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VoLTE on Nexus 6 from Verizon

I went here , clicked on "Free Products", and found that my Nexus 6 was eligible for HD Voice. I signed up, checked out (for free), and it said that my phone now has HD Voice. The FAQ explains how to verify that it's actually working, as follows:
To verify Advanced Calling 1.0 is ready to use on an Android phone:
Open the Contacts app.
Tap on the Groups tab.
If you see a group named "Video Calling," this indicates that Advanced Calling 1.0 is ready for use.
Note: If you don't see the Video Calling group, turn off your phone and turn it back on again. If you still don't see it, verify that the latest software is installed on your phone.
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My phone didn't pass that test, but I don't know if that's because I'm rooted. Or whether I'm confusing "HD Voice" with "Advanced Calling" which maybe I am. Kind of confusing.

I just tried this and was unable to send or receive calls. Kept getting all circuits are busy until I took it off my account.
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Yea I'm sure volte isn't enabled for the n6 right now on any network.
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There needs to be a software update to our phones to make it work. now that vz is for sure getting the phone we should have a way to do that soon.

TonikJDK said:
There needs to be a software update to our phones to make it work. now that vz is for sure getting the phone we should have a way to do that soon.
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Right, but it's confusing that the Nexus 6 is identified as "eligible" for HD Voice, given that HD Voice is part of Advanced Calling, which is Verizon's name for VoLTE. But I suppose it's not remarkable that there is misleading and confusing information on Verizon's website.
Back to waiting for Godot...

hd voice isnt the same as volte. tmobile has had hd voice for a while now, and volte is only voice over lte. two differing things.

simms22 said:
hd voice isnt the same as volte. tmobile has had hd voice for a while now, and volte is only voice over lte. two differing things.
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That's what I mean when I say the Verizon site is confusing. Here's what the FAQ says:
What is Advanced Calling?
Advanced Calling 1.0 is a first generation suite of services enabled by VoLTE (Voice over LTE) technology. VoLTE is a new technology platform that delivers voice calls over the 4G LTE network instead of the traditional voice network.
The benefits of Advanced Calling 1.0 include:HD Voice
1-way or 2-way video calls* (including support for video calls over Wi-Fi)
6-way conference calls​
What is HD Voice?
HD Voice delivers clearer, natural-sounding audio when both parties are using HD Voice-enabled phones that are connected to our 4G LTE network.​
Reading that, and seeing that my phone was "eligible" for HD Voice, made me think that maybe VoLTE was being rolled out for the Nexus 6. Obviously it wasn't, but you can see the source of the confusion.

baudi11 said:
That's what I mean when I say the Verizon site is confusing. Here's what the FAQ says:
What is Advanced Calling?
Advanced Calling 1.0 is a first generation suite of services enabled by VoLTE (Voice over LTE) technology. VoLTE is a new technology platform that delivers voice calls over the 4G LTE network instead of the traditional voice network.
The benefits of Advanced Calling 1.0 include:HD Voice
1-way or 2-way video calls* (including support for video calls over Wi-Fi)
6-way conference calls​
What is HD Voice?
HD Voice delivers clearer, natural-sounding audio when both parties are using HD Voice-enabled phones that are connected to our 4G LTE network.​
Reading that, and seeing that my phone was "eligible" for HD Voice, made me think that maybe VoLTE was being rolled out for the Nexus 6. Obviously it wasn't, but you can see the source of the confusion.
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ah, i see. it is a little confusing how they set it up. seems like they have hd calling on their volte enabled line. tmibile does it on their non volte enabled lines. but both caller and reciever have to have hd calling for it to work.

baudi11 said:
I went here , clicked on "Free Products", and found that my Nexus 6 was eligible for HD Voice. I signed up, checked out (for free), and it said that my phone now has HD Voice. The FAQ explains how to verify that it's actually working, as follows:
My phone didn't pass that test, but I don't know if that's because I'm rooted. Or whether I'm confusing "HD Voice" with "Advanced Calling" which maybe I am. Kind of confusing.
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My understanding is that the Nexuz 6, while it will support Advanced Calling (VoLTE), it will only support HD Voice and not HD Video - just like the iPhone 6/6 Plus. So that test is actually moot.

thepiombino said:
My understanding is that the Nexuz 6, while it will support Advanced Calling (VoLTE), it will only support HD Voice and not HD Video - just like the iPhone 6/6 Plus. So that test is actually moot.
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Source?

I just added this feature to my account and nothing happened. Calls still work and the "LTE" label still disappears from above the signal icon (meaning the data connection is still going away during calls, and therefor VoLTE isn't working).
It can't be a coincidence that Verizon sees the N6 as compatible. My wife's Verizon Note 4 comes up as not compatible, for example. So, they must be enabling certain models on purpose and they enabled the N6.
My assumption is that there will be a software update to enable this on the N6 by default at some point before the phone launches on Verizon. However, maybe there is a way to manually enable it now? Does anyone know of any dialer codes or settings that relate to VoLTE? Is VoLTE working on any other carrier?

TheSopranos16 said:
I just added this feature to my account and nothing happened. Calls still work and the "LTE" label still disappears from above the signal icon (meaning the data connection is still going away during calls, and therefor VoLTE isn't working).
It can't be a coincidence that Verizon sees the N6 as compatible. My wife's Verizon Note 4 comes up as not compatible, for example. So, they must be enabling certain models on purpose and they enabled the N6.
My assumption is that there will be a software update to enable this on the N6 by default at some point before the phone launches on Verizon. However, maybe there is a way to manually enable it now? Does anyone know of any dialer codes or settings that relate to VoLTE? Is VoLTE working on any other carrier?
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no other carrier has it yet, and verizon just started rolling it out(and most likely its not in your area yet).

I have a question.... When Verizon do release the update to initiate VOLTE for this phone will someone be able extract for us non Verizon nexus 6 owners to download it? Advanced calling is initiated on my account because I had the g3 so I'm hoping we can get the update when its released.

kng60ft said:
I have a question.... When Verizon do release the update to initiate VOLTE for this phone will someone be able extract for us non Verizon nexus 6 owners to download it? Advanced calling is initiated on my account because I had the g3 so I'm hoping we can get the update when its released.
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Not possible.
Google is adding in the standardized backend interface to have VoLTE working, but I am pretty much going to assume that it will be implemented carrier by carrier basis since there is also going to need to be changes to how towers/carriers hand off the protocol.

8Fishes said:
Not possible.
Google is adding in the standardized backend interface to have VoLTE working, but I am pretty much going to assume that it will be implemented carrier by carrier basis since there is also going to need to be changes to how towers/carriers hand off the protocol.
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Pretty sure he meant would it be possible to add it to a non-Verizon purchased Nexus running on Verizon's network. Not to port Verizon's VoLTE to another carrier.
That being said, it's pretty much impossible to answer until we know how Verizon implements this. If I had to guess I would say it could be added to the /oem partition similar to AT&T's stuff. Either way, I would say it's pretty likely it would be added to any device running with a Verizon sim.

We all need to remember that Volte is only available in a few cities yet

Just for giggles I added the Advanced Calling to my cart. (I didn't check out).. I noticed that it was going to remove ringback tones if I proceeded. Weird.

hdtechk said:
We all need to remember that Volte is only available in a few cities yet
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Do you have a source for that? You could very well be right, but from reading verizon's website, it sounded like it was supposed to work anywhere with lte coverage.

simms22 said:
no other carrier has it yet, and verizon just started rolling it out(and most likely its not in your area yet).
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It is LTE and phone compatibility dependent, not area. Unless your area does not have LTE.

I would imagine once 5.1 hits we will have volte/advanced calling on verizon. However none of this will work until verizon officially activates and allows this phone on their network as more than an unrecognized device. Like others have said though google still has some backend work to do to make it possible on their end as well.

Wifi calling on sprint vs fi

We all know that Wifi calling works on Fi for Tmobile & Sprint. The Question I have is Why doesn't wifi calling work if you're sprint only?
It really doesn't make sense. Does the fi sim have some magical sprint profile. Discuss

I believe WiFi calling on Fi is just like using Hangouts, since your number is actually a Google Voice number. If you have Google Voice, you can use Hangouts to make WiFi calls on Sprint or T-Mobile as well.

geoff5093 said:
I believe WiFi calling on Fi is just like using Hangouts, since your number is actually a Google Voice number. If you have Google Voice, you can use Hangouts to make WiFi calls on Sprint or T-Mobile as well.
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Its not. When I look at my fi phone, I don't use the hangouts dialer. Im using the integrated standard dialer. So that's what im trying to figure out, there is something fishy going on here.

T-Mobile WiFi calling us superior to Sprints
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The wifi calling on my lgg3 works perfectly fine, the wifi calling on my tmobile work phone works fine. The wifi calling on sprint and tmobile on my project fi phone works great. I know the sim has to contain some profile that enables it for sprint, assuming some kind of VPN tunnel information. On my 6P with my fi sim in wifi calling option is there, sprint sim, option gone.
That's the only thing I can think of. I know when I got into a discussion with fi tech support over why 911 wasn't working properly. You're fi number is carried on tmobile, and sprint gives you a dark number. So its entirely possible that that there is some VPN going on.

zikronix said:
Its not. When I look at my fi phone, I don't use the hangouts dialer. Im using the integrated standard dialer. So that's what im trying to figure out, there is something fishy going on here.
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I'm aware, but it's my understanding that the Google dialer has Hangout integration, which is why you are required to have Hangouts installed in order to make WiFi calls when using Fi.

I'm going to Uninstaller hang outs and see if it works with out it. I don't use hangouts for anything on fi except talking to my friends. I personally think the fi app is making the magic happen since it handles all the switching pieces.
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Uninstalled hangouts. Wificalling still work. Disabled the fi app, breaks fi calling for sprint. Intresting!

I just had a long conversation with a Sprint tech that even went as far as saying maybe a third party app may help....but ....basically, WiFi calling is disabled for 6P (I use Sprint, not fi). It is really disappointing.
You pay for the phone...it should be open to be used as intended. Sprint is preventing us from using our "Unlocked Phones" & "Pure Android" phones and messing with the capabilities. Would that be grounds for a class action lawsuit? Who can we call to get that started?

WIFI calling on VZW

Hey guys been doing some searching do not have a definitive answer. I know Verizon Wireless recently enabled wifi calling on their network for iOS and select android devices which was back at the end of last year. As Android has native support wifi calling since Lolipop I believe, does anybody know if wifi calling works on nexus 6p with a verizon SIM card inserted? I have read different places its part of advance calling, or you may need the verizon messages app, so conflicting information, my new job provides me a phone with VZW, I am currently on T-Mobile do not want to carry two phones but VZW gets next to no service in my neighborhood, talking 1 or 2 bars of 1X only! Any help would be appreciated.

There is currently no wifi calling on VZW and the nexus 6P unless you use VZW's message+ app.
I'd be surprised if any non VZW Android phone ever gets it.

gunnyman said:
There is currently no wifi calling on VZW and the nexus 6P unless you use VZW's message+ app.
I'd be surprised if any non VZW Android phone ever gets it.
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Thanks! But the wifi calling definitely works with that app installed? I use google voice so SMS isnt what I am looking for as that always works on wifi, I am talking about actual phone calls lol which I know in this day and age is crazy talk
Edit - you mean this app right? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.verizon.messaging.vzmsgs

yeah that's the app. It has a voice call option, I just put the phone in airplane mode and enabled wifi. It would NOT make a call so maybe I have no idea what the heck I'm talking about.

Sprint Nougat update can't surf while on call

Hello,
The nougat update was installed on my Sprint S7 edge the other night. Now I can't use the Internet while I'm on a call! I did calling and surfing with no problem before this update. I called sprint and they basically said that you can be on WiFi and call / surf no problem, which is true. But I am often away from WiFi and need to use internet while on call. I tried the different modes such as CDMA, LTE/CDMA, GSM/UMTS, AND Automatic but same problem.
Has anyone experienced this? Is there a setting or something to fix this?
Looks like I may have to go back to AT&T! ?
Thanks in advance

That is a limitation of Sprint, not Nougat. I switched from AT&T to Sprint last April and ran into the same issue immediately. While I plan to switch back to AT&T or Verizon, I've been using the hangouts dialer/google voice to make calls over LTE. This fixes the issue for me for the time being.
-Matt
coolecho said:
Hello,
The nougat update was installed on my Sprint S7 edge the other night. Now I can't use the Internet while I'm on a call! I did calling and surfing with no problem before this update. I called sprint and they basically said that you can be on WiFi and call / surf no problem, which is true. But I am often away from WiFi and need to use internet while on call. I tried the different modes such as CDMA, LTE/CDMA, GSM/UMTS, AND Automatic but same problem.
Has anyone experienced this? Is there a setting or something to fix this?
Looks like I may have to go back to AT&T!
Thanks in advance
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I've never been able to access data over cellular while on a call on my S7 Edge. Nougat or Marshmallow. Worked fine on older phones, but Sprint's Spark network doesn't allow it.

I came from T-Mobile who I truly despise so I decided to give sprint a shot. I've been on sprint for years now on and off and I have NEVER been able to use the internet while on a call. As others stated above, their POS network doesn't allow it. It was the limitations of a CDMA network, but couple years ago, Verizon upgraded their CDMA network and now they can browse and talk at the same time. Sprint is the ONLY network that doesn't allow it that's in the top 4. ATT, TMO, VZW. While sprint was racing to be the first carrier to allow 4G (which they were) other networks were prepping for LTE and setting up their infrastructure to surf blazing speeds and still talk and sprint is stuck in the stone age's. Rant over lol

kennypow3rs said:
I came from T-Mobile who I truly despise so I decided to give sprint a shot. I've been on sprint for years now on and off and I have NEVER been able to use the internet while on a call. As others stated above, their POS network doesn't allow it. It was the limitations of a CDMA network, but couple years ago, Verizon upgraded their CDMA network and now they can browse and talk at the same time. Sprint is the ONLY network that doesn't allow it that's in the top 4. ATT, TMO, VZW. While sprint was racing to be the first carrier to allow 4G (which they were) other networks were prepping for LTE and setting up their infrastructure to surf blazing speeds and still talk and sprint is stuck in the stone age's. Rant over lol
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Sprint actually did allow simultaneous voice and data for a while. It worked fine on my G3 (and still does, actually). But it doesn't work on any of the new phones that support their faster "Spark" network, or whatever they're calling it now.

meyerweb said:
Sprint actually did allow simultaneous voice and data for a while. It worked fine on my G3 (and still does, actually). But it doesn't work on any of the new phones that support their faster "Spark" network, or whatever they're calling it now.
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what you said is 100% true but to add to the dialogue, the reason it doesn't work anymore is because manufacturers have reduced cell antennas down to 1
older devices used 2-3 antennas, so it was possible to use 1 antenna for internet on a LTE frequency while the other antenna was in use for voice calls.
VoIP is essentially a data stream so with 1 antenna that's the only workaround.

The last galaxy phone that did simultaneous voice and data (while not on wifi) was th GS3 . it had a radio in it call SVDO (simultaneous voice and data option)
no other galaxy phone since then can do both UNLESS your on wifi.

kennypow3rs said:
I came from T-Mobile who I truly despise so I decided to give sprint a shot. I've been on sprint for years now on and off and I have NEVER been able to use the internet while on a call. As others stated above, their POS network doesn't allow it. It was the limitations of a CDMA network, but couple years ago, Verizon upgraded their CDMA network and now they can browse and talk at the same time. Sprint is the ONLY network that doesn't allow it that's in the top 4. ATT, TMO, VZW. While sprint was racing to be the first carrier to allow 4G (which they were) other networks were prepping for LTE and setting up their infrastructure to surf blazing speeds and still talk and sprint is stuck in the stone age's. Rant over lol
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Regarding Sprint racing to be the first carrier with 4G (Wimax) while the others were prepping for LTE, Sprint wanted to also do LTE like the others but at that time LTE was nowhere near ready & they had to do something with the spectrum they were sitting on at that time or else they would've lost it.
Robalboa said:
The last galaxy phone that did simultaneous voice and data (while not on wifi) was th GS3 . it had a radio in it call SVDO (simultaneous voice and data option)
no other galaxy phone since then can do both UNLESS your on wifi.
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Last phone I remembered being able to do this was the Note 3. Man I miss being able to use simultaneous data & voice.
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Well that sucks. We should have that option it's freaking 2017 lol. It's hard to take them serious. I also keep hearing of a soft bank and TMO partnership they really do want to pair sprint with TMobile to compete against Verizon and ATT. If sprint did merge with TMO they could route calls through another frequency/band and have data sit on the LTE band.

Robalboa said:
The last galaxy phone that did simultaneous voice and data (while not on wifi) was th GS3 . it had a radio in it call SVDO (simultaneous voice and data option)
no other galaxy phone since then can do both UNLESS your on wifi.
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Actually, a work-around that I've tried is using the Google Hangouts dialer. You can surf the web and be on the phone. Kinda sucks they eliminated the simultaneous talk and data.

I can attest that until the latest Nougat update (last week) I was able to be on a phone call while connecting to the internet and webex. I do this a lot due to being stuck in traffic and having to attend conference calls while driving.
My phone is a Galaxy S7 Edge. I also had this ability with my Note 3. Something fishy is going on here.
I'm really upset that this is happening all of a sudden, strangely right after the freaking software update. I want the feature back! Now every forum says that Sprint doesn't support it on these phone. BS! I am proof it did have the ability. They just took it away with stealthy maliciousness. Sprint needs to give us back the ability to use data and voice simultaneously!

I'm using s7 edge too. if anybody still can't use data while on call. try to turn off your power saving mode. don't turn off your power saving mode while you on call. off ur power saving mode before you call or answer someone. i update this reply while on call too.

I think nowaday most updates are all a big BS. just another ploy to take away all the neat features and give the phone companies more controls, limiting user ability, etc.... i.e. to save the phone companies bandwidth and data use..
My old samsung S4 can do everything after i completely rooted it. from hotspot to simult data and voice, also sim unlock... all done by me just reading xda
I want to upgrade to something newer with removable battery and microsd card in the form of a LG G5. and it's been a real PIA. first phone i got it has the latest firmwarez preventing any enabling of tethering or DIY sim unlock... Had to return it.... 2nd phone has earlier firmware so i can enable tethering. but has no way to use data and voice at same time.

Unable to use data while on the phone.

Just purchased this phone and was very pleased at how fast it is and how many features it has for the price.
I did run into one issue that was a bit of a surprise. While on a telephone call, the data is disconnected. I am on Verizon. Is there a way to get talk and data to work at the same time? On my Samsung phones it works fine.
I read somewhere that you had to enable HD calling but there doesn't seem to be an option for it in the settings.

bishop0114 said:
Just purchased this phone and was very pleased at how fast it is and how many features it has for the price.
I did run into one issue that was a bit of a surprise. While on a telephone call, the data is disconnected. I am on Verizon. Is there a way to get talk and data to work at the same time? On my Samsung phones it works fine.
I read somewhere that you had to enable HD calling but there doesn't seem to be an option for it in the settings.
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This is normal for retail unlocked devices on Verizon, because they don't let non-branded devices use VoLTE (yet), so the device has to step down to 1xRTT (CDMA) to make a voice call which does not support simultaneous voice and data. Verizon branded devices are allowed to use VoLTE and can therefore use voice and data at the same time.

acejavelin said:
This is normal for retail unlocked devices on Verizon, because they don't let non-branded devices use VoLTE (yet), so the device has to step down to 1xRTT (CDMA) to make a voice call which does not support simultaneous voice and data. Verizon branded devices are allowed to use VoLTE and can therefore use voice and data at the same time.
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I have a moto G5 plus on Verizon and have volte and data during calls. I didn't have to do anything it just worked.

mikeyinid said:
I have a moto G5 plus on Verizon and have volte and data during calls. I didn't have to do anything it just worked.
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Then your account must be properly provisioned for it I guess. I know the last Moto I had on Verizon that was what they told me.

acejavelin said:
Then your account must be properly provisioned for it I guess. I know the last Moto I had on Verizon that was what they told me.
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It's a fairly new account so maybe there is something to that.

mikeyinid said:
It's a fairly new account so maybe there is something to that.
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Called VZW and they said HD calling was blocked. The removed the block and it works fine now. Thanks!