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In this topic discuss about this 2 devices. Are you satisfied to see lg's new phone? How is new UI compare to G4? Does G5's modules worth?
If you ask me : The design of g5 simply awful than g4. Probably the build quality is better. New UI not bad at all. Only thing that i didn't like is that, there is no app drawer on G5. It is interesting to see mew modules on G5 but for me, i don't need to use them.
Hands-on videos made me change idea about this new G5:
It seems to be a very good phone and the new UI is quite fashinating to me
(But launcher icons are ugly, ahah :silly
I don't appriciate new design (the front), but that would be confortable to use, IMHO
Think they should have stuck to 5.5 inch but guess their thinking is 5.3 inch phone is nearer size of most of the flagship phone competition, so in theory more likely to sell more units. Whether in reality that's the situation only time will tell
The smaller display means no G5 for me....5.5in is the smallest display I will go for these days.
I'm going to see what the S7 Edge looks like (on paper and in-hand)...the rumoured 5.7in screen with the curves might feel like a 5.5in device without the curves. The battery and waterproofing I'm hearing about has me interested in this product, and the Note 5 has much better outdoor brightness so I'm hoping that will carry forward to the S7 series.
If the S7 Edge does not do it for me ergonomically, then I'll see what the V11/Note 6 has to offer later this year, or if I get impatient maybe the Nexus 6P (but the 6P might not be much of an upgrade for me over the G4).
Personally,im not very impressed with the new G5.
I'll wait for the g6
Also waiting for the G6. Or the new nexus, we'll see how it compares.
Most likely, bootloader unlock will be impossible, so for me it's a no go (but that's subject to change if development takes off)
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Can't see many people buying modules. After all your gonna need to take case off of you want to use them, and how many people are going to want to risk dropping their brand new phone without a case on. I just can't see it taking off anyhow, don't see that's whatwhat the majority of people want from a phone.
And the metal premium body looks pain ugly imo. May have well stuck with plastic/leather.
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Think they should have stuck to 5.5 inch but guess their thinking is 5.3 inch phone is nearer size of most of the flagship phone competition, so in theory more likely to sell more units. Whether in reality that's the situation only time will tell
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Sure, they should've used 5.5" screen, but that raises one important question: How big do you think the G5 would be if they used 5.5"? I look at it this way, G2 had 5.2" and one of the best screen-to-body ratios ever. Now the G5 has 5.3" screen while at the same time being taller than the G4 and having a smaller battery... Not impressed at all . They are fishing in the dark, experimenting too much and instead of focusing on the important stuff (soc, screen, camera, battery, design), they introduce some gimmicky "friends" whom practically nobody will use as they will probbably cost 50% of the price of G5. I'm a bit dissapointed...
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Can't see many people buying modules. After all your gonna need to take case off of you want to use them, and how many people are going to want to risk dropping their brand new phone without a case on. I just can't see it taking off anyhow, don't see that's whatwhat the majority of people want from a phone.
And the metal premium body looks pain ugly imo. May have well stuck with plastic/leather.
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Well, I'd be the first to get a module for a bigger battery. And you can't see people using it? Yeah I mean, it's that much better that we basically get clone after clone of the S6 or 6S that are just sealed off and "premium". LG is literally the only company that is actually trying to innovate stuff and do something different. I watched the S7 conference and it was like watching any Apple press conference ever. A lot of fancy words with a lot of bull**** behind it. As for the case, I've had an iPhone 4, iPhone 5, G3 and now a G4 and I have yet to put a case on any of my phones. And no, they don't look like they've been trough hell and back.
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Sure, they should've used 5.5" screen, but that raises one important question: How big do you think the G5 would be if they used 5.5"? I look at it this way, G2 had 5.2" and one of the best screen-to-body ratios ever. Now the G5 has 5.3" screen while at the same time being taller than the G4 and having a smaller battery... Not impressed at all . They are fishing in the dark, experimenting too much and instead of focusing on the important stuff (soc, screen, camera, battery, design), they introduce some gimmicky "friends" whom practically nobody will use as they will probbably cost 50% of the price of G5. I'm a bit dissapointed...
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That is true, the screen to body ratio just gets worse. And how didn't they focus on the important stuff? You have a brighter screen, the 820 SOC, a better camera (or at least equivalent to the V10/G4), a premium metal design (looks nice to me). The only thing that sucks is the smaller battery, but then again, maybe the 820 will compensate for it with better efficiency? Who knows, we'll see.
Feature wise it's alright. No worse than my current G4 (didn't use QSlide or, really, any of the LG additions), but the smaller screen, lack of an app drawer (which, I know, can be compensated for with a 3rd party launcher; then again I would've wanted to give the stock launcher a go), and, most of all, a hideous design are the reasons why I would not get the G5 (moreover, I own the G4 for just under five months). Wonder what they come up with next, but if I had to make the switch now, it most likely would not be a G5.
Small battery, no back buttons, small screen, hideous bulge at the back, friends without benefits , nice idea with modular build but afraid to see "my modular hole entry display broken" like comments......
No go for me. Waiting for next year. Except the SD 820 nothing worth spending so much money.
We have to add a bigger space and pay for Bang & Olufsen module to have a good quality sound ? We don't have to do this with other devices like Meizu or HTC or others devices, Stoopid LG...
G2 and g3 was small diference and no need to upgrade from g2 to g3, g2 to g4 yes, same as g4 to g5 - NO g4 to g6 - yes , simple
I'm done with LG after the G4 because of its issues, mostly the bootloop.
If I wasn't, LG lost me at a smaller screen, smaller battery, and removing the buttons from the back.
Everything was going great until I realized that I need to turn off the phone, remove the battery and turn it on again if I want to listen to music using a 3.5mm headset.
Not that pretty (camera protrusion?), but a metal body is nice.
Size - not a big deal to me, as I use both the G4 and V10 and don't seem to have a preference in terms of size
Camera - interesting having two rear cameras, thou I doubt I would care. The dual fronts on the V10 are actually somewhat useful (group vs single selfies)
No volume button on the back, that I don't like so much
Module addons? Another meh for me, personally. Replaceable battery is good.
UI? meh. I use google now anyhoo. the G4 and V10's uis are ok, though.
I'd take one if it were free, maybe. Dunno If I would upgrade to one, though.
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Everything was going great until I realized that I need to turn off the phone, remove the battery and turn it on again if I want to listen to music using a 3.5mm headset.
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What?
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What?
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My mistake, for a moment, I thought that the top-mounted 3.5mm jack was just the IR blaster.
Sell me on the device! I currently have the S7E and its due for an upgrade and looking to pick up the V20 primarily for its video and audio awesomeness. Is it worth doing this upgrade? Part of me thinks its not really a good idea being they are pretty even spec wise (what I can see). So for people that use the phone camera alot is it worth upgrading to?
My wife has S7E. I came from Note 7. Felt like S7E was a downgrade from Note 7.
I've been thrilled with the V20 overall. I'm not a big camera person - so can't give much input there. But from an overall experience I'd definitely recommend it.
Absolutely worth the shift. Move on with V20 without any doubt.
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Some people will tell you "don't because the photos will come up with an oil painting effect " however, i only see that when i zoom the photo to the maximum and not in all the photos i get to see it. But i love how this phone take pictures ans videos. And also how it sounds. If you happen to have a friend with a V20, ask him to lend it to you for a couple of minutes and give it a try. In my opinion, it is worth the $820 - 200 = 600. 600 - 149 = 451. This if you got all the promotions ?
I actually switched from a S7 Edge to the V20, and I love it. The V20 is so much faster, and I think the second display implementation is much better than the edge display (although I kinda miss AOD and the Amoled but it's not a huge loss).
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I actually switched from a S7 Edge to the V20, and I love it. The V20 is so much faster, and I think the second display implementation is much better than the edge display (although I kinda miss AOD and the Amoled but it's not a huge loss).
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I agree w 2nd display vs edge. Never used edge. If i had gone to S7, might have gone non-edge variety. Use 2nd screen all the time on V20.
Never used always on display on Note 7 - 2nd screen is much better implementation for the same info
Also thought id miss LED - haven't one bit.
Thought the finger print sensor on back was awkward at first. But with V20 just have to put finger there, not push button to activate like Note 7 - it has worked well.
Lack of physical buttons - real ones feel strange now lol.
Thought i would miss SPen - don't - EXCEPT the ability to make gifs with it.
Several other new features too that have enhanced my opinion of V20 as not only a replacement of Note 7, but an upgrade.
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I agree w 2nd display vs edge. Never used edge. If i had gone to S7, might have gone non-edge variety. Use 2nd screen all the time on V20.
Never used always on display on Note 7 - 2nd screen is much better implementation for the same info
Also thought id miss LED - haven't one bit.
Thought the finger print sensor on back was awkward at first. But with V20 just have to put finger there, not push button to activate like Note 7 - it has worked well.
Lack of physical buttons - real ones feel strange now lol.
Thought i would miss SPen - don't - EXCEPT the ability to make gifs with it.
Several other new features too that have enhanced my opinion of V20 as not only a replacement of Note 7, but an upgrade.
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The one downside with 2nd screen is, being LCD, I have to turn it off at night because there's a good amount of light leaking. Not a huge issue, at least LG include the feature to put it on a timer.
I love the position of the fingerprint sensor, it's so much better than being on the front. With front scanners, you have to bend your thumb terribly to reach the scanner when holding the phone with 1 hand. With the back sensor you can practically rest your finger on the sensor. And the Tap-On unlock code is such a cool feature for when you can't reach the back of the device. The 1 thing I hate though is the power button. I love how fast the device unlocks but sometimes I actually want to see the lock screen.
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The one downside with 2nd screen is, being LCD, I have to turn it off at night because there's a good amount of light leaking. Not a huge issue, at least LG include the feature to put it on a timer.
I love the position of the fingerprint sensor, it's so much better than being on the front. With front scanners, you have to bend your thumb terribly to reach the scanner when holding the phone with 1 hand. With the back sensor you can practically rest your finger on the sensor. And the Tap-On unlock code is such a cool feature for when you can't reach the back of the device. The 1 thing I hate though is the power button. I love how fast the device unlocks but sometimes I actually want to see the lock screen.
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Ive never really noticed the light leaking (i prob will now, thanks lol)
I used tap on/pin personally when finger print is not convenient. But that's rare. I cant remember the last time i actually pressed the power button.
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Ive never really noticed the light leaking (i prob will now, thanks lol)
I used tap on/pin personally when finger print is not convenient. But that's rare. I cant remember the last time i actually pressed the power button.
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Haha sorry it really isn't that bad, just noticeable after using AOD on S7E
That's fair, I guess it's just nice to have the option. Maybe Android will do away with the lock screen in a few years anyway lol
Honestly I would say wait until the G6 is released or the Galaxy S8 is released. Then you can make your decision. Sure they are a couple of months out, but those phones more than likely could and probably will be a better upgrade than the V20. But then again, if you're wanting a phone that you can for sure root and have an unlocked bootloader then definitely make sure you pick one of these guys up soon.
Look. I came from a N7 to the V20. I actually quite prefer the asthetics and the AMOLED display of the N7. However, when I decided to make the switch, I knew what I was going for in the device. I wanted a multitude of features that the V20 had that the N7 lacked. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I actually wanted the V20 more than the N7, so it felt like an upgrade to me. If you are looking to be talked into a device, it isn't the right one for you. I say hold off until end of Feb middle March when they announce the S8 line and see what that brings. If nothing exciting is projected, then you still have the V20 (or even the G6) to upgrade to.
Love the v20 of you like crisp clear audio its a must buy.
I drive truck so i use it for music etc 12 hours a day.
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Well, I came from the short-lived Galaxy Note 7.
Strictly camera wise, I think the S7/N7 camera is a clear winner, especially in low light. But the wide angle lens for the V20 is incredibly useful. Just be careful with the lens, it's fragile.
But everything else about the V20 is terrific. Multi tasking with Nougat is brilliant. It's speedy, with lots of RAM. Battery life is good, removable and supports Quick Charge. At least for my variant, it supports Cat. 12 LTE, so it's future proof. And VoLTE, which means call quality is very clear.
Overall, I'm very satisfied with this phone. It's underrated IMO.
My only disappointment is it doesn't support 3G video calls. But I've read that some US variants support this.
My most recent phones have been the Galaxy S7e, Note 7, back to the S7e, 2nd Note 7, and now the V20. I went with the V20 because it had decent specs and I'd already done the S7e twice. If you like the camera in the S7 , you'll be disappointed with the one in the V20. I'd put the picture quality about equivalent with what I got from the Note 4. Personally I will probably get the S8 in April. I miss too many things from the Samsung line like the AMOLED screen, Samsung Pay, water proofing, wireless charging, and camera quality. I also like the edge screen better than the second LCD. I find the icons on the second LCD too high up to easily hit one handed. A couple things I have liked on the V20 are the rear fingerprint reader and the metal back.
Oh that I agree. The second screen on the top is too high, due to the large screen. So I don't really use it much.
I'm looking forward to the S8. Hopefully there is a model without the Edge display. I don't really need that.
V20 is a great phone feature wise, looks much better than the S7E (in my oppinion of course), audio output is great, software is decent, but battery life is a big letdown. Choose it only if you don't care about the battery life.
Thanks for all the reply's! I think I'm gonna go with the LG V20 switch it up. Is the Version version rootable?
Well it looks like many people answered your question,, myself i had the S7E for two weeks, before seeing that there was not a lot of development for the phone. That's why i switched.
i actually came from a note 7 as well. Had a choice between a v20 or a s7e.
I figured the s7e was a downgrade so i went with the v20.
my thoughts:
1. Note 7 camera is way better. At auto, you practically end up with great pictures almost every time. Many people will tell you here the v20 camera is awesome when it's in manual, but I don't have time to set the settings first before taking a shot. Taking pictures of moving objects such as people walking will end up with blurred people even in bright light. Manual settings at a faster shutter speed will fix that of course.
2. The second screen is useful when off when I want to turn on the flash light. But that's about the only use I have for it lol. I still end up using nav button to switch apps...habits die hard.
3. Battery life is good for both phones.
4. Screen of Note 7 is still better.
5. I think Note 7 to v20 wasn't an upgrade. It was a little downgrade, but it was newer than the s7e...so I guess I really didn't have a choice. It was a Note 4 to Note 7 anyways...so still an upgrade from that.
6. Do I think you should switch from an s7e to a v20....right now? no. Last year, probably a yes...but now that new phones are around the corner, I suggest you wait for those.
Look at the Mate 9 it's a great phone with insane battery and the speed of the software is unmatched. I also have a v20
Hey guys,
why choose a P10 over a G6 or the Samsung ? What benefits do you get of the P10 ? No water resistant.... small display.....
EMUI and the camera. For a photographer (instagram.com/austriker) huawei has put a ton of slick UI and camera features in the phone. I can't wait to get one.
Also I am sick of Samsung, I need a pause.....
Had Samsung phones before, they're good but bloated and there's nothing striking about the new one.
Read/watched reviews of both the G6 and the P10 Plus, G6 is more expensive for little gain. The 0.2" diagonal difference is not something you're going to notice in use, wireless charging is a nice idea but not a deal breaker. Going by the reviews LG's camera is not so good and it has a smaller battery.
P10P has stereo speakers and Corning Gorilla glass 5 as opposed to 3 on the LG (no idea if that's better or not)
I am dumping my awful LG G5 (GPS problems fixed then screen ghosting - had enough!) for the P10 Plus - arrives this Wednesday... can't wait!
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Had Samsung phones before, they're good but bloated and there's nothing striking about the new one.
Read/watched reviews of both the G6 and the P10 Plus, G6 is more expensive for little gain. The 0.2" diagonal difference is not something you're going to notice in use, wireless charging is a nice idea but not a deal breaker. Going by the reviews LG's camera is not so good and it has a smaller battery.
P10P has stereo speakers and Corning Gorilla glass 5 as opposed to 3 on the LG (no idea if that's better or not)
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My girlfriend has had Samsung and now has the p10 plus. Samsung was bloated yes. But you should see the p10+ it has so much crap on it and most of the apps are duped but by different Devs. I was happy that i could disable/uninstall most of it though
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My girlfriend has had Samsung and now has the p10 plus. Samsung was bloated yes. But you should see the p10+ it has so much crap on it and most of the apps are duped but by different Devs. I was happy that i could disable/uninstall most of it though
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That's good to hear, mine doesn't arrive till next week so I have that to look forward to.
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i buy p10 plus today, so i waiting.
Samsung? sick of it! LG phones are good but the battery life sucks.
I changed to P10+ because of its EMUI, the beautiful 2K mon, the feel in my hand and the camera.
I hate the curved edges - I like my screen flat all the way across. Also, I wanted to try something with color (other than black, white, blue, or silver) and the only phone with options is apple. Not a big IPhone fan. I know the p10 is a little reminiscent, but at least there's an option to get the app drawer back!
I have the LG G4 and was considering the upgrade to G6. Verizon customer.
1. How do the cameras compare? The rear is supposed to be better by all accounts. Front camera is 5 MP on G6 and 8 MP on G4, is this a downgrade in photo quality? Perhaps not since MP is not everything.
2. How does the battery life compare?
3. Is a case important on G6? Seems necessary with all that glass. G4 was excellent for handling falls due to leather or plastic back and slight curve in screen.
Downsides are loss of IR blaster and no more removable battery. Any other losses upgrading G4 to G6?
One more thing, the Galaxy S8 can stretch youtube videos to fullscreen but I get the impression the G6 does not have this ability, is that correct?
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I have the LG G4 and was considering the upgrade to G6. Verizon customer.
1. How do the cameras compare? The rear is supposed to be better by all accounts. Front camera is 5 MP on G6 and 8 MP on G4, is this a downgrade in photo quality? Perhaps not since MP is not everything.
2. How does the battery life compare?
3. Is a case important on G6? Seems necessary with all that glass. G4 was excellent for handling falls due to leather or plastic back and slight curve in screen.
Downsides are loss of IR blaster and no more removable battery. Any other losses upgrading G4 to G6?
One more thing, the Galaxy S8 can stretch youtube videos to fullscreen but I get the impression the G6 does not have this ability, is that correct?
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I upgraded from a G3 to a G6 on Sprint. I haven't had it long enough to answer all your questions, but I can offer a little input.
The battery life is significantly better. Obviously, there is a lot of degradation given the G3 is several years old, but I went out and bought a new G3 battery a year ago. The G6 gets me through a whole day easy. I do use an Android Wear watch to triage notifications, so I have a less than average screen time on the phone, but I'll go running using the phone's GPS in the morning or do an hour of lifting with the screen on the whole time inputting into an exercise app, etc. The fast charge on the G6 is amazing. It is multiples faster charging than the G3. I also bought a wireless charger, which is great to set on my desk at work.
I think a case is important. The glass back is gorgeous, but I've only seen it for about 10 seconds once while I held it 6 inches over a plush carpet to install the case. I dunno. I put on a Spigen carbon case, and it does not add much bulk to the phone. I had a Spigen on my G3 for three years and it looked like it went through a war. The G3 looks pristine.
Lack of IR blaster wasn't a problem for me because I just took my old G3 and put it in the TV room to use as a remote. The only issue I see with the non-removable battery is getting a few years down the road when its capacity is less.
I don't use YouTube much at all. I did just now pop it open and fired up a video, and can confirm it did not stretch to full screen. I thought I read somewhere that Google was going to work on this on the software end as they're expecting more 16:9 phones to come along. I have no idea what the S8 does.
I haven't tested out the camera much. Honestly, I was amazed at the high quality of the G3 camera and would be happy if the G6 was as good. I take videos of our kid's wrestling matches and share some of the videos with other parents when they can't be there to watch their kids. I have gotten a lot of remarks about how fantastic my phone's videos are (the G3, that is) from people that have iPhone 6's and 7's. Still photos were awesome from the G3, and I should drag my butt out and try out the G6's new wide view.
I can't think of any other downsides. I do like the form factor of the G6 a lot more than the G3. I didn't mind the G3 that much, but the G6 is a lot narrower. It feels much more comfortable in the hand than the G3. It's taller, but that doesn't seem to be much of an issue for me. Fingerprint scanner on the G6 is great. Unlocks the phone instantly. It was a big adjustment to get used to volume buttons on the back of the G3, and now it's a big adjustment to get used to the "normal" side buttons of the G6. The G6 doesn't seem crazy faster than the G3 and the screen resolution is the same. The G6 does look a little sharper and clearer. My Sprint G6 is supposed to have this awesome new HPUE that increases speeds inside buildings, but I haven't noticed much of a difference in LTE speeds. Maybe that will come.
My G3 was stuck on Marshmallow, and the G6 comes with Nougat and Google Assistant out of the box. I haven't gotten into any good conversations with Assistant yet.
Currently on S7Edge but really interested in the s8, i tried it in the store just for a few moments but couldnt really compare how it feels in the hand because all the phones at T mobile are attached with security clamp wires.
So for people who went from s7 edge to S8, how is the feel in the hand, it is narrower so i guess it feels smaller, but it is taller. is it hard to reach up top with one hand?
also how is media consumption (youtube,netflix,hboGo, etc) on this aspect ratio compared to s7? because it is narrower and taller you will have black bars on the sides. It is something i deal with at my desktop computer because I have ultrawide monitor so when i watch movies or youtube i have black bars on the sides. I have come to deal with it though. Does it bother you with the s8? also have you had trouble finding slim cases ad good screen protectors? it was always tough for me with s7 edge
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Currently on S7Edge but really interested in the s8, i tried it in the store just for a few moments but couldnt really compare how it feels in the hand because all the phones at T mobile are attached with security clamp wires.
So for people who went from s7 edge to S8, how is the feel in the hand, it is narrower so i guess it feels smaller, but it is taller. is it hard to reach up top with one hand?
also how is media consumption (youtube,netflix,hboGo, etc) on this aspect ratio compared to s7? because it is narrower and taller you will have black bars on the sides. It is something i deal with at my desktop computer because I have ultrawide monitor so when i watch movies or youtube i have black bars on the sides. I have come to deal with it though. Does it bother you with the s8? also have you had trouble finding slim cases ad good screen protectors? it was always tough for me with s7 edge
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1) It feels fantastic! I can't tell you how much I like holding S8 vs other phone(unless phone is small) I bought case and even with case it is far more manageable than other big boys. It maybe slightly taller, but it doesn't bother me at all, as the width was the main issue with others.
2) Most apps can use full screen and YouTube for example isn't a problem. There is a button to change the screen width. When you start playing videos, a lot of times it adopts to the screen size.
3) Spigen Liquid Armor case on Amazon, very slim and doesn't add bulk and still holding and typing with one hand is great(I don't have big hands)
4) I like matter screen protectors, which I purchased on Amazon for 8.99 (2 pack) case friendly protector.
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1) It feels fantastic! I can't tell you how much I like holding S8 vs other phone(unless phone is small) I bought case and even with case it is far more manageable than other big boys. It maybe slightly taller, but it doesn't bother me at all, as the width was the main issue with others.
2) Most apps can use full screen and YouTube for example isn't a problem. There is a button to change the screen width. When you start playing videos, a lot of times it adopts to the screen size.
3) Spigen Liquid Armor case on Amazon, very slim and doesn't add bulk and still holding and typing with one hand is great(I don't have big hands)
4) I like matter screen protectors, which I purchased on Amazon for 8.99 (2 pack) case friendly protector.
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thank you, yes the width is what makes me sometimes switch for a few days from my s7edge to my iphone 7.
re: the video stretch thing, so does it stretch the video or simply crop/cut off parts to make it fit
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thank you, yes the width is what makes me sometimes switch for a few days from my s7edge to my iphone 7.
re: the video stretch thing, so does it stretch the video or simply crop/cut off parts to make it fit
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It may crop the sides slightly. Here are 2 screen shots, fit to screen and crop to fit
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The + is really cool but ideally I would rather have something slightly smaller than the s7edge but bigger than my iPhone 7 4.7 inch so the S8 seems right
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Yeah wow that's not bad at all
Can anyone who made the change from an S7 Edge to the S8 comment on the battery life difference?
The battery life on this blows my S7E away! Smaller battery but whatever they did to help the life is great!
Also, the curve on these isn't as aggressive as the S7E so it doesn't feel as narrow and hard to hold. I have no issues reaching anything on screen and the way i hold it my finger rests perfectly on the sensor on the back to unlock it or sign into apps!
I haven't had any problem finding a case that i like either.