Hi All,
I'm very interested in the Moto G5 Plus, and I see that it already has Unlock Bootloader and Rooting threads, but I am looking to see whether or not tethering is a thing on Verizon G5 Plus. I would like to use my data plan but not have to pay extra for the hotspot.... they already gouge us on the price of the data plans...
It tied to your sim. So they will know you are using tethering.
903tex said:
It tied to your sim. So they will know you are using tethering.
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This is true, but in the past and even with the Moto Z Play Edition they had tethering enabled out of the box without the need for a separate hotspot data plan... That's more towards what I'm looking for in this phone.
its a combo of what services are tied to your sim, and what the phone supports.
you can root and enable it if you don't get it out of the box.
Karlinski said:
its a combo of what services are tied to your sim, and what the phone supports.
you can root and enable it if you don't get it out of the box.
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That's basically what I'm looking for... and since this phone already has root and bootloader unlock threads, I think I might be in the right area. lol
Thanks for the input.
Karlinski said:
its a combo of what services are tied to your sim, and what the phone supports.
you can root and enable it if you don't get it out of the box.
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I have not seen any root method on here for the US version. I believe the current root is for an Indian variant, I believe the XT1686. If I am wrong on this can you point me to a root method tutorial for the US XT1687. We just got this phone for my sister but I was holding off on rooting until a solid method was available with a non beta TWRP recovery built. Again if I am mistaken on this please point me in the right direction. Thanks.
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mchype said:
That's basically what I'm looking for... and since this phone already has root and bootloader unlock threads, I think I might be in the right area. lol
Thanks for the input.
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I'm quite positive this phone will support tethering without the provision you mention since this is not running Verizon branded firmware. Much the same as some of the older Verizon branded phones that could run a aftermarket ROM, which totally bypassed the provisioning flag that Verizon put in place. Furthermore if you are already on one of Verizon's newer rate plans, then tethering is supported by pretty much every phone they have without provisioning. I'll have my sister give tethering a shot and report back the results.
robn30 said:
I have not seen any root method on here for the US version. I believe the current root is for an Indian variant, I believe the XT1686. If I am wrong on this can you point me to a root method tutorial for the US XT1687. We just got this phone for my sister but I was holding off on rooting until a solid method was available with a non beta TWRP recovery built. Again if I am mistaken on this please point me in the right direction. Thanks.
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Out of curiosity, the current root thread here actually doesn't say any specific version... I've posted there looking for input, but I've read through the entire thread and can't find anything specific....
Please correct me if I'm totally missing where it indicates version (other than the screenshots clearly not being english... lol )
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I'm quite positive this phone will support tethering without the provision you mention since this is not running Verizon branded firmware. Much the same as some of the older Verizon branded phones that could run a aftermarket ROM, which totally bypassed the provisioning flag that Verizon put in place. Furthermore if you are already on one of Verizon's newer rate plans, then tethering is supported by pretty much every phone they have without provisioning. I'll have my sister give tethering a shot and report back the results.
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OK, sounds good. I received confirmation from someone on T-Mobile that it's not required for a mobile hotspot data plan.
I'm excited about Verizon though.
mchype said:
Out of curiosity, the current root thread here actually doesn't say any specific version... I've posted there looking for input, but I've read through the entire thread and can't find anything specific....
Please correct me if I'm totally missing where it indicates version (other than the screenshots clearly not being english... lol )
OK, sounds good. I received confirmation from someone on T-Mobile that it's not required for a mobile hotspot data plan.
I'm excited about Verizon though.
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As far as root goes, that post is made by a guy in Brazil and the links he provides are for videos by a guy in India. The US variant is different than the international versions. I wouldn't feel comfortable using that root method and messing something up since there has not been a recovery image released yet. Once you unlock and attempt to root, if it fails and you have no recovery image, you are hosed. I prefer not to soft brick my phone and make it unusable until someone provides a valid root method with recovery images. I personally own a Moto X Pure that is unlocked and rooted, but it is well documented unlike this brand new device.
Well, give it time guys, the device just came out. once everything is rooted and all, there will all sorts of mods
Karlinski said:
Well, give it time guys, the device just came out. once everything is rooted and all, there will all sorts of mods
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I agree, I'm in no rush at all, as I appreciate all the effort the Developers put into these devices. Most of it on their own time. I was just giving solid advice for rooting a device if you are a non developer like me. I can't afford to force the issue and mess up my phone with no way to restore it. I am glad to wait for a US version root method with a restore option. Hopefully that will be soon , if we are lucky.
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I agree, I'm in no rush at all, as I appreciate all the effort the Developers put into these devices. Most of it on their own time. I was just giving solid advice for rooting a device if you are a non developer like me. I can't afford to force the issue and mess up my phone with no way to restore it. I am glad to wait for a US version root method with a restore option. Hopefully that will be soon , if we are lucky.
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Lol, that is definitely true.
I'm just impatient and was hoping it was good... not "too good to be true" lol
robn30 said:
As far as root goes, that post is made by a guy in Brazil and the links he provides are for videos by a guy in India. The US variant is different than the international versions. I wouldn't feel comfortable using that root method and messing something up since there has not been a recovery image released yet. Once you unlock and attempt to root, if it fails and you have no recovery image, you are hosed. I prefer not to soft brick my phone and make it unusable until someone provides a valid root method with recovery images. I personally own a Moto X Pure that is unlocked and rooted, but it is well documented unlike this brand new device.
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I followed that root method on my US g5 plus and it worked fine. It's a solid method you just have to follow the instructions to a "T".
That's good to here but there still isn't any recovery files if something goes wrong. You rolled the dice and came out a winner, might not be the same for someone else. I'll wait until recovery images are available, especially since the phone isn't my own.
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If you can obtain root using the methods mentioned here (rooting requires an unlockable bootloader, and a voided warranty) you can add this to your build.prop:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
bob2600 said:
If you can obtain root using the methods mentioned here (rooting requires an unlockable bootloader, and a voided warranty) you can add this to your build.prop:
net.tethering.noprovisioning=true
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I have the EU/Intl version fully unlocked. I can tether with the hotspot using my tether allowance.
If I root my device and edit my build.prop as you've stated what exactly does this do?
Does it mean I can use the inbuilt hotspot/tethering function but instead of using my tether allowance it uses my mobile data?
Changing the build.prop allows you to tether if your verizon plan doesn't include tethering without a separate charge. Newer verizon plans have tethering included as part of your data (ie use it how you like)
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I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
aviwdoowks said:
I think SOL. Used? I do not think you can get the non 98.18.78 anymore.
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So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
DubleJayJ said:
So when I get it I won't be able to unlock it. Verizon..WHY DO YOU DO THIS...
What version did they patch the BL Unlock method? Cause when I get it I won't be OTA'ing. I will unlock this phone.
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You will most certainly be able to unlock the phone with the latest update using either cellzealots method or mine, but the bootloader will remain locked disabling the ability to use custom roms. If you get one on the 98.17.66 (?) Software your good to use Matt's Droid RAZR M Utility to unlock the bootloader yet so dont take the update, unlock the bl and do what youd like
DubleJayJ said:
I'm gonna be getting one as soon as my plan is up. I have a few questions though.
1. (Disregard this one. Didn't realize this was a Verizon exclusive.)
2. When I first get it should I OTA it, so it doesn't disable the possibility of unlocking it?
3. Is this phone supported by many developers?
If I think of any more, I'll post them. Thanks guys!
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Root works fine still using the RAZR M Utility
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stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
DubleJayJ said:
So if I do get this don't OTA it when it first arrives? I'm down to this phone or the HD
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right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
jco23 said:
right - do not accept the OTA if your baseband is prior to May 2013. if it reads May 2013, then you've already got the latest, and you're locked until someone really smart decides to crack it.
if you wanted to, go into the store, have them break out the device, and check the baseband.
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Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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Too bad you aren't closer to Reading, I could really use the business at my shop lol
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DubleJayJ said:
Closest one to me I think is down in Pittsburgh. Only a 30 minute drive, not too bad. I guess I could do that, if I decide to go with this. I'm either going with this, or the Razr HD.
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I have both to play with and I have to say I like the feel and size of the RAZR M moreso over the bulk of the HD. won over my Galaxy Nexus which hates me now lol
jco23 said:
stock, this phone is great (not sure about the latest release - although, I think it was just to enable a security patch to prevent folks from unlocking the device). so, essentially, if your version is prior to May 2013, then you'll be able to unlock with current methods - otherwise, you'll have to HOPE for someone to create a new method for unlocking or for the devs to make their ROMs flashable via safestrap.
I'm pretty sure you can still root though.
developer support is great (both kernels and ROMs).
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Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
braveally said:
Ok, as long as I can root. I think I can live without the custom ROMs... maybe. I plan to get one used, hopefully no OTA but whatever.
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Its a great little thing, I have people playing with them in my office all the time even my boss and hes an iFart lover
I have a Droid Maxx, and Razr Maxx HD and perhaps some beer cash for the answer to root...
I was thinking flashing twrp, then let it root, or am i way off or require an unlocked bootloader? I tried sunshine, but no go as it requires root.
So if i understand, you can get root without an unlocked bootloader, or is an unlocked bootloader a prerequisite of root? I am thinking not, but i am a Windows/SharePoint guy and pretty dumb to linux...
wrecklesswun said:
I have a Droid Maxx, and Razr Maxx HD and perhaps some beer cash for the answer to root...
I was thinking flashing twrp, then let it root, or am i way off or require an unlocked bootloader? I tried sunshine, but no go as it requires root.
So if i understand, you can get root without an unlocked bootloader, or is an unlocked bootloader a prerequisite of root? I am thinking not, but i am a Windows/SharePoint guy and pretty dumb to linux...
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You need an unlocked bootloader to flash TWRP (which flashes SuperSU). There is no known root method available yet because the phone has only been out for about 8 hours.
The Sunshine team has apparently said they will not be supporting Motorola devices for 4.4.4 in their 3.0 release, only HTC, so unlikely it will work there.
Has anyone tried Towelroot?
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Has anyone tried Towelroot?
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"this phone is not currently supported"
fury683 said:
(...)The Sunshine team has apparently said they will not be supporting Motorola devices for 4.4.4 in their 3.0 release, only HTC, so unlikely it will work there.
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I think they said the opposite: "Verizon users on 4.4.4 you will have to wait for the 3.0 release."
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I think they said the opposite: "Verizon users on 4.4.4 you will have to wait for the 3.0 release."
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Yes, that is in the website. Someone posted this in another thread here. There's no link to the OP so I'm not sure beyond what it says.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56389152&postcount=83
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Yes, that is in the website. Someone posted this in another thread here. There's no link to the OP so I'm not sure beyond what it says.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56389152&postcount=83
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Yeah, I found it in the meantime...
AndyMan386 said:
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Originally Posted by jcase
3.0 is ONLY addressing HTC devices at this time, we have no plans, at this time, to include Motorola for technical reasons
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I think they said the opposite: "Verizon users on 4.4.4 you will have to wait for the 3.0 release."
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Edit: here's the post from today. No dice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56383217&postcount=1445
Yeah, I didn't think I'd need root but the dpi on this thing is just way too high. For being such a great display it's hindered by the scaling. Easily fixed with root though!!
Found this on some Chinese site. If I had a backup phone I'd try it. But I don't. So can't risk bricking. Anyone else want to take a leap of faith? Ummm... Won't let me post the link because I'm still a noob apparently... So gonna try breaking it up. Just remove the line returns and spaces.
H t t p : //
m. romjd. com/
jiaocheng/
content/
10837
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Found this on some Chinese site. If I had a backup phone I'd try it. But I don't. So can't risk bricking. Anyone else want to take a leap of faith? Ummm... Won't let me post the link because I'm still a noob apparently... So gonna try breaking it up. Just remove the line returns and spaces.
H t t p : //
m. romjd. com/
jiaocheng/
content/
10837
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Don't know if I'm brave enough since I just picked mine up earlier today
Just got mine today so im hesitant to try it. Itching to get root and get a free wifi tether though. Ill think it over.
Here's the un-broken-up link just to make it easier.
http://m.romjd.com/jiaocheng/content/10837
Tempting.... Only issue I have is if it works, I have no way to unroot lol
man waiting for someone to try this and I will be first in line at my store to pick this phone up
Who will be the first brave soul?
Phone comes in tomorrow. I will try it then.
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Phone comes in tomorrow. I will try it then.
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Didn't work for me. Too be safe I used a virtual machine with a snap shot taken before installing so I can revert back without the risk of spyware. Also tried Kingo but no luck with either.
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Also vroot during the root attempt installs 2 apps on your phone and who knows what it installs on Windows without running a regmon, if you do decide to try it make sure you uninstall the 2 chinese apps when your done trying. Also like I mentioned above I would highly not to install vroot or Kingo on your daily driver windows machine. Leave the testing to people who have virtual machines they can install these apps on.
I have used vroot and kingo in the past to successfully root so I know they do/can work, they just haven't been updated yet to work on the Droid Turbo. Hopefully they will.
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Didn't work for me. Too be safe I used a virtual machine with a snap shot taken before installing so I can revert back without the risk of spyware. Also tried Kingo but no luck with either.
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Also vroot during the root attempt installs 2 apps on your phone and who knows what it installs on Windows without running a regmon, if you do decide to try it make sure you uninstall the 2 chinese apps when your done trying. Also like I mentioned above I would highly not to install vroot or Kingo on your daily driver windows machine. Leave the testing to people who have virtual machines they can install these apps on.
I have used vroot and kingo in the past to successfully root so I know they do/can work, they just haven't been updated yet to work on the Droid Turbo. Hopefully they will.
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Thanks for saving me the effort. I was just about to try it on a VM....
coreywallen said:
Just got mine today so im hesitant to try it. Itching to get root and get a free wifi tether though. Ill think it over.
Here's the un-broken-up link just to make it easier.
http://m.romjd.com/jiaocheng/content/10837
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Thanks for posting the unbroken link for me
Dang, you guys got my hopes up reading through this.
I keep checking the other Moto forums for root options. I'm banking on anything that will root a Moto 4.4.4 phone will work on ours. The Moto G 4.4.4 update has a later build date than our version.
Title says it all. Before flashing the download, take a look in your /cache folder and see if you can save it.
EDIT: Can you tether with your non verizon sim card?
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Title says it all. Before flashing the download, take a look in your /cache folder and see if you can save it.
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Or use adb and grab a logcat.
The update has already been posted as the soak. Now a full files are needed for mofo to be tested.
And I was happy to have that soak file, Shane!
No problem. Now I think if someone who has taken the update did a system pull of 5.1 I think that'd be helpful for the developers. You might need root for that though :/ I can't quite remember
We need the FXZ in order to get the full system.img to use with mofo. Right now the OTA only patches the existing one.
Why not just use the soak? Same build
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Slack3r said:
We need the FXZ in order to get the full system.img to use with mofo. Right now the OTA only patches the existing one.
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Yes but our copies of MoFo won't work if you upgrade the bootloader on your device.
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Yes but our copies of MoFo won't work if you upgrade the bootloader on your device.
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Yeah
My current plan is to flash everything except motoboot.img and gpt.bin from the new update and see if it boots in order to preserve the ability to root. I've been checking MDM (finally got it to work!) though and they haven't pushed it out yet.
I hope mofo gets working with 5.1
I'm dying to try it, but I need tether now that I have it.
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My current plan is to flash everything except motoboot.img and gpt.bin from the new update and see if it boots in order to preserve the ability to root.
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Me too but I hope that the boot.img will flash with the 5.0 bootloader and partition table not upgraded.
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I've been checking MDM (finally got it to work!) though and they haven't pushed it out yet.
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Just be careful, because the minute MDM downloads and then uncompresses the files, it starts to install them on your device. If you disconnect your device from your computer during the download, I am pretty sure that MDM just stops.
The reason Im dying for root now, is that before when I had my ATT sim card, I could tether just fine, was enabled and everything, without root. As long as I didnt run a verizon sim I could tether. Now, it stops at communicating with server. I dont understand why they would now block other carriers tethering as well. This was the reason I didnt care much about root, was I figured I would be unaffected. Am I ever regretting buying a verizon device. Never again.
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The reason Im dying for root now, is that before when I had my ATT sim card, I could tether just fine, was enabled and everything, without root. As long as I didnt run a verizon sim I could tether. Now, it stops at communicating with server. I dont understand why they would now block other carriers tethering as well. This was the reason I didnt care much about root, was I figured I would be unaffected. Am I ever regretting buying a verizon device. Never again.
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So when you put an AT&T SIM in a Verizon Moto X 2014 running 5.1 it won't tether on AT&T? But it would tether on AT&T on 5.0 with tethering enabled? What AT&T plan are you on?
Have you tried the app HotSpot Control?
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So when you put an AT&T SIM in a Verizon Moto X 2014 running 5.1 it won't tether on AT&T? But it would tether on AT&T on 5.0 with tethering enabled? What AT&T plan are you on?
Have you tried the app HotSpot Control?
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Correct, it will not tether on other networks now. I have a Straight talk ATT sim. LTE / HSPA+ I have not tried it, but I will as long as I can without root
d33dvb said:
I have a Straight talk ATT sim. LTE / HSPA+ I have not tried it, but I will as long as I can without root
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I think this is one of the issues with using Verizon devices on GSM carriers. The build.prop file is set up for Verizon, not the other carrier's system.
If the bootloader is unlocked then you can mess around with the Verizon settings.
With iPhones, Apple can control Verizon but with Androids, Verizon controls the phone manufacturers and gets them to do things Verizon's way. If you can unlock the bootloader, you can take control back. If not, then you are at the mercy of Verizon and their policies.
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I think this is one of the issues with using Verizon devices on GSM carriers. The build.prop file is set up for Verizon, not the other carrier's system.
If the bootloader is unlocked then you can mess around with the Verizon settings.
With iPhones, Apple can control Verizon but with Androids, Verizon controls the phone manufacturers and gets them to do things Verizon's way. If you can unlock the bootloader, you can take control back. If not, then you are at the mercy of Verizon and their policies.
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I did try chainfires hotspot control and still no luck. Such a bummer. Makes me want to go back to my moto g with cm12
d33dvb said:
I did try chainfires hotspot control and still no luck. Such a bummer. Makes me want to go back to my moto g with cm12
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Hopefully maiko1 will be able to crack the 5.1 bootloader.
I too have learned my lesson with these locked down tight phones. I bought my Moto X 2014 on Cyber Monday but it sat unused until April when we got MoFo. I can't live w/o tethering so I will never buy another Verizon phone until a root method exists that can give me free tether. The problem is that it is getting harder and harder for the devs to find ways to do that. I really want to stick with Motorola but if there is no Dev Ed for the MX15, then I won't get it. I worry that there won't be any other options though.
d33dvb said:
Correct, it will not tether on other networks now. I have a Straight talk ATT sim. LTE / HSPA+ I have not tried it, but I will as long as I can without root
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I still confused. So, if I have ATT phone (locked bootloader) on T-Mobile network, will tethering be working if I update to 5.1? I am on KK 4.4.4 now and tethering works with no issues.
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I still confused. So, if I have ATT phone (locked bootloader) on T-Mobile network, will tethering be working if I update to 5.1? I am on KK 4.4.4 now and tethering works with no issues.
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I was able to tether an ATT sim on 5.0, updated to 5.1 OTA and now cannot.
Im on 5.1 and i could tether just fine! I have T-Mobile. Maybe if you disable as many Verizon apps as you can it could work? (and clear their data) That's what I did.
dear all
I need to root this phone , how to do so.
ahmad83it said:
dear all
I need to root this phone , how to do so.
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If you are on the OE1 or OG5 builds you cannot root. You are stuck.
so , how to unlock the hotspot wifi
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If you are on the OE1 or OG5 builds you cannot root. You are stuck.
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Is this answer really supposed to help him. I have 2 questions
1. Will this build ever be able to be rooted ?
2. If so do I wait . Is it close to beta ?
For now all I know is you have to downgrade from lolipop 5.0 to kitkat 4 4.4 . I am unsure of any advantages besides aesthetics for doing so.
When answering my questions I would like to know any information possible
This answer will make a difference in what phone a guy purchases
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Is this answer really supposed to help him. I have 2 questions
1. Will this build ever be able to be rooted ?
2. If so do I wait . Is it close to beta ?
For now all I know is you have to downgrade from lolipop 5.0 to kitkat 4 4.4 . I am unsure of any advantages besides aesthetics for doing so.
When answering my questions I would like to know any information possible
This answer will make a difference in what phone a guy purchases
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That answer really is supposed to help him because it's the only answer there is right now. Now to answer your two questions:
1. I've always heard that you should never say never, but it is highly likely the OE1, OG5 and any later builds will never be rooted.
2. See #1
The OE1 and OG5 builds cannot be downgraded to kitkat, which is why they cannot be rooted right now. If someone is interested in rooting and running custom ROMs, Verizon phones are not the way to go right now with only a few exceptions (Nexus 6 being one of those exceptions.)
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ahmad83it said:
so , how to unlock the hotspot wifi
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I don't think it can be done, but you should look through the titles of the threads in the general and Q&A sections to see if any of them deal specifically with the WiFi tether on the OE1 or OG5 builds.
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That answer really is supposed to help him because it's the only answer there is right now. Now to answer your two questions:
1. I've always heard that you should never say never, but it is highly likely the OE1, OG5 and any later builds will never be rooted.
2. See #1
The OE1 and OG5 builds cannot be downgraded to kitkat, which is why they cannot be rooted right now. If someone is interested in rooting and running custom ROMs, Verizon phones are not the way to go right now with only a few exceptions (Nexus 6 being one of those exceptions.)
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I don't think it can be done, but you should look through the titles of the threads in the general and Q&A sections to see if any of them deal specifically with the WiFi tether on the OE1 or OG5 builds.
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I see . So the got makes them unlock their phones so they hard code blocked access. Anyone have the source code for this one or is it hardware locked
What a completely useless thread. You can't even search...
ldeveraux said:
What a completely useless thread. You can't even search...
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I search . I hope your not talking to me French moulan
...sigh........No, ldeveraux, this is NOT a useless thread. In fact, according to my research, this thread may just contain the key for the entire non-Google Android privileged code development community. Here is why I think so.
ahmad83it wrote on 28th August 2015, 07:06 PM:
"...so , how to unlock the hotspot wifi..."
This is AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT QUESTION. You all may be thinking that I'm the only one with this issue. NOT. Here's a perfect example of what I'm talking about:
http://developer.samsung.com/forum/board/thread/view.do?boardName=GeneralB&messageId=178834
This developer had to root his phone to test and debug privileged code. That was in 2012. But nowadays:
- We know that the publicly available retail editions of Verizon Samsung devices are protected with qfuse-enhanced, signed, locked bootloaders. Any attempt to change the core system code in these devices, even by a Google certified developer (which I am), will trip a qfuse and brick the device.
- We know that the publicly available developer editions of LTE-enabled Samsung devices have unlocked, unprotected bootloaders - but they also are NOT configured for any LTE carrier, so you cannot get online via an LTE protocol (3G, 4G) with these devices. Therefore, privileged code or not, one CANNOT write code that communicates online through LTE protocols that will work. This includes code that communicates with web services, CDNs, online databases, and cloud-based services.
Now...landshark68 wrote: "...I don't think [enabling WIFI connectivity] can be done, but you should look through the titles of the threads in the general and Q&A sections to see if any of them deal specifically with the WiFi tether on the OE1 or OG5 builds..."
This is a critical point. Given my information that I outlined above, based on my research, the ONLY way that a 3rd party developer - in other words, a developer that is not an employee of Verizon or Google - can test and debug privileged code and/or code that communicates with the internet, on a genuine Samsung device, is on a developer edition of the device WITH WIFI ENABLED.
I have emailed a member of the Samsung security team, explaining this issue. Hopefully, an answer will come from it.
No, John Bonifas. What ahmad is referring to is the wifi hotspot tether hack that allows you to use your phone as a wifi hotspot without Verizon realizing it. It is also the wifi hotspot tether hack that allows users who have maintained their unlimited data package to use the wifi hotspot tether, since Verizon does not allow them to use the wifi hotspot tether. Your device has to be rooted in order to use the wifi hotspot tether hack. Has nothing to do with a developer trying to test and debug code.
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No, John Bonifas.
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OK...[using the forum search feature multiple times before asking question]
nope, didn't find it.
Can the developer edition of a Samsung device be WIFI enabled? Not the hotspot...just plain WIFI connectivity...?
:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
John Bonifas said:
(...)Can the developer edition of a Samsung device be WIFI enabled? Not the hotspot...just plain WIFI connectivity...?(...)
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Yes, WiFi should be working no issue. If it doesn't work you may have a mismatch between your ROM and the Modem and NON-HLOS partitions. Try to re-flash the whole system without the bootloader and without the recovery, like this one I made for myself: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62346228&postcount=2
yes , I meant enabling the hotspot or tethering for wifi , I searched before posting this I haven't found anything useful so anybody have solution
big thanks for anybody tried to help
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if you want you could use the hotspot with foxfi it creates a hotspot its an app
ldeveraux said:
What a completely useless thread. You can't even search...
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This is the second thread I have seen you flaming members. You sir should go outside and interact with people in real life... I think you would either become a better person or .... Well basically talk that way to someone's face kid.
Veid71 said:
if you want you could use the hotspot with foxfi it creates a hotspot its an app
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I was under impression that foxfi can be used on rooted phones only...
Please advise...
vadim_se said:
I was under impression that foxfi can be used on rooted phones only...
Please advise...
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Hello,
Foxfi can be used with an unrooted Verizon Galaxy S5 as this is my only solution for my wife's phone.
phonefreedom said:
Hello,
Foxfi can be used with an unrooted Verizon Galaxy S5 as this is my only solution for my wife's phone.
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I'm sure there are other apps just Google it
I'm satisfied with this phone for the most part. From what I've read so far, getting this phone rooted seems out of the question. Just what can you do, if anything, as far as customizing your phone like what's possible with Xposed (or even Gravitybox)? I'd prefer not flashing if the rom isn't rooted.
Any suggestions or answers?
Thanks!
PBMaxx said:
I'm satisfied with this phone for the most part. From what I've read so far, getting this phone rooted seems out of the question. Just what can you do, if anything, as far as customizing your phone like what's possible with Xposed (or even Gravitybox)? I'd prefer not flashing if the rom isn't rooted.
Any suggestions or answers?
Thanks!
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Unfortunately for the xt1609 you can only use the stock rom as there is no root method for it. You cannot flash any custom roms or recoveries or use xposed.
Stuck with stock.
classic757 said:
Unfortunately for the xt1609 you can only use the stock rom as there is no root method for it. You cannot flash any custom roms or recoveries or use xposed.
Stuck with stock.
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There acually may be a way... if someone thinks hard enough about it, like with the Desire 526 Verizon model. If enough Devs and Senoir members get together, it can be done, nothing is impossible hardware wise
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Unfortunately for the xt1609 you can only use the stock rom as there is no root method for it. You cannot flash any custom roms or recoveries or use xposed.
Stuck with stock.
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Voltz100999 said:
There acually may be a way... if someone thinks hard enough about it, like with the Desire 526 Verizon model. If enough Devs and Senoir members get together, it can be done, nothing is impossible hardware wise
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@classic757 statement was true when posted and remains so today. Finding a root solution (identifying a vulnerability and then developing a viable exploit to leverage it) has nothing to do with hardware unique to the G4P XT1609 varient. It is hard (increasingly unsucessful) work that fails to attract the critical mass needed to mount a coordinated effort. The puny market for this model almost guarantees no such effort will be undertaken.
If you truely want/need root consider a XT1607 which is bootloader unlockable and works fine with CDMA networks (specifically Verizon).
Davey126 said:
@classic757 statement was true when posted and remains so today. Finding a root solution (identifying a vulnerability and then developing a viable exploit to leverage it) has nothing to do with hardware unique to the G4P XT1609 varient. It is hard (increasingly unsucessful) work that fails to attract the critical mass needed to mount a coordinated effort. The puny market for this model almost guarantees no such effort will be undertaken.
If you truely want/need root consider a XT1607 which is bootloader unlockable and works fine with CDMA networks (specifically Verizon).
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Well, as soon as I get $140, ill give it a go, but until then, ill just have to wait.
Voltz100999 said:
Well, as soon as I get $140, ill give it a go, but until then, ill just have to wait.
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Actually, all you need is $100. The G4 Play unlocked xt1607 is on sale at B&H through tomorrow 6-23-17 for $100. If you want it now's a great time to purchase it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Deal...for-just-100-32-off-its-regular-price_id95252
classic757 said:
Actually, all you need is $100. The G4 Play unlocked xt1607 is on sale at B&H through tomorrow 6-23-17 for $100. If you want it now's a great time to purchase it.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Deal...for-just-100-32-off-its-regular-price_id95252
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I got it to root with @utoprime's method. and i am now enjoying that as a result.
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Locked bootloader and all. Here is the method
https://twitter.com/utoprime