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Noticed changes in DL30

I don’t see a thread like this so I would like to start one
I have noticed a ton of changes in the stock DL30 build and there are still some i probably haven’t ran into yet. I think it would be fun to see what changes people have noticed. . I know a lot of these are in the original leak thread but that thread is too saturated with questions and issues people are having.
I would kind of like to keep it clean so I would like to see lists of changes only and not a ton of questions.
I will start off with a few things I have noticed so far. I have left out some of the obvious things that comes with froyo but feel free to add them if you wish
-Facebook syncs contacts automatically. No need to get friends and then check the ones you want from Facebook
-You can now manually join contacts. Maybe you could do this before?
-You can now use custom ringtones for contacts that aren’t local on the phone
-You can use media files for ringtones
-Can now use multiple exchange accounts
-Can now use out of office for exchange accounts
-Can use pin unlock even though it doesn’t work because it says you need a symbol
-New theme which I actually like.
-Has new e-mail and text counts on the Touch wiz icons
-Can use media or voice tones for alarm
-The sliding thingy when you are typing, makes it much easier to correct spelling mistakes
-Can change fonts
-Media hub added
-Includes Samsung keyboard which I prefer over the others now
-Dock now works!

Only thing I don't like is that you have to enable background data in order to do anything related to data. Never had to do that before.

Anyone got yahoo email setup on the new DL30? I tried to read email (HTML based) from like amazon and other spam I usually get and now it say message too long, cant not display.
Anyone getting that too?

Font changer
No google maps originally
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Pinch to view home screens.
Email count on the home screen is awesome....
jv

Few things I noticed so far:
For exchange accounts it lets you choose seperate peak and off peak sync times which is cool.
The notifications has an auto-rotation on/off button along with your wifi, bt etc. But it doesn't really work with your homescreens unless you install laungher pro or something.
Signal strength has definitely increased.
Also, after I got DL30, I was asked to update camera firmware, and that added a couple of minor changes to camera.

Also forgot to mention that while in Car or Desk cradle the home screen now is landscape. Also when you get calls when on either the call screen is landscape!!! can you say "Awesome"!!!!
jv

And I am sure everyone is dying to know this, they replaced blockbuster with media hub.

Couple of things, keep in mind I was rooted running a custom ROM previously and now have LP running:
1. I like the changes to gmail (I was used to 2.2 gmail from my droid, took me a sec to figure where the send button moved to)
2. For whatever reason, after flashing and restoring apps with Titanium, I was debinged, however, that applies to voice search and all functions of the car dock aside from basic search. Hence, none of those functions work (voice search, navigation, maps. Not a deal breaker..just an observation.
3. The battery icon seems likes it's not even tied to the actual charge amount. Again..no big deal, I use simi clock and I check my battery there.
4. Gallery renders FAST..
5. Market still on old version...hasn't updated yet.
Haven't had a chance to really check any flash websites but will get around to it.

Issue with back button from contacts
Has anyone else had the back button stop working when in contacts?
It worked fine when I first got done with the update, then sometime after sync of facebook it stopped working. Not sure if that was the cause but something made it stop.

Be sure to open up the camera app. New firmware there.

I also noticed some of the bloat apps I had to remove when I first got my phone are gone. CityID immediately comes to mind (which I thought was the worst thing ever!), but I also noticed the Kindle app is missing and someone already mentioned Blockbuster. I thought they were more, but my memory is escaping me now.
The stock music player is also different, but this is my first Android device and thus first experience with 2.2, so this might just be a froyo thing. When I'm playing music and turn the screen off, when I turn it back on to the lock screen, there's a piece of CD hanging from the top of the screen. This can be pulled down to control the music. I never noticed this before, but I also may have never used the music player with the puzzle lock screen. Anyway, it's a cool feature that I dig. If I change to the AOSP lock screen (which I like way more than the puzzle lock), will this feature still be present?

I found a workaround for the Exchange pin issue.
If you setup a PIN before you setup your Exchange account from settings-> location & security-> screen unlock, it will work. You'll still see the message about device security needing to be setup at first but it will start syncing and not ask again.
Hope this helps!
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wideopn11 said:
Has anyone else had the back button stop working when in contacts?
It worked fine when I first got done with the update, then sometime after sync of facebook it stopped working. Not sure if that was the cause but something made it stop.
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same here!

flushd said:
I found a workaround for the Exchange pin issue.
If you setup a PIN before you setup your Exchange account from settings-> location & security-> screen unlock, it will work. You'll still see the message about device security needing to be setup at first but it will start syncing and not ask again.
Hope this helps!
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Thank you, thank you, and thank you!
This was the main thing that bugged me on this rom and i was able to get around it. If you have the security policies already pushed you can go into Device administrator and remove the one for your exchange account, then go change your PIN, after a while your e-mail account will tell you that you need to enable the security policy again.
Thanks again!

CDODGE said:
Thank you, thank you, and thank you!
This was the main thing that bugged me on this rom and i was able to get around it. If you have the security policies already pushed you can go into Device administrator and remove the one for your exchange account, then go change your PIN, after a while your e-mail account will tell you that you need to enable the security policy again.
Thanks again!
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Glad this worked for you. As an Exchange Administrator and user, this is one of the best features of Froyo!!! No more full keyboard to enter PIN.

shdowman said:
Couple of things, keep in mind I was rooted running a custom ROM previously and now have LP running:
1. I like the changes to gmail (I was used to 2.2 gmail from my droid, took me a sec to figure where the send button moved to)
2. For whatever reason, after flashing and restoring apps with Titanium, I was debinged, however, that applies to voice search and all functions of the car dock aside from basic search. Hence, none of those functions work (voice search, navigation, maps. Not a deal breaker..just an observation.
3. The battery icon seems likes it's not even tied to the actual charge amount. Again..no big deal, I use simi clock and I check my battery there.
4. Gallery renders FAST..
5. Market still on old version...hasn't updated yet.
Haven't had a chance to really check any flash websites but will get around to it.
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3. Yeah I noticed that also. It was showing all blue but when I go into settings it shows battery at 80%. Oh well.
5. Must have just updated Market because I went in a few minutes ago and it's showing the newest one.
Love this new update.
jv

How can you tell if its the new market? What changed? Also, tried some web sites for flash but doesnt want to play. I'll have to try with a different browser.

beeblebrux said:
I also noticed some of the bloat apps I had to remove when I first got my phone are gone. CityID immediately comes to mind (which I thought was the worst thing ever!), but I also noticed the Kindle app is missing and someone already mentioned Blockbuster. I thought they were more, but my memory is escaping me now.
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Yup, CityID, Blockbuster, Kindle, the demos for Need for Speed and Tetris and a few others.
I'm wondering if this was an early version of 2.2, before they had a chance to add all that crap in. Would be nice if Verizon listened to their customers and actually choose to leave that stuff out in 2.2.

you have to go to the market and download adobe flash player 10.1
i have noticed SIGNIFICANT battery/signal strength increase.. I was barely able to get 16 hours out of my battery before and now mines been on for 14 hours and its still at 60 percent.. my time without a signal was at like 30% on DL09 or DJ05 and now its at 4% without a signal. much more memory available.. could be because im using super clean tho..

[Q] Air View broken in stock email app

So this is a weird little issue that started yesterday, same day I got my S4. Air View works fine for every app but the email app. Instead of the full text, I just see this chopped off little text bubble (see attachment). It happens on either of the two email accounts I have in the app, one exchange, one aol (yes, I am ashamed). Already tried to remove both the accounts, clear the app cache, clear app data, then re-add the accounts. Same thing. Wondering if anyone has seen this issue yet or if it's just me.
S4 is stock, no root, no nothing. Had already installed all apps and changed my launcher before the issue started. Can't think of anything off the top of my head that I changed directly before I noticed the problem. Any help would be appreciated, I get a lot of emails and would love to have this working again.

magnumburst said:
So this is a weird little issue that started yesterday, same day I got my S4. Air View works fine for every app but the email app. Instead of the full text, I just see this chopped off little text bubble (see attachment). It happens on either of the two email accounts I have in the app, one exchange, one aol (yes, I am ashamed). Already tried to remove both the accounts, clear the app cache, clear app data, then re-add the accounts. Same thing. Wondering if anyone has seen this issue yet or if it's just me.
S4 is stock, no root, no nothing. Had already installed all apps and changed my launcher before the issue started. Can't think of anything off the top of my head that I changed directly before I noticed the problem. Any help would be appreciated, I get a lot of emails and would love to have this working again.
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it took a bit of time to get used to.....have you try to disable and reenable the airview option in settings?
my video application did that one or twice......all i did was reenabling it again....and now its working....

Ambrosios said:
it took a bit of time to get used to.....have you try to disable and reenable the airview option in settings?
my video application did that one or twice......all i did was reenabling it again....and now its working....
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Yeah I did, but I found out what was actually causing it. I was using Light Flow for my notifications and didn't know about the existing issues when you enable it in the accessibility options.
FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW about the problem caused, basically there is a known glitch when you try to turn on Light Flow under the accessibility options. It will try to turn on TalkBack, but only some of the TalkBack functions work, which made it hard to diagnose. Turning on TalkBack, disabling all the settings, and turning it back off won't help, neither will disabling the app. Since TalkBack disables settings such as Air View, some of the functionality is lost when you turn the settings back on. The author of Light Flow knows about the issue and is trying to work on it according to an in app message I glazed over the first time. In the meantime, plenty of other notifications still work if you don't turn on accessibility.
Thanks for the response though, hopefully this info will help others.

I have the exact same issue, except light flow isn't installed. Any other ideas?

Anyone have any ideas?

Tripledrop said:
I have the exact same issue, except light flow isn't installed. Any other ideas?
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Could you have something else installed that's causing the issue? I would disable it, reboot, and try again.

I suppose there's always the possibility something else is effecting it, but unsure what! Tried what you suggested and still not working

The way I fixed the talkback issue was to freeze both Google and Samsung text-to-speech in titanium backup.
I've still never seen air view work anywhere but in the browser though. Maybe there is a setting buried somewhere, I only discovered yesterday that the toggles in motion and gestures settings also have sub-menus with settings for individual features (and also when you tap a feature name and then 'try it' there can be more settings like sensitivity for motion zoom and pan).

Do any of you have a pebble? That'd s what was causing the issue for me. Basically if if talkback is being utilized, airview will not work.
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magnumburst said:
So this is a weird little issue that started yesterday, same day I got my S4. Air View works fine for every app but the email app. Instead of the full text, I just see this chopped off little text bubble (see attachment). It happens on either of the two email accounts I have in the app, one exchange, one aol (yes, I am ashamed). Already tried to remove both the accounts, clear the app cache, clear app data, then re-add the accounts. Same thing. Wondering if anyone has seen this issue yet or if it's just me.
S4 is stock, no root, no nothing. Had already installed all apps and changed my launcher before the issue started. Can't think of anything off the top of my head that I changed directly before I noticed the problem. Any help would be appreciated, I get a lot of emails and would love to have this working again.
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I am using LG Tone+ wireless headphone with n9005 and because I enabled its application in the accessibility options, this error happened to me.
Please check any application that might be installed and enabled under the services under accessibility options and disable/ enable until you find the one that causes this problem.
Hope this would help.
btw, thanks guys for the tip, it gave me the idea

mofahmy said:
I am using LG Tone+ wireless headphone with n9005 and because I enabled its application in the accessibility options, this error happened to me.
Please check any application that might be installed and enabled under the services under accessibility options and disable/ enable until you find the one that causes this problem.
Hope this would help.
btw, thanks guys for the tip, it gave me the idea
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Thanks mofahmy, but you'll see that I figured this out months ago. Also a note for any Light Flow users still having the issue, newer versions of Light Flow and GS4 roms have fixed the glitch.

Whatsapp notification woes driving me crazy!

So after being a long time apple user and long time iTunes hater ... I managed to sell my iphone 4 and bought a samsung galaxy S4, did the same for my other half...
Keep in mind, this is a brand new, no-root, default phone.
The issue basically is notifications, for whatsapp ( at the moment since I haven't set up anything else that requires push, besides gmail). The issue is once I turned the screen off, either manually or by itself. whatsapp notifications randomly stop arriving until I turned on the screen, completely close the app and open it again, the same goes for 2 other devices ( 3 in total), this happens with wifi or mobile data
Device #1. new s4,
Device #2 new s4
Device #3 Samsung galaxy young running 4.1.2 JB.
Now, device #3 belongs to a friend of mine who told of these issues a couple of months ago, however I did pay attention as I just figured it was network connection or wifi or whatever be it.
I've googled the hell out of this and it is apparently an android issue:
it's not telco related in my case, because i had NO ISSUES on my iphone 4 nor my best half's 4s.
Anyway, hopefully someone here has been through something similar and been able to fix it? I've searched the forums and there's apparently a widespread issue, but not fix as of 4.2.2?
New to the forum, I originally posted this here
neowin.net/forum/topic/1163306-android-notifications-woes-with-whatsapp/[/url]

emailed whatsapp support
I emailed whatsapp support, got and automated response, i'll post if I get any updates
Jul 08 13:28 (PDT)
Hi,
I just recently switched to a samsung galaxy s4 ( two actually, one for me,
one for GF), before that we used iphone 4 and 4s, never had an issue with
whatsapp notifications until I switched this passed friday. The issue is
once the phone goes into sleep mode, be it mobile data or wifi, I have to
force close the app and open again to receive notifications that I got
hours ago if I don't continously check.
I've googled the hell out of it and found your FAQ, as well as plenty other
sites with the same issue except no solution.
From your FAQ:
1. tried re-installing directly from direct download link (
http://www.whatsapp.com/android/current/WhatsApp.apk) and not from play
store
2. tried rebooting.
3. notifications are set properly
4. google+ is disabled ( hangouts) ( tried enabling it, same result)
5. Wifi is set to always on.
Note this is on stock, brand new phones and apparently it's a wide spread
issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356052
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2351753
http://www.neowin.net/forum/topic/1163306-android-notifications-woes-with-whatsapp/
Anyway, emailing you guys, because I've basically given up google searching
and asking in forums.
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Their automated response was:
Hi,
Thanks for contacting WhatsApp. We are working on answering everyone's question as soon as possible. In the meantime, please look at our FAQ to see if your question is answered there.
FAQ page: http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/
Below are the answers to some commonly asked questions:
1. What are WhatsApp's subscription fees?
http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/23014681
2. Why can't I connect to WhatsApp?
http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/21092998
3. Can I recover deleted messages?
http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/en/general/21197296
If you submitted a suggestion, thank you very much for sharing your feedback. Please note that we cannot comment specifically about plans and developments, but we value your feedback and have taken note of your suggestion.
To add any updates to your request, please respond to this email. We are here to help!
Thanks!
WhatsApp Support Team
Interested in translating for us? Please visit http://translate.whatsapp.com
Take a look at our FAQ: http://www.whatsapp.com/faq/
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Are you using it on Wi-Fi or 3g? If Wi-Fi, Is it possible that your Wi-Fi is going into poWer save mode or something
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AMoosa said:
Are you using it on Wi-Fi or 3g? If Wi-Fi, Is it possible that your Wi-Fi is going into poWer save mode or something
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Sadly, both

Do you lock the screen while whatsapp is open? Or do you choose whatsapp and then lock the screen?
If whatsapp is still running and on the screen, and you lock the screen, it's like the app just stops checking.. I've had this with multiple phones and its a whatsapp problem, not the phone.

ilabs said:
Do you lock the screen while whatsapp is open? Or do you choose whatsapp and then lock the screen?
If whatsapp is still running and on the screen, and you lock the screen, it's like the app just stops checking.. I've had this with multiple phones and its a whatsapp problem, not the phone.
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Both.
So basically your solution was leave whatsapp on screen and push lockscreen?

Draconian Guppy said:
Both.
So basically your solution was leave whatsapp on screen and push lockscreen?
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No, the opposite. For me, whatsapp only worked and checked for msgs if i closed the app and then locked the screen. I would usually come back to the homescreen or something. But if i locked over whatsapp, it would stop checking or take a really long time.
But since you say you've done both, I'm kinda stumped.

ilabs said:
No, the opposite. For me, whatsapp only worked and checked for msgs if i closed the app and then locked the screen. I would usually come back to the homescreen or something. But if i locked over whatsapp, it would stop checking or take a really long time.
But since you say you've done both, I'm kinda stumped.
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Well this is how i fix whatsapp after it goes coocoo, close app, then open again,

Draconian Guppy said:
Well this is how i fix whatsapp after it goes coocoo, close app, then open again,
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Which means whatsapp is usually open when you lock the screen, am I correct?

ilabs said:
Which means whatsapp is usually open when you lock the screen, am I correct?
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Yup

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Yup
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The try backing out of whatsapp before locking the screen. That should fix your problem. Its a whatsapp issue.

ilabs said:
The try backing out of whatsapp before locking the screen. That should fix your problem. Its a whatsapp issue.
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I have tried that as well :/
Currently trying to installing .763, updated from .762, but whatsapp servers are probably getting busted as can't even verify my number.

Bro install Whatsapp+.
Google and download the apk,install and see if it helps.
If not, the only way is to root the S4 and install push notification fixer from play store. It modifies andriod to check for msges every 5mins. That will solve your problem for sure.
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babylordx said:
Bro install Whatsapp+.
Google and download the apk,install and see if it helps.
If not, the only way is to root the S4 and install push notification fixer from play store. It modifies andriod to check for msges every 5mins. That will solve your problem for sure.
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Hey mate,
I've probably tried all apps or methods by insanity to try getting this problem fixed. Unfortunately, nothing positive turned out.
Now I'm trying to off my screen when whatsapp is open, however, I still think it's unbelievably stupid to do so even if it works to get push notification. How can I go back to whatsapp whenever i wanna put the phone back in my jeans pocket? It then seems whatsapp would become the new homescreen?!?!?
Anyone got a real solution to this???

Also having this problem. Screen off, screen on - sometimes whatsapp just doesn't want to receive/send messages. Other times it's working properly.
Have you guys disabled Samsung Push? Have you disabled any system apps at all? Also, do you have the problem even when your phone has a good signal?
I'm also trying to find out the reason for this problem.

frrlod said:
Also having this problem. Screen off, screen on - sometimes whatsapp just doesn't want to receive/send messages. Other times it's working properly.
Have you guys disabled Samsung Push? Have you disabled any system apps at all? Also, do you have the problem even when your phone has a good signal?
I'm also trying to find out the reason for this problem.
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I do disable some system app like weather, finance and stuff like those. To me, what I can confirm is the independence of problem from the signal strength since I've been using the same service provider before upgrading to Jelly Bean and there used to be problem free with the push notification.
This is the result I got last night:
- open whatsapp -> close whatsapp -> homescreen -> screen off = no push
- open whatsapp -> close whatsapp -> free ram -> screen off = no push
- open whatsapp -> screen off = push
Conclusion:
- it is not related to free ram
- it is the problem that the andriod system turn off the app upon screen off (or sleep)
Plus.
I tried installing Push Notification Fixer to introduce "heartbeat" to maintain the connectivity, unfortunately, it DOES NOT work in my case.
Let's keep in view the development. At least we are not alone and hope either Whatsapp or Google can fix this.

Check out this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2357417
It's a thread which guides you how to disable some allegedly useless google services in order to save battery life when idle. It works, but I think it might have been what's caused my whatsapp to go crazy. I even asked in the thread and some others have the same problem.
But if most other people in this thread haven't disabled said google services, that doesn't make any sense.

Mate. Trust me i know this issue exist on all andriod. i googled the hell out of it because i quarrelled with my partner a few times due to delay in replies. its just the way the kernel is written for stock andriod. you can try everything but it wont work. your only solution is to root and install push notification fixer from play store.
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This isn't an issue with android it's an issue with whatsapp. Every android phone I've ever owned has had this issue with whatsapp. Whatsapp need to update their app so it still notifies if it was the last app open whilst the screen locks.
I just press home after I reply and let it lock its second nature to me. The bug is in whatsapp where if it is the last displayed whilst screen lock notifications don't work. You could try changing the conversation tone that might help.

mox123 said:
This isn't an issue with android it's an issue with whatsapp. Every android phone I've ever owned has had this issue with whatsapp. Whatsapp need to update their app so it still notifies if it was the last app open whilst the screen locks.
I just press home after I reply and let it lock its second nature to me. The bug is in whatsapp where if it is the last displayed whilst screen lock notifications don't work. You could try changing the conversation tone that might help.
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That's wrong... It was perfectly fine, instantly receiving whatsapp messages in my phone no matter what. Something I've changed caused it to stop working.
My problem isn't only the notifications, it's the actual whatsapp messages aswell. Something killed the Whatsapp wakelocks, now my whatsapp isn't causing any wakelocks and when the phone is idle it does not check for messages.

I don't get notifications.

Hi guys, I have a big problem with ZTE Axon 7,
I got the chinese version with Google Launcher and I noticed that I'm not getting notifications properly. It's really annoying , for example when I get an email on Gmail I get the pop up and hear the sound, that I got an email, but when I receive a message on Messenger, or on Viber, the phone do nothing, it's like it's in deep sleep or I don't know, somehow Gmail brings me the notifications but messenger and other applications not, even facebook missing to notify me sometimes that I got a post on my wall or someone replied on my comment.
Everytime I have to reopen the apps every one of them to get notifications, and I noticed that about 1 hour later ZTE somehow close them automatically, in the MI Assistant I set Viber and Messenger to auto-run, but still nothing, what should I do? I don't get notifications. I tried to turn off every Power Saving setting, everything that related to power saving is turned off, I even disallowed the deep sleep for these applications but still nothing, factory and cache reset and still nothing.

Zoriak22 said:
Hi guys, I have a big problem with ZTE Axon 7,
I got the chinese version with Google Launcher and I noticed that I'm not getting notifications properly. It's really annoying , for example when I get an email on Gmail I get the pop up and hear the sound, that I got an email, but when I receive a message on Messenger, or on Viber, the phone do nothing, it's like it's in deep sleep or I don't know, somehow Gmail brings me the notifications but messenger and other applications not, even facebook missing to notify me sometimes that I got a post on my wall or someone replied on my comment.
Everytime I have to reopen the apps every one of them to get notifications, and I noticed that about 1 hour later ZTE somehow close them automatically, in the MI Assistant I set Viber and Messenger to auto-run, but still nothing, what should I do? I don't get notifications. I tried to turn off every Power Saving setting, everything that related to power saving is turned off, I even disallowed the deep sleep for these applications but still nothing, factory and cache reset and still nothing.
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I have the US version but I ran into this too with my MagicJack app .. You can try ... though not sure if it will help ... it seemed to help on my MJ app ... going to the recent apps list and find the app that is closing and click the little lock icon in the upper right corner.
I did this because when I cleared the list it would close MJ app and not restart like it would do on my old Samsung Galaxy S3 ... After doing that .. I noticed that it kept running when I left the phone set for a while .. it would still shut down every so often but the app itself has never been real stable so that may be the app itself crashing or something.
So if you "Lock" the apps in the recent apps section ... it may keep them running even if the phone tries to clear out recent apps after it sits for a while.

JohnOrion said:
I have the US version but I ran into this too with my MagicJack app .. You can try ... though not sure if it will help ... it seemed to help on my MJ app ... going to the recent apps list and find the app that is closing and click the little lock icon in the upper right corner.
I did this because when I cleared the list it would close MJ app and not restart like it would do on my old Samsung Galaxy S3 ... After doing that .. I noticed that it kept running when I left the phone set for a while .. it would still shut down every so often but the app itself has never been real stable so that may be the app itself crashing or something.
So if you "Lock" the apps in the recent apps section ... it may keep them running even if the phone tries to clear out recent apps after it sits for a while.
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Thanks for your answer, but I don't find the place where I can change this setting maybe on the Chinese version the settings are different, can you provide me please a screenshot to show me where to change it? Thanks!

Zoriak22 said:
Thanks for your answer, but I don't find the place where I can change this setting maybe on the Chinese version the settings are different, can you provide me please a screenshot to show me where to change it? Thanks!
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lol .. i may have the terminology wrong... but here is a screen shot for you. With that lock enabled even if I click "clear all" and everything disappears from the recent apps list .. MJ .. and as you see I also have Pushbullet locked .. they will continue to run and if I select the recent apps list again .. they will be in there again .. they don't actually get closed .. As I say .. this may keep them from being closed if the Axon 7 closes old recent apps when your phone is inactive for a period of time... but this is only a theory and it may not work .. it may just be that I got lucky and the programs I use keep running for some reason now .. or maybe I just don't notice that they closed and end up opening them again without realizing it.

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lol .. i may have the terminology wrong... but here is a screen shot for you. With that lock enabled even if I click "clear all" and everything disappears from the recent apps list .. MJ .. and as you see I also have Pushbullet locked .. they will continue to run and if I select the recent apps list again .. they will be in there again .. they don't actually get closed .. As I say .. this may keep them from being closed if the Axon 7 closes old recent apps when your phone is inactive for a period of time... but this is only a theory and it may not work .. it may just be that I got lucky and the programs I use keep running for some reason now .. or maybe I just don't notice that they closed and end up opening them again without realizing it.
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I tried out the idea that you gave me, no results at all, something is not good in ZTE software, or it's my phone, hope someone can give me a feedback why is this happening with my phone. ZTE A2017. It's really annoying, I have a phone for 400$ and it's not giving me notifications at all, how am I supposed to enjoy being online if I have to check everything everytime manually.

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I tried out the idea that you gave me, no results at all, something is not good in ZTE software, or it's my phone, hope someone can give me a feedback why is this happening with my phone. ZTE A2017. It's really annoying, I have a phone for 400$ and it's not giving me notifications at all, how am I supposed to enjoy being online if I have to check everything everytime manually.
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Ok here is something else .. may be odd but may be an issue... have you checked to make sure that you have sounds set to your notifications. There is an option for 'none' so just verify that you have a sound associated with your notifications.... another thing you can check is Settings >Sounds and Vibrations > Do not disturb and make sure this is off... or if you use this feature ... it should show an icon at the top .. make sure that icon isn't there .. I have heard of people saying that the do not disturb doesn't turn off like it is supposed to sometimes .. so if you use it .. and its suppose to turn off at say 6am .. make sure its shutting off ...
If that isn't it... let me clarify something... when you say you aren't getting notifications ... are you getting them but just not getting a sound to let you know you are getting them ... or are you not getting notifications as in ... you have to manually go into an app like your email and check manually for new mail because it isn't giving you any notifications that you have mail. ... basically are you just not getting 'notified' of notifications ... or are you not getting the actual notifications themselves from your apps... (nothing shows up in the notification section/lock screen)

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Ok here is something else .. may be odd but may be an issue... have you checked to make sure that you have sounds set to your notifications. There is an option for 'none' so just verify that you have a sound associated with your notifications.... another thing you can check is Settings >Sounds and Vibrations > Do not disturb and make sure this is off... or if you use this feature ... it should show an icon at the top .. make sure that icon isn't there .. I have heard of people saying that the do not disturb doesn't turn off like it is supposed to sometimes .. so if you use it .. and its suppose to turn off at say 6am .. make sure its shutting off ...
If that isn't it... let me clarify something... when you say you aren't getting notifications ... are you getting them but just not getting a sound to let you know you are getting them ... or are you not getting notifications as in ... you have to manually go into an app like your email and check manually for new mail because it isn't giving you any notifications that you have mail. ... basically are you just not getting 'notified' of notifications ... or are you not getting the actual notifications themselves from your apps... (nothing shows up in the notification section/lock screen)
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I think i founded the solution you have to go Options>Power Manager>Power management for apps> and disable every slider for the apps that you want to use and the most important step REBOOT THE DEVICE. I did it today morning this change, and nothing happened, but now I rebooted my device, and it seems to work. I get the notifications immediately when I write a message to myself from another phone, thanks JohnOrion for taking time to help!
You can turn off in the MI Assistant the lockscreen background app close feature in the accelator menu, I think you have to turn that off too.

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Ok here is something else .. may be odd but may be an issue... have you checked to make sure that you have sounds set to your notifications. There is an option for 'none' so just verify that you have a sound associated with your notifications.... another thing you can check is Settings >Sounds and Vibrations > Do not disturb and make sure this is off... or if you use this feature ... it should show an icon at the top .. make sure that icon isn't there .. I have heard of people saying that the do not disturb doesn't turn off like it is supposed to sometimes .. so if you use it .. and its suppose to turn off at say 6am .. make sure its shutting off ...
If that isn't it... let me clarify something... when you say you aren't getting notifications ... are you getting them but just not getting a sound to let you know you are getting them ... or are you not getting notifications as in ... you have to manually go into an app like your email and check manually for new mail because it isn't giving you any notifications that you have mail. ... basically are you just not getting 'notified' of notifications ... or are you not getting the actual notifications themselves from your apps... (nothing shows up in the notification section/lock screen)
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You can also check something else by clicking your volume button and when you see the volume section come on your screen press the little down arrow and make sure that the notification section has volume set on it and isn't muted.
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I think i founded the solution you have to go Options>Power Manager>Power management for apps> and disable every slider for the apps that you want to use and the most important step REBOOT THE DEVICE. I did it today morning this change, and nothing happened, but now I rebooted my device, and it seems to work. I get the notifications immediately when I write a message to myself from another phone, thanks JohnOrion for taking time to help!
You can turn off in the MI Assistant the lockscreen background app close feature in the accelator menu, I think you have to turn that off too.
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ahh .. the bell thing.. yeah i got rid of that as soon as it was possible I don't think that the US version has MI Assistant .. you are the second person that mentioned it and I don't see that anywhere on my phone and I did a google play on it and it said its not compatible with my phone....
glad you were able to work it out

I'm running into this same issue. Just got my phone two days ago and loving it. However, every so often throughout the day it goes into some sort of deep sleep and none of my notifications come through. I've been missing new emails and hangout messages until I unlock the screen and manually refresh.
This is not a case of not hearing notifications, when I open the Gmail app, it doesn't even display the new messages until I manually refresh it.
Seems to be totally random on when this happens. I've tried checking different power settings and such and nothing really seems to make a difference. I don't even see an option to modify the power settings for the Gmail app, it doesn't show on the list of available apps.
Anyone have any luck? If this continues to be a problem, it could be a deal breaker and will force me to return it. What's the point of having a smartphone that doesn't get emails and messages?

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I'm running into this same issue. Just got my phone two days ago and loving it. However, every so often throughout the day it goes into some sort of deep sleep and none of my notifications come through. I've been missing new emails and hangout messages until I unlock the screen and manually refresh.
This is not a case of not hearing notifications, when I open the Gmail app, it doesn't even display the new messages until I manually refresh it.
Seems to be totally random on when this happens. I've tried checking different power settings and such and nothing really seems to make a difference. I don't even see an option to modify the power settings for the Gmail app, it doesn't show on the list of available apps.
Anyone have any luck? If this continues to be a problem, it could be a deal breaker and will force me to return it. What's the point of having a smartphone that doesn't get emails and messages?
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I wish I could give you an answer .. right now .. I truly feel that ZTE realizes that it has made a mistake with the power and ram management .. I'm sure it has been resolved but because of the way things work .. it will probably not be a 'seen' fixed until the next major update which will include Nougat. This update should be here either this month according to Newegg .. or soon after .. it has been verified by one of the ZTE staff that Nougat is in the testing stages now but not verified that it will be out this month... so I'm hoping it wont be too much longer.

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I wish I could give you an answer .. right now .. I truly feel that ZTE realizes that it has made a mistake with the power and ram management .. I'm sure it has been resolved but because of the way things work .. it will probably not be a 'seen' fixed until the next major update which will include Nougat. This update should be here either this month according to Newegg .. or soon after .. it has been verified by one of the ZTE staff that Nougat is in the testing stages now but not verified that it will be out this month... so I'm hoping it wont be too much longer.
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Makes sense. Besides the issue with sync, I really like the phone. I love the size and feel. Speakers are truly great. I've got until January 31st to return through Amazon. I'll hang on a short bit longer and see what happens.
Only other option would be the One Plus 3t. Not sure I want to give up the front facing speakers though...

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Makes sense. Besides the issue with sync, I really like the phone. I love the size and feel. Speakers are truly great. I've got until January 31st to return through Amazon. I'll hang on a short bit longer and see what happens.
Only other option would be the One Plus 3t. Not sure I want to give up the front facing speakers though...
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Hopefully you will have the answer before your cut off date it looks promising that you will .. so yeah.. hang in there for a little while longer ... ZTE has been moving fast to get things working .. when you think about it and compare to other manufacturers ... their last update was only about a month or so ago and a very large update is coming very shortly .. that is pretty good in my opinion ... lol but I am coming from an ancient Galaxy S3 so this phone is incredible compared to that even with its strange quarks.
isn't the OP3t also a 1080 screen .. well i guess with this size it doesn't matter but .. lol ... I guess I like the 1440p screen
and yeah I love the speakers on this .. My nephew picked up a V20 because of its sound ... I want to compare it to this .. I bet mine sounds better than his that he paid 2 times the price for ... then again .. that would only be speaker sound .. I'm sure the DAC is actually better in that phone .. I think its like a 64bit one and ours is only 32bit .. but .. never actually followed it .. I love the sound but I'm not so into sound that I know specs of the converters and that stuff I just know the sound that comes out of my phone sounds great and the v20 doesn't have front facing speakers lol ... sorry .. I am a fanboy I guess .. fell in love with this phone .. want to see some of the issues resolved but for me .. I'm lucky .. most of the major ones people complain about don't seem to effect me.
Like not getting notifications .. my email twitch youtube and twitter all come through ... and lol geeky me .. they all get pushed fine to my Pebble watch and my desktop computer without delay .. as far as I have noticed by following the forums .. I get a lot of emails and there is also a counter on the forum that shows notifications and again .. never noticed a significant delay between the two of them and the phone will be sitting inactive for long periods of time .
I am lucky because I don't really communicate like a lot of people do on their phones .. I use it mainly for calls and to play around .. and it works better to notify me of mail than Windows .. so I don't use a lot of online services like spotify .. whatsapp .. and those type of things .. maybe this is why I;m not seeing issues ...

Just had it happen again. I didn't check my phone while watching a movie and decided to check my Huawei watch at the end of the movie. Was checking an old Google now card and all of a sudden my phone lit up with notifications of new Gmails and Pop emails pouring in. They were an hour old.
I'm not really sure what to do. I work for a small company and need my emails. I'm really torn as I really like everything else about this phone, but this might be the killer.
Any suggestions for a similar phone in this price range besides the One Plus 3t?

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Just had it happen again. I didn't check my phone while watching a movie and decided to check my Huawei watch at the end of the movie. Was checking an old Google now card and all of a sudden my phone lit up with notifications of new Gmails and Pop emails pouring in. They were an hour old.
I'm not really sure what to do. I work for a small company and need my emails. I'm really torn as I really like everything else about this phone, but this might be the killer.
Any suggestions for a similar phone in this price range besides the One Plus 3t?
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You might have to disable doze.

sorry to say .. I stopped looking when I decided on the Axon ... I do use BlueMail and get all my mail once I got rid of the power management and locked it in my recent apps list. You could give that program a try and see if it can get past the issue that seems to be ignoring your settings. ... I would suggest installing and setting up BlueMail and adjusting the power settings and locking it in the recent apps list .. then reboot the phone .. just to make sure all the settings take .. double check .. I have seen weird things with the power management settings then see if you still have issues getting mail ... if so .. again ..hopefully the update coming soon will solve the issue if you can wait a little bit .. I know since its business related .. its not something that can wait .... but maybe bluemail is more aggressive in its waking than gmail and maybe it will be able to get your notifications out

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sorry to say .. I stopped looking when I decided on the Axon ... I do use BlueMail and get all my mail once I got rid of the power management and locked it in my recent apps list. You could give that program a try and see if it can get past the issue that seems to be ignoring your settings. ... I would suggest installing and setting up BlueMail and adjusting the power settings and locking it in the recent apps list .. then reboot the phone .. just to make sure all the settings take .. double check .. I have seen weird things with the power management settings then see if you still have issues getting mail ... if so .. again ..hopefully the update coming soon will solve the issue if you can wait a little bit .. I know since its business related .. its not something that can wait .... but maybe bluemail is more aggressive in its waking than gmail and maybe it will be able to get your notifications out
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Good point, I meant to ask about that earlier. You had noted you don't have the problems with made me think you were using a third party app for email.
I'll check it out and see how it works out. I'm willing to give it a shot.
As for disabling Doze, not sure how to do that with the MiFavor skin on there. Doesn't seem to be a simple option for that.

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Good point, I meant to ask about that earlier. You had noted you don't have the problems with made me think you were using a third party app for email.
I'll check it out and see how it works out. I'm willing to give it a shot.
As for disabling Doze, not sure how to do that with the MiFavor skin on there. Doesn't seem to be a simple option for that.
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yeah maybe bluemail will help .. its very nice ... gmail would only let me link 2 accounts and wouldn't let me link my personal imap server so I still always had to deal with 2 boxes .. but with BlueMail ... I can have all my mail in one box with easy access
oh and I'm not familiar with disabling doze either .. maybe awsomjgp can enlighten us both

Was the problem solved with Android 7?
I have Android 6 on the Axon 7 and have the same problem as mentioned.
If the problem was solved by installing Andorid 7, can you tell me a good source where it is explained how to install it on the chinese version of Axon 7. Had much trouble till now. Lucky I payed just 80%€ for it... :angel:

Factory Reset
I solved the problem by doing an unintentional factory reset. After that I had a lot of truebles with Google Play Service but now it seems to be ok. Every time the phone kills some apps, it asks me if I want protect them. But can't find this action under the settings.

Latest ATT Update (March '18) - new Messaging/Gallery apps?

Did anyone get the latest security update yet from AT&T?
Looks like it was security patches, but my Messaging and Gallery apps changed.
I am OK with the gallery app, and the Messaging app is OK with the exception the text is pretty damn small! I know you can pinch to zoom, but I am unable to find anyway to keep the ZOOM setting I selected in the new Messaging app, as soon as I back out and go back to a person I was chatting with, the text is back to being small.
Just confirming I'm not the only one with this issue.
Chris

Oh, believe me, you are not alone. Mine is doing the same thing. It is also showing replies to texts in white text boxes with white type. I had to switch my purchased themes 4 times to find one that didn't do this! I also lost the ability to schedule messages, and lost all of my quick responses! This is VERY annoying.
Krista

Ditto here, white text on white background for incoming texts. Exceptionally annoying.
A few people have complained on the AT&T support forums (https://forums.att.com/t5/Samsung-Discussion-Support/Text-bubble-issue/m-p/5452599/thread-id/35765), but it seems the forum moderators are going thru and deleting threads and replies. And so far, the only "answer" wasn't an answer at all, just a canned response pointing to a tutorial (that wasn't there last night, btw) on how to change messaging settings.
If anyone has any ideas, please let us know.

Using pulse for messaging. And sungstratum for theming. It's a part of substratum. No root.

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Using pulse for messaging. And sungstratum for theming. It's a part of substratum. No root.
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I don't understand what you mean, please explain.

It's another SMS app, you can download it on the playstore.

Thanks everyone for confirming it wasn't just me. It's a shame because the stock txting app wasn't pretty bad for the past ~2 years....here's hoping AT&T steps up, otherwise I will go third party too...

Pulse is awesome. I have the paid subscription and can access my txts from any device.

First, new "update" fubared text messaging; now, there's something running in the background that's turning it into a hotplate & sucking the battery down in just a couple hours, instead of decent consumption all day long. Even after a reboot & running the "save battery" app in Settings, it's still warm to the touch, & draining the battery too quickly.
Does AT&T have plans to fix this, or is this a push to force an upgrade? (this I put to them on their forum)
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Android. 7.0
Patch level January 1, 2018 (so no shenanigans about "security enhancements" in this one, they ain't there)

There were betas for these updates for several months now. There must have been some big changes under the hood and this one came as a 500MB update rather than a 35MB security patch. Probably stuck with any bugs until the next major update which will most likely be Oreo. All of this is just speculation on my part.

I didn't receive any notification on my S7 Active regarding BETAs - how do you sign up for those? I would have gladly given feedback on this Messaging app....

They don't have a beta program open to the public as far as I know. Over on the firmware update thread, user khaliullov posts a link to firmware and uncovered a way to directly download firmware from ATT's servers. That's where I've seen betas for this update for the past few months. You don't want to have those betas installed as they offer no upgrade path, so you would be stuck with the issues that whatever beta you used came with.

Got it - thanks for the info!

Looks like time to investigate rooting the phone...

Just got prompted for another update - let's see what this one does...

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Just got prompted for another update - let's see what this one does...
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Same here, can't really see any difference in anything so far.

No difference here either, unfortunately. I was really hoping the Messages app would be updated. This new one SUCKS.

Is there anyone would could grab the old messaging app, make it a APK and then let us sideload it? I would be VERY interested in this, as would others.... this new Messaging app is junk!

The new messaging app is really weird, but all the features are there.... you hafta hit the + sign & the features come up. To schedule messages and more.

Could be worse, half your account could be stuck in Spanish. It's been well over a year and they still can't do anything about it. Lol.