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I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to the OTA 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
nexxusty said:
I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
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knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
jaythenut said:
knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
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Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Yes your be fine but you will loose root
nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Also, any idea how to reset the flash counter after flashing 4.4.2? Or will it be ok considering I only rooted?
Not sure on this either.
jaythenut said:
Yes your be fine but you will loose root
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NP losing root.
Thanks!
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
nexxusty said:
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
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No issues, back to Official status.
I actually have major flashlighting on the left side of my screen. Only visible with white is anywhere BUT the left side of the screen (Best way I can explain it). Anyone know if Samsung will repair this?
Not interested in defective hardware, it's obvious this Note 3 is a one off and needs a new screen. Hoping Samsung is not going to deny me.
Just need to pick up my replacement HTC One on my actual plan (Bought this one straight up, HTC One I had was lost, have insurance.).
REALLY would like to know about the flash counter before I send this off. It has been rooted with Root De La Whatever it is (LOL) then unrooted via SuperSU, then I Odin'd the 4.4.2 update. There was a checkbox ticked called "F.Reset Time", is that it?
I'll look a bit before making my own thread on this one if no has a quick answer.
Thanks again, XDA never lets me down.
Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?
Arjoni said:
Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?
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1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
AIkizov said:
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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Yes absolutely a problem. I forgot to mention it. If any unofficial stuff is flashed then this knox pox is triggered.
Mandark52 said:
1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.
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you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours
andyjg247 said:
Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.
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Mandark52 said:
First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.
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AIkizov said:
I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours
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i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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your warranty will void
AIkizov said:
your warranty will void
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so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-
Arjoni said:
so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-
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have the ability to format, but the stock rom allows do not have permission to freely manipulate software - Void your warranty
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.
Mandark52 said:
As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.
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Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates
AIkizov said:
Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates
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As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.
Mandark52 said:
As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.
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now just talking about root that does not alter Recoverу
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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If your warranty will be void depends strongly on in which country you live. There is no yes or no answer.
Flash anything but an official Samsung package through Odin and it will trigger the Knox flag and change the device status to Custom. OTA updates will stop.
Re flashing an official Samsung package afterwards will change the device back to Official and OTA updates will resume. But the Knox flag will still show as triggered. Theres no way to reset it.
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Hello,
I know my question is a little bit awkward but I want to brick my S6 Edge Plus. I'm not root, so I can't erase some sys files.
Do you know a way to brick it ?
Thanks in advance,
adunaph3l said:
Hello,
I know my question is a little bit awkward but I want to brick my S6 Edge Plus. I'm not root, so I can't erase some sys files.
Do you know a way to brick it ?
Thanks in advance,
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Why?
"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"
Sent from my G928C powered by Audax+Rom&Eladios themes
It's a matter of warranty, I need to brick it in order to make the warranty work (my phone is frozen, need an exchange). I have several bugs (sometimes the mic is working, sometimes it's the BT), but I think they will refuse an swap if after a reboot the phone is working fine.
So I need to brick it (so when they will reboot the phone it will hang), and then the warranty will applied.
adunaph3l said:
It's a matter of warranty, I need to brick it in order to make the warranty work (my phone is frozen, need an exchange). I have several bugs (sometimes the mic is working, sometimes it's the BT), but I think they will refuse an swap if after a reboot the phone is working fine.
So I need to brick it (so when they will reboot the phone it will hang), and then the warranty will applied.
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Download another firmware in sammobile and install with odin. Example if your model is 928f you can put 928g of c and that brick your phone.
But flashing a different firmware doesn't trip the knoxx counter or the warranty one ?
adunaph3l said:
But flashing a different firmware doesn't trip the knoxx counter or the warranty one ?
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Sammobile firmwares are stocks and don't trip knox. But you can wait for someone nows more.
jah2110 said:
Sammobile firmwares are stocks and don't trip knox. But you can wait for someone nows more.
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I dont think this is correct, i remember reading a thread about flashing stock firmware over a phone with carrier specific firmware (to get rid of all the bloatware) and that knox would still be tripped
try to reflash your firmware and remove usb cable halfway in the process of flashing. =) complete brick, but they will just reflash it on service center, they will not replace it unless its a hardware issue
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I have heard that magisk versions above v12 can do it but never tried eventually so if you know if it can or something that can root without tripping knox please tell me.
and one more question does Kingroot trip knox. I dont want to root with Kingroot but yea...
There is no way to root without tripping Knox.
Magisk can hide knox counter from apps, but it cannot reset the counter, nor can it root without tripping it.
Kingroot will trip it as well.
Kingroot won't work for s8.
You can root then set knox to 0x0 on the PHONE only. Download mode will still show 0x1 and knox tripped.
Only thing you lose rooting is Samsung pay. And maybe warranty depending on region.
callumbr1 said:
Kingroot won't work for s8.
You can root then set knox to 0x0 on the PHONE only. Download mode will still show 0x1 and knox tripped.
Only thing you lose rooting is Samsung pay. And maybe warranty depending on region.
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if you have vodafone insurance tripping know will invalidate your claim.
djisgod said:
if you have vodafone insurance tripping know will invalidate your claim.
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I insure through protect your bubble or EE. They have always fixed or repaired my rooted phones. Just restored before hand. Crappy of Vodafone to do that haha
Skander1998 said:
Magisk can hide knox counter from apps, but it cannot reset the counter, nor can it root without tripping it.
Kingroot will trip it as well.
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yeah I thats what I thought. I dont even know if I want to root it for now.. Like it already has alot of features and there aren't that much you can do with root for the S8.. yea you can install roms or stuff but i like the stock rom.
callumbr1 said:
Kingroot won't work for s8.
You can root then set knox to 0x0 on the PHONE only. Download mode will still show 0x1 and knox tripped.
Only thing you lose rooting is Samsung pay. And maybe warranty depending on region.
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Actually Kingroot started to download something when I hit Root soo I guess it works and I don't even use samsung pay my country doesn't support it.
detailed_ said:
Actually Kingroot started to download something when I hit Root soo I guess it works and I don't even use samsung pay my country doesn't support it.
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Yeah it will always start on all devices, then most likely fail around 40%. Only phone I ever got to work with kingroot was an old alcatel pixi.
There's a few advantages of rooting s8 but depends what you use root for. If you do want to root I suggest TWRP and magisk.
Hello guys,
i have got new toy (SG8) and looking to root it without tripping Knox. Before, i had Nexus device and it was super easy to root. Please do let me know if there is a way, thanks,
zaffar.mughal said:
Hello guys,
i have got new toy (SG8) and looking to root it without tripping Knox. Before, i had Nexus device and it was super easy to root. Please do let me know if there is a way, thanks,
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no way.
all method tripping knox
zaffar.mughal said:
Hello guys,
i have got new toy (SG8) and looking to root it without tripping Knox. Before, i had Nexus device and it was super easy to root. Please do let me know if there is a way, thanks,
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What model? G950F/FD? G950U? There is a very simple way to root G950U/G950W devices already in existence. It's called SamFail and is listed with an accompanying rom in the threads section.
khaled147 said:
no way.
all method tripping knox
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False. See above.
partcyborg said:
What model? G950F/FD? G950U? There is a very simple way to root G950U/G950W devices already in existence. It's called SamFail and is listed with an accompanying rom in the threads section.
False. See above.
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What about the Exynos G950F?
chr0m said:
What about the Exynos G950F?
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Sadly, currently there is no way of rooting Exynos S8 without tripping knox..
Unfortunately as mentioned above and beyond there is no way currently without tripping Knox. Sadly, I use Samsung Pay alot and like the idea of keeping that option hence no rooting as long as this device is my DD.
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A question if anyone can help me.
I really need to Root my Galaxy S8 (SM-G950F) cause i need to try to recover some photos and most apps to recover need the root done.
I know that root trips Knox, but if i install an official firmware after been tripped, will phone get back to normal, or it will tripped forever??
Thanks
MeGaBeSuNTa said:
A question if anyone can help me.
I really need to Root my Galaxy S8 (SM-G950F) cause i need to try to recover some photos and most apps to recover need the root done.
I know that root trips Knox, but if i install an official firmware after been tripped, will phone get back to normal, or it will tripped forever??
Thanks
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It physically trips knox warranty, so if it’s tripped once, you can’t recover it unless you replace motherboard.
blackbox0209 said:
It physically trips knox warranty, so if it’s tripped once, you can’t recover it unless you replace motherboard.
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But once I install an official firmware, I will be able to use Knox and Samsung pay again?
Thanks
MeGaBeSuNTa said:
But once I install an official firmware, I will be able to use Knox and Samsung pay again?
Thanks
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Nope, you won't be able to use it again, even after you install an official firmware afterwards.