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I was all amped up to finally make the leap from just being rooted (OC3) to installing a custom rom (CM 12.1) and spent a bunch of time researching the process and trying to figure out why my attempts to install a custom recovery were all unsuccessful. Then I came here and discovered why (AT&T locks the bootloader).
Now I'm feeling very deflated. Originally I thought I'd get a Nexus phone but I don't like the new Nexus offerings. The next best alternative to me was to pretty much go AOSP with my S4 (eventually moving to CM 13 once that releases for the S4).
So my main question is this: for someone who was interested in going pretty much as stock Android as possible, what's the best option among roms that I can install on my phone, particularly roms which will continue to give my phone life moving forward in terms of updates (marshmallow and beyond)?
And my secondary question is what, if any, reasons are there for me to install a custom rom if I'm not interested in bling? In other words, what are the functional advantages (e.g. enabling tethering, non-broken xposed, eliminating samsung/at&t bloat, etc)?
Appreciate any info and guidance!
I guess I have a 3rd question - is there any hope that we will ever be able to replace the bootloader and install roms like CM? I have no idea if anyone is working on that and it's just a matter of time or if it's considered to be an impossible task.
I can't answer your first question and I'm not sure why you are asking since you aren't able to install proper custom roms anyway..
You don't need a custom rom for a number of things you mention. Removing bloat can speed up your device, save battery, and put an end to some of the annoyances you get from unwanted apps. Xposed is great for customizing your phone and getting rid of that irritating high volume notification.
Finally, no, there is no hope of unlocking the bootloader. The S4 is old so fewer and fewer people care about it. There is a thread about it in the Verizon s4 forum...
My advice : get rid of your S4. Find a phone that uses stock Android and not all this custom TouchWiz rubbish.
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Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !
If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643
GrippingSphere said:
If n910g, this is highly recommended, although you have to disable or uninstall later all apps that you don't want if you want a debloated rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...n910g-official-mm-6-0-1-t3359211/post67201643
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It is N910F.
The link you provided is simply stock android MM?
Yes stock MM, stock is in my experience the most stable and bug free rom build. But the link is for n910g unfortunately.
Stock ROM, and then debloat yourself. Quite honestly speaking, and no offence to anyone, there are no good ROMs available for Note 4. In fact I myself might have not got the phone if I realised the development section is like this. And I am not interested in ported ROMs, so even though there are many available I won't go that way, and I am too dumb to make a ROM for myself, so stock ROM it is.
I agree, stock rom rooted and debloat it, and apply msm tweaks. If you want, xposed as well.
Utini said:
Hello everyone,
I personally never owned a Samsung device (always Nexus and mostly with Paranoid Android or Dirty Unicorns ROM) but my girlfriend has one and she defeniately needs it to be flashed :good:
As I am completely new to Samsung devices, I have no idea about all the developers and different ROMs that are out there for the Samsung Note 4 (Snapdragon).
I don't have much time to try around with different ROMs as it isn't my phone.
I need one that is good, stable, fast (and also supports the stylus / samsung apps). So I can flash it quickly and have a happy girlfriend
So that is the reason I an asking in the first place. Else I would just flash around and keep trying until I find the best fit.
I saw CM is officially supporting the Note 4. So that one might be a good solution. But does it have all those stylus samsung stuff?
Any other ROMs I should check out?
Do I need to flash a new radio?
Thanks in advance and sorry for posting another "which ROM" thread. But I can't really test around to find out on my own as it is not my device that I am going to improve !
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You must flash samsung based rom to have all soen features and samsung apps. I reconnemed kurama rom which in using , its battery friendly, fast and stock based. If you going to flash kurama rom you must flash modem and bootloader for the rom to boot up (only can be flashed from pc with odin)
Since 1+3, I did not have the need to root and install custom ROMs on the devices. I have passed on the 3 & 3T to my wife and daughter. They also don't see the reason to root and use custom ROMs. On 1+5, with all the updates, what would be the key motivator for custom roms? I do like customizable rom and ability to freshen up when bored. Majority of custom ROMs features I don't even use on daily basis. I did put RR rom on my 1+1 and it's really nice. Just not snappy with less Ram. Just trying to see what experts here feel about it? Any inputs are greatly appreciated!
Im still on stock, but would root it for sure, for 2 reasons, viper and adblock.
Custom roms are useful, when you dont have the official update rolling out for new versions of android.
As of now OP5 runs on 7.1.1, so thats good enough.
I root and add TWRP, titanium backup and add block on my phones with out question. Also for certain apps I need to push to system like a no add YouTube APK. I'm still on stock ROM with stock kernel but sometimes use custom kernels. The stock OOS ROM basically has just about everything I look for in a custom ROM as it is. So did me, no need for custom ROMs and this is the first ever phone I haven't put a custom ROM on, at least not yet.
Hello guys, I would like to know from you if its worth it to flash a customrom on my mia1. I've been using it since one year now , and i have keept it stock, just the camera2api for gc.
And over all i've been happy with it.
And have 0 experience with A/B partition phones ,my previews phone was nexus 6.
Is it easy to flash twrp and than a custom rom ?
Any suggestions would be apreciated :victory:
Depends what extra feature you seek.
I use stock happily with xposed
I'll probably use a custom ROM once Xiaomi drops update and support for Mi A1.
nananonoka said:
I'll probably use a custom ROM once Xiaomi drops update and support for Mi A1.
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Thats what i've been thinking too , its not that i need any more features , im used to stock android.
In my opinion, nowadays smartphones already have many cool features and don't really require custom mods, like root or custom roms, however there are still a few but pretty strong reasons why you would like to flash a custom ROM:
- You'll always have the latest Android OS and security patches without having to wait like on stock ROM
- You'll have a wide range of customization possibilities so you can set your Mi A1 just on the style you want
- You'll also have the possibility of using custom Kernels which can give you better performance, specially in gaming or if you're more of a battery guy, they'll focus more into battery, depending on what you're looking for
- You'll be able to root your device which also opens many possibilities (mainly using root apps) but it's also pretty useful specially with that magisk modules thing which allow you to install things like the stock Mi A1 camera on custom ROMs, apps like Viper4Android (which is an equalizer with premium sound quality), etc.
Last but not least, keep in mind that the stock ROM already is very smooth and has a great battery life, so don't expect custom ROMs to be better than that, from my experience I can tell that custom ROMs are pretty close or equal, but I haven't found a ROM that gives better battery life than stock (maybe there are some or maybe it just needs some kernel tweaking, however I'm not really into kernel tweaking lol)
My advice: If you're looking for latest updates or customization, go ahead and flash a custom ROM, every other thing can be done on stock, keep in mind that the stock ROM can also be rooted or flashed with a custom kernel
I'm actually using NitrogenOS with Moun kernel and I couldn't be more satisfied, ROM feels stable, smooth and has a fairly decent amount of customization along with latest Android 9.0 and latest security patches without having to wait for them like on stock ROM.
Aaaaand also keep in mind that if after trying custom ROMs you don't like them, you can always come back to stock, like if you've never flashed a custom OS, so I would try it out, if you want I can guide you through the whole process on telegram
Short answer: Yes.
Longer answer:
Xiaomi seem to not be that good with speed & quality of updates. I haven't experienced many bugs myself but just the fact how slow updates are compared to custom ROMs and the fact that Magisk doesn't work properly on Stock made me just forget about it and flash a Custom ROM.
The question has to be asked.... What do you want you don't already have?
If a custom rom offers a feature you need then yes do it otherwise I have to ask why would you want to?
MrBurnGamer said:
In my opinion, nowadays smartphones already have many cool features and don't really require custom mods, like root or custom roms, however there are still a few but pretty strong reasons why you would like to flash a custom ROM:
- You'll always have the latest Android OS and security patches without having to wait like on stock ROM
- You'll have a wide range of customization possibilities so you can set your Mi A1 just on the style you want
- You'll also have the possibility of using custom Kernels which can give you better performance, specially in gaming or if you're more of a battery guy, they'll focus more into battery, depending on what you're looking for
- You'll be able to root your device which also opens many possibilities (mainly using root apps) but it's also pretty useful specially with that magisk modules thing which allow you to install things like the stock Mi A1 camera on custom ROMs, apps like Viper4Android (which is an equalizer with premium sound quality), etc.
Last but not least, keep in mind that the stock ROM already is very smooth and has a great battery life, so don't expect custom ROMs to be better than that, from my experience I can tell that custom ROMs are pretty close or equal, but I haven't found a ROM that gives better battery life than stock (maybe there are some or maybe it just needs some kernel tweaking, however I'm not really into kernel tweaking lol)
My advice: If you're looking for latest updates or customization, go ahead and flash a custom ROM, every other thing can be done on stock, keep in mind that the stock ROM can also be rooted or flashed with a custom kernel
I'm actually using NitrogenOS with Moun kernel and I couldn't be more satisfied, ROM feels stable, smooth and has a fairly decent amount of customization along with latest Android 9.0 and latest security patches without having to wait for them like on stock ROM.
Aaaaand also keep in mind that if after trying custom ROMs you don't like them, you can always come back to stock, like if you've never flashed a custom OS, so I would try it out, if you want I can guide you through the whole process on telegram
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I ve been using custom rom since my firet android phone the s3 and still have it , i have 4 phones now i9300, i9505, nexus 6 all are on custom rom, and mia1, i ve been afraid to tweak mia1 becouse of a/b partition , but also havent felt the need yet, becouse till now xioami has released the updates in time (even though at the end of the month, on nexus 6 it was the same)
kudos1uk said:
The question has to be asked.... What do you want you don't already have?
If a custom rom offers a feature you need then yes do it otherwise I have to ask why would you want to?
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Mostly i would like on screen buttons , and the headphone volume got lower on oreo, in nougat it was great , this are the only reason i would like to try a custom rom
orgert said:
Mostly i would like on screen buttons , and the headphone volume got lower on oreo, in nougat it was great , this are the only reason i would like to try a custom rom
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I guess rooting would be enough then. You can change both with magisk (or build prop settings afaik).
I liked LOS to try out something new but came back to stock. Now I am thinking of rooting again for bt volume.
Another great reason is camera2 for google camera. Way better than stock IMO
Better flash custom roms after xiaomi drops the updates. Like after a year Pie updates.
lolmensch said:
I guess rooting would be enough then. You can change both with magisk (or build prop settings afaik).
I liked LOS to try out something new but came back to stock. Now I am thinking of rooting again for bt volume.
Another great reason is camera2 for google camera. Way better than stock IMO
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Or xposed
orgert said:
I ve been using custom rom since my firet android phone the s3 and still have it , i have 4 phones now i9300, i9505, nexus 6 all are on custom rom, and mia1, i ve been afraid to tweak mia1 becouse of a/b partition , but also havent felt the need yet, becouse till now xioami has released the updates in time (even though at the end of the month, on nexus 6 it was the same)
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Don't be afraid of A/B Partition, CosmicDan TWRP very easy to use
Like the title says, is the original rom good? Or should i go custom right as i boot it 1fst time
It worth it, at least you get the notifications work correctly and shows at the top of the status bar unlike the stock rom..
My advice to you is to istall lineage only, it's the most stable rom so far.
It depends on your priorities, if you want more choice, more control on what apps are pre installed, no bloatware, and more customization options, then that's what custom roms are for. But mind that it comes with lower security, at least as long as the manufacturer updates the device. Because custom roms usually run with looser security settings and features.
does custom roms fix the touchscreen lag on the edges?
Not worth it yet. Wait till official lineage and official trwp are released. More risky to use custom roms whose source codes are not released.
kennyk09 said:
Not worth it yet. Wait till official lineage and official trwp are released. More risky to use custom roms whose source codes are not released.
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as i've seen and read in the forums, the unoffical lineage rom seems to be very stable already. Which problem do you see in flashing this version now?
My bootloader is unlocked in 3 hours and i want to get rid of this EMUI crap and bloatware
xs1cht said:
as i've seen and read in the forums, the unoffical lineage rom seems to be very stable already. Which problem do you see in flashing this version now?
My bootloader is unlocked in 3 hours and i want to get rid of this EMUI crap and bloatware
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You don't get updates on unofficial versions and it's not as well maintained/supported as name implies. I rather keep bootloader locked and secured, and get almost monthly updates from xiaomi. Until official TWRP and LOS are released, as stated earlier. No need to rush and deal with instability or unexpected problems. I debloat unnecessary apps using SAKI program on stock room without root. I honestly think this is the best path to go for now.
I won't install any custom roms before official TWRP support and official LineageOS ROM support comes. I'd not also unlock my phone's bootloader untill those two thing comes.
julianbraso said:
does custom roms fix the touchscreen lag on the edges?
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I switched to Pixel Exirience rom from the global 10.3.5 and touch latency on the edges still the same.
I don't know what custom rom users priorities are, mine definitely having a smooth and proper working device. Most roms I tested in the past simple but most used features, like the camera, were always a headache. It might make sense for a techie or geek, but for daily use I'd rather debloat MIUI for mind peace...
https://forum.xda-developers.com/re...loat-redmi-note-7-miui-10-3-5-0-root-t3928466
any of you guys installed xiaomi.eu? seems like the better version of miui IMO.
sn4ezz said:
I switched to Pixel Exirience rom from the global 10.3.5 and touch latency on the edges still the same.
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have you tried flashing another kernel?
Maybe THIS can help you with your choice.
julianbraso said:
have you tried flashing another kernel?
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The Evira Kernel is built into the PE, so i just updated it to the last 1.9 version and did not feel any difference.
sn4ezz said:
The Evira Kernel is built into the PE, so i just updated it to the last 1.9 version and did not feel any difference.
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bummer (( i was really hoping it was a software issue and a kernel could fix it
xs1cht said:
as i've seen and read in the forums, the unoffical lineage rom seems to be very stable already. Which problem do you see in flashing this version now?
My bootloader is unlocked in 3 hours and i want to get rid of this EMUI crap and bloatware
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If you just want to get rid off the bloatware, just use adb commands. No unlocking and rooting needed
If you got the 3GB/32GB variant. then lineage OS or pixel experience should save you some extra GBs of storage and free you some extra ram (MiUI 10.3.5 uses 1.6GB or something IDLE and leaves you with 20GB storage with stock apps)
It is to early. You have latest version of Android OS on your phone, and Xaomi still give us updates with some new features.
Custom Roms are still developing and have some bugs,so .. I will no rush with installing custom rom yet. Thats my opinion.
When Xaomi stop supporting us and giving us updates,after one year that is sure that will happen,than will custom ROMs will be fully developed..and can install it..
I would like to have custom rom ,and Elvira kernel, I like tweaks and mods from Magisk. But also I want to see MIUI 11 and next Xaomi updates for RN7.
As soon as I could, I unlocked my bootloader and installed AOSP (GSI).
I don't really like MIUI, it has a lot of nice features but actually I don't use most of them.
For me, it's worth.