samsung has fallen behind their competitors.
I think Samsung's huge market share made them complacent which is why they haven't kept pace with innovation--the Galaxy phones have only been offering incremental upgrades from year to year for a while now.
Supposedly the S11 Galaxy line is finally going to change that but we have a while to wait on those.
S10+ exynos for the win
jhs39 said:
Samsung has been using the same camera sensor since the Galaxy 7 which is 4 generations of Galaxy phones with no upgrade. Currently Huawei and Xiaomi phones both take much better pics than Samsung. If camera is your top concern Samsung should not be anywhere near the top of your list. The camera on my Xiaomi MI 9 which costs all of $350 on sale smokes the S10+ camera.
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I had Mi9 right before S10 (now S10+). Mi9 low light and indoor light photos are soo bad, even sometimes unusable, no matter with or without tripod. No OIS... Day photos are very good, same like S10+
...from phones mentioned in OP I would go for S10+.
edit: @ jhs38 like usual, stock camera doesn't have any options for improving picture quality in Auto mode. Just picture format, light conditions and HDR on/off
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I had Mi9 right before S10 (now S10+). Mi9 low light and indoor light photos are soo bad, even sometimes unusable, no matter with or without tripod. No OIS... Day photos are very good, same like S10+
...from phones mentioned in OP I would go for S10+.
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I can't agree at all. People who say that usually have the camera app set up wrong. For me both the MI 9 and Mix 2S took excellent low light pictures. I also owned the Huawei Mate 20P and Pixel XL, which are both considered excellent camera phones. All 4 of those phones took better pictures than my Galaxy S10+ regardless of light or any other conditions.
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I can't agree at all. People who say that usually have the camera app set up wrong. For me both the MI 9 and Mix 2S took excellent low light pictures. I also owned the Huawei Mate 20P and Pixel XL, which are both considered excellent camera phones. All 4 of those phones took better pictures than my Galaxy S10+ regardless of light or any other conditions.
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Wow man, I don't know what did you smoke because there's no way the mate20pro has better camera than the s10+ (I ditched my mate 20 pro)
The wide lens is wider on the s10, the selfies are MILES better, because of the autofocus (only Samsung phones have it)
The video on ANY Huawei (or Chinese phone for that matter) phone is horrible.
And yes the STOCK camera has better night mode on Huawei/Xiaomi but you just install the gcam and boom, problem solved (oh did I forgot to mention that you can't install **** on Kirin processors?)
And that's just on the camera department.
The screen is just hideous on any phone that isn't a galaxy or an iPhone(no I don't have an iPhone but I've seen them and they're good)
The dual speaker is waaay better also on galaxy, specially s10
The software on Chinese phones is horrible.
And the list could go on and on...
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Wow man, I don't know what did you smoke because there's no way the mate20pro has better camera than the s10+ (I ditched my mate 20 pro)
The wide lens is wider on the s10, the selfies are MILES better, because of the autofocus (only Samsung phones have it)
The video on ANY Huawei (or Chinese phone for that matter) phone is horrible.
And yes the STOCK camera has better night mode on Huawei/Xiaomi but you just install the gcam and boom, problem solved (oh did I forgot to mention that you can't install **** on Kirin processors?)
And that's just on the camera department.
The screen is just hideous on any phone that isn't a galaxy or an iPhone(no I don't have an iPhone but I've seen them and they're good)
The dual speaker is waaay better also on galaxy, specially s10
The software on Chinese phones is horrible.
And the list could go on and on...
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I don't think it's even possible to find a professional tech review that claims the S10+ camera is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera--although I never use smartphone cameras to record video so I can't comment on that.
Most people use their smartphone cameras for point and shoot pictures and for low light or bright light pics, detail and color the M20P camera is far superior to the S10+ camera.
When you are talking about specific photographic effects that's a different area because a lot of that is achieved through the coding of the camera app and some phone brands choose to focus on different options than other brands.
I'm not serious enough about smartphone photography to play with all of the various effects and options available in the cameras on any smartphone. If you are you certainly might find things you prefer in the Samsung camera app which was considered one of the best in the business until a couple years ago.
As far as I know everybody who does professional tests and reviews gives the cameras in the recent Huawei flagships much higher marks than the S10+ camera.
From personal experience when I was in a car wreck in April I took lots of pics with my M20P (before going to the hospital emergency room for 9 hours because of a serious concussion).
When I later printed out individual pics of the accident damage at enlarged 8.5"x11" size the level of detail in the enlargements was astounding--in pics taken from 6 feet away something as small as the head of a screw was razor sharp.
In my own tests with the S10+ camera enlarged pictures don't have anything close to comparable clarity and detail.
The only reason I eventually opted to get rid of my M20P after about 6 months was that it didn't support Volte on T-Mobile in the United States (unlike the P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro, Mix 2S & MI 9). It turns out that on T-Mobile if a phone supports band 12 without also supporting Volte calls frequently go straight to voicemail without the phone ringing first.
I got a MI 9 which I like but the battery in that phone is too small for the hardware plus MIUI is a lot more buggy than it was on the Mix 2S.
When I found a good deal on an unlocked S10+ I decided to try Samsung again for the first time since the Galaxy 3.
The S10+ is definitely very good in many ways but if Samsung were forced to compete head to head with Huawei and Xiaomi in the United States it would be impossible to justify the $1000 list price it cost at launch.
When compared with Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi devices the S10+ should be a $600 phone--possibly $700 at launch.
But since Samsung has nobody to compete against in the United States other than One Plus and Google Pixel $1000 doesn't seem nearly as inflated as it should.
jhs39 said:
I don't think it's even possible to find a professional tech review that claims the S10+ camera is better than the Mate 20 Pro camera--although I never use smartphone cameras to record video so I can't comment on that.
Most people use their smartphone cameras for point and shoot pictures and for low light or bright light pics, detail and color the M20P camera is far superior to the S10+ camera.
When you are talking about specific photographic effects that's a different area because a lot of that is achieved through the coding of the camera app and some phone brands choose to focus on different options than other brands.
I'm not serious enough about smartphone photography to play with all of the various effects and options available in the cameras on any smartphone. If you are you certainly might find things you prefer in the Samsung camera app which was considered one of the best in the business until a couple years ago.
As far as I know everybody who does professional tests and reviews gives the cameras in the recent Huawei flagships much higher marks than the S10+ camera.
From personal experience when I was in a car wreck in April I took lots of pics with my M20P (before going to the hospital emergency room for 9 hours because of a serious concussion).
When I later printed out individual pics of the accident damage at enlarged 8.5"x11" size the level of detail in the enlargements was astounding--in pics taken from 6 feet away something as small as the head of a screw was razor sharp.
In my own tests with the S10+ camera enlarged pictures don't have anything close to comparable clarity and detail.
The only reason I eventually opted to get rid of my M20P after about 6 months was that it didn't support Volte on T-Mobile in the United States (unlike the P20 Pro, Mate 10 Pro, Mix 2S & MI 9). It turns out that on T-Mobile if a phone supports band 12 without also supporting Volte calls frequently go straight to voicemail without the phone ringing first.
I got a MI 9 which I like but the battery in that phone is too small for the hardware plus MIUI is a lot more buggy than it was on the Mix 2S.
When I found a good deal on an unlocked S10+ I decided to try Samsung again for the first time since the Galaxy 3.
The S10+ is definitely very good in many ways but if Samsung were forced to compete head to head with Huawei and Xiaomi in the United States it would be impossible to justify the $1000 list price it cost at launch.
When compared with Huawei, Honor and Xiaomi devices the S10+ should be a $600 phone--possibly $700 at launch.
But since Samsung has nobody to compete against in the United States other than One Plus and Google Pixel $1000 doesn't seem nearly as inflated as it should.
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Last paragraph spot on.
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It was announced today that the Note 10 might feature an AI assisted camera which supports what I was saying earlier about the Samsung camera lagging behind its competitors--both Huawei and Xiaomi added that functionality to the cameras in their flagship phones 2 years ago.
But since Samsung doesn't have to compete against Huawei or Xiaomi in the United States a lot of people here will think Samsung is being innovative.
Hi,
I was thinking of buying the op8Pro but for me camera is important (I am coming from a p30 pro) I wanted to ask how the selfie pictures are? How is night mode and so on. And if the latest gcam is working on this device
Cameras are brilliant, plus the gcam alternatives are a lot better than anything Huawei has.
Like anything, the more time you spend with the device the better.
Could they be better, of course all cameras could.
Main pull from OnePlus is it's flexibility and openness, well at least for now anyway..
I'm coming from a p20 pro myself and I really hated it after about 4 months. The OS is just vile.
The reason I was asking is, if it is worth to wait for the t version. I'm not sure if I should just buy it or go for the t variant...