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My brother bought a Nexus 5 and he doesn´t like it. He said if I want we can change (my note 2 for his Nexus 5) and despite the bovious prices difference what you do in my place? I am very satisfied with my Samsung and will put a new rom to give a extra live (it has official 4.4.2).
Thanks and sorry for my bad english
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My brother bought a Nexus 5 and he doesn´t like it. He said if I want we can change (my note 2 for his Nexus 5) and despite the bovious prices difference what you do in my place? I am very satisfied with my Samsung and will put a new rom to give a extra live (it has official 4.4.2).
Thanks and sorry for my bad english
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If you can compromise with battery life and screen size then go for it. Snapdragon 800 will blow your mind. Camera is also not that great in N5 but it'll do the job just right.
I say go for it.
I don't know if that is a good idea, I'd keep the Note. You can't really compare these 2 devices in terms of Performance. N5 runs stock, N2 runs TouchWiz. Stock Android is and will always be buttery smooth. TouchWiz can also be quite smooth and that stuff but yeah, it is a skin of Android which might be not so smooth and fast all the time but with KitKat, it's pretty fast.
N5 has a really small battery and the Note 2s battery blows the N5 out of the way. N5s display is LCD and the N2 has a SAMOLED Display but lower PPI but anyways, think twice, seriously. I had the Nexus 4 for 2 months and I missed my Note 2 so much, the Nexus 4 was really crap compared to the Note.
Just my 2 cents.
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Never ever, cause Nexus may be fast, smooth and other pleasant things, but in fact and from my point of view: BORING
You can have pure Android experience on Note 2 too (AOSP-roms), but you'll never feel the flexibility of having S5, Note 3 features or even Note 2 S-Pen on a Nexus.
If someone would donate me a Nexus I would sell it to even get a second N2.
Thanx for the answers; it´s really hard to decide and the phones can´t be compared. The only way to both be satisfied that I can think now is, I change with him, sell the nexus and buy a note 3... Here in Souht America the prices are very different (almost twice the price for a nexus 5 new to one used N2).
Ok i own a galaxy nexus right now, about nexus devices being boring is a fact they are, but when that happens u just swap your rom, this week i will have my note 2 back, however i will not sell galaxy nexus for now
The advantages
galaxy nexus
always updated,
butter smooth,
a lot of customization,
The disadvantages
no memory card,
recovery problems, cause of internal storage(once i ve done a full wipe and i had no rom on it, a big mess)
note 2
big screen (major advantage)
battery
sdcard
disadvantages
serious software problems(SDS)
my final veredict is, if you are a flashoolic and u just love custom roms, go for a nexus(of course you will have to say goodbye to battery and screen) if u just dont like to flash roms that much and u seek more for watch moovies or play hd games stick with the note,
keep also in mind that u can sell the nexus and buy a note 3 with some more money
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big screen (major advantage)
battery
sdcard
disadvantages
serious software problems(SDS)
my final veredict is, if you are a flashoolic and u just love custom roms, go for a nexus(of course you will have to say goodbye to battery and screen) if u just dont like to flash roms that much and u seek more for watch moovies or play hd games stick with the note,
keep also in mind that u can sell the nexus and buy a note 3 with some more money
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Kindly disagreed:
SDS is mostly a myth and overrated (whenever phone freezes, people start crying about SDS)
I can port nearly every device on Note 2 but no Touchwiz rom on a nexus (just take a look around Dev forum and my signature).
So, for flashoholics like me there is only Note. :angel:
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Kindly disagreed:
SDS is mostly a myth and overrated (whenever phone freezes, people start crying about SDS)
I can port nearly every device on Note 2 but no Touchwiz rom on a nexus (just take a look around Dev forum and my signature).
So, for flashoholics like me there is only Note. :angel:
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Respectfully disagreed,
I am a regular follower of XDA and some sites and flash many things just even to try sometimes. I also get bored easily with regular software and like to try new ways of using the phone.
If you like to use Note 2 "as is" then it is still a great phone (even greater than some newer phones). However trying new things with that phone is not about discovering what's new on the developers' world, instead it is mostly about "trying a new cure"..
I recently updated my Note 2 to 4.4.2 and then broke my warranty out of curiosity. TW KitKat is really good for people who are looking for a good phone. But then I went for Paranoid Android. The next thing I was looking for to flash was a camera cure because of the problematic camera. After that got solved, now my WiFi is not turning on without a restart and there is not even one person who mentions it on the main topic (I will, but...). In addition to that there is very low volume problem of the sound recording (whether it be a video or just voice) and there is no solution to this either.
I had bought a Nexus 4 and given my Note 2 to my sister. After 5 months she wanted my Nexus and offered my Note 2 back. I couldn't say no cause she really wanted it. Now I have two data coming from two different persons, one is a flashocolic and the other is just a user who likes iPhones etc. The one thing in common is that they both prefer the Nexus.
Because there is really a solution to everything on the Nexus world, software-wise. But here, on Note 2's world, it's like yesterday that the devs were reprehending people with complaints by saying "do it yourself if you can!!!" out of the anger to Samsung not sharing sources.
There is solution to Nexus battery problems too (you could call that a problem only after a Note). Just buy a power bank and you'll get even more battery time than a Note.
On the camera wise, Note 2 is really good. I believe that is the only thing without a solution for a Nexus device. A Nexus sometimes can match with Note 2's camera but never outdo it.
For every other thing you want or you might wanna have in the future, a Nexus is a better and more open possibility..
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Androidwizzard said:
Kindly disagreed:
SDS is mostly a myth and overrated (whenever phone freezes, people start crying about SDS)
I can port nearly every device on Note 2 but no Touchwiz rom on a nexus (just take a look around Dev forum and my signature).
So, for flashoholics like me there is only Note. :angel:
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Can i ask you how many notes2 have u had?
well i had 2 and both died in the night, i couldnt do nothing, `
so please dont tell me that sds doesn't exist, "i had nightmeers about it ahah"
now im getting my note 2 after a Motherboard replacement.
and whats this and this
I do not want to convince anybody. It is only my point of view at the beginning of developing own roms and the possibilities with this ancient device are still outstanding. Certainly better is the Note 3 and the upcoming Note 4.
My dream is Xperia Z2 on Note 2 with S-Pen features and hopefully soon...... :fingers-crossed:
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Can i ask you how many notes2 have u had?
well i had 2 and both died in the night, i couldnt do nothing, `
so please dont tell me that sds doesn't exist, "i had nightmeers about it ahah"
now im getting my note 2 after a Motherboard replacement.
and whats this and this
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I am supporting on several forums and in many languages and I have seen SDS in realty.
BUT and that is also true: If thousand users ask, if they maybe have SDS cause device seems to die, always freezes, bootloops aso. there is not even one who really suffers from that issue.
And at last your links to Sammy roms on Nexus: You can't be serious to compare that kind of stuff with the abilities of S-Pen.
Kind regards
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I do not want to convince anybody. It is only my point of view at the beginning of developing own roms and the possibilities with this ancient device are still outstanding. Certainly better is the Note 3 and the upcoming Note 4.
My dream is Xperia Z2 on Note 2 with S-Pen features and hopefully soon...... :fingers-crossed:
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I am supporting on several forums and in many languages and I have seen SDS in realty.
BUT and that is also true: If thousand users ask, if they maybe have SDS cause device seems to die, always freezes, bootloops aso. there is not even one who really suffers from that issue.
And at last your links to Sammy roms on Nexus: You can't be serious to compare that kind of stuff with the abilities of S-Pen.
Kind regards
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REALLY!?!?
THIS IS A DEVICE FROM 2011 with these specs
can u tell me what was the first device receiving a port on htc sense 6?
well let's see if note 2 gets first android L than galaxy nexus?
i'm not triyng to convince anybody either, i'm just seiing things as they are, and note 1,2 and 3 are devices with remarcable specs on hardware, but in therms of updates and customization u know who rules.
I have my N2 for about a year and half, and never ever been in trouble with it: good battery life, specs and apps, but to tell the truth I use the s-pen just a few days... It´s like new in this moment as I recently installed the DN3 (awesome rom).
Please, who has the Nexus 5, what is the estimated time of battery (use my N2 without bluetooth disbled only and supports a entire day) and what can be done to enhance it?
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REALLY!?!?
THIS IS A DEVICE FROM 2011 with these specs
can u tell me what was the first device receiving a port on htc sense 6?
well let's see if note 2 gets first android L than galaxy nexus?
i'm not triyng to convince anybody either, i'm just seiing things as they are, and note 1,2 and 3 are devices with remarcable specs on hardware, but in therms of updates and customization u know who rules.
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No doubt about that last statement :good:
Note 2 will never get Android L. for sure, BUT developers will port it to N2 anyway and anyhow in the near future :highfive:
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No doubt about that last statement :good:
Note 2 will never get Android L. for sure, BUT developers will port it to N2 anyway and anyhow in the near future :highfive:
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lets hope so, i will get mine this week :angel:
That´s right, the community of N2 is strong and with no doubt we will have the Android L... Well, let´s study about this negociation N2 x N5...
I guess I am losing some arguements here..
For those who believe S Pen is on top of the "advantages list", that 1024 different pressure senser is only functioning for some of the Samsung built-in apps and an all called Papyrus (as far as I know). Besides, as a person who losev to draw/sketch (and take notes with hand writing) I have now 2 options; a Nexus 7 with bigger screen and a good touch-pen (which can be bouth seperately from anywhere) or my Note 2 with a special pen but also with a smaller screen. I ca nassure you, bigger screen has the advantage here so IF you are into professioanal drawing with all the bells and whisles of that pen either buy a pen and touch-mat set for your laptop or get a Note 10.1. Note 2 (or any 5.x " sized place ) is only suitable for small sketches and hand writing notes which gives nothing to the pressure differentiation. So, basicly it's a feature and it's there. Of course I am note taking it as an disadvantage, but it's not a choice changer.
For those who picks the battery life as a winner; that is definetely true. If you want all your time in one housing any Note phone is a way to go. But if we are calculating the total volume, than a regular phone with an external battery or powerbank would be almost same.
For those who enjoy the big screen and out ir on top of the list; now that's unique. however it's hard to write with one hand -say, on the bus- no matter how big your hands are. And when you are confortable to use the dervice in any way you like, only than the screen size comes as an advantage. But -like in the pen situation- if yo reallty want a bigger screen, this is just a big phone, not a tablet.
One more thing with the screen, it's one of the best screens Samsung has ever made. But today every brand is giving bigger screens to their devices and the colors are much better on most of other phones. Please don't tell me AMOLED is the future with it's super blacks of infinite contrasts etc. Any Xperia screen, or any of he last 2 Nexuses have better screens and much more accurate color reproduction. Even though Samsung has given us 4 scenerios to choose, there is no "true" color choice there. And there is no true whites on that screen. So, black is just one color (which Samsung also fails to give us, look carefully and most of you'll notice that blacks are not same everywhere on the screen) to brag, but all the other colors are unrealistic.
For those who wants to give the credit to the Wolfson sound chip, now that's correct Nothing to say here. Quallcomm is just getting warmt with their new SoCs on the music busniess and we all know HTC's afforts are mostly for advertising.
And also the camera, maybe the best of it's time. Sadly it is bought from Sony but all the camera software and HAL is completely re-written by Samsung and not shared to the public. So any AOSP ROM lovers has to deal with problems on the camera (I believe, the devs that made to this far created a miracle, not thanks to SAmsung of course)
And about ROM porting; IF TouchWiz is so good why need for porting frıom other ROMs? AOSP is so "empty" for some people so they port other ROMs to Nexus phones or they create AOSP for other phones so they can be clean and open. But why port Xperie and Sense ROMs to a TouchWiz based and un-shared device? I guess deep down we all know, no matter how much goodness it contains inside, TouchWiz will make everyone bored and feel unprofessional?
And the Samsung build quality, I wish there was a way to ignore this.
Please don't misunderstand me. I love my Note 2. It would be an incredebly better and longer lifed device if Samsung shared more about it. But I don't see ant of its features as unique and irreplacable. And Nexus 5 has a bigger family with an easier life for an average XDA follower (or for just a curious person)
Probably will change the devices until wednesday and return to post my impressions. As my brother wish a lot since I buy the N2 and the difference in prices here I can´t say no. In last scenary I´ll sell or change the N5 for another phablet... thanks to everyone who asked and post comments.
I'll take N5 if I were you because I prefer stock!:good:
take the N5, sell it, buy another N2, keep the profit.
dude i have both nexus 5 and note 2(both active usage) with kitkat
FOR ME ,i love the nexus 5
nexus 5 is more compact,light ,performance beast,nice and fast ui,quick updates,high res screen without oversaturated tones,nice camera(with hdr+)
BUT
if battery life is really what you need then go for note2 ..i get about 22hrs-23hrs of usage with a bit less than 3hrs screen ontime with nexus 5
with note 2 i get just a bit less than 2 days with the same usage
but nexus 5 has heating issues
note 2 has expandable memory which might be a big deal for some people(me),and much louder speaker,big screen size
...go with n5 but if u need battery,expandable storage,and s-pen..and lag then go for note2
I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
I am still on a plan that includes discounted upgrades, and it it due about the time the Note 4 comes out. I am flip flopping. I would upgrade since I am due, but I don't like at all that the boot loader is locked. If I wanted that, I would get a crApple. I am waiting to see if the carrier is going to put out the cheap quad processor or 8 processor model (I can guess they will go cheap). I don't want to go with an international model and loose LTE just to get the unlocked boot loader. But neither do I want to deal with all the Crapulant carrier bloat either.
It looks like a no brainer to me, but it helps that my Note 2 is losing it's marbles. The extra memory and CPU horsepower alone is worth it. I'm stuck using an old S3 while I wait for the release.
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It just depend on you, it is your money and your necesities.
rcobourn said:
It looks like a no brainer to me, but it helps that my Note 2 is losing it's marbles. The extra memory and CPU horsepower alone is worth it. I'm stuck using an old S3 while I wait for the release.
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I was thinking it was a not brainer until I saw the Note 3 for $99 (new) on Amazon.
S5 - is also $99, but it's only 16gb so that is a deal breaker for me.
If the Note 4 is $299 is the phone $200 better than the Note 3?
Is it $249 better than the LG G3?
Is it $249 better than the HTC M8?
I love the stylus, but I can't decide if an awesome style plus, the 805 processor, Ultra power saving mode and (amoled vs lcd) is worth $249 more?
I've been eligible for an upgrade since June and I waited for the Note 4 announcement and I'm a little disappointed.
I really want to know more about the software: Did they improve touchwiz? Will there be new features with the old Samsung Gear (Fixes to S Health?
I have a note 3 and a note 2..going from the note 2 to 3 was a huge improvement so yes going from 2 to 4 would be a massive jump. I'd do it for sure.
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I was thinking it was a not brainer until I saw the Note 3 for $99 (new) on Amazon.
S5 - is also $99, but it's only 16gb so that is a deal breaker for me.
If the Note 4 is $299 is the phone $200 better than the Note 3?
Is it $249 better than the LG G3?
Is it $249 better than the HTC M8?
I love the stylus, but I can't decide if an awesome style plus, the 805 processor, Ultra power saving mode and (amoled vs lcd) is worth $249 more?
I've been eligible for an upgrade since June and I waited for the Note 4 announcement and I'm a little disappointed.
I really want to know more about the software: Did they improve touchwiz? Will there be new features with the old Samsung Gear (Fixes to S Health?
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The Note 4 also has the best display ever made on a smartphone: http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note4_ShootOut_1.htm
Brighter, more accurate, sharper, less energy use. That $249 difference pays for the best tech available.
I have the note 2 since release day. I love it, but knowing the 4 is coming soon, I may as well grab one. I know some people are not Samsung fans, but I love how fast it is compared to apple. To be honest, I don't really use the stylus that much, but I love the screen size. I'm definitely gonna get it for sure. The xda community always amazes me on what they can do.
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Dave2582 said:
I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
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maybe for someone not worth to upgrading from Note3 to Note4
but from Note2 >> u will have all features of Note3 (optimized and tweaked features) + more features...
so it will be good idea to do this...
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I think it's a no-brainer, and I'm making the jump.
Consider note 3 users as beta testers for note 4... I guess being worth it is relative. I'm on note 2 and I don't feel as if I NEED to upgrade but I guess it would be nice to have a new toy to play with until the industry tells me I'm outdated again.
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I know a lot of people on here are saying that it isn't much of an improvement from 3 to 4. What about going from 2 to 4? Would it be worth it, or should I hold out?
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The problem with the question is not is there an upgrade. It's there is a subjective value placed on the "upgrade." On top of it, we're being asked to know how to place a value on subject value you would have on top of it, like we would have the same wants and needs as you. Basically, you're asking a question that really can't be answered. No offense meant.
Obviously, there are upgrades to the phone from the Note 2 or 3. The Note 2 will have increased changes as compared to the Note 3. I think the hardware is the most objective. You just have to ask your yourself, are the cpu, ram, screen (resolution and size), and so forth increases useful, wanted or needed for how you use your mobile device. You may want to include available accessories, and not just the ones by Samsung, too.
Software wise, this is more difficult because this is dependent on how you use your device. If you don't use the Spen, than the Spen software changes are meaningless. If you use third-party software for everything, such as email, office tools, then the applications that come with the device may be meaningless too; you'll also have to considered if the application you do use, are they compatible.
Except for a few applications, the phone is just going to run faster and smoother. It just has more raw power. The exceptions are going to be more about optimizations with the hardware or OS version.
Are you someone who prefers to root their phone, will it be rootable. If you get it right away, can you wait till a root exploit has been found. Also consider if you want it to be deknoxed or have the Knox trigger tripped or not; you may need to wait longer for a solution not to trigger it.
Obviously, you can always wait. And it's a good option if the phone meets your needs and wants. Getting a new phone is an expense. But maybe getting a new phone may mean you have to go onto a different plan that may be more expensive. Then again, what are you really hoping to gain by waiting for the next version? Maybe waiting, is more about till few things you need are found. I waited on the Note 2 till root and WiFi tether had been found for the particular variant.
In my opinion, the Note 2 is a perfectly fine phone. It's only started to show some age, but not very often. It's mainly on some games where you want to have the highest settings turned on. I haven't seen issues with other applications being as power/resource hungry. If you into hacker/mod side of the phone, I would guess you'll see a lot of developers abandon their Note 2 projects as they more onto new devices, such as the Note 4, and I would expect to see a significant jump when the Note 4 is released.
Personally, I'm upgrading from the Note 2. Big reason is the phone got jacked up and cannot to 3G. Others, I want a larger screen (I was hoping closer to the 6" or bigger), eight core CPU, more ram and internal storage. The Note 2 works for needs, but does not always get me my wants.
I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
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I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.
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I'm one of those that feels the Note 3 wasn't enough of an upgrade from the Note 2.
Most people don't realize that CPU and screen PPI has pretty much reach the peak with phones.
A faster processor means nothing if you aren't maxing out the processor you have and more PPI means nothing since the human eye can't see it.
Even though I have a Note 2 with N3bula ROM with Note 3 features, I want the Note 4 for it's even better multitasking and camera.
However, it has to have root which is why I will not pre-order it. If it doesn't get root, I don't want it.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.
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Completely agree. Suspect there's been quite a bit of placebo being pushed on us unsuspecting consumersfor some time now. Little to no drawbacks on my note 2 so it may be sticking around for a little while longer if these anti hack rumors turn out to be true.
i'm considering switching from my note 4 to the OP2 what are your recommendations ? can i have user reviews about battery and overheating issues (if there's any) ?
I've only had the device for a day and I played a few games and there was no overheating. A little lag in the game but not much. Battery is better than the Note 4. That is for sure! I've owned the Note 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. The OPT does have better battery life than the Note 4 and 5. If i remember right the Note 2 and 3 had amazing battery life.
I will also say this. The Note 5 is faster than the OPT and the camera is better and so is the fingerprint reader software. I hate touchwiz and I mean I really hate it. I said NO MORE SAMSUNGS after the Note 4 but I had to get on Tmobile's Jump plan so I got a Note 5 and I'm impressed with the SW now. Still not stuck but not horrible anymore.
I hope someone answers you but man you have got a lot of reading to do. Same boat as u. torn between op2 and moto. Best of luck.
Interesting
Well, i will be giving a neutral answer.
1. If you owned a note 4(which u already are), dont waste your money and give that OPT invite to others(if you have one)
2. Regarding your question about overheating issue and battery life, i assure you(well unless you get your hand-on an oxygenOS 2.0.0) there is no overheating issue at all(except you play a 3D HD game like implosion for 1hour+ which temperature will be at 48°c). For battery life, i get a decent SOT of 3h45min ~4h30min for average usage such as facebook, watching youtube, spotify, and waze with some occasion wifi hotspot.
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I've only had the device for a day and I played a few games and there was no overheating. A little lag in the game but not much. Battery is better than the Note 4. That is for sure! I've owned the Note 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. The OPT does have better battery life than the Note 4 and 5. If i remember right the Note 2 and 3 had amazing battery life.
I will also say this. The Note 5 is faster than the OPT and the camera is better and so is the fingerprint reader software. I hate touchwiz and I mean I really hate it. I said NO MORE SAMSUNGS after the Note 4 but I had to get on Tmobile's Jump plan so I got a Note 5 and I'm impressed with the SW now. Still not stuck but not horrible anymore.
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Thank you for the answer.
i also had note 1,2,mega,s4,s5, note3,4, and NOT planing to go on note 5 cuz i hate tw and got bored of it so after sammy removed removable battery and extended storage i also said byebye samsung after the note 4. Might as well get something new and different. The HTC m9+ is way out of my budget. And since i saw the OPT i fell in love for it but i had few doubts about the sd810.
thank you alot your answer helped me very much
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I hope someone answers you but man you have got a lot of reading to do. Same boat as u. torn between op2 and moto. Best of luck.
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I reas alot and watched every single review video on youtube, i had 2 options moto nexus 6 and OPT but reviews and specs led me to OPT and i suggest you too go for OPT based on what i've seen and read
best of luck my friend
Warnahly said:
Thank you for the answer.
i also had note 1,2,mega,s4,s5, note3,4, and NOT planing to go on note 5 cuz i hate tw and got bored of it so after sammy removed removable battery and extended storage i also said byebye samsung after the note 4. Might as well get something new and different. The HTC m9+ is way out of my budget. And since i saw the OPT i fell in love for it but i had few doubts about the sd810.
thank you alot your answer helped me very much
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If you haven't played with the S6 or Note 5. You should. You might be a little surprised by TW now. I guess it's the theming engine coupled with the speed. Check it out on a friends phone if you can. Not at the store.
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Well, i will be giving a neutral answer.
1. If you owned a note 4(which u already are), dont waste your money and give that OPT invite to others(if you have one)
2. Regarding your question about overheating issue and battery life, i assure you(well unless you get your hand-on an oxygenOS 2.0.0) there is no overheating issue at all(except you play a 3D HD game like implosion for 1hour+ which temperature will be at 48°c). For battery life, i get a decent SOT of 3h45min ~4h30min for average usage such as facebook, watching youtube, spotify, and waze with some occasion wifi hotspot.
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I dont really know very much about oxygen os lol but im glad to hear that no overheating issues, as for gaming i dont spend more than 10-15 minutes on a game, mostly fb, instagram, calling, whatsapp.......
and as for the invite i dont have one but there is a merchant in my country getting some so im gonna buy from him the 4gb ram 64gb model,
and mate i simply got bored of same tw over and over if there was a cm rom for my varient i wouldnt consider changing my phone.
if you have anyother comments and some things to tell me about the OPT please do as my decision is almost made
Thanks alot for replying
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If you haven't played with the S6 or Note 5. You should. You might be a little surprised by TW now. I guess it's the theming engine coupled with the speed. Check it out on a friends phone if you can. Not at the store.
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I did and yeah its nice and i got ported on my note 4 with 5.1.1 and theme engine and n5 apps and n5 air command so i partially have a note 5 and i think its time for a change after 4 years of samsung
i actually like the s6 edge + its very beautiful, didnt play with it alot but yeah.will try a note 5 from a friend after your recommendation mate
Warnahly said:
I reas alot and watched every single review video on youtube, i had 2 options moto nexus 6 and OPT but reviews and specs led me to OPT and i suggest you too go for OPT based on what i've seen and read
best of luck my friend
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I guess so. The new moto pure has a terrible battery life from what I read so. Although I will miss the touch less control of the x. I want something that can go well for at least a day and somewhat endure for a couple of years. Although the nexus 6 is quite large. Guess it is op2 then. Will get it through oppomart I guess
This is my recent history.
OnePlus One 1 month.
OnePlus Two 2 weeks.
Both OPO & OPT running hot (OPO is hottest).
OPT is equipped with a better battery, and stand-out from the affordable crowd. The thing is, why you want to switch from Note 4? Any particular reason? I guess the Note 4 has all the features one would want. The 16GB version of OPT is way cheaper than Note 5 ot Edge 6. The choise is yours
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OPT is equipped with a better battery, and stand-out from the affordable crowd. The thing is, why you want to switch from Note 4? Any particular reason? I guess the Note 4 has all the features one would want. The 16GB version of OPT is way cheaper than Note 5 ot Edge 6. The choise is yours
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Well yes i have some reasons, first of all this is my 4th year holding samsung devices and stuck wo damn tw and this is the second year i get a device that doesnt get cm or aosp support haha and its time to change for me. I fell in love with OPT the minute i saw it. Thats why
Do not tust oppomart
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I guess so. The new moto pure has a terrible battery life from what I read so. Although I will miss the touch less control of the x. I want something that can go well for at least a day and somewhat endure for a couple of years. Although the nexus 6 is quite large. Guess it is op2 then. Will get it through oppomart I guess
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Do not trust Oppomart.
I buy two time from oppomart first time they sent me a new phone, second time a used phone, I sent back and they stole me 400 euro on refound.
“I’m sorry the packet arrived empty are you sure you put the phone inside?”
Come on!
I buy from aliexpress and pandawill, it never happen something like this.
To be honest with you, the OPT is not ready yet! but dont get me wrong is a good thing,i got it 2 weeks ago,bit laggy, some bugs and some heat on stock Oxygen 2.02.
But here is the thing! If you using AK kernel you get a different phone! no heating anymore, decent battery life much snappier UI,an He is still in beta stage!
Thats why I love OP, couse you dont get the best of everything out the box, you have to "treat" it to make better for you.
Thats why you can see lots of bad reviews, and they right, you can buy an apple which out the box, everything is smooth and working, but please ,its too boring for us "modders".
If you dont mind to digging forums for make the phone better step by step, and trying different kernels,roms every week than go for it, if you wanna settle with something which is settled,than buy samsung or moto.
Never settle!
My Note 2 has served me well, but it's time to move on. The screen shows signs of burn in, and applications frequently crash due to (likely) faulty memory. Clearing the cache helps, but it's not something I want to do daily.
I'm looking for a similar phone with a pen/stylus, replaceable battery and mSD card support. Is the Note 4 the only option? Other than having a phone with no faults, what are expected to be the main benefits if I upgrade, and are there any regressions/drawbacks to consider?
Thanks!
wait a few weeks and see what the Note 7 have to offer ( it wont have removable battery though )
definately Note 7 - waterproof, with decent camera and audio, superb screen, sd card and many many more. I migrated to Note4 (DN5) from N3 and I'm waiting also for n7 as n5 is a crap (or beta version )
Lack of replaceable battery makes the Note 7 a non starter. When travelling I frequently use the phone for many hours without charging (on-foot navigation; tripadvisor etc) and I need it to be completely dependable. With a replaceable battery I just pop a new one in and I'm good for the rest of the day. I tried using a portable charger in the past, and hated how unwieldy it was compared to just spending 10 seconds to replace the battery.
The LG Stylus 2 Plus looks somewhat comparable to the Note 4 and is newer (Android 6, touch fingerprint reader), but seems to have a more limited stylus and lacks a physical home button (which I like very much in the Samsung, but I'm not sure lack of it is a deal breaker).
Thoughts?
Edit: Man, this promotional video from LG is good!
2 august is the day!!!
SM-N910F
What happens on August 2?
If you are on a budget then yes the Note 4 is a worthy upgrade from a Note 2. As it's the last in Samsung's flagship line that had a removable battery. However if you have the cash to spend, wait and get the Note 7.
The Note 7 doesn't fit my requirements, regardless of cost (no replaceable battery). It seems I need to decide between the Note 4 and the much newer LG Stylus 2 Plus.
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The Note 7 doesn't fit my requirements, regardless of cost (no replaceable battery). It seems I need to decide between the Note 4 and the much newer LG Stylus 2 Plus.
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Yap.
My vote is for Note 4.
It`s really an awesome device.
I`m using this one for last one year without any issue.
Excellent Display.
Removable Battery.
Expandable Memory.
Good XDA Dev support.
Stock MM really gives good battery backup.
Micheal86 said:
Yap.
My vote is for Note 4.
It`s really an awesome device.
I`m using this one for last one year without any issue.
Excellent Display.
Removable Battery.
Expandable Memory.
Good XDA Dev support.
Stock MM really gives good battery backup.
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Yeah, the LG Stylus 2 Plus is a rather poor spec device. You are much better getting the Note 4 instead of that! As the stylus used in the LG Stylus 2 is just a regular capacitive stylus that you can get at any high street retailer.
Ok, so I'm probably getting a Note 4 later this week. A few questions to make sure I'm making the right decision:
1. Is it easy to root?
2. Do I need to worry about Knox?
3. Can I use it worldwide without an issue (roaming)? I've had no issues at all in this regard with my Note 2.
4. I can get the N910C variant for less money than the N910F. Is there any significant difference between the two? Note that I don't play games on my phone.
Thanks!
Edit: I can also get the Galaxy Note Edge SM-N915F for the same price as the N910F. It seems pretty cool, but getting a TPU case for it (which I like) seems to be impossible. Such cases are very easy to fine for the Note 4 and usually cost only a couple of bucks.
The N910C is much more stable than the N910F as the N910C uses the Exynos 5433 SOC rather than the Snapdragon 805 in the N910F. You can root it pretty easily both the N910C and F models have excellent worldwide coverage with the exception of specific US carriers.
It is possible to get TPU cases for the Note Edge I've seen them online.
When you say the N910C is much more stable do you mean the N910F tends to crash / freeze, or something else?
Bought the Note Edge eventually. I love almost everything about it, but there are some senseless regressions on the software side:
- No way to display Favorites (contacts) as a list. The thumbnail-based display uses tiny text for names and has them truncated.
- No way to display Apps as a list. The grid display is much slower to browse because the eye has to go in different direction to follow the correct alphabetization.
- Dialer log does not support long-press menu anymore. Makes it more difficult to add a number to the reject list or favorites.
Why cripple things that used to work so well?
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Bought the Note Edge eventually. I love almost everything about it, but there are some senseless regressions on the software side:
- No way to display Favorites (contacts) as a list. The thumbnail-based display uses tiny text for names and has them truncated.
- No way to display Apps as a list. The grid display is much slower to browse because the eye has to go in different direction to follow the correct alphabetization.
- Dialer log does not support long-press menu anymore. Makes it more difficult to add a number to the reject list or favorites.
Why cripple things that used to work so well?
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Congrats mate.
Hope you`re enjoying your new device.
Best of luck.
:good:
Overall I do enjoy it. Hopefully I can find solutions for these relatively minor annoyances.
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Overall I do enjoy it. Hopefully I can find solutions for these relatively minor annoyances.
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Sure mate. Best of luck.
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The Note 4 is great. Since you have no interest in the Note 7, then you'll be completely fine with the N4. I upgraded from a Galaxy S5 and it feels like a completely new phone even though it released a long time ago. Marshmallow breathes new life into it.
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The Note 4 is great. Since you have no interest in the Note 7, then you'll be completely fine with the N4. I upgraded from a Galaxy S5 and it feels like a completely new phone even though it released a long time ago. Marshmallow breathes new life into it.
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Exactly. It's an amazing device
Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
Please share your thoughts.
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Ok, we all know that the Note 7 is coming out in a few days but does anyone actually have any desire to upgrade? I've owned my note 4 for over a year and a half and gone through several ROMs and now I've settled with tx's stock LP OK1 ROM. After debloating and applying some minor tweaks my phone is running great. Everything works. The IR blaster is an awesome tool. I use it to to control my TV's, fios boxes, AC's, etc. The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations. I love having the removable battery and when my battery starts loosing juice I'll buy a new one. My phone is fast and does just about anything I need it to. My phone is always in a case with a screen protector, so there are no scratches on it and the screen is perfect.
Now that it's just about 2 years old does anyone have any real desire to upgrade, if your phone is working properly? To me it seems like the missing features such as the IR Blaster, FM radio and removable battery in the Note 7 are a deal breaker. I'm sure it will be a handsome and lightening fast phone. Yeah it will beat out my note 4 on every benchmark but is it worth the $700+ upgrade? I just don't see any reason to upgrade.
Please share your thoughts.
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Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
I got an AT&T Note 4, but due to locked bootloader, I sold it without even using it. Upgraded to LG G4, sold it due to bugs. Nexus 6P is nice, but I always found myself missing my Note 3 and the S-Pen, backup batteries, and SD cards.
So I sold the Nexus 6P and now I bought myself a Note 4 with unlocked bootloader and I'm all set for the long term with my Note 4. When I researched Note 5 and 7, I totally lost interest at the non-removable battery part. They should have renamed the Note series to Samsung Galaxy GNote 5 and GNote 7 (Gimped Note).
Is the Note 4 the last great phone? For me, yes.
Hard to justify going to a Note 7. It's just not that impressive. Only thing I wish would be better on the note 4 is the camera. The S7 camera is pretty impressive and fast.
I can let most things slide, or grow to love other features, it's just hard without the IR blaster... Not sure why Samsung thought it was a great idea to remove it from their phones. I mean it's not like they make home theater equipment.... So, yeah, it sucks as we evolve in some places we simultaneously devolve in others.
Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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Looks like I'm not alone in my thoughts. Hopefully more of us are sticking with our Note 4's. I just hope the ROM community for it stays strong. From what I've heard its gonna be locked bootloaders from now on.
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The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
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The Note 7 does sound very appealing, it has specs you can't ignore, it's defiantly better than the Note 5(which was a step backwards in my eyes, not even an sd card).
But i would never spend 700 on it to upgrade from a note 4. Maybe if I had a crappy phone, I would. Especially if they keep locked bootloader. These companies need to quit with this locked bootloader s#*t.
The note 4 is one of the best phones ever. It can still stand up to most new phones out there. Unlocked, replacable battery, sd card, ir port. Lots of development for it, need i say more.
With that being said, I'll be keeping my note 4 for a long while.
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Yup I agree. Once I heard the specs about the note 5 I completely lost interest. The note 7 does have some nice specs and the added SD Card support is great but still, too many essentials are missing. And most importantly the locked bootloader. No chance I'm going to buy a phone that is locked down. Hopefully nothing happens to my note 4 for the next few years.
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The FM radio is great and can use it to listen to my radio stations.
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Wait, what? How are you doing this?
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Wait, what? How are you doing this?
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The NextRadio app lets you do this. Sprint has unlocked the FM Radio in their phones for quite some time now.
I got my Note 4 last July. By that time, it had already been out for a while, but I had an early upgrade opportunity and made the jump from the Galaxy S5 I had gotten just 11 months earlier.
At the time, I was looking at either the Nexus 6 or the Note 4. Ultimately, the Note 4 won because of a removable battery and the option to add a micro SD card for extra storage. The phone still works great, and while I'm still about a year out from my upgrade point, I'm hoping there will be better options by that time.
iTzFeRReTTi said:
Not worth the upgrade in my opinion. Galaxy note 4 + 10000mAH battery is life
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agreed
[/COLOR]Locked bootloader? No thank you.
Only way to fully protect yourself from malvertising 0 day exploits is full phone adblock and AdAway needs root.
My Note 4 has been great, with Anker battery and wireless chargers everywhere never running out of juice.
The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
Keeping mine too. I'm done with Samsung. Time to move on to someone else
The main appeal to me is the water resistance but not knowing if the battery will die fairly rapidly like the note 4 battery pretty much counters that with it being not removable. Ill probably wait and see if the next nexus iteration has water resistance.
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The Note 7 is pretty disappointing to say the least. Really not much different than an S7 Edge. Sammy really dropped the ball on that one.
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Note 7 was meant to be disappointing. You gotta remember, the note series is intended for business users who have a need for a stylus. It was never going to have 6GB of RAM or the newest snapdragon. If we all expected that then we don't know why the S7 exists. It is the flagship phone from Samsung, not the Note. The people on XDA who root their notes pales in comparison to the actual number of note users who do not. Samsung is like any other company. IPhone has 1 flagship. That's what samsung wants
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The note 7 is still an awesome phone. Better specs than the note 4. I still don't mind using the note 4 and will continue to do so. I wanted to upgrade to the newest note but if the bootloader is locked and no possibility of root it's a no go for me.
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the Note 5 disappointed me but the Note 7 has everything i want except for an IR blaster.
If you don't think the Note 7 is an upgrade, you must not have played with it in real life. The phone is gorgeous especially the screen. The only thing I will miss is the IR blaster but oh well. Now to find where to sell my Note 4 for the highest price....
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