Is it true that the Kirin 960 = SD 820/821? - Huawei P10 Plus Questions & Answers

I heard a youtuber called Floss claimed that the Kirin 960 is exactly the same as the SD 820/821.
Is that really true?
Currently using Sony XZ I bought two months ago as a temp phone until the new Sony XZ Premium comes out next month but I also had this phone on the radar.
But why would I buy this phone if the above is true and not just wait for Premium with SD 835?
Thanks.

I think you meant SD 820, 821 & 835.
Here is a good comparison (SD821 & Kirin960 included) with benchmarks by a respected site - if you have limited time, just read the Wrap-up near the bottom (last 6 paragraphs):
SoC showdown 2016: Snapdragon 821 vs Exynos 8890 vs MediaTek Helio X25 vs Kirin 960
In everyday usage, you'll not be able to tell between these or the SD835. The Sony XZ Premium seems a bit gimmicky to me with a totally unnecessary 4K screen - the relatively average 3230mAh is likely to take a beating because of this.

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Vivo Xplay 3S finally breaks the barrier as world's first 2K phone

Just when it looked as Samsung will be the first, or even Oppo who boasted they will do it first just yesterday, Vivo, at Beijing's Water Cube event center in China, has finally released the world's first mobile phone with 2560x1440 pixels resolution.
The Vivo Xplay 3S features a massive 6" 2560x1440pixels QHD(not the same as qHD) display with a PPI sum of 490 — though huge, but unfortunately not crashing through the 500 PPI barrier as expected(if it came with a 5.5-inch screen).
The phone is powered by's Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 8974AB SoC, 2.3GHz Krait 400 CPU, 3GB of RAM and Adreno 330 GPU. The power juice is supplied by a 3200mAh battery. The Xplay 3S sports a 13MP camera with f/1.8 aperture, and can record 1080p motion pictures.
Now, away from the basics, the Vivo Xplay 3S is the model of a 2014 flagship. A fingerprint sensor just below the flash and stereo speakers at the back makes you wanna wish Santa for one right away.
Is the 2K resolution a bad-ass feature or a gimmick?
Source: bestmobs.com/vivo-xplay-3s-finally-breaks-the-worlds-first-2k-phone/
jacide said:
Just when it looked as Samsung will be the first, or even Oppo who boasted they will do it first just yesterday, Vivo, at Beijing's Water Cube event center in China, has finally released the world's first mobile phone with 2560x1440 pixels resolution.
The Vivo Xplay 3S features a massive 6" 2560x1440pixels QHD(not the same as qHD) display with a PPI sum of 490 — though huge, but unfortunately not crashing through the 500 PPI barrier as expected(if it came with a 5.5-inch screen).
The phone is powered by's Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 8974AB SoC, 2.3GHz Krait 400 CPU, 3GB of RAM and Adreno 330 GPU. The power juice is supplied by a 3200mAh battery. The Xplay 3S sports a 13MP camera with f/1.8 aperture, and can record 1080p motion pictures.
Now, away from the basics, the Vivo Xplay 3S is the model of a 2014 flagship. A fingerprint sensor just below the flash and stereo speakers at the back makes you wanna wish Santa for one right away.
Is the 2K resolution a bad-ass feature or a gimmick?
Source: bestmobs.com/vivo-xplay-3s-finally-breaks-the-worlds-first-2k-phone/
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Not quite sute if our eye will be able to catch the difference of such a display. Personally I can't tell the difference between a galaxy S3 and galaxy S4...
Check out this video by MKBHD. He has a very good point about this 2K displays.
http://youtu.be/E0_JrUNevdc
Note also
That Vivo is Made under OPPO's umbrella so technically speaking well you know the rest they are the first lol I want this phone so bad just for its advanced audio for wired music I cant find it anywhere I can trust to purchase it so ill wait some time it will be this the S5 or the find 7 another Oppo device! excited for either or mainly this one my last resource will be to ask a college friend who lives in china right now to go look for it for me lol
vivo xplay 3s seller
hey there,
here is the link for a trusted seller,he had problems shipping before but is now using TNT to ship and all is going smoothly,once you click on the vivo button you can scroll down to the bottom of the page and post questions to the seller,he will also put google on it for you before shipping
and i must say it is an awesome device...the antutu benchmark blows everything else out of the water,the only two cons are you cannot replace the battery and no ex sd other than that it just rocks...oh and you have to learn the os because there is no manual for it:good:
http://www.liaow.com/huaweilist.php

Galaxy S6 (SIX) Specs

Galaxy S6 features:
Snapdragon 810
Notable features:
64 bit octa-core CPU running at up to 2.5 GHz
4 MB of cache
4K UHD video upscale & play
4Kx2K @60fps play
Dual camera image signal processor
Adreno 430 GPU
IZat Gen8B
USB 2.0 and 3.0
20 nm HKMG
LTE cat6/7 with 300 MB/s only MSM8994
Yeah, and probably it won't have a battery. You'll need a power outlet to use it and the mobility depends strictly on the length of the cable .
At least this seems to be the new thing. Who needs a big battery when you can have a thin and useless phone?
snapdragon 810
Those Specs are Real:
The Galaxy S5 has a Snapdragon 805
And the Galaxy S6 will have the Snapdragon 810
You wont see the 64 bit 8 core Snapdragon 810 untill the Galaxy S6 even though it is already fully working and finished.
SJGSM said:
Those Specs are Real:
The Galaxy S5 has a Snapdragon 805
And the Galaxy S6 will have the Snapdragon 810
You wont see the 64 bit 8 core Snapdragon 810 untill the Galaxy S6 even though it is already fully working and finished.
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And who are you? Most tech sites are already showing the S5 as having an overclocked 2.5ghz Snap800. Not that an 805 is entirely impossible but roadmaps from qualcomm don't put it being out until later summer. Also I'm 100% calling BS on your "S6 specs"
What's the term? Put up or shut up. Prove it
http://galaxysamsungs6.com
Guys its a blog of mine you can check details on s6
sahil_arora05 said:
http://galaxysamsungs6.com
Guys its a blog of mine you can check details on s6
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The specs for the S5 hasnt been confirmed yet and you are speculating about s6?
daraj said:
The specs for the S5 hasnt been confirmed yet and you are speculating about s6?
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Yes buddy y can't we? Its just speculations based on the previous devices of galaxy s series and some future expectations. Isn't it good?
Might as well start speculating about the galaxy s7
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This might be a bit early but I got the sauce on the Galaxy S8. Samsung is planning to change the brand name from Galaxy to Universe so it will be the Universe S8. They hope to have Quantum Computation or xQC down by then. Early estimates show it will have up to a 5000% performance increase. Battery Life still 3 hours of screen time though.
SJGSM said:
Galaxy S6 features:
Snapdragon 810
Notable features:
64 bit octa-core CPU running at up to 2.5 GHz
4 MB of cache
4K UHD video upscale & play
4Kx2K @60fps play
Dual camera image signal processor
Adreno 430 GPU
IZat Gen8B
USB 2.0 and 3.0
20 nm HKMG
LTE cat6/7 with 300 MB/s only MSM8994
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LMAO!
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someone just traveled on a time machine and had a peek over specs
This thread is based on complete speculation and has nothing to do with this sub forum which is for the Samsung Galaxy S 5.
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HTC Volantis tipped with a Snapdragon 810, 5GB RAM, 64GB storage, BoomSound, and more

http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=856408
HTC Volantis tipped with a Snapdragon 810, 5GB RAM, 64GB storage, BoomSound, and more
Anybody heard about this beast or is this nonsense?
I'd say nonsense but who knows
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I kinda doubt it'll be a snapdragon 810... Qualcomm's website even says it won't be available till mid 2015...
http://www.qualcomm.com/snapdragon/processors/810
" The Snapdragon 810 processor is anticipated to begin sampling in the second half of 2014 and expected to be available in commercial devices by the first half of 2015."
I'm betting on the K1 processor from Nvidia. But if it's the 64bit version it'll only be a dual core... Not sure how well most tablet apps and the Android OS is coded for 4 threads... So dual core may be fine...
3 or 4 GB would sound more realistic to me. Btw, if this device actually releases with a 4:3 display, I´m not going to buy it :good:
Gorgtech said:
3 or 4 GB would sound more realistic to me. Btw, if this device actually releases with a 4:3 display, I´m not going to buy it :good:
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Yeah, most important specs are screen size and aspect ratio, if it is 8.4"+ with 16:10 ratio I am defintely getting it, but I won't ever buy a 4:3 tablet b/c how much I do video streaming on it.
jblaze10 said:
http://androidforums.com/showthread.php?t=856408
HTC Volantis tipped with a Snapdragon 810, 5GB RAM, 64GB storage, BoomSound, and more
Anybody heard about this beast or is this nonsense?
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Those specs are just a pipedream.
It was reported over 2 weeks ago on Android Police: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/06/21/this-is-volantis-htcs-nine-inch-nexus-tablet/
These specs are more realistic to me:
•8.9" Display at 2048x1440 (281ppi)
•NVIDIA Logan 64-bit processor (Tegra K1)
•2GB RAM
•16/32GB internal storage
•8MP OIS main camera, 3MP front facing camera
•Aluminum zero-gap construction
•Stereo front-facing speakers
•8.91"x5.98"x0.31" body (that's 22.63x15.19x0.79cm)
•418g (or 427g with LTE) (that's 14.74/15.1 ounces)
If it's the Tegra k1, benchmarks of the new nexus will blow everything out of the water... And wait till custom kernels with overclocking...
5 GB RAM.... I'm posting this from a PC with only 2GB of RAM xD Phones will be more powerful than PC's at this rate.
Wishful thinking has once again made it to the rumour mill, I see.
Fake.
No company is stupid enough to sell 5GB when there are none yet with 4GB. It makes more business sense to sell a 4GB one first. (same principle as why we've got 2K and now a few 4K tv's whilst they're already capable of making 8K for several years.)
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Lol at this thread
but we got light bleed!
i just heard about hTC One M9 will be release at MWC 2015. might use Snapdragon 810 under hood. Might lot of my dream specs especially LTE cat.6.
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X Compact discussion thread

X Compact is coming up on IFA 2016
https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/768782671707148288/photo/1
I think the design is a bit more like Nokia Lumia. Not much info yet but leaking info. said 2700Mah, S650, 4.6" IPS, usb type-c, 3GB ram.
https://www.facebook.com/sonyhongkong/videos/10154558233497871/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mb7OhTrojg
Plus Sony FES Watch looks coming soon too.
They have lost their minds. Wide range of phones with specs from mid range to premium, but still premium with their prices.
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mele80 said:
They have lost their minds. Wide range of phones with specs from mid range to premium, but still premium with their prices.
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yup, Sony is over priced, they are always expensive. I would like to know any new features or quality improvement on camera. I won't get a new compact now but if the camera is great this time, I may get it next year when it become cheaper.
Another problem is s650 get used, not s820 so we'll not supported by AndroPlus Kernel again(we need donate a x compact for AndroPlus).
The Z5C was the last great phone from Sony.
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The Z5C was the last great phone from Sony.
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CPU speed is roughly the same but s810 GPU is much faster than s650(only at S808 GPU level). So, the cpu actually is a downgrade but 3GB ram is useful. S650 should be more heat friendly but Z5c is fine after rooted and lower cpu clock.
What exactly is compact about this phone? The bezel size is one of the worst I've ever seen on a phone.
civicsr2cool said:
What exactly is compact about this phone? The bezel size is one of the worst I've ever seen on a phone.
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My guess is just an early prototype, the final ver might be different.
TheEndHK said:
My guess is just an early prototype, the final ver might be different.
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It's likely a prototype bit probably not far off. This phone wouldnt make sense to buy over a 6s being that big.
civicsr2cool said:
It's likely a prototype bit probably not far off. This phone wouldnt make sense to buy over a 6s being that big.
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2016/08/25/xperia-xz-and-xperia-x-compact-confirmed-on-sony-site/
The Sony Mobile Czech site has confirmed that the two handsets to launch at IFA next week will be called the Xperia XZ and Xperia X Compact. Looks like Sony has found a way to get the ‘Z’ branding back into its phones to denote the flagship device.
LOL .... X & Z = XZ
TheEndHK said:
CPU speed is roughly the same but s810 GPU is much faster than s650(only at S808 GPU level). So, the cpu actually is a downgrade but 3GB ram is useful. S650 should be more heat friendly but Z5c is fine after rooted and lower cpu clock.
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so true!!
Z5C faster also better GPU basemark X z5c= 30K , X = 15K ,50% less ( regular Z5=23K) compact faster because screen resolution is720P and not 1080P
at CPU level only when the heat start to kick, X will faster from Z5 (really by little bit and not always)
only x performance has faster cpu but for gaming its the same, again because the resolution: look at the result i uploaded
the only "down side" for Z5c is low RAM . but they say for 720P resolution 2GB its good enough , (although already reached only 250MB free RAM on really heavy games)
i wonder if Z5 will have the same free RAM with the same games
Superrman said:
so true!!
Z5C faster also better GPU basemark X z5c= 30K , X = 15K ,50% less ( regular Z5=23K) compact faster because screen resolution is720P and not 1080P
at CPU level only when the heat start to kick, X will faster from Z5 (really by little bit and not always)
only x performance has faster cpu but for gaming its the same, again because the resolution: look at the result i uploaded
the only "down side" for Z5c is low RAM . but they say for 720P resolution 2GB its good enough , (although already reached only 250MB free RAM on really heavy games)
i wonder if Z5 will have the same free RAM with the same games
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The XC prototype should be sd650 and retail ver still have chance to use sd820 but I think the whole idea is switch to a cheaper CPU and free up budget to get 3GB ram. Overall a fair trade. Some rumors claimed XC will use 4.6" FHD if that is ture together with s650 will got a big performace hit on gaming and probably battery life even worse than Z5c.
I think Sony MM memory management not optimized or MM really consumed more ram, or both. We can only debloat the rom and use greenify donated to free up more ram.
Gaming on 720P will use texture at a lower resolution.
Sony Xperia X Compact goes official
Snapdragon 650? So the compact is now midrange? Sigh
uchosen said:
Sony Xperia X Compact goes official
Snapdragon 650? So the compact is now midrange? Sigh
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Mid range and not so compact. In other news I bought my first iPhone yesterday and put my Sony up for sale.
Well, at least z5c will be even more cheaper... Kaz, who ever is a head of sony mobile needs to be shot to the sun with a cannon and a switch has to be done. I see vaio destiny for Sony mobile.
Anyone think Sony will price this mid-ranger at $300? Yeah, probably not but I hope to be proved wrong.
The XC is ****, jeez. How bad are they wanting to get their phones...
I'm ranking XC as better than Z5C :
XC > Z5C :
slightly same cpu performance and better heat dicipation
better gpu performance
3gb of ram
better camera performance
better fingerprint reader
usb type-C
better design (personal taste)
support will last longer
XC < Z5C:
no ip68 (like other oem's cared before pfff)
type of ram (DDR3)
plastic instead of frosted glass (really liked the feel of it)
If the price stays bellow 400$ Xperia X Compact is a really good phone and I will buy it
sheraro said:
I'm ranking XC as better than Z5C :
XC > Z5C :
slitly same cpu performance and better heat dicipation
better gpu performance
3gb of ram
better camera performance
usb type-C
better design (personal taste)
support will last longer
XC < Z5C:
no ip68 (like other oem's cared before pfff)
type of ram (DDR3)
plastic instead of frosted glass (really liked the feel of it)
If the price stays bellow 400$ Xperia X Compact is a really good phone and I will buy it
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Adreon 430 > Adreon 510
We will see about heat
From videos I hate new design
Really only camera is better (?) in x compact. Not worth an upgrade.
sheraro said:
I'm ranking XC as better than Z5C :
XC > Z5C :
slightly same cpu performance and better heat dicipation
better gpu performance
3gb of ram
better camera performance
better fingerprint reader
usb type-C
better design (personal taste)
support will last longer
XC < Z5C:
no ip68 (like other oem's cared before pfff)
type of ram (DDR3)
plastic instead of frosted glass (really liked the feel of it)
If the price stays bellow 400$ Xperia X Compact is a really good phone and I will buy it
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Both SD650 and SD810 only used 28nm HPM but SD650 replaced the big core from A57 to A72(and reduced to Hexcore) should improve hot issue and battery life but I don't expect as much improvement of SD820. SD810 GPU much faster bcoz SD650 gpu only identical to SD808 gpu.
I don't like the XC design, I think my Z1c and Z5c much better but the color on XC looks good.
Sony removed 4K recording from XC though we can enable 4K with root just like other X series's phones but we got to use 3rd apps to shoot 4K. Hence, the new 5-axis steadyshot is only available to FHD bcoz 3rd apps can't use it.
Official support from Sony is longer but I doubt we will get many support from XDA this time bcoz our CPU is different now and just can't port from XZ directly like we did on Z1c, Z3c and Z5c.
Correction:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-x-performance/how-to/root-how-to-enable-sonys-4k-video-t3406075
XC should be able to use official 4K sony app with root follow this method but not sure if the 5-axis steadyshot still work.
algiuz said:
Adreon 430 > Adreon 510
We will see about heat
From videos I hate new design
Really only camera is better (?) in x compact. Not worth an upgrade.
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Yes. It's safe to say only 3GB ram and camera is better and others are downgraded. I would like to see how good of the new camera bcoz I don't satisfy with Z5c.
If they real improve the camera, I may switch to XC next year but really, I don't think worth to do it, sticking with Z5c and wait XC2 is a better choice for most of us.

Mi MAX 2 going to be launched. What do you think guys?

http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_2-8582.php
no improvement - 6.44" (1080x1920 pixels)
no improvement - 12MP (2160p)
good improvement - 6GB RAM (Snapdragon 626)
slight imprvement - 5000mAh (Li-Ion)
The SOC feels like a downgrade
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big improvement - NFC
Some rumors about a SD 660 chipset. Otherwise I dont know how the 626 compares to 650. Is the camera alot better I might be interested anyway. My wife can get my mi max 1 then
The camera will be a great improvement (Sony imx 378)
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The SOC feels like a downgrade
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Yeah, if that really is the SoC with 3 year old A53-s, its a downgrade.
Keep the price at around $300 for the 128gb version and it will be a steal even with a slightly better soc and camera.
SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
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SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
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It's not about price, it's about supply... Xiaomi is too nobady to get on the 660 wagon. Even bigger and more reputable players on the market have hard times to secure 660 from Qualcomm in quantities they need.
Yes! That's the biggest point, true.
The topper here is SD625+5000mAh phone.
The 626 will get better battery life at the expense of performance, like the Redmi Note 3 vs Note 4 Snapdragon variants. I guess most people won't be able to tell the performance difference but they can definitely tell battery life changes.
The great thing about the 650/652 is that it could be really fast if you wanted it or really efficient. The 615 and 626 don't have that ability because they don't have powerful A72 cores. The 660 would be the best but I doubt that will make it into a lot of phones as it could jeopardize flagship sales... Who needs the latest 8xx SoC when a 66x at half the price is good enough?
I have the 650 soc Max, using it as a mini tablet at home. If the Max 2 have richer duel speakers; better contrast screen and 660 soc. I will likely upgrade, otherwise the current Max is good enough.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 has been released.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 Smartphone Main Features:
Display: 6.44 Inch, 1920 x 1080
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 Octa Core
RAM + ROM: 4GB RAM + 128GB/64GB ROM
Camera: 5.0MP front camera + 12.0MP 5 element lens, f/2.0 aperture back camera
No Snapdragon 660, only 625
Battery is 5300mAh
http://en.miui.com/thread-617857-1-1.html
i can't believe it, snapdragon 650 to 625 is an upgrade???
it's a huge mistake and very disappointing
also i hoped for a better LCD which is the same
Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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Absolutely true Buddy! Let's upgrade next year when Max3 with possibly SD770 will be out.
Beat to attract new comers to huge screen phones not for an upgrade.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/22103...-1080p-display-5300mah-battery-announced.html
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Relieved to read the specs of this phone. No need to upgrade if you own a Max. On the contrary, buy one when the priced fall a bit as the Max 2 is released. It has a better SoC.

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